Who does the check ? private eye ?


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And I wish some employers would do the same - I have known , world famous co's even in SG to turn a blind eye to info that is extremely suspect just cause the Boss liked the guy .

The words corporate and integrity do not mean the same thing .

I believe in the most application, it will ask you whether it's convenient to contact your current company for information. You can answer NO.

I believe payslip shall not be disclose to the company as it's P&C.

Most company will have a salary range for a position, if it's not within the range, they will careless to call you in for interview, if you are invited, it's highly possible that salary is not the issue, it's your qualification. It's the nature of HR to negotiate salary with you, that's what they are hired to do ... even though the price is right, 100-200 too they will try to push you down.

Honestly, if the HR feels a fresh grad is suitable for a position of Manager, I don't see why they cannot pay the fresh grad the paygrade of a manager.

So, I'm against showing salary slip to the target company.

If I'm not wrong, only typical local company will ask for payslip and those are the one that first look at how many years of experiences you have instead of what's your potential and capability.

I've been working for few years now and I strongly believe ... year of experience doesn't guarantee work quality and capability.

i think u expect ur salary deviations is too big alr....
but employer hav the right to call ur Xcompany ask for ur details.

Most of the time it's based on trust and professionalism. But most Malaysians are uneducated so they will abuse it like the thread starter and his friend.

Honestly, how many people want the current company to know that you are seeking job outside?

Many of us are too innocent to think that the HR department in the million dollars company can be con by your simply fake payslip..... they are professional to deal with this kind of HR matter. Simple, they give u an offer letter, on the first day of work, they ask you to give them your EBF statement, or your bank account statement for the last 3 months, u can kiss your new job goodbye while you already say goodbye to your ex-company.

Btw, I am in MNC and we practice this as set by HR...sometimes, there are rules set by HR even CEO need to follow that.

This post has been edited by huix: Jun 29 2008, 12:53 PM

EPF statement and bank account statement... why? I've never encountered any HR who has asked me for this..

Just be honest ...

If you are up to what you expected, definitely you will get it

i agree , not legal right to this , worker can always refuse.

I'm in MNC too, and it's nothing like yours. Does yours want credit card statements and blood tests too?

EPF and bank account statements are P&C, and the company has NO RIGHT (without your consent anyway) to demand that you furnish these documents to them. That's because these statements may contain P&C information not related to your employment by that company.

Like 2HK said, you can always refuse.

Turn a blind eye to suspect activities?

Utter BS - any unethical matters will eventually be found out and dealt with accordingly by any global company worth its salt.

Global financial co. in SG here Turn a blind eye to a white Uk guy's Employ record thought is very suspect , went to lousy university and claim work for a big bank ?

How about the same company deliberately firing all one race and hiring another race to replace them enacting deliberate racism ?

I know I was there

Who is Utter BS now ?

Name the company then.

Provide the evidence that states this particular white guy fudged his credentials and let the authorities do the rest.

If these allegations were true, the company would have been hauled into the dock by now.

Name the company then? why should I ? It's no big deal to me , i left already.

Why don't you name your company ?

How can they be hauled if the Co themselves don't mind ? How can the Co prosecute itself!

Use you brain .

This post has been edited by 2HK: Jun 30 2008, 05:14 AM

Apply your own advice to yourself.

If you believe that an employee fudged his credentials, then bring it up to the HR department of your employer company. Whistleblower policies exist in global corporations.

Otherwise, it's all hearsay and rumours on your part.

Another silly statement without understanding or perspective .

How can it be a Whistleblower policies when the event is over ? you can't blow the whistle when the event is past tense !

Thus I can also say it's all hearsay and rumours on your part.

Answer the Q : Why don't you name your company ? if you are so bona fide ?

Then why didn't you blow the whistle if you had evidence that a certain employee had fudged his credentials then? We are not talking about the present.

In short, you suspected the person of lying about his credentials and yet you didn't have the guts to point it out through the proper channels when you were employed with your ex-company.

What does my employer have to do with this matter?

Another silly statement jumping to conclusion without understanding or knowledge .

It WAS reported to the group HR director who did nothing about it , beyond that workers can do little else if the the Co does not want to act . end of story , which part is unclear to you ?



why should I give names when you don't , do you think you deserve special treatment here ?

Wonder why do your company having this policy? Too many cases of faking payslip?

Faking is rife even in so call law abiding Singapore , anybody who believes otherwise is a fool :



http://www.straitstimes.com/Free/Story/STIStory_210724.html

AFTER working in Singapore for eight years as an engineer, Hong Tao decided to stay for the long haul.

So the China national applied for permanent residence in September 2006.

He was successful. But just over a year later, he was in hot water.

The 36-year-old was arrested last November after checks revealed that his degree from the Anhui Institute of Electro Mechanics was fake.

They include 40-year-old Sivanantham Veeran, who in March 2006 succeeded in his citizenship application. But the Indian national had lied about his 1994 convictions here for immigration offences and other crimes.

Only in Malaysia where applying for jobs they ask you everything except how big your privates are.

I got into a ang moh company without even asking for IC or even getting back ground checks. Granted its a small firm, but their attitude to the thing is something i like.

Compare to the local bank ones, they ask for family member name, ic, occupation, age, gender (as if put name on separate mom and dad section not enough). Heck even Borders Malaysia also ask this question.

So to you so-called HR specialist or what not, do you really need to ask all these seemingly unrelated questions for job applications?

This post has been edited by seatux: Apr 18 2011, 09:13 PM