I guess torque is old school but still relevant when it comes to talking about performance. Then again, Hondas can boast about their high revving VTEC engines. So torque is moot when you get to rev your VTEC engine at 7000rpm. The downside to this is you need to rev the engine to get to feel this "torque".



That's also probably due to the lower gearing on the Mazda6 as I've listed out.



Actually, not having to worry about adding gadgets / features was one of the major considerations why I got the car. Take the Modulo spoilers on the Accord for example. Yeah, it makes the Accord look much more sporty but adding the cost adder to the car price makes it more expensive than the Mazda6 which already comes with spoilers.

Not need to actually go to touch up, it is just very very minor. u actually need to look very closely to see it.

besides the JDM honda look really good to bad the Malaysia ver is not this one. if not I probably having a hard time choosing between Mazda6 and Honda.

Playing devil's advocate here but if given another car manufacturer that includes all of the above and drives similarly to your Altis at the same price range, would you be tempted to get that car instead of your current Altis?



Actually, some still think Mazda can go lower on it's CBU pricing. Especially for the 2.0L Mazda6 version. Look at the Lancer GT CBU pricing. For CKD, I think the most glaring example is the Peugeot 407.

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Added on August 8, 2008, 5:38 pm

Is the JDM Accord = Accord Euro?

I know the Euro Accord is loaded with features and gadgets. And if I'm not mistaken, it sells for about the same price range as the top spec Mazda6 in Australia.

This post has been edited by jchue73: Aug 8 2008, 05:38 PM

Normal servicing:
Oil Filter - RM30.10 (10% discount) - RM27.09
Full Syn 5W40 RM35 per liter - 4 liter = RM140

Every 10,000km change the above

Every 30,000km change:
Fuel Filter, Air Filter & Spark Plug

Every 40,000km change:
Brake Fluid & Engine Coolant

Every 50,000km change:
Auto Transmission Fluid

Every 60,000km Change:
Power Steering Oil & Fule Filter - EGI (don't know what's this)

Every 100,000km:
Change Timing Belt

Thanks for the info b00n. May I know what Mazda is this? I thought Mazda6 uses timing chain and not timing belt.

Anyway, what synthetic oil did they give? Which SC is this?

The service interval for Mazda 6 posted by BooN shows no significant advantage the M6 would hold against the H&T marque. In fact, servicing for major parts are stretched over several service as compared to H&T where it is done at one major point. Suffice to say, the M6 is still more expensive overall to maintain but with an attractive selling price, I don't see it being a problem.

As I have said, this point is negated if the user doesn't care to mod. Adding exterior mods won't void your warranty though I have heard otherwise from some Honda owners. I've seen drivers mod even more expensive cars like BMW/Merc so there's always someone out there who would want to be more "unique" for the lack of a better word, to mod their rides. It's maybe perfect to you, but others might not feel the same

Different people have different opinion My personal view still stands

Good question. If the Civic, M3, Sylphy are all equipped the same then I would still choose the Corolla because I like the look of the Corolla more than the other Civic and M3 and it's more comfortable imo. The Sylphy would 1up the Corolla in comfort but its styling does not appeal to me, not even from the start so to quote what you have said:

Your above statement would apply well to my choice of the Corolla over Sylphy.

Anyways, it's too bad the new Nissan Teana isn't CKD or pushed here to replace the aging Cefiro. Of all current generation D-segment sedans, I like the new Teana best.

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Aug 9 2008, 01:47 AM

I don't understand. How can you conclude that maintenance is still more expensive on the Mazda6 when service schedules for the Accord is done at 5000km intervals? Do you have the prices of the parts replaced by Honda for the recommended maintenance schedule of the Accord?

Also, how can you make a conclusion that major parts for the Accord are replaced at one major point whilst the Mazda6 is done at a stretch of several services? What major parts are you referring to? I consider brake pads, shock absorbers, oxygen sensor, fuel pumps, aircond compressors as major parts. Parts that were mentioned by b00n (Oil Filter, synthetic oil, Fuel Filter, Air Filter, Spark Plug, Brake Fluid, Engine Coolant, Auto Transmission Fluid and Power Steering Oil) are considered normal consumables.

