2008 Mazda6 2.5 vs 2008 Accord 2.4, Compare 2 hot models from Honda & Mazda
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 Jun 19 2008, 03:09 PM
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I was actually looking very closely at the Accord 2.4L. But then when I saw the Mazda 2.5L, I fell in love with it. Even my wife who has a very fixed and conservative mindset and who was so adament about the Honda fell in love with Mazda once she saw and test drove it.
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Jun 19 2008, 05:32 PM
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Just got this from the Mazda Malaysia forum website...
CODE New Mazda 6 (2.5L) New Accord (2.4L) Origin : Japan (CBU) Malaysia (CKD) Price : RM171,500.- OTR RM171,800.- OTR Engine : 4 Cylinder DOHC 16-Valve S-VT 4 Cylinder SOHC 16-Valve i-VTEC HP/rpm : 170/6000 180/6500 Torque : 226Nm@4000rpm 222Nm@4300rpm Rim : 18 inches 225/45 17inches 225/50 Fuel tank : 64L 70L Transmission : 5 Speed 5 speed Ignition : Push Start Button Key Turning Radius : 5.3m 5.65m Kerb Weight : 1385kg 1525kg Dimension : 4755(L)x1795(W)x1440(H)mm 4945(L)x1845(W)x1475(H)mm Audio System : BOSE 6speaker with Subwoofer Premium Audio 6speaker with subwoofer socket Airbags : 6 4 Seat : Leather Leather Braking/Safety : ABS, EBD, EBA, DSC, AFS ABS, EBD, BA, VSA Sunroof : Yes No |
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Jun 20 2008, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jun 19 2008, 09:25 PM) This shows that the mazda is cheaper and its a CBU!! Actualy, I made a slight mistake. Did not check when I copied the info. Well, just the pricing needs to be updated because the Mazda went up in price slightly.TO add to this,its got a BOSE sound system! Accord 2.4 really sucked big time tthis time around...SOHC no power at all even though its got more horsies than Mazda.  The correct pricing for the Mazda 6 should be RM 175,570.20 OTR. But then again, I took a further peek and noticed that the Mazda 6 already comes with the necessary front, rear, side and trunk spoilers. For the Accord, you need to add RM 5,560 (front spoiler RM 1,180 + rear spoiler RM 1,370 + side spoiler RM 2,180 + trunk spoiler RM 803) for the Modulo accessories.  You'll find that the Modulo accessories + the base price of the car slightly more expensive than the Mazda 6 even after the slight price increase of the Mazda 6.  Added on June 20, 2008, 1:55 pm QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ Jun 19 2008, 10:06 PM) and the accord is longer, wider and taller than the mazda6. Actually, if you consider the Accord as a "luxury" sedan, then it falls a lot short compared to the Mazda 6 which you consider as sports sedan. Where got meaning? its actually a comparison between sport sedan with luxury sedan, in an Asian way.  This post has been edited by jchue73: Jun 20 2008, 01:55 PM |
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Jun 21 2008, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(terrysoh @ Jun 20 2008, 08:24 PM) think the mazda looks sportier and accord looks more luxury If luxury without problems is fine. But the reports coming in that the new Accord is plagued with annoying problems associated with local assembly is worrying. No surprise being a CKD.Added on June 21, 2008, 1:53 pm QUOTE(psychict @ Jun 20 2008, 09:14 PM) How's Mazda's performance compared to VTEC? I came across this website comparing the Accord 2.4L and the Mazda6 2.5L (amongst other cars);QUOTE On test, the 6 wastes no time stamping its authority on the performance charts. From a standing start, the 6 gets serious the instant you plant the pedal and step off the anchors. The tyres chirp cheerily for a moment as the autobox hooks up, launching the Mazda with perceptibly more thrust than the others. Thus the 6 is away and gathering pace while its peers are still getting going, and the pecking order is pretty much set in stone by the time the field rushes past 60km/h. Up to 100km/h, there’s still only tenths of a second between them, but even at that point the Mazda leads clearly from the Accord which has the Mondeo and Octavia locked together on its back bumper. Beyond 100km/h the Mazda extends its lead as the Honda draws farther ahead of the Ford, which finally stretches away from the Skoda. Rest of the article is here; http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/Road_Tests/Tem...fullarticle=yes Added on June 21, 2008, 1:57 pm QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jun 20 2008, 10:20 PM) Malaysian are generally crowd followers....we treated Toyota and Honda household name already. Little did we realise that Toyota and Honda is no longer the same as 20 years ago where most of the parts are from Japan...Now what we get here are parts from malaysia, thailand, indonesia, philippines.... Yes. The herd mentality which got us into trouble in the pass elections...  QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jun 20 2008, 10:20 PM) I checked on Australian websites and my relatives there and discover this...Mazda 6 sold in Australia is far more expensive than the Accord..M6 2.5 was sold at 45k while same spec Accord 2.4 was sold at 33k....and the 45k M6 i m talking about is the slightly LOWER spec than in Malaysia!! The highest spec is 17"rim, no keyless start and minus some accessories...This really confirmed that the Accord is way overpriced for what we get here!! Plus from what I read in Motor trader, the CKD Melaka Accord already started to face loads of problems already. That's true. Perhaps the Honda plant is Melaka is facing high overheads due to high QC rejections...This post has been edited by jchue73: Jun 21 2008, 01:57 PM |
