hi, ya salary slip is p&c to your friend, but not for application job when it is required (or any other official application for loan or card...etc). And they have the right to keep a copy of your payslip for verification later, it is better that you show it by yourself during interview rather than the employer call in your current company to check without informing you. and whole company know you are looking for job out there. if you wanna blame, don blame at employer, blame those ppl who cheated about their salary to new employer. as i know, these days every company practice this which every candidate should bring their payslip to the interview.

i can understand y ts would think of faking the salary slip. cuz most of the company will not willing to overpay u especially the economy is worse than last time. some even onli willing to pay same as per ur current company. then wat's the point to leave the previous n to join the new. well so far i've been asked to produce my salary slip for recent 3 times as its mnc. unless its a small company which normally they wont ask. but of cuz most of the time they wont pay wat u expected to get.

Basically companies ask for your previous salary because they get to know 2 things in 1. The validity of you claiming to work in that company and also to push down your salary. Come on, lets be honest, if you know some poor bloke is earning Rm2.2K would you ever think of paying him RM5K eventhough his job should be paid that much?

Its an unfair world. If you want to fake, you need extreme guts and to think of all the possible ways the company can check on you. Also be prepared to let go of the job if you are found out.

If you don't want to put the salary, I think it is also OK. Some of my friends have done it and gotten bigger salary. However, the risk is that you better be super good and luck certainly plays a big role. If another bloke is a good as you and puts his salary then you are probably a goner too.

Not all companies does this especially local companies. However multinationals and companies dealing in R&D with patents are some of the most vigorous companies practicing this methods.

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Added on June 21, 2008, 1:37 amactually you can just present it to them in a different way. Instead of giving them montly statements. I try to show them my EA forms with tax returns.

They are normally inclusive of the basic pay+ OT allowances + bonus + EFP contribution + employer EFP + socso + income tax deduction. So for someone earning 3K can jump to 5K a month after dividing the total over 12 months.

This is important as some company doesn't give company cars or travel allowances. So all this will does add up.

I always tell them how much i make in one year and show them the EA form (original) no faking here
and tell them i hope to make similar or more in the new post. And trust me, companies are willing to pay, if you are worth the price tag.

Never sell yourself short, your time *sold* can never be bought back.

This post has been edited by georgechang79: Jun 21 2008, 01:37 AM

Most likely not, but there will be exceptions where my ex-colleague more than doubled her salary in one jump. It's similar to the above where she is way underpaid before the jump, just that the figures is different.
I also knew someone who doubles his salary within a year in 2 jumps. His figures is somewhat similar to the above though.

When a person is seriously underpaid, exceptions could happen...

It's very easy to catch someone who fakes payslip. Hr would check with EPF and there you go.

But if I am not mistaken EPF is also bounded by law to safeguard the privacy of its members. Not anyone or any company can ask for someone else's details.

Maybe I am wrong, perhaps any company HR ppl can confirm if they can ask EPF to release details to them?

Not all HR will check. I heard someone did it before and no problem.

Actually, looking at it from another point of view.. if they want a look at it, let them look. BUT stick to what you claimed for. If both can't come to an agreement, then it's kthxbye.

Don't put up with nonsense like "Waaa, last time your company only paying you RM####, now you are expecting RM####... "

I think the main reason the HR ask for pay slip is not to check your existing salary...I think they did it for background check, they want to know whether you are actually working at the Co that you stated in your resume & what is your current job title...
Furthermore, as bysquashy said, it's very easy to bust pay slip faker...just check the EPF will do!

I dont think is good idea, if they find out , sure you will be gg...

What about someone's college grades? Can you background check that information?

I graduated from the US, and the university policy is that student records will not be revealed without consent from the student. The only thing they can reveal is whether I have completed my degree studies there. But they also provide information to http://www.degreeverify.org, not sure if it includes student grades.

My GPA is only 3.1 and there is this dream job at Intel that requires 3.5 GPA. Dunno wanna fake it or not, kinda scared =/.

Potential employers do not have the rights to request to see your payslip. In addition to that, I do not think that your current company will release their staff's salary to the "public". You can always tell your potential employer that you are currently earning RM 4000 but your promotion is due soon and you should be getting an increment of RM X amount.

That is not true. Would-be employers have the right to ask to view a potential employee's pay slip - the caveat being the employee also has the right to refuse to show it and it is up to the discretion of the employer whether they wish to employ the person or not.

HR personnel have their own network - they typically do rely on each other for reference checks and renumeration verifications.

Would-be employees who propogate lies and half-truths deserve whatever punishment they receive.

My friend.

First job : rm2k
2nd job : faked his 'payslip' during interview, got oferred rm6k
3rd job : told interviewer rm6k, got offered even higher pay.

what u think

Exactly.

You have the right to ask your gf to show you her tits, but it's entirely up to her whether she does so or not. Depending on her response, you make the decision whether to keep her or look for a new gf.

This post has been edited by seantang: Jun 25 2008, 01:44 PM

LMAO!

@chezzball
IF he can do his job really well then I see no problem doing that

Tit size is way down the list of criteria lar.

unbelievable. What is ur friend position title before(1 job) and after(2 job) the jump?

NOt to produce a fake payslip,


They will believe if ur current FAke salary is more or less the market rate.

If the wan salary slip, u said comapny don't give. Some comapnise pay via cheque