The last part about changing timing belt is also suspect as the Mazda6 uses timing chain.



Most people say the Mazda6 2.5L's accessories, gadgets fitted, ride handling and performance to be adequate. Me? I find the Mazda6 adequate enough though not perfect for the price I pay. What do you feel is inadequate about the Mazda6? What do you think can be added and improved upon on the Mazda6 that can be supplemented as an aftermarket part? Care to englighten us on how to make the Mazda6 perfect? Perhaps you may offer us Mazda6 owners some insights that we may have overlooked.

The other strange observation that I notice is everyone here that comes in to this thread to give a positive opinion about the Accord gives in a one line sentence. When asked to elaborate further, we get no reply. Whereas people who have praised the Mazda6 somehow often elaborate why they like the car and it's design. Strange observation here. Hope you noticed it too.



A car being a liability (and not an investment) is not just coming from my personal opinion. It's a global fact. Hopefully, you don't put too much dough in a car to warrant it as an investment.



Again, I find your taste rather odd or perhaps it's blind biasness? You would rather choose a lesser equipped Corrolla than a M3?



Teana? Didn't you say you dislike Sylphy's styling?

One more thing. If you like a particular car, if possible don't let it go CKD. Malaysia still lacks the know how to build cars properly even though the same machines and QC procedures from country of origin are implemented. Sorry but I think we have a long way to go.

5000km intervals is if you choose to use mineral oil. The 10k intervals is if you choose to use synth oil. Citing my own experience, 1k & 5k mandatory and switch to synth oil. Then servicing at 15k, 25k, 30k just for air-cond and stretch to 40k for major parts like brake pads because the rest are only change if necessarily and in my experience, I have not had anything else that requires changing other than the brake pads. The timing belt has the same 100k change as well.

It's not about what else there is to improve, my point has always been about having the options to improve your ride if you so choose to. As far as I'm concerned, the M6 and the Accord are both fine as it is. But you can always find someone else out there, particularly true for Accord 7th gen, to change something about the car. Be it changing the rims, adding a nicer bodykit, I've also seen modifications to the cold air intake, some doing P&P etc. etc. Just flip a magazine, there are a done of aftermarket mods available for Honda like exhaust, extractors, bodykit, air filter, limited slip differential and so on and so forth, but you won't find as much "toys" available to Mazda (with the exception of the RX7&8 series). Just take a drive to Sunway and it's the same story.

Back in 2004, I did want to buy the M3 but it wasn't available in Malaysia. It's a car that's been out since 2003 overseas and even though it maybe better equipped, it's an "old" car and there are spyshots of the 2010 M3 so it would be pointless to look at a car that's a year away from retirement. The Corolla resembles the American Camry which I really like and it has hints of Lexus about it that draws me. Now for the Sylphy, something about that car doesn't quite click with me, I don't like how the car looks at certain angles and I don't like the rear which looks overly round, so pretty much end of story there.

But the Teana, the current generation Teana looks beautiful and oozes with luxury. Till this day, I find the car very attractive, but I can't say the same for the prev. gen M6 where it was really nice when it first came out but gradually lost its appeal over time. I like the new M6, I like how its styled and I hope I will still find the car appealing a few years from today. Anyway, I'm digressing and it's all beside the point so let's move on.

The Accord, M6 & Camry are similiarly priced from RM150+ ~ RM170+. Nissan's offering is the Cefiro and it has been discontinued elsewhere since 2003. Now the Nissan Teana, it's has been the sucessor for the Cefiro since 2004 and it's odd ETCM hasn't decide moving to the new flagship but instead import it in CBU for RM229,800 OTR. That's a huge price difference!

The Peugeot 407 is surprisingly able to price well below the market average but they are tied in with Naza and I'lll leave you to draw your own conclusions here. We consumers are the ones who benefit though so no complaints.

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Aug 9 2008, 10:51 AM

A car is clearly not an investment and this shouldn't be even in an opinion.....unless you buy an unmovable 18th century car that is priceless and which is more of an antique item..you may be able to reap some profit.

