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post May 9 2009, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ May 8 2009, 11:34 AM)
Of course he was. lol

I can think of only 3 negatives, none of which ruins the experience by much:

1) Abrams employed too much shay cam in the space battles and some of the physical fights.
2) The villain wasn't a really interesting one, but you hardly notice it.
3) I cant think of a highlight sequence from the movie. Perhaps the entire movie is the highlight, but try thinking one standout scene and see if you can come up with one.
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QUOTE(yeehs18 @ May 8 2009, 11:12 PM)
TOS, TNG, DSN, VYR timeline will still continue. As mentioned in the movie by Spock I think; that this movie has spawn an alternate reality. You see, the successful of the movie is because the original timeline is remain as canon and yet the new timeline also canon. So now in star Trek back story have 3 realm which is Star Trek 1.0 (Original), Star Trek 2.0 (New), and Mirror universe. With all 3 remain intact and alive. The most exciting is because of this superb arrangment the fandom accepted JJ adaption well.
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time travel sure does give headaches though .lol
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post May 9 2009, 10:38 AM

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Major disappointment is the score. Appalling.
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post May 9 2009, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ May 8 2009, 10:46 PM)
4/5

Liked it but wasn't as enthusiastic as some.

I think it's a very tricky to rate this movie. First off I'm glad it didn't feel like a 2 hour episode of Star Trek but on the other hand, Abrams directed it like he would have had in a 2 hour pilot for a TV series - throw in lots of explosions and special effects in the absence of more screen time among the cast (more screen time between Spock and Kirk?!) but leave us drooling for MORE in future installments. The cast assembled definitely is a perfect fit but f*** me, Quinto is the man - showed the most emotion without moving a muscle on his face and never thought Pine could be Kirk but he pulled it off and Yelchin was hilarious!

Only negatives were that some of the scenes intended to draw a laugh was distracting and weren't needed (Kirk trying to warn the ship that they were walking into a trap) and I thought there'd be a love triangle between Spock, Kirk and Uhura but wasn't to be. I liked it, would watch it again but though different genres of movies, Batman Begins is still the perfect prequel/origin story for me.

PS: I had a nerdgasm when Slusho was ordered.  drool.gif
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I thought the action was very much secondary to the characters. The character are what made this such a fun movie. And it's not the usual slow character-building we find in dramas as well, it's the kind where the situations and how they approach them which define who they are, and the dialogue in which everyone has a few great lines to deliver, and of course each and every one of them has their own style and swagger to back them up. It's the kind of character-driven movie which even the general Transformers-loving crowd can enjoy. And of course the pacing was perfect. Right from the moment we see the adult Kirk, the movie just flows magnificently, right till the end. The characters, and the pace and flow, and the lightness of touch everywhere... those are the main elements which made this such a terrifically fun movie. There wasnt a thick plot, but what was there was good, setting aside a few coincidences which didnt bother me at all. Forget Iron Man, forget Indy IV, this is how you do summer blockbusters.

Btw I liked the score. Dunno how it compares to Goldsmith's or any other Trek scores, but I liked this one.

Anyway anyone feels the red monster, apart from the head, looks like the one in Cloverfield? That was one scene which was unnecessary, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

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post May 9 2009, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ May 9 2009, 11:26 AM)
I thought the action was very much secondary to the characters. The character are what made this such a fun movie. And it's not the usual slow character-building we find in dramas as well, it's the kind where the situations and how they approach them which define who they are, and the dialogue in which everyone has a few great lines to deliver, and of course each and every one of them has their own style and swagger to back them up. It's the kind of character-driven movie which even the general Transformers-loving crowd can enjoy. And of course the pacing was perfect. Right from the moment we see the adult Kirk, the movie just flows magnificently, right till the end. The characters, and the pace and flow, and the lightness of touch everywhere... those are the main elements which made this such a terrifically fun movie. There wasnt a thick plot, but what was there was good, setting aside a few coincidences which didnt bother me at all. Forget Iron Man, forget Indy IV, this is how you do summer blockbusters.

