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Household [Home Appliances] Water Filter, for drinking water purpose

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NightFelix
post Mar 17 2014, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(alvinlim84 @ Mar 17 2014, 12:01 PM)
Hi all. Anyone know other good direct drinking water filter brands that are countertop? 3M doesn't have countertop filter. Bacfree do have but it cost RM915 one-time price. Filter replacement RM200.
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eSpring, good quality but is not cheap. 3M can setup as countertop but it just doesn't looks so nice only, someone previously posted a screenshot.

Bacfree @ RM915, which model you talking about? hmm.gif
Filter replacement for RM200 doesn't tell the whole story, you need to calculate long-term usage and how many litre/sens.
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post Mar 17 2014, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Mar 17 2014, 04:35 PM)
eSpring, good quality but is not cheap. 3M can setup as countertop but it just doesn't looks so nice only, someone previously posted a screenshot.

Bacfree @ RM915, which model you talking about? hmm.gif
Filter replacement for RM200 doesn't tell the whole story, you need to calculate long-term usage and how many litre/sens.
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3M ap easy complete can setup as countertop? However, my budget is less than RM1000.

I am referring to Bacfree BS-3 Series Filters with ultra tech element. Filter can last up to 5000 litres or 6-12 months depends on usage. Filter is ceramic membrane type and has 0.2 micron. Chlorine reduction 97%. Lead reduction 95%. Turbidity and Chloramine reduction 99%. It seems popular during early years until year 2010 it switch focus to rain water harvesting. It doesn't innovate much in residential drinking water filter since then. So, I have doubt about this BS-3 Series Filters.
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post Mar 17 2014, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(alvinlim84 @ Mar 17 2014, 05:49 PM)
3M ap easy complete can setup as countertop? However, my budget is less than RM1000.

I am referring to Bacfree BS-3 Series Filters with ultra tech element. Filter can last up to 5000 litres or 6-12 months depends on usage. Filter is ceramic membrane type and has 0.2 micron. Chlorine reduction 97%. Lead reduction 95%. Turbidity and Chloramine reduction 99%. It seems popular during early years until year 2010 it switch focus to rain water harvesting. It doesn't innovate much in residential drinking water filter since then. So, I have doubt about this BS-3 Series Filters.
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Credit goes to zheilwane but is not the 3M AP Easy Complete. He is an reseller of 3M as well.

And I can't find any info about Bacfree NSF certification. hmm.gif So I have no idea about the credibility of their product.
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alvinlim84
post Mar 17 2014, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Mar 17 2014, 06:38 PM)
Credit goes to zheilwane but is not the 3M AP Easy Complete. He is an reseller of 3M as well.

And I can't find any info about Bacfree NSF certification. hmm.gif  So I have no idea about the credibility of their product.
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Yes. There are no info about Bacfree NSF certification but their website claim it has. Anyway, I will consider 3M water filter then. Will visit his shop when got free time. Thanks smile.gif
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I just called up KINETICO on their Kinetico MACH Series.

MACH 2060f (Macrolite) - RM4000

K5 - RM3500

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Any feedback? They are scheduled to come later today to do quotation on installation. Expensive but I'm hoping this is worth the price?
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post Mar 24 2014, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(RedPillReality @ Mar 24 2014, 02:39 PM)
I just called up KINETICO on their Kinetico MACH Series.

MACH 2060f (Macrolite) - RM4000

K5 - RM3500

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Any feedback? They are scheduled to come later today to do quotation on installation. Expensive but I'm hoping this is worth the price?
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Pm-ed you for feedback.
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post Mar 24 2014, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(RedPillReality @ Mar 24 2014, 02:39 PM)
I just called up KINETICO on their Kinetico MACH Series.

MACH 2060f (Macrolite) - RM4000
K5 - RM3500

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Any feedback? They are scheduled to come later today to do quotation on installation. Expensive but I'm hoping this is worth the price?
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Well, after some research from NSF website here. The POE and POU filter by KINETICO are truly certified by NSF.

But there something you don't know, you can get the same quality and certified of the product from another brand/company. Both POE and POU are over mark up, I know is hurt but is true. The K5 @ RM3500 is just another RO System which certified with NSF 42+53+58. Not to forget the long-term maintenance might be expensive too, because it only last for 500gallon(apox. 1900liters). Good luck dude.

* NSF/ANSI 42 Drinking Water Treatment Units - Aesthetic Effects
** NSF/ANSI 53 Drinking Water Treatment Units - Health Effects
*** NSF/ANSI 58 Reverse Osmosis Drinking Water Treatment Systems


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post Mar 27 2014, 07:20 PM

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Frankily speaking, i guess d overall price are quite high.

I ll recommend espring which is less than RM4000 and pentair which is less than RM2000.