We are not comparing a Kancil, Viva, Savvy etc here..whats the big fuss on the cost of maintainance here? The only thing we are talking about is the filters where the different is not like sky and earth....Mazda oil filter cost around RM30, so Accord's filter cheaper by RM5? So what? Not even enough to enjoy my favorite chilli pan mee...We are talking such a small different and ppl will just conclude Accord maintainance is cheaper.....ON the lubricants it should be the same like Accord depending on what lub, fluid you use...and as for brake pads, in all my cars, the earliest i change was after 2 years...
And lets not forget MAzda 6 uses timing chain and does not need to replace..and how much is the Accord timing belt plus the expensive labour? It could cost up to several thousand for some cars just to replace timing belt...and we will not risk the belt from snapping which will cost much much more than the replacement...All this factored in, the cost could come to the same....I would like to remind you again, this is an imported CBU car from HIROSHIMA Japan and you are now comparing it with a made in MELAKA Accord....so is almost like comparing a sushi with a satay celup price

Ppl driving an executive car especially this so Executive Accord will hardly go for any modification...this thing is more suited for the smaller car or even the previous gen Accord...and i agree with you, there will still be ppl going for the modification...is their choice..

This post has been edited by iceman08: Aug 9 2008, 03:34 PM

Which Honda model are you citing your experience from? Year of make? Must be a good batch since nothing else is replaced.

I know original brake pads on the older Mazda6 that have lasted up to 100k km. This is under strong braking and usage.



Like I mentioned, the Mazda6 does not have a timing belt ! So the whole point about timing belt changing thingy is moot.



For the currrent 2.4L Accord pricing, there's lots of things missing compared to the 2.5L Mazda6. How can you say "As far as I'm concerned, the M6 and the Accord are both fine as it is.." ? What about the Accord that is adequate for it's price?



Ahh, but most owners do it because the stock suspension and tyres that comes with the 7th Gen Accord sucks. As to the body kit, I would have to agree with iceman that most if not all look Ah Bengish. Sorry. Having many choices of this kind might only appeal to a certain crowd.



Ok. My apologies. When you mention M3, I thought you referred to the BMW M3 !

But even then, the Mazda3 against the H & T variants is a no brainer. Driving dynamics and handling clearly more superior. Yes, spy shots of M3 that is slated for 2010 but when it comes, it'll be 2012. Even then if we're lucky. But I digress...



The reason why I asked was because the Sylphy looks a lot like a mini Teana on the exterior. If you dislike Sylphy's design, I cannot understand why you would like the Teana. Even the Camry does not come out so Uncle compared to the Teana / Sylphy. My humble opinion.



Well, probably Tan Chong knows their limitations assembling the Teana. Besides, to have begin having CKD models of the Teana, you need to have family saloon market share as big as say the Accord or the Camry. Even Camrys are CBUed from Thailand. Even if they did try to make a CKD, I'd be guessing that their prices will be in the same league as the Accords and the Camrys. I don't think they'll do a Naza here with the Teana.



The CKDed 407 is yet to be seen how reliable they are. But then again, the Peugeot design is already due for a change. So yesterday's model should not have any problems and should have their kinks ironed out. But I suspect being CKD, it'll be the same. What makes people think that CKDed 407 quality can be better than higher priced CKDed Mercs / BMWs that has nothing short of problems?

So all in all, Naza being new and having to prove their worth in car building business would have to entice people to buy unlike Honda and Toyota who have already built their reputation building good cars for generations (they still do, but just not good enough when done locally). More so trying to convince the general public's stigma of the problematic and high maintenance continental car.

This is the general service interval for all Mazda at their authorised service center.
Yes, 6 uses chain. So there's no need to change timing belt.

@zweimmk
5k interval is for Honda which also uses Full sync. For 10k interval, the engine lube is much more expensive close to RM200 IIRC. For the 5k interval oil change, the cost is also more expensive than the RM147 I posted.

