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 2008 Mazda6 2.5 vs 2008 Accord 2.4, Compare 2 hot models from Honda & Mazda

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post Aug 13 2008, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(kizuna6 @ Aug 13 2008, 01:08 AM)
today bought taiwan motor magazine June'08 edition which compare new Accord 2.4 vs Mazda 6 2.5 and new Accord 2.0 vs Mazda 6 2.0.

Accord 2.4 was prefer slightly than Mazda 6 2.5 due to its spacious cabin and assesories in which Mazda 6 2.5 lost out without bluetooth and back windows shade. hmm...

On the other hand, Mazda 6 2.0 earn more points than Accord 2.0 as the Mazda 6 2.0 (Taiwan version) was well equiped with assesories and it has proven that MZR is better than i-Vtec.
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I think they are just comparing features available in Taiwan.....Mazda 6 also have features like bluetooth but its not available here...as for back window shade..this is only good for an executive car not on a sportier car like Mazda 6..There are actually more features in this Mazda 6 thats not avail here like tyre pressure monitoring, navigation, 4WD, remote power window, RVM - warn you on vehicle coming from behind and side while traveling at high speed...another feature is where the car alerts you when travel above certain speed and approaching very near to a car in front of you just like a plane that warn the pilot with different buzzer according to distance...

You know my first and third tank of petrol is Caltex and 2nd is Shell...Both tank on Caltex give me 520km but Shell gives me 560km...plus and minus with my different driving styles, the different should be around 30km more on Shell...but I notice even on my old car, Shell gives better mileage but less power...

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post Aug 13 2008, 09:01 PM

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not quite sure on the petrol, but I am pumping my petrol all shell now. The diff wont be so much.

The cleanest of the petrol is more important to me than the miledge diff.
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post Aug 13 2008, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(iceman08 @ Aug 13 2008, 11:04 AM)
another feature is where the car alerts you when travel above certain speed and approaching very near to a car in front of you just like a plane that warn the pilot with different buzzer according to distance...


The Lexus IS 250 has this feature. It's called Dynamic Radar Cruise Control. drool.gif


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QUOTE(genkis3 @ Aug 13 2008, 03:26 AM)
if im not mistaken, taiwan mazda 6 2.5 is lower spec than malaysia mazda 6 2.5... the one i remember is taiwan without keyless entry...


Ok, the Taiwan website shows the key of the car and not the start / stop button...

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post Aug 13 2008, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(iceman08 @ Aug 13 2008, 11:04 AM)
There are actually more features in this Mazda 6 thats not avail here like tyre pressure monitoring, navigation, 4WD, remote power window, RVM - warn you on vehicle coming from behind and side while traveling at high speed...another feature is where the car alerts you when travel above certain speed and approaching very near to a car in front of you just like a plane that warn the pilot with different buzzer according to distance...
too bad malaysia dont have option to get those nice features. i don't mind pay higher price to get those features such as tyre pressure monitoring, RVM, Dynamic Radar Cruise Control...
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post Aug 13 2008, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(genkis3 @ Aug 13 2008, 09:37 PM)
too bad malaysia dont have option to get those nice features. i don't mind pay higher price to get those features such as tyre pressure monitoring, RVM, Dynamic Radar Cruise Control...


Like that might as well get the Lexus IS 250 at 300k lor... sweat.gif Got Mark Levinson audio some more. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 13 2008, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 13 2008, 09:55 PM)
Like that might as well get the Lexus IS 250 at 300k lor...  sweat.gif Got Mark Levinson audio some more.  biggrin.gif
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found the taiwan mazda web, it didn't stated got BOSE sound system and auto sensor wiper.
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post Aug 14 2008, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 13 2008, 09:55 PM)
Like that might as well get the Lexus IS 250 at 300k lor...  sweat.gif Got Mark Levinson audio some more.  biggrin.gif
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Lexus is some sort of like uncle ver of Mazda6. Not the kind of car I want at my age. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(billytong @ Aug 14 2008, 09:07 AM)
Lexus is some sort of like uncle ver of Mazda6. Not the kind of car I want at my age.  sweat.gif
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post Aug 14 2008, 09:41 AM

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Moded so much not uncle anymore. sweat.gif
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post Aug 14 2008, 11:33 AM

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sit inside IS250 and u'll feel younger by 10yrs brows.gif
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post Aug 14 2008, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(genkis3 @ Aug 14 2008, 11:33 AM)
sit inside IS250 and u'll feel younger by 10yrs brows.gif


Not 10 times poorer? laugh.gif The only thing I dislike about the IS 250 is the rear cabin space. Small.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 14 2008, 07:32 PM)
Not 10 times poorer?  laugh.gif The only thing I dislike about the IS 250 is the rear cabin space. Small.
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Haha, if you can afford the IS-F, the word "poor" would not exist in your dictionary. Besides, the IS-F is a performance car, rear cabin space take a low priority.
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post Aug 15 2008, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 14 2008, 08:49 PM)
Haha, if you can afford the IS-F, the word "poor" would not exist in your dictionary. Besides, the IS-F is a performance car, rear cabin space take a low priority.


