M = 2nd Gen. Mazda 6, A = 8th generation Accord

M: Bose 7 Speaker System with 1 Bose Subwoofer
A: Standard 160W 6 speakers system with subwoofer

M: N/A
A: Tower Bar & Hood Damper

M: N/A
A: Rear Curtain

M: 6-CD In-Dash Changer with MP3 Support and Ipod Support
A: 6-CD In-Dash Changer with MP3/WMA Support and USB Support

M: Leather Seats
A: Leather Seats + Interior

M: 8-way Driver and Front Passenger Electronic Adjustable Seats (Driver with 3 Memory Settings)
A: 8-way driver, 4 way passenger and power lumbar support.

M: 60/40 fold down rear seats
A: Rear foldable seats (probably 60:40 as well) with truck through hole

M: Fully Automatic Sunroof
A: N/A

M: 6 AirBags (Front, Side and Centre Pillar), Active Headrests and Crushable Brake and Clutch Pedals
A: 4 AirBags (Front, Side), Active Headrest & G-CON

M: Auto Headlights Lamp (Ambient light sensor) and Auto Wipers (Rain sensor)
A: Auto Headlights Lamp and variable and intermittent wipers, water dispersing glass (side + rear) and hydrophillic door mirrors

M: HID Bi-Xenon Headlight (High and Low Beam) - Auto Leveling
A: HID Bi-Xenon Headlights with Auto Levelling

M: Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS)
A: No Data

M: Auto Dimming Button for Rear View Mirror
A: N/A

M: Push Start / Stop Ignition System
A: N/A

M: Advanced Keyless Entry with illuminated welcome mode upon entry
A: Standard keyless entry (?)

M: Antilock Brake System (ABS), Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD) and Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) with Traction Control System (TCS)
A; ABS, EBD, BA, Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA)

M: Front (299mm) ventilated disc brakes / Rear (280mm) disc brakes
A: Ventilated & solid disc brakes

M: Separate Climatic System (Dual) Air Conditioning
A: Dual Zone Climate Control Air-Conditioning

M: Rear Boot - Button Operated from rear bonnet
A: Unknown

M: Built-in Antenna (rear screen)
A: Glass Printed Antenna

M: Paddle Shift System with 5 Speed Automatic Transmission
A: Paddle Shift System with 5 Speed Automatic Transmission + shift hold control

M: Dual Exhaust System (though not true dual exhaust)
A: Single with muffler cutter

M: Multifuction Control Setting on Steering
- Consisting of Cross Functional-Network (CF-Net System) to control Air Conditioner, Volume, Trip Counter/Info on centre console panel display and
A: Multifunction Control Settings on Steering, unknown if it controls air conditioning or other functions

M: Auto Cruise System
A: Cruise Control System

M: 18" tyres (225/45) with Alloy Sports Rims (including full spare wheel, not the slim temporary ones)
A: 17" Tyres with alloy rims

M: Body-Color / Sport Type Front Grill
A: Body-Color, chrome door handles / Chrome Grill

M: Blackout Effect Speedometer
A: Unknown

M: Immobilizer
A: Immobilizer

M: Front Fog Lamps
A: Front Fog Lamps

M: ISOFix child seat anchorage
A: ISOFix child seat anchorage

M: Front and rear parking sensors
A: rear parking sensors only

M: Alloy foot padels
A: Unknown

M:Electronic Power Assist steering
A: Hydraulic Power Assist steering with variable gear ration system

Voltage Stabilizer will benefit any car. Not so sure about the ground kit but it's not expensive and better to have than not.

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Aug 11 2008, 01:16 AM

Wah, the thought of having someone rip out your upholsteries is scary. You did this on your new Altis?

Yeah, it doesn't matter what car. The car by default is rather hollow with patches of insulation plattered all over the car. The foaming fills and stiffens any gaps in the hollow chassis thereby reducing noise, vibration and harshness. The sound insulation mats further isolate exterior noise.

Like I said, its expensive but the end result is nothing short of satisfactory. I'm sure you Mazda owners will feel the same way after foaming and insulating your car.

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Aug 11 2008, 01:07 AM

i doubt i still can find my owner manual

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Added on August 11, 2008, 1:30 amaccord dont have keyless entry.


This post has been edited by genkis3: Aug 11 2008, 01:30 AM

What is this Tower Bar and Hood Damper thingy in the Accord?



Any difference? The Mazda6 should be the same with the interiors being leather. Stiching on the Mazda6 leather is noticably better.



Looking at the photos, I don't think the rear seats are 60:40 split. They are foldable though.



Are you sure the headlights on the Accord is Bi-Xenon?



Don't think there is any AFS on the Accord.



You still need to insert a key to start the Accord while on the Mazda6 is totally keyless.



The Accord front ventilated disc is 300mm while the rear solid disc is 282mm in diameter.



I believe the Accord has the conventional type rear boot release located in the car or release by the press of the button from the remote alarm key.



The Accord's steering wheel does not have mute audio button and does not have buttons for air conditioning controls.



The spare tyre in the rear boot of the Accord is the space saving type run-flats.



The Accord's speedometer is the normal type.



I think it's the normal type foot padels on the Accord.


Turning circle on the Accord is 11.5m (2.5 turns lock to lock) while the Mazda6 is 11.0m (2.9 turns lock to lock). One more thing which I forgot is that the rear cabin of the Accord has additional aircond blowers which the Mazda6 does not have.

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Added on August 11, 2008, 2:05 am

What's the weight addition with foaming?

I hope you're not offended but foaming on an Altis is a little overdone, won't you think?