Also, I still couldn't grasp your logic on servicing or parts is more expensive if both makes are following the normal scheduled service interval.
Yes I would agree that Mazda part might be some what expensive than Honda like you mentioned whereby Honda has their parts gotten from Thailand and also easily available because of the mast demand. But if we're going to compare apple to apple whereby if changes and parts are from the authorised service center, I doubted that the price range would be much different.

Regarding after market mods, you got a point there. But not many ppl who drives a Mazda really care about after market mods. Than again it might be because of different group of market segment. However the demand for Mazda car isn't really there yet. Let's look forward on how Bermaz goibng to position themselves in a Honda and Toyota dominated market. If demand is there, surely than there wouldn't be much problem. But save to say, if you're talking about minor mods, like Koni abs, Eibach springs, Tein, K&N etc...they do have for Mazda range even for the old model.



btw, before everyone mistaken I don't own a Mazda6. I do own a year 95 Lantis which is still running on stock original engine. Eventhough this car is considered "cold" but parts are easily sourced (as opposed to the myth of very difficult to find parts), even aftermarket parts which I had Koni abs on. My lantis friends do have their Mazdaspeed's mods. It depends on where you source those things. I also own a Mazda 3 which is daily driven by my wife. Though felt that the 1.6 Mazda 3 is underpower but overall ride stability and built is quite satisfying. My next car would most probably be a Sobbie Forrester or Mazda 5. But highly likely would still keep my Lantis 1.8

Mazda 6 price increase another RM3k again.....at RM178k now!!genkis, have you book your car? Looks like Mazda didnt want to get too close to the Accord/Camry... and to Billy, you should be happy to hear this news...

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Added on August 9, 2008, 9:42 pmJust browse thru the schedule maintenance for Mazda 6. Recommended replacement period.

Engine oil & filter - 6 months or 10,000km
Engine coolant - FL22 type replace every 195,000km or 10 years, other type every 90,000km or 4 years
Air filter - Every 48 months or 60,000km
Fuel filter - every 105,000km
Spark plug - Every 100,000km or 3 years
Brake fluid - every 24 months or 30,000km


This post has been edited by iceman08: Aug 9 2008, 09:42 PM

There's no fuss over the cost of maintainance, I'm putting up something to debate just for the sake of debating. It's actually quite hard to find the advantages the Accord against the Mazda 6. My experience is with Toyota cars, not Honda cars and from experience, my servicing usually cost about 200+ to 300+ and the expensive part isn't so much with the parts but with labor. And the truth is, the only things which I have replaced are engine oil (synth) and gasket, air-filter, brake pads and tyres. Others included wheel alignment and rotation which is quite standard. I have never used the car to the point where I had to replace the timing belt or shock absorbers.

I've replaced my brake pads during my major service even though it wasn't necessary. The things that needed to be done was the Automatic transmission fluid flushing, spark plug replacements, air filter replacements. Didn't even need to replace the batteries. As for the Accord, I really have no idea if the latest gen use a timing chain or timing belt but I suspect it would have similar service interval as that of a Mazda 6, more information would definitely be appreciated from an actual Gen 8 Accord owner.

Now you say there's nothing else to more for the new Accord or your new Mazda 6. I can tell you there is about 3 things you can do to make your ride even better than it is right now without any changes to its cosmetics or engine.

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Added on August 9, 2008, 11:57 pmSee previous reply to iceman08

Details are scarce for the Mazda6, even from the Malaysian website ;(
On the top of my head, the features that the Accord lack compared to the Mazda 6 are:

4 airbags as compared to 6 in the Mazda 6
Rain sensing wipers
Premium audio compared to BOSE sound system
Sunroof
Push/Start Engine & Keyless entry
Electric power steering as compared to Hydraulics

More info on the actual specs of the M6 would be great for a breakdown and comparision

Not much you can do about the airbags, steering, push/start engine or the wipers but you can improve the audio and add in remote keyless entry for the Accord. Sunroof is nice but I'm sure it's not something the people will miss greatly.

The point for me is it's been out for awhile now so it's considered "old". The 2010 model usually means it's due out next year but you're right, it will probably be out by 2012 in Malaysia if we're lucky but I cannot stand the idea of driving something that's old when a newer model is out and its not available for sale!

