2008 Mazda6 2.5 vs 2008 Accord 2.4, Compare 2 hot models from Honda & Mazda
2008 Mazda6 2.5 vs 2008 Accord 2.4, Compare 2 hot models from Honda & Mazda
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May 18 2008, 05:58 PM
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I for one booked an Accord 2.4 3 weeks ago, was told to wait 4 months..
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May 21 2008, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(Gouki @ May 19 2008, 01:59 AM) Not quite a fan of Mazda, but if the 2.5L is a V6 engine, then the dual exhaust does serve a purpose. It is always better to have individual exhaust manifold on each separate bank of cylinders, and from there on two separate piping all the way to the back with two real separate exhaust tailpipes. In fact I was pleasantly surprised to see the dual exhaust..the car definitely looks more sportier with this..I m more than happy..and yes, they do serve a purpose by beautifying the already gorgeous car!!! |
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May 24 2008, 09:13 AM
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Jun 19 2008, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(billytong @ Jun 12 2008, 10:50 AM) I heard the Mazda sales man talk about an owner Dropping his Accord and his booking deposit that worth a few Ks for Mazda6, I think it must be you. Hahaha.....maybe...but my deposit is only RM1000 and the Accord salesman will process the refund for me too.....anyway heard from the salesman, few had cancelled Accord booking and changed to Mazda 6....so i m not the only one here.. |
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Jun 20 2008, 10:20 PM
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Malaysian are generally crowd followers....we treated Toyota and Honda household name already. Little did we realise that Toyota and Honda is no longer the same as 20 years ago where most of the parts are from Japan...Now what we get here are parts from malaysia, thailand, indonesia, philippines....
I checked on Australian websites and my relatives there and discover this...Mazda 6 sold in Australia is far more expensive than the Accord..M6 2.5 was sold at 45k while same spec Accord 2.4 was sold at 33k....and the 45k M6 i m talking about is the slightly LOWER spec than in Malaysia!! The highest spec is 17"rim, no keyless start and minus some accessories...This really confirmed that the Accord is way overpriced for what we get here!! Plus from what I read in Motor trader, the CKD Melaka Accord already started to face loads of problems already. |
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Jun 21 2008, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(KeV @ Jun 21 2008, 01:04 PM) plus, if u notice, the mazda 6 is at least 200kg lighter than the accord. so even if the accord has more horsies, hp per tonne is about the same. so really accord is just a marketing ploy to suck mindless drones into buying it Mazda 6 actually has higher hp to weight ratio and higher torque than Accord too. Plus electric power steering also save some hp...Accord is still using the old hydraulic power steering.Added on June 21, 2008, 5:05 pm QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jun 21 2008, 01:49 PM) Honda and Toyota knew Malaysians will still buy their car despite so many complaints..and they can overprice their cars too....so you are right, before we can see any improvement from them, I hope Malaysians will do the same as what they did in the last elections......This post has been edited by iceman08: Jun 21 2008, 05:05 PM |
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Jun 21 2008, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(eatmyanus @ Jun 19 2008, 03:34 PM) yeap, get the CBU mazda, honda malaysia build shit CKD cars... I'm being very serious!!! Problem is malaysians will still close their eyes and buy it because is a Honda...Thats why they need to build a different version of higher quality Accord Euro for the technically savvy European gwei lohw.. |
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Jun 23 2008, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(billytong @ Jun 23 2008, 10:09 AM) When u talk about Resale value, it is more of supply/demand. These days I don't see any car have good resale value..Gone were the days where you lost only a minimal amount on your car resale value. My cousin just sold his (cold car?) 2005 Sorento for 89k. Guess what, same year Accord is selling at 90+k..good resale value? Maybe few thousand more... Today buyers are spoilt for choice...There are so many models flooded in our market now. Unlike those days where ppl will just get to buy Proton or next big gap which is Civic, Altis etc....Now for every 10k extra there is a model to choose.If u think there are a lot of people looking for second hand Honda, at the same time there are also a lot of Honda seller too. So it will be pretty much the same in the end in terms of resale value. Unless u own a exp car that nobody want like Land Rover. It sells exp, maintenance is high. Which makes it less attractive to buy second hand. Look at Merc Benz E & S Class series. Their resale value is suck even it is a popular car. Car that have expensive parts, high maintenance has low resale value. This post has been edited by iceman08: Jun 23 2008, 12:12 PM |