Btw I liked the score. Dunno how it compares to Goldsmith's or any other Trek scores, but I liked this one.

Anyway anyone feels the red monster, apart from the head, looks like the one in Cloverfield? That was one scene which was unnecessary, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.
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Oh, when you compare it with jerry's, this one taste like dog poo.

Star Trek is all about the characters, never in the series/movies the action plays the primary role. It's all about the chemistry between the crew and how they respond to the situations. I like how Abrams stayed that way, maintaining the close rapport between Kirk, Spock and the crew. although I didn't like some parts where he tried to "Hollywood"nized it with some not-really-apt-and-humourous lines, I do like they way the actors played their roles at the end.

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QUOTE(Makakeke @ May 9 2009, 10:38 AM)
Major disappointment is the score. Appalling.
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i beg to differ. i love the score.
it has homages to the original "Star Trek : The Motion Picture" and the Original Series.
small nuances of emotive composition here and there.
very nice if you ask me.
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Hmm look like this movie has a good review here, really that good? even for a non-trek fans like me? is the story continuous from last episode or what??
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QUOTE(zs3889 @ May 9 2009, 12:52 PM)
Hmm look like this movie has a good review here, really that good? even for a non-trek fans like me? is the story continuous from last episode or what??
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non-trekkie will find that the movie is highly accessible. and this movie is a new "reboot" to a new timeline canon to the series. so it's a new start to a whole new possibilities.
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QUOTE(technophile @ May 9 2009, 12:53 PM)
non-trekkie will find that the movie is highly accessible. and this movie is a new "reboot" to a new timeline canon to the series. so it's a new start to a whole new possibilities.
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It seems like gonna spend for movie this Sunday rolleyes.gif anyway, I found that this few weeks are really lack of some good movie, only Wolverine unsure.gif unsure.gif
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ May 9 2009, 11:26 AM)
I thought the action was very much secondary to the characters. The character are what made this such a fun movie. And it's not the usual slow character-building we find in dramas as well, it's the kind where the situations and how they approach them which define who they are, and the dialogue in which everyone has a few great lines to deliver, and of course each and every one of them has their own style and swagger to back them up. It's the kind of character-driven movie which even the general Transformers-loving crowd can enjoy. And of course the pacing was perfect. Right from the moment we see the adult Kirk, the movie just flows magnificently, right till the end. The characters, and the pace and flow, and the lightness of touch everywhere... those are the main elements which made this such a terrifically fun movie. There wasnt a thick plot, but what was there was good, setting aside a few coincidences which didnt bother me at all. Forget Iron Man, forget Indy IV, this is how you do summer blockbusters.

Btw I liked the score. Dunno how it compares to Goldsmith's or any other Trek scores, but I liked this one.

Anyway anyone feels the red monster, apart from the head, looks like the one in Cloverfield? That was one scene which was unnecessary, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.
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No, I thought the action was thrown in there for the sake of it. For example, the Cloverfield monster sequence was a waste of time and didn't create any suspense whatsoever. If that was the best way they could think of to introduce old Spock then so be it. : / I felt the same for Montgomery in the water tunnel as well.

I still think there could have been more time between the characters, mainly because I loved every minute of them on the screen. I can't think of one other movie where I would prefer seeing the cast than things blowing up (I'm looking at Fantastic Four here yawn.gif ). And really, as menacing as Bana was on his limited screen time, I thought that he could have had more time on screen as well which was why I felt that the action took precedence.

EDIT: I'm pretty much repeating what Makakeke said there upon seeing his reply.

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I didnt' expect myself to like this movie. Now I'm in love with this movie now. It's entertainig, it's comedic...etc

I like this one part where I heard Kirk calling Chekov (which sounded like "Jack Off" Hahaha...
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 8 2009, 11:56 PM)
there are only two timelines now: the original star trek and this new movie. TNS, DSN, voyager, enterprise and all the other movies fall into the original timeline, just at different point of time.
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In the Star Trek universe, there's actually several timeline. Of course the main original Star Trek is considered as main timeline but over the years there are a few tv episodes that deals with alternate timeline. Heck, there's even a timeline where the Federation is an evil empire and the other aliens such as Vulcans, Romulans, Klingons, etc were fighting a losing battle against humans. By the way, I think the old Spock from this movie did not even come from the original Star Trek timeline because in the original timeline, we know that Romulans still exist in TNG.