I don't think the Sylphy looks in anyway like the Teana except for some slight similiarity in the headlight design and the side profile. The Teana does not look uncle! It looks very classy But one man's meat is another man's poison

I've actually looked at the Peugeot 407 at 1U shopping center today. A few notes:

- The interior and dials are quite simple and spartan.
- The cabin space isn't very large, particularly with the rear seats. Feels a little cramped sitting in the back seat.
- The cockpit is very wide, gives good panoramic view of the surroundings
- It would appear there's no 60:40 split fold rear seats
- The utility console in the center is very small and don't appear to be able to hold much. But it lifts up a little which is a nice little feature as an armrest.
- The lack of storage space and cup holders are quite glaring
- The seats are very comfortable and the doors close with a satisfying thud.

For the price, it would seem like a bargain, but I still have my reservations.

In regards to modification, there are 3 things that you can do to improve the Mazda 6 (or whatever car).

1. Adding a voltage stabilizer + grounding kit
Doing this will improve your battery life and improve your audio and electronics. My battery lasted 2 years which was well past its 1 year replacement date! I can tell you you will notice an improvement in the clarity of your audio and slight improvement to the interior illumination (brightness). Either go with the Pivot brand or if you are willing to spend the premium - go for the Hot Inazama Hyper ground kit, it will improve your engine power by 2 to 3 hp. Won't void your warranty as it's an add-in item that does no modification at all to the engine. I personally used the pivot stuff so I can say it's a good product. It's also supposed to save fuel but I don't really see much difference.

2. Adding a tower brace bar (if its not available)
The car have better cornering characteristics, you feel less body roll (like you're flying to one side when cornering)

3. Foaming and soundproofing
I've done this to my car and my brothers Camry. Do a search on autoworld forums on autofoam. Trust me, if you think the Mazda 6 NVH and quietness is good, think again. This is the ultimate upgrade to really firm up your ride and reduce NVH. Not only will it stiffen your ride, it also reduces body roll, very obvious when you corner. As for the wind sound that comes from the window? Forget about hearing it again, it's will be gone or at the very least, become very much less obvious. The car roof won't sound like some zinc roof and your doors will have that satisfying thud closing sound just like a continental car. The exhaust and engine sound will also reduce and the undercarriage will feel more solid. It's hard to write it out in words, it's something that you have to do to believe.

These are 3 subtle mods that you can do to improve your ride without feeling benglish and the best part, they do bring out real improvements.

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Aug 10 2008, 02:32 AM

I m seriously considering autofoam but if you have driven a Mazda 6, you will be like me thinking if it is necessary to go for it...at least for now. I might go for it after one year to really see any improvement on it....I believe it still can be improve further.....As i mentioned before, this car is really very close to the conti in term of ride..and i can confidently tell you..unlike other japs when it rains there is no way it will sounds like a zinc roof..i think the sunroof helps too...I suggest when you see a new Mazda 6, try knocking the door with your finger and hear the sound of took-took instead of tong-tong in other jap car...(do it cautiously withouht the owner knowledge... )....and later try the Accord also and see the different...

If i m really really concern on maintenance cost and resale value, i would rather buy a Toyota..it is also more reliable than a Honda....I just don't understand why some new Accord owners will buy a 170k car and talk about saving of 20 bucks....

Give you more spec for comparison

4 airbags as compared to 6 in the Mazda 6
Rain sensing wipers
Premium audio compared to BOSE sound system
Sunroof
Push/Start Engine & Keyless entry
Electric power steering as compared to Hydraulics

auto lamp
auto dimming rear mirror
front and rear sensor
18" rim
rear folding seat
bi-xenon with auto adaptive head light
full LED rear light and 3rd brake light..
CF-net - control everything in steering wheel including air-con
full cruise control - control even the speed without using your foot.

The only feature not available in Mazda 6 but is available in Accord is the locally made powered rear curtain....which is by the way also available in a Wira 10 years ago... and of course it should not be in a nice sporty car like Mazda 6....no offence to Accord owner...my frank opinion...
Park this 2 cars in a second hand car dealer, which one would buy??