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Jun 23 2008, 12:18 PM
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Jun 23 2008, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(genkis3 @ Jun 22 2008, 11:19 PM) guys, You better hurry...just heard price going up again to 180k. If the demand continues to be strong, it will finally raise up to 185k.im also in dilemma which car to get last 2 months, for car below 200k, camry 2.4/accord 2.4/mazda6 2.5/used bmw 325 fit into list. after long wait for launched of accord and M6, this M6 caught my heart . the only problem is resale value will lower, but so what? the resale value makes me choose accord 4yrs ago although im interesting to get mitsubishi airtrek turbo. and guess what, im driving accord and drolling for air trek everyday i saw it pass by. somemore my frens say me ah pek driving accord at 26 ... thats torture.. in the end, the resale value of airtrek is higher than accord now... so this time, although walking into ah pek ages..30.. i'll choose mazda 6 to makes me look younger~ hehehe my current car is 04' accord 2.4 , bad QC problems of ckd honda i experience b4 makes me back off : 1.warped disc brake rotor, their disc only last for 1 year.claimed 3 disc brake within 3yrs warranty, now 4th yrs and and it happen again. 2.the aircond down after 2yrs, took 2 week to claim and repair!!!!!! luckily i have spare car. if not... how? 3.the right hand side reverse sensor no functioning when i receive my car, i hit the water pipe hose when reverse parking just few days after bought it 4.the service center like to say "it's like that 1 la". 5.the rear absorber have rattling sound when new.(now new accord also facing this probs) 6.the co2 sensor will die after 3yrs and cost rm1400 each. 7.rattling sound inside cabin. improper fix dashboard, can see hole... 8.the car vibrate like proton after aircond kick in, same thing happen to new accord feedback. will go KL test drive the M6 2.5 2weeks later.. will place booking if there's no major problem of car. |
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Jun 23 2008, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jun 23 2008, 01:16 PM) My apologies. I copied the info earlier and did not realise that it contained some mistakes. I believe the 2.4L Accord comes with a DOHC engine and th 2.0L Accord with SOHC engine. Additional features in Mazda 6Corrected comparison as follows; CODE       New Mazda 6 (2.5L)                New Accord (2.4L) Origin      :   Japan (CBU)            Malaysia (CKD) Price      :   RM 175,570.20.- OTR        RM171,800.- OTR  Engine      :   4 Cylinder DOHC 16-Valve S-VT   4 Cylinder DOHC 16-Valve i-VTEC HP/rpm      :   170/6000             180/6500               Torque      :   226Nm@4000rpm           222Nm@4300rpm Rim       :   18 inches 225/45         17inches 225/50 Fuel tank    :   64L                70L Transmission   :   5 Speed              5 speed Ignition     :   Push Start Button         Key Turning Radius  :   5.3m               5.65m Kerb Weight   :   1385kg              1525kg Dimension    :   4755(L)x1795(W)x1440(H)mm     4945(L)x1845(W)x1475(H)mm Audio System   :   BOSE 6speaker with Subwoofer   Premium Audio 6speaker with subwoofer socket Airbags     :   6                 4 Seat       :   Leather              Leather Braking/Safety  :   ABS, EBD, EBA, DSC, AFS      ABS, EBD, BA, VSA Sunroof     :   Yes                No Rain sensor Auto lamp Rear view mirror auto dimmer 3 memory seat CF-Net 10,000km service interval Dual exhaust |
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Jun 23 2008, 04:01 PM
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Jun 24 2008, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(Royrogers @ Jun 23 2008, 11:51 PM) Hi guys, i'm new here. I'm a currently an owner of Civic 1.8 and very tempted to change to M6 2.5 after my test drive 2 weeks ago. Am completely in love with the M6 for its solid built, nice interior with all the premium goodies and I must say it is a gorgeous looking car. I have test drive all 3 cars, Accord 2.4, Camry 2.4 and M6 2.5. I'm not bias to any brand but I must say the M6 blew me away. Though the Accord and Camry does feels more spacious and comfortable but it does not gives me the satisfaction I want as a driver. The M6 is a driver's car. The handling is superb and definitely feels more powerful despite having less 10hp than the Accord. Honestly, I just dont feel the 180 horses in the Accord. And the Camry? Boring! Many ppl always look at the HP but for more accurate comparison, one should look at the torque and power to weight ratio for better acceleration which is what we want, Mazda clearly better..You felt it too right? Acceleration for Accord a bit slow and heavy but that is good if you are a passenger or you just want a gentle ride and it might save a bit of fuel. Accord 180 hp only kicks in at 6,500rpm while Mazda kicks in earlier at 6,000..by the way would you want to do that? Floor on your precious car at 6,500rpm? So more realistic way is to look at the torque, Accord 222 @ 4,300 while Mazda 226 @ 4,000..So Mazda torque again kicks in earlier..plus Mazda is over 100kg lighter too...I saw the lilac silver, it looks really nice at night... |