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Jun 23 2008, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(DrJackal @ Jun 23 2008, 10:55 AM) How reliable is this information ? My apologies. I copied the info earlier and did not realise that it contained some mistakes. I believe the 2.4L Accord comes with a DOHC engine and th 2.0L Accord with SOHC engine.As far as i know, Accord 2.4 is running on K-series engine which is DOHC , only the latest R-series found in stream , crv , etc are running on SOHC config, but there's no 2.4 R-series yet... Corrected comparison as follows; CODE New Mazda 6 (2.5L) New Accord (2.4L) Origin : Japan (CBU) Malaysia (CKD) Price : RM 175,570.20.- OTR RM171,800.- OTR Engine : 4 Cylinder DOHC 16-Valve S-VT 4 Cylinder DOHC 16-Valve i-VTEC HP/rpm : 170/6000 180/6500 Torque : 226Nm@4000rpm 222Nm@4300rpm Rim : 18 inches 225/45 17inches 225/50 Fuel tank : 64L 70L Transmission : 5 Speed 5 speed Ignition : Push Start Button Key Turning Radius : 5.3m 5.65m Kerb Weight : 1385kg 1525kg Dimension : 4755(L)x1795(W)x1440(H)mm 4945(L)x1845(W)x1475(H)mm Audio System : BOSE 6speaker with Subwoofer Premium Audio 6speaker with subwoofer socket Airbags : 6 4 Seat : Leather Leather Braking/Safety : ABS, EBD, EBA, DSC, AFS ABS, EBD, BA, VSA Sunroof : Yes No This post has been edited by jchue73: Jun 23 2008, 01:17 PM |
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Jun 23 2008, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jun 23 2008, 02:40 PM) Additional features in Mazda 6 Yes, thanks for the additions iceman08. Rain sensor Auto lamp Rear view mirror auto dimmer 3 memory seat CF-Net 10,000km service interval Dual exhaust  My wife really digs the memory seat.  |
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Jun 23 2008, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Jun 23 2008, 03:50 PM) 10k service interval and dual exhaust is pretty redundant I believe. Dual exhaust is cosmetics and would serve no performance increase in this case I guess. But why is the 10k service interval redundant? |
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Jun 24 2008, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(Royrogers @ Jun 23 2008, 11:51 PM) So, NOW I'm still deciding on whether to upgrade or not with all the happenings on fuel increase and less demand for cars above 2.0. My only concern now is, how does the M6 2.5 fare on fuel consumption? I notice there are some new M6 owners here. Would really appreciate if you guys can share some info on FC. How many kms can your 64L achieve, combined city and highway driving, on average?? Hi Royrogers, welcome. In the link I posted a while back on page 7, an Australian auto magazine (Wheels) compared the Mazda6, the new Accord, Ford Mondeo and the Skoda Octavia in terms of driveability, performance, ride comfort and eveything else.About FC, this is what they had to say; QUOTE Take fuel consumption, for example. On the official numbers, the Skoda is narrowly the most economical with an 8.5L/100km rating, to the 6’s nominal 8.7 which pips the Accord’s 8.8, leaving the Mondeo clearly fourth on 9.5L/100km. Very remarkably, after nearly 1000km of peak-hour urban trundling, highway cruising, back-roads blasting, performance testing and photo shooting, the Accord, Octavia and Mondeo each exactly duplicated their respective official figures, while the Mazda 6 overshot its number by just a proverbial drop in a bucket, using 8.9L/100km. So all in all, I would say the Accord and Mazda6 are about equal in numbers once you get up to these engine capacities. And I believe perhaps this is about close to the Civic 2.0L FC? Here's the link again and make sure you read the rest for yourself.  