As the Pentair that I distribute is non transparent material, reduce d risk of funga grows

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QUOTE(wattsivy @ Mar 27 2014, 07:20 PM)
Frankily speaking, i guess d overall price are quite high.

I ll recommend espring which is less than RM4000 and pentair which is less than RM2000.

As the Pentair that I distribute is non transparent material, reduce d risk of funga grows
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C'mon bro, R u serious? blink.gif Is just like around RM3200 only, where got so expensive.
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post Mar 27 2014, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Mar 27 2014, 07:31 PM)
C'mon bro, R u serious? blink.gif Is just like around RM3200 only, where got so expensive.
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U mean totall together? but key point juz like prevous discuss if it is RO system there sorry i m not recommend.

As i used to use RO water in lab for experiment as the ro water does not contain any mineral which ll affecting my chemical reaction.

long term consuming ll lead to health problem

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post Mar 27 2014, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(wattsivy @ Mar 27 2014, 08:03 PM)
U mean totall together? but key point juz like prevous discuss if it is RO system there sorry i m not recommend.

As i used to use RO water in  lab for experiment as the ro water does not contain any mineral which ll affecting my chemical reaction.

long term consuming ll lead to health problem
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I said the eSpring, dude. So you using eSpring at home too? blink.gif
What do you think about Alkaline Water? brows.gif Share your thought.
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post Mar 29 2014, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Mar 27 2014, 08:14 PM)
I said the eSpring, dude. So you using eSpring at home too? blink.gif
What do you think about Alkaline Water? brows.gif Share your thought.
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There is not much strong support abt drinking alkaline water benefit to health. Plus our body hv buffer system. No matter how much alkaline water we drink our body cant turn to be alkaline. As if our stomach pH bcom alkaline wr cant even hv a goo digest sys. Coz our stomach should be in acid medium.

Lastly, question bek to y we wanna have a water treatment system? We wan to hv clean water. If d alkaline water is really good for health bt d system is not really good in filteration water. I guess i wont use. Tat y i never drink any alkaline water.

Btw some patiens may need alkaline water as suggest by doc. Normal ppl dun need it. smile.gif
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post Mar 29 2014, 11:10 AM

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I m using espring. Answer is simple: it is using a compact active carbon filter. Surface area of d carbon filter equal to 250++ surface area of football field. It filter 0.2micron particles and 140types of containminates.
Those filters containminates stated in NSF website.
It certified by NSF standard 42,53,55. It using UV light to kills bacteria n virus. So i never boil my water juz drink it directly.
Plus u can search urself in youtube. Taiwan tv program discuss"how to choose water treatment sys". They invite d respresentive from espring sharing on tv.

Tis is my opinion as a chemist.
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post Mar 29 2014, 11:44 PM

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Btw i m not a dude i m a dudette. Espring for member is rm3200. Bt now with crazy promotion much more crazy discount on tis last 2 days!
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post Mar 31 2014, 12:43 AM

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any1 has contact for Clazzen Water Filter that give reasonable price??? I check few website same model CM 9 but few price...
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post Mar 31 2014, 09:07 AM

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Coway still my choice. Rental scheme only RM110/month include maintenance and change filter
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post Mar 31 2014, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(brianccg @ Mar 31 2014, 09:07 AM)
Coway still my choice. Rental scheme only RM110/month include maintenance and change filter
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Well, not most of us are rich as you, bro. blush.gif
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QUOTE(naleh33 @ Jul 30 2008, 01:50 PM)
My house is currently using the Amway treatment water system. I am not sure whether it is your mentioned e-spring system but it has also a combination of carbon block filter, ultraviolet light with an electronic monitoring system. No offence but their lifespan based on the monitoring system is very short.

There are only 2 peoples including me staying in the house. The water usage is very little but the lifespan of the carbon filter and ultraviolet light is about 6 months. Each time u change it will cost you a bomb especially the ultraviolet light. If I remember correctly, it is about 300++ for the replacement.  cry.gif

So now I din bother to change it. I still used the filtered water but I will just boil it again.
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hi naleh,

yours e-spring is 2nd version? I am using the 3rd version e-spring and the lifespan is ok..4 people including me staying in the house and the filter can sustain around 1 year.
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QUOTE(ttkhean @ Mar 31 2014, 09:57 AM)
hi naleh,

yours e-spring is 2nd version? I am using the 3rd version e-spring and the lifespan is ok..4 people including me staying in the house and the filter can sustain around 1 year.
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That was like 2008 year story. blink.gif
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Mar 31 2014, 09:49 AM)
Well, not most of us are rich as you, bro. blush.gif
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Is not the matter of rich or poor, if you prepare to invest on water filter mean you r health conscious and health is not something money can value.

After all, RM110 include change of filter etc.. in long term still cheaper in term of average cost.

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