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Jun 24 2008, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(genkis3 @ Jun 23 2008, 11:16 PM) reliable info ? hopefully not... From the SA...was told that actual price for this car is 185k. because Camry and Accord is priced at 170k, they have to bring it down to 170k to compete. Price was revised to 175k after they saw very good respond. Obviously this car should be far more expensive than Accord and Camry..Being CBU Japan plus so complete package..As I mentioned earlier in this tread, Mazda 6 is far more expensive than Accord in Australia. In europe, it is priced the same as Audi A4, Passat, Accord Euro which is a 200hp car. i also want to get it quick , but must wait after my business trip. hm..silver or white better? |
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Jun 25 2008, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(billytong @ Jun 25 2008, 03:36 PM) I bought the white one. 2.5L. by just looking at the feature set and the technology alone. the Mazda6 clearly out class the Accord. Billy, you took delivery of your car already? How was it? Saw one yesterday in Sri Hartamas.....from far it looks a bit like Fairlady (front) and it clearly stands out from others....got to wait one more month for mine... btw, jchue73, the black one is 2.0L only which has A LOT less feature than the 2.5L for just 30K less. Those Feature that 2.5L has is certainly/Absolutely worth more than 30K. Did the car salesman actually explain detail enough the extra feature the 2.5L has? Check again b4 u regret later, it is a LOT of diff for just 30K. some of the extras that I remember that the 2.5L has over 2.0L ones: ( I cant recall all of them, but I list some of which I remember) -Keyless feature -push start engine button -Sunroof -Bose Speaker + 6 disc CD changer -18inch Sport Rim (they generally look better than the 2.0 ones) -rear spoiler -Paddle Shift and many more which I couldnt remember lol I last heard quite a number of 2.0L buyer regret on buying the 2.0L one. Btw,The new MX-5, which is quite a chick magnet |
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Jun 25 2008, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jun 25 2008, 04:00 PM) billytong, I'm fully aware of the merits of the 2.5L vs 2.0L Mazda6. I was looking from the side about 100meter away and it really do look a bit like fairlady...but all in all we shouldnt even compare Accord with this gorgeous IMO....it should be rubbing shoulders with the continental..... The 2.5L does come in black. Previously only pearl white and lilac silver... Added on June 25, 2008, 4:02 pm Fairlady? Added on June 25, 2008, 4:20 pm QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jun 25 2008, 04:18 PM) I was looking from the side about 100meter away and it really do look a bit like fairlady...but all in all we shouldnt even compare Accord with this gorgeous IMO....it should be rubbing shoulders with the continental..... Looks like we are all getting our baby in July...Mine is coming in July too...This post has been edited by iceman08: Jun 25 2008, 04:20 PM |
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Jun 26 2008, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(kizuna6 @ Jun 25 2008, 09:28 PM) pump twice since i got mine....based on current rate, my calculation shows 28 cents/km. Pretty good FC for a 2.5L car. Did you have the 2.5 emblem on your car? I saw that in the test drive car..my opinion, cheap quality. It just didnt match the beauty of this car and the original Mazda 6 emblem.. |
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Jun 26 2008, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jun 25 2008, 10:38 PM) Don't you know that you get fuel rebate when you drive the 2.5L? 0.28 is possible in mixed driving and don't forget, new car sure drive very gentle...sayang the car and show off to the Accord drivers also la.. Just kidding. I suspect what kizuna6 reported is based on mixed driving. I would think FC for both 2.4L Accord and the 2.5L Mazda6 are about equal. |
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Jun 27 2008, 11:31 AM
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I m getting a custom made 2.5 S-VT emblem from Japan. Is made of alloy instead of plastic. Should cost less than RM200 and will be cheaper if i can get more buyers. Please let me know if you are interested.
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Jun 27 2008, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jun 27 2008, 12:36 PM) Will show it to you once i get the design from them. Beside the 2.5 SVT, it will have a small mazdaspeed logo next to it. It will be nice if we can get more M6 owners to order for cheaper price and also to standardised our look. Otherwise it will be a bit rojak with some on the original Bermaz emblem. I can get them to do it for 2.0 owners too.. |
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