This post has been edited by jchue73: Aug 11 2008, 02:05 AM

Wahhhh .... u all were so Pro comparing between both of the model .

Hope all the Mazda6 2.5L owner enjoy ur new ride . . . and so too Accord 2.4L owner

This post has been edited by TheExtreme: Aug 11 2008, 06:12 AM

It's very light and its waterproof. I'm not even sure if it will hit 5Kg despite sealing up my car cavity.
I see many Civic and Lancer owners go for the same treatment.

It doesn't look impressive, but once you've tried it, there will be no turning back.

By standard keyless entry, I mean your normal alarm and door unlock system. Still by definition considered keyless if you search around the web

The advanced type are actually similar to the one in Mazda 6 or better. You only need the key in your pocket and as you approach the car, it will unlock and the engine will start on its own.

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Aug 11 2008, 08:00 AM

what? It change the look of my car? Noway i will be sacrificing the look for better comfort.

It's a figure of speech
e.g. On paper, it doesn't look impressive.

It's a foam that is inserted into the chassis and will harden filling up all the cavities. You won't see it, but you will feel it.

Where & what is the cost ? Might install it to my rides lol

As I already said, there will be improvement even on this Mazda 6. All the points you mentioned already in this Mazda 6..thats why i ask you to try out this car..even our anti-mazda Munich also say this Mazda 6 feel so much like a Volvo S60...Altis may have significant improvement as compare to this M6..
The feeling of as if the engine is off is already in this Mazda 6, even the sound of starting the engine also as if it is not there....I will only do the undercarriage if i really go for it...as for others I can't imagine how they tear my baby apart....

as for nitrogen gas, you will not even notice the benefits...unless you use it for endurance racing..even on my racing kart, the benefit is not that significant because we constantly check the pressure and differences are just too small...but since its quite cheap, i guess you can just go for it for the small advantage....

Just for the record, I'm not affliated nor do I work for them. It's a good product that I thought everyone should know

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Aug 11 2008, 11:55 AM

This feature is in the Mazda 6 by Siemen. The engine will not start on its own...is a push button start....
Accord doesn't have this, you will still need to press the button to open the door and use the key to start....

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Added on August 11, 2008, 10:35 amDo they need to dismantle the seat for undercarriage treatment?


This post has been edited by iceman08: Aug 11 2008, 10:35 AM

Some comparisons based on pictures taken from other the Oneshoft Singapore website;

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Added on August 11, 2008, 10:44 am

Yes, I've seen the kerb weight at 1395kg for the 2.5L 6 speed manual version from the UK brochure. Your link shows a 6 speed manual version too. I'm taking the conservative figure and thought the Australian's version (5 speed auto) would be somewhat similar in spec to ours and that is why I took the 1450kg figure. The New Zealand auto websites that I posted on the Mazda6 thread also estimated the weights to be around 1400 to 1500kg.

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Added on August 11, 2008, 10:48 am

Besides, normal air consist of 80% nitrogen.

This post has been edited by jchue73: Aug 11 2008, 10:48 AM

Whole car a bit costly liao. Will check out if got special price for car dealer

You have to talk to Desmond directly on what should be done. I'm not an expert, but here's my advise - if you do send it in for autofoam, make sure you leave once you've decided on a package. Otherwise, you will end up being "poisoned" and end up doing more and more things to your car. Haha.

Nitrogen gas improvements are small, the most obvious effect you will feel is the lightness of it. It's a 170k+ car you just bought, what's another RM20 bucks?

Yes I know. It's a nice feature to have. Those Thai Corollas actually the wireless entry system as I have described, I think Malaysians always get the most stripped down cars throughout the region ;(

They dismantle the rear seats and fill the chassis with foam and then put sound absorbing mats under the seat and boot area - the quality of workmanship is very good. You don't need to worry. If you're faint hearted, I don't suggest you stay to look

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Aug 11 2008, 11:46 AM

Looking at the extent that they have to do to insert the foams in the chassis, I doubt Mazda or Honda would be too happy with warranties.

zweimmk, what did Toyota say about your Altis warranty after foaming done?

Personally don't think there would be any warranty void in auto foaming as it's just a canister of auto form down the chassis.
If you took out the rubber lining on your door chassis etc, you'll find holes. that's where they pump in the auto foam and let it harden, strengthening the chassis.
There's no additional drilling or hole making or whatever in the process.

Nothing, it can't be seen - as bOOn has said. All they do is strip off the weatherstrips and inject the foam into the chassis cavities. The undercarriage would need to have the rear seats removed to access the hollow ports in the undercarriage, no drilling needed. Some of the stuff will flow out from the the cavities and dry up - you also need to bring your car back to them after a week but all they do is cut off the exposed foam and add additional foam to fill up whatever parts that is not filled up. The process of doing this requires about 3 to 5 hours and another 2 hours or so when you bring your car back to them.

I traded in my Vios to Toyota Topmark for the new Altis and that car has been foamed thoroughly, even with their thorough check - there was no comment at all. Throughout all the years that I sent my car for servicing, not once was there any problem. Even with my first 1k service in my new car, no problems at all.

I should state for the record that I have a VS + ground kit and stabilizer bar installed as well for the Vios and there was no problems. Even with the new Altis, they didn't say anything about the Pivot Mega Raizin voltage stabilizer that was installed.

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Aug 11 2008, 01:07 PM

it does nothing to the car's exterior, my friend's celica is foamed, i noticed it only when i pop the boot, there's some spongy looking thing oozes out from the hole that they inject the foam into

the foam looks abit like those sponge we use to wash plates one, but much harder la