Dimensions and interior rear cabin for the IS-F should be the same as the IS 250 right? Since the IS-F is a modded soup up IS 250...
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 15 2008, 01:13 AM)
Dimensions and interior rear cabin for the IS-F should be the same as the IS 250 right? Since the IS-F is a modded soup up IS 250...
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It's the IS250 or IS350 with the finess line modification and kits. For the price of USD 61,415.00 OTR exclu. tax&insurance. You get the following:

- 5.0-liter V8, DOHC, 32-valve, intake camshaft and Electric Variable Valve Timing with intelligence(VVT-iE), exhaust camshaft hydraulic Variable Valve Timing with intelligence (VVT-i)
- 416 hp @ 6,600rpm, 371lb.-ft torque @ 5,200 rpm
- Eight-speed Sport Direct-Shift automatic transmission with paddle shift and manual mode
- Paddle shifters; quick upshifts, throttle blip on downshifts
- Sport-tuned suspension
- Double-wishbone front suspension with high-mount upper arms, high-rate coil springs with bound stopper, monotube gas-filled shock absorbers, large-diameter hollow stabilizer bar
- Multi-link rear suspension with low-mount upper arms, high-rate coil springs with bound stopper, monotube gas-filled shock absorbers, large-diameter stabilizer bar
- Rear-wheel drive
- Electronic Power Steering (EPS): Vehicle speed-sensing coaxial rack and pinion, power assist, F sport mode adjustable
- Four-wheel power-assisted ventilated disc brakes (Brembo®)
- 19-in 10-spoke forged aluminum alloy (BBS) with 225/40R19 93Y front, 255/35R19 96Y rear tires
- Air vents
- Rear spoiler
- Sport engine exclusive to IS F
- Scavenge oil pump
- Titanium intake valves
- Dual air-intake system
- Leather-trimmed interior with "F" logo embroidered in sides of seat cushions
- Hand-finished aluminized composite trim
- One-piece cut pile carpeting
- Two front and two rear articulating assist grips
- Leather-trimmed steering wheel with "F" logo
- Perforated leather-and-metal shift knob
- Steering-wheel-mounted paddle shifters with "+" and "-" highlighted in blue
- Steering-wheel-mounted audio and trip computer display controls
- Tilt-and-telescopic steering wheel with memory
- Lexus 13-speaker Premium Mark Levinson Sound System with Automatic Sound Levelizer (ASL) and in-dash, single-feed, six-disc CD auto-changer
- Auxiliary iPod® /MP3/Windows Media® Audio (WMA) port
- In-glass antenna with separate FM diversity antenna
- 10-way driver's and front passenger's (including lumbar) power seats with three-position memory
- Heated front seats
- Height-adjustable headrests for all seats
- Dual-zone automatic climate control with interior air filter, smog sensor and automatic recirculation mode
- Power tilt-and-slide moonroof with one-touch open/close and seven-position open ability
- Power windows with one-touch auto open/close feature
- Remote-linked window and moonroof opening
- Retained accessory power for windows and moonroof
- Electrochromic (auto-dimming) inside rearview mirror
- Power door locks with anti-lockout
- Cruise control
- SmartAccess with push-button Start/Stop
- Center console with padded lid and slide back/up functionality
- Rear-seat center console in four-seat configuration
- Foldout front-door pockets with water bottle cut-out
- Homelink universal transceiver to operate compatible garage, gate, home lighting and home security systems
- Illuminated entry system
- Electroluminescent instrumentation with unique start-up sequence
- Illuminated interior electronic outside mirror control, trunk-lid and fuel-filler door releases
- Lexus Personalized Settings (LPS) to customize select electronic functions
- Automatic on/off projector-beam headlamps with 30-second delay
- Front and rear dome light and individual LED map lights integrated into headliner
- Trunk pass-through
- Carpeted floor mats
- Engine cover with "F" logo
- Blue LED-illuminated needles for speedometer and tachometer
- Machined aluminum meter rings
- Two front and two rear cupholders
- Driver's and front passenger's advanced airbag system (SRS) with front passenger's twin-chamber airbag
- Front seat-mounted side airbags (SRS)
- Front and rear side curtain airbags (SRS)
- Driver's and front passenger's knee airbags (SRS)
- Three-point seatbelts for all seating positions, pre-tensioners with force limiters for front and outboard rear seats
- ALR/ELR seatbelts, ELR only for driver's position
- Height-adjustable front-shoulder belt anchors
- Child Restraint Seat (CRS) tether anchor brackets for rear outboard seating positions
- Four-wheel power-assisted ventilated disc brakes (Brembo®)
- Four-sensor, four-channel Anti-lock Braking system (ABS)
- Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management (VDIM) with sport mode
- Vehicle Stability Control (VSC)
- Traction Control (TRAC)
- Brake Assist
- Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD)
- Direct Tire Pressure Monitor System
- Highly rigid body structure with front and rear crumple zones
- Side-impact door beams
- Reinforcements in pillars
- Impact-dissipating upper interior trim
- Collapsible steering column
- Bi-xenon HID, auto-leveling headlamps
- Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS)
- Daytime running lights
- Integrated foglamps
- Water-repellent front-door glass
- Variable intermittent windshield wipers with mist cycle, rain sensor option
- Rear-window defogger with auto-off timer
- Power-adjustable outside mirrors with defoggers and puddle lamps
- Vehicle theft-deterrent and engine-immobilizer system
- First aid kit
- Tool kit