Anyway, its a damn good movie since it pleases both Trekkers like me and managed to attract non-Trekkers. The only problem was there a few holes in plotlines but nobody really bothers with it.

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damn, i cant stop laughing when i saw sylar LOLOL
And when he goes :"Mother mother" i was laughing my *** out since in the heroes series he also keep on saying "mother" LOL
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good movie. some of the dialogue reminded me of my schooldays - the science and maths.

agree too that that monster really look like the same monster from Cloverfield-maybe the legs, hands and head. mouth a bit different.

but... hey! where's the chick for Kirk? nobody ala Megan Fox? Haha!tor

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Fun movie. Except the excessive Lens Flare that makes me puke.
Its so JJ Abrams.
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post May 9 2009, 07:04 PM

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imo this is the best Star Trek movie i have ever seen. all those other trek movies suck compared to this one. JJ Abrams gave new life to this franchise and i smell a sequel coming soon.
this is a must buy for me on blu ray.

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QUOTE(zs3889 @ May 9 2009, 01:37 PM)
It seems like gonna spend for movie this Sunday  rolleyes.gif anyway, I found that this few weeks are really lack of some good movie, only Wolverine  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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wolverine so so only for me.. not that good. i like Star Trek way better than wolverine..
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i sighed a little when it ended. i like it BUT, huge but...

it felt like a michael bay movie to be honest. so action packed, so flashy with the crazy lens flare use and FX, so...mainstream. which isnt necessarily bad, just didnt feel like star trek. no prime directive(yes there was no prime directive at that time) but its like it has no direction! If this were a parallel universe... there might be a possibility that the prime directive might not even come to existent in this timeline yawn.gif god that would suck so much.

it might be the end of the star trek we knew and love. bye bye sleek metal voyager, hello apple store voyager.

Chekov was so cute tho.

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ May 9 2009, 01:50 PM)
No, I thought the action was thrown in there for the sake of it. For example, the Cloverfield monster sequence was a waste of time and didn't create any suspense whatsoever. If that was the best way they could think of to introduce old Spock then so be it. : / I felt the same for Montgomery in the water tunnel as well.

I still think there could have been more time between the characters, mainly because I loved every minute of them on the screen. I can't think of one other movie where I would prefer seeing the cast than things blowing up (I'm looking at Fantastic Four here  yawn.gif ). And really, as menacing as Bana was on his limited screen time, I thought that he could have had more time on screen as well which was why I felt that the action took precedence.

EDIT: I'm pretty much repeating what Makakeke said there upon seeing his reply.
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Maybe I misunderstood. I was under the impression that you thought Abrams sacrificed character time for more explosions, because that certainly wasnt the case. The mix of characters and action was perfect, it's a minor pity that the space battles werent shot as well. I didnt like the multiple shots of people running in the ship's interior while everything was exploding. I think I read somewhere that that was how the series or earlier movies were like.

As for the humour, I laughed hard along with my friends in a cinema, and that is definitely not a bad thing. But it might manifest itself as excessive once I watch it on dvd alone.

Bana was good with what little he was given. If he was unfulfilling, it was because of the script.
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QUOTE(slumberus @ May 9 2009, 05:52 PM)
Fun movie. Except the excessive Lens Flare that makes me puke.
Its so JJ Abrams.
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Correction: So Kurtzman & Orci. See Transformers.
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QUOTE(lycaphim @ May 9 2009, 08:25 PM)
Correction: So Kurtzman & Orci. See Transformers.
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Oh shit, really? The first thing that came to my mind after watching it was like...

THIS FEELS LIKE TRANSFORMERS.... IN SPACE.

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