http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/Road_Tests/Tem...fullarticle=yes Added on June 24, 2008, 9:33 am QUOTE(genkis3 @ Jun 23 2008, 11:16 PM) hm..silver or white better? Actually, the silver is not grey silver. It's lilac silver which is a little bit purplish in colour mixed with silver. Some people like it. Some don't. Just so you know...Added on June 24, 2008, 9:43 am QUOTE(Royrogers @ Jun 23 2008, 11:51 PM) Honestly, I just dont feel the 180 horses in the Accord. And the Camry? Boring! Sorry to keep on adding to my reply. This is how I'm made to understand how V-TEC engine works. Powerband comes in the higher engine RPM range for the Accord. I'm sure your Civic works that way too. So you need to rev a bit to get to tap the powerband. And I think revving higher would mean more FC, no? Don't know but at the end of the day, it'll be your driving style and right foot that accounts most for your overall FC. QUOTE(Royrogers @ Jun 23 2008, 11:51 PM) Would really appreciate if you guys can share some info on FC. How many kms can your 64L achieve, combined city and highway driving, on average?? Actually, you can also have a read in another link below about FC of the Mazda6;http://berjaya-mazda.com/mazda6-road-tests/ This post has been edited by jchue73: Jun 24 2008, 09:43 AM |
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Jun 24 2008, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(Royrogers @ Jun 24 2008, 09:18 PM) Hey guys, thanks for your feedback on my points. Anyway, the choice is clear to go for M6, its just a matter of personal decision to buy it or not. Most people I know seems to be in that "wait and see what happens" mode when it comes to changing cars with the way the government is going now. Ironically, some are predicting that car duties will drop. As for M6's case, let's just hope Bermaz will not increase the price further if they want to increase Mazda's market share in Malaysia! I personally think the prices will not drop. They just mentioned that the AP thing will continue for the next 10 years !  QUOTE(Royrogers @ Jun 24 2008, 09:18 PM) Anyone else bought or going to buy the M6? I booked the black one. Added on June 24, 2008, 10:52 pm QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Jun 24 2008, 11:25 AM) Because, pay abit more and get fully synthetic oil, then you get 10k service interval. Hmmm, the same can be said if you put synthetic oil in the Mazda6... 15k / 20k service anybody? Added on June 24, 2008, 10:53 pm QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jun 24 2008, 11:49 AM) In europe, it is priced the same as Audi A4, Passat, Accord Euro which is a 200hp car. I was actually surprised that some website reviews and magazines are comparing the Mazda6 with 3 series Beemer and Audis... This post has been edited by jchue73: Jun 24 2008, 10:53 PM |
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Jun 25 2008, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(kennie @ Jun 25 2008, 12:06 PM) my only comment is, accord and mazda6 are targeting different market. Accord for the older generation and the Mazda6 for the younger generation?From what I can see, older people rather take the Accord because of ignorance that a better car exist in the same price bracket or because of herd mentality. Well at the end of the day, each potential buyer has his / her own money to spend and there's no wrong or right in choosing either car. Just as long as the facts are laid out on the table and that potential buyers are aware of what is available to them before they make a decission. Also, I believe reading alone is not enough. You need to take a test drive for both cars and be behind both wheels to make informed comments. This post has been edited by jchue73: Jun 25 2008, 01:14 PM |
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Jun 25 2008, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(billytong @ Jun 25 2008, 03:36 PM) btw, jchue73, the black one is 2.0L only which has A LOT less feature than the 2.5L for just 30K less. Those Feature that 2.5L has is certainly/Absolutely worth more than 30K. Did the car salesman actually explain detail enough the extra feature the 2.5L has? Check again b4 u regret later, it is a LOT of diff for just 30K. billytong, I'm fully aware of the merits of the 2.5L vs 2.0L Mazda6.The 2.5L does come in black. At least the ones coming in the July batch. I'm told only 10 biji.Previously only pearl white and lilac silver... Added on June 25, 2008, 4:02 pm QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jun 25 2008, 03:44 PM) from far it looks a bit like Fairlady (front) and it clearly stands out from others....got to wait one more month for mine... Fairlady?  Don't you think the front looks more like an RX-8? This post has been edited by jchue73: Jun 25 2008, 04:03 PM |
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Jun 25 2008, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(billytong @ Jun 25 2008, 04:10 PM) hmmm Really? 2.5L Black?..May be I am the one not updated then, sorry. No worries. I also did not know until they mentioned it to me before making the booking. They have just decided to bring in the black for the 2.5L. Anyway, I actually really like the pearl white. Just that my wifey does not because it gets dirty fast.  Luckily both me and my wife agreed that we did not like the lilac. |
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Jun 25 2008, 06:13 PM
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Is yours 2.5L or 2.0L? Colour?