This post has been edited by iceman08: Aug 10 2008, 09:15 AM

There's a few owners complaning of previous generation Mazda6 and Mazda3 cars having car battery problems and that their batteries don't last very long like less than a year. There's also problem with some altenators going bust. Hopefully, the latest batch will not see these problems even though they are still warrantied for 3 years.



8th Gen Accord like previous gen Accord uses timing belt. That's another plus point for the Mazda6 that uses timing chain.



Their Malaysian website sucks. Honda's website anytime better and more informative.



Here's what you get on the Mazda6 2.5L;

Bose 7 Speaker System with 1 Bose Subwoofer
6-CD In-Dash Changer with MP3 Support and Ipod Support
Leather Seats
8-way Driver and Front Passenger Electronic Adjustable Seats (Driver with 3 Memory Settings)
60/40 fold down rear seats
Fully Automatic Sunroof
6 AirBags (Front, Side and Centre Pillar), Active Headrests and Crushable Brake and Clutch Pedals
Auto Headlights Lamp (Ambient light sensor) and Auto Wipers (Rain sensor)
HID Bi-Xenon Headlight (High and Low Beam) - Auto Leveling
Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS)
Auto Dimming Button for Rear View Mirror
Push Start / Stop Ignition System
Advanced Keyless Entry with illuminated welcome mode upon entry
Antilock Brake System (ABS), Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD) and Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) with Traction Control System (TCS)
Front (299mm) ventilated disc brakes / Rear (280mm) disc brakes
Separate Climatic System (Dual) Air Conditioning
Rear Boot - Button Operated from rear bonnet
Built-in Antenna (rear screen)
Paddle Shift System with 5 Speed Automatic Transmission
Dual Exhaust System (though not true dual exhaust)
Multifuction Control Setting on Steering
- Consisting of Cross Functional-Network (CF-Net System) to control Air Conditioner, Volume, Trip Counter/Info on centre console panel display and Auto Cruise System
18" tyres (225/45) with Alloy Sports Rims (including full spare wheel, not the slim temporary ones)
Body-Color / Sport Type Front Grill
Blackout Effect Speedometer
Immobilizer
Front Fog Lamps
ISOFix child seat anchorage
Front and rear parking sensors
Alloy foot padels
Electronic Power Assist steering

The other things which I've read are the boot space on the Mazda6 vis 519 litres compared to Accord which is 450 litres. Perhaps a little sacrifice for bigger rear cabin space. The Honda VTEC engine revs all the way top the redline at 7000rpm (and maybe more?) in manual shiftronic mode and holds the same gear without automatically changing to a lower gear unlike the Mazda6 that changes gear automatically regardless if you're in manual shifttonic mode and shifts if the engine RPM touches 6500rpm.

Fuel tank on the Accord is 70 litres while the Mazda6 is 64 litres. The Accord is able to use RON 91 fuel is required unlike the Mazda6 which strictly mentions RON 95 minimum. Kerb weight is 1450kg for Mazda6 while it's 1515kg for the Accord.

But seriously, you need to test drive one and feel it yourself behind the wheel and then do the same for the Accord. Then perhaps you'll understand why owners are so passionate about the Mazda6.



No comments.



Well, I've actually not seen the car in person and until then, I'll not give my comments. But then when it first introduced a few years back in CBU form, I was quite impressed with the car.



Thanks for the suggestions. Don't know if mods like the voltage stabilizer thingy would see any benefit on the Mazda6 but regardless, those are good suggestions nonetheless. I'm told that mods like the voltage stabilizer benefits cars like the Accord that exhibits engine RPM dipping / vibrating and lights dimming when the air cond compressor kicks in.

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Added on August 10, 2008, 6:57 pm

Ah, I see that you're referring all this to your Mazda3 / Lantis experience. So the timing belt thingy can be deleted. Saves about RM 1k or so?



I also thought that the 5k km intervals were with normal oil... That would make Accord servicing more expensive then.