sad.gif All for the price of less than RM210k and they're selling the baseline model here for RM303,721.00. At least 100 grand there going into tax and duties sad.gif

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post Aug 15 2008, 11:57 AM

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yesterday i was in 1utama ad saw a roadshow on the mazda car. i think mazda is really uplifting itself to the next level, i do really respect the new madza 6 and i think it was really design to perfection.

about honda, i think , hmm, hard to choose. but if i have the chance i think i would go for mazda 6.
the best looking interior was the cx9, dammed luxury, the interior was like, u feel u are really driving a very well made SUV.

as for the mazda 5, 2 power doors man,. where can u get, and very very ergonomic design for the second row, i would say for its price, it is a steal.

wish is too small, and stream,. never been inside one. so i dont know.

but the power doors are really cool man. nothing like it.

plus the mazda 3, i think i might think of it. but the price is a bit steep for that size.
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QUOTE(sonyman @ Aug 15 2008, 11:57 AM)
yesterday i was in 1utama ad saw a roadshow on the mazda car. i think mazda is really uplifting itself to the next level, i do really respect the new madza 6 and i think it was really design to perfection.

about honda, i think , hmm, hard to choose. but if i have the chance i think i would go for mazda 6.
the best looking interior was the cx9, dammed luxury, the interior was like, u feel u are really driving a very well made SUV.

as for the mazda 5, 2 power doors man,. where can u get, and very very ergonomic design for the second row, i would say for its price, it is a steal.

wish is too small, and stream,. never been inside one. so i dont know.

but the power doors are really cool man. nothing like it.

plus the mazda 3, i think i might think of it. but the price is a bit steep for that size.
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The Inspi.. Accord is a bigger car hence I believe material cost is also higher. Mazda 6 holds the following advantage over its competitors:

Prices:
Mazda 6 2.5L: rm178,359.00 (OTR)
Accord 2.4L: RM171,800.00 (OTR)
Camry 2.4V: RM170,545.09 (OTR)

The Mazda 6 pricing may not be correct so any update will be great.

Listed are equipment only. NVH & vehicle styling is subjective and not included in the list. Performance not listed as well.

Better against Accord by offering:

2 more airbags
AFS on Headlights
Brake pedal detachment design
8 way power seats for both driver and passenger + memory function
60:40 rear folding seats
Sunroof
Auto-dim rear view mirrors
Rain sensing wipers
Advanced keyless entry and push start/stop engine
Additional control options on steering
Electric power steering
Front parking sensors
Bose speakers
More trunk capacity (450L) to 480L

but loses out on:

Cabin space
Water dispersing side and rear windows
Hydrophillic side mirrors
Tower Bar (chassis brace)
Hood damper hmm.gif
Rear curtain

Better against Camry by offering:

4 more airbags
Paddle Shift
Memory function on power seats
60:40 rear folding seats
Sunroof
Auto-dim rear view mirrors
Rain sensing wipers
Advanced keyless entry and push start/stop engine
Bose speakers
More trunk capacity (420L) to 480L

but loses out on:

Power shoulder seat button
Hydrophillic wide view side mirrors
Plasmacluster air-conditioning
Perforated leather seats
Impact sensing fuel cut
Rear curtain

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post Aug 15 2008, 01:32 PM

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mazda 6
2.5 version

all the features that the cars in this class has is there already...

the only thing i dun really like (my views only) is the paddle shift...
- both the shifters behind the steering wheel is up..
- to shift down, you need to use the thumb to push the "shifter button" on the spoke of the steering wheel..

it would be best if the paddle shifters is setup this way
- right shifter - up
- left shifter - down
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lol.. kcng, u thought video game meh? tongue.gif

eheh.. but sometime video game view is the best tongue.gif


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post Aug 15 2008, 01:37 PM

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really what....
u shift up using your fingers and downshift using your thumbs on the new mazda 6 2.5L..

if u silap press, u change the mode of the car audio system or the volume
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i would prefer left hand paddle down shift and right hand upshift
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lp lp front lk hp = raging demon.. laugh.gif gouki's special move tongue.gif

eheh..

civic pedal shift is both but finger right?

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