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Jun 25 2008, 08:42 PM
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Heheh, to remain special, I think we better stop posting in this thread then...
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Jun 25 2008, 09:25 PM
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Any fuel consumption to report?
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Jun 25 2008, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(genkis3 @ Jun 25 2008, 09:52 PM) kizuna6 , full city drive ? Don't you know that you get fuel rebate when you drive the 2.5L? $0.28/km is accord 2.4 fc before petrol price increase! now $0.39/km full city drive.  Just kidding. I suspect what kizuna6 reported is based on mixed driving. I would think FC for both 2.4L Accord and the 2.5L Mazda6 are about equal. |
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Jun 26 2008, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Jun 26 2008, 10:12 AM) Accord 2.4 = $0.25 per km. Not really as high as 28 cents..... Aiyah, depends on the person's foot lor.At the end of the day, driving style will be the determining factor for FC. See the review of the Wheels Australia magazine and you'll see both the Accord and the Mazda6 tested in the same roads, driving condition and same driver will yield about the same FC at the end of the day. Added on June 26, 2008, 10:41 am QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jun 26 2008, 10:05 AM) Did you have the 2.5 emblem on your car? I saw that in the test drive car..my opinion, cheap quality. It just didnt match the beauty of this car and the original Mazda 6 emblem.. Just peel off and put Mazdaspeed emblem lor. Added on June 26, 2008, 10:41 am QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jun 26 2008, 10:14 AM) 0.28 is possible in mixed driving and don't forget, new car sure drive very gentle...sayang the car and show off to the Accord drivers also la.. True true...    This post has been edited by jchue73: Jun 26 2008, 10:41 AM |
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Jun 26 2008, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(billytong @ Jun 26 2008, 11:58 AM) If u drive gentle style(low rpm), there is a draw back for ur engine too, the carbon will build up inside ur engine. Well, some people claim that a heavier foot gets them better mileage instead !So it is pure science here, Pros and cons on either side http://www.ozmazdaclub.com/forum/6-626-dis...el-economy.html Added on June 26, 2008, 1:32 pm QUOTE(genkis3 @ Jun 26 2008, 11:36 AM) my foot is heavy. You race car driver or what?  last time full tank rm105 drive for 370km only  This post has been edited by jchue73: Jun 26 2008, 01:32 PM |
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Jun 26 2008, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(kizuna6 @ Jun 26 2008, 01:41 PM) iceman, not sure what you mean by 2.5 emblem? My car come with std mazda6 emblem. It looks sharp and appear ok for me. I think what iceman08 meant was the emblem on the driver's (rear) side. The one that says "2.5 CVT". |
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Jun 26 2008, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(-=mayatsan=- @ Jun 26 2008, 01:56 PM) i'll go for mazda 6... BOSE sound system I actually did not realy test the sound system. Just over normal radio which on any other decent car nowadays would sound good as good. Anyway, for me, the BOSE is added bonus.  Not a must have in my list of preference.This post has been edited by jchue73: Jun 26 2008, 02:10 PM |
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