Whoa... Why not CX-9?

This post has been edited by jchue73: Aug 10 2008, 07:06 PM

100k km is seriously good la... my current accord brakepad only last for around 30k km.

already booked 1month ago.
is that means the price will stick to july price ? coz they just gave me receipt of rm5k deposit, didn't stated the price of car wor....

by modify the audio, remote keyless for accord gonna cost u rm5k-10k. and the remote keyless gonna void the warranty.

i never try voltage stabilizer, but i did use car audio capasitor which similiar to voltage stabilizer. it did help in light dimming. i have grounding kit in my car and it's just a myth in my opinion.

autofoam look interesting, thanks for info.

i was told my 7gen accord using timing chain... which is true?
if 7gen using chain, 8gen will be the same.

A continental car like BMW/Mercedes also have obvious improvements after using autofoam. For a car like Mazda 6? No doubt the improvements will be significant. Even for the latest generation camry which is considered very quiet and comfortable, the difference after autofoam is phenonmenal. The stiffened chassis reduces noise from the engine and exhaust quite a bit. Handling and cornering feels tighter and there's less body roll. Using in conjunction with a tower will bring the best benefits. If there were any vibrations, I'm very sure you won't feel them after the foaming and your idling is better - feels as if the engine is off. On the highway, the car feels more stable and there is an obvious reduction in wind noise.

I've seen them open up the car panels to fill the B pillars with foam, very disappointingly, the chassis is quite hollow and the stuff they use to insulate noise is just a lousy piece of sponge and some thin padding. The door panels are hollow with some thin insulation pads (oher cars, it's just empty)l, so adding sound damping mats will definitely improve interior cabin quietness.

I suggest you drive your car for 3 months without the radio on, then bite the bullet and do the foaming and then drive your car again, the difference wil be very obvious. I have never looked back ever since after foaming, the feeling is just too god.

Add: One rather cheap mod you can do is fill your car with nitrogen gas. The car will feel a lot lighter once you do that and there will be a slight reduction of road noise from tires (1dBA difference).

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Aug 10 2008, 11:55 PM

i think mazda6 kerb weight is only 1355kg.
spec

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Added on August 11, 2008, 12:03 amhow much autofoam charge?

This post has been edited by genkis3: Aug 11 2008, 12:03 AM

It depends on the package you choose.
The cheapest treatment is the seat rail treatment which is about 400+
The next step up is the is just the side sills which is about 700+
Or if you fancy more comfort then do the undercarriage for 900+
There are other packages in between but I don't remember them since I went all out with the one below:

Foaming my car's A, B, C pillars, side sills, undercarriage, the seat rails, roof panels and sound proof mats for the 4 doors, engine firewalling - no less than 3.5k. Results are nothing short of satisfying.

Aiyoh, naik again? Any relationship of Bermaz to the current BN government?



Wah ! With my previous ride, I've only covered about 35k km for 3 years.

I think the replacement parts on my Mazda6 will be based on months / years instead of mileage.

I've browsed through Honda's schedule of maintenance for the Accord 2.4L and it shows the prices of the service intervals but it does not show what parts

get replaced during those service intervals.

http://www.honda.com.my/customer-service/a...cfm#Accord24_08

Perhaps the owners manual will list it out. Can anybody list them here for comparison?

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Added on August 11, 2008, 12:34 am

Glad to hear this.



The other option that a lot of people wish on their Mazda6 is the autolock function which I believe the Accord has.



The Accord please ! Because with the Accord, when I need to sell it again, I can still get money for it.

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Added on August 11, 2008, 12:51 am

I may be wrong on this info and you may be right. Any Accord owners can check if 7th Gen and 8th Gen Accords use timing chain?

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Added on August 11, 2008, 12:54 am

You may be right on this one and I may be wrong. Can you check in your owner's manual to see if there's anything on the manual that states about timing chain belt?

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Added on August 11, 2008, 12:56 am

Errr... Owners of the Mazda6 have already got problems to determine if their engines are running when the car is stationary.

This post has been edited by jchue73: Aug 11 2008, 12:56 AM