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 2008 Mazda6 2.5 vs 2008 Accord 2.4, Compare 2 hot models from Honda & Mazda

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post Jul 7 2008, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(dctrue @ Jul 7 2008, 01:28 AM)
if i were given a chance to choose between this 2 model, definately i will go for mazda 6 no matter what. i love the design very very much and it is very rare on the road.

but mostly people out there will get the accord eventho they like the mazda 6. maybe the resale value and mazda FC had changed their mind.

mazda 6 forever, zoom zoom!  rclxm9.gif
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These guys do not appreciate their car.
Ppl like me own a car not because of the resell value as I do not intend to sell off the car in the near future.
Even if I sell my car, I would have used the worth of it.
However, it's in a way true to say only Mazda lovers but Mazda cars.

Anyway, a lot of ppl do not or never consider this: If the car is good, why do one needs to sell it off to get another car?!.....
Agree?... wink.gif


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QUOTE(leftist @ Jul 7 2008, 06:29 PM)
only small percentage who can afford mazda6 or honda accord really concern bout jimat jimat...as for me,if i can afford 150k car who cares bout resale value,maintenance or FC...1st and foremost,im satisfied with my choice and the car must be a head turner..u dont buy 150k car and be treated like some proton or perodua biggrin.gif
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Totally agreed. And we're comparing price of CBU make here against CKD. A lot just don't understand.


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post Jul 7 2008, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 7 2008, 09:21 PM)
Well, I wouldn't consider someone who can afford a 150k car as having made it already. At best, he/she would be someone who could afford a relatively comfortable life but still have to worry about money when the grind kicks in. Of course it's a different story if it's someone who's just buying a 150k car just for daily use or if it's someone who aren't that concerned about luxury cars wink.gif

So I would think a car's resale value would still matter to some considerable degree and when the time comes to let go of that 150k+ car for something better (or worse), there's no doubt the majority of us would like to get as much money back as possible. Or at least this is how I feel, I would still want something that gives me great value when the time comes for me to let it go.

When I can buy a 300k+ (or more) car without batting an eye, then I probably wouldn't be that concerned about resale value wink.gif
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But you have neglected the fact that Mazda had been undervalued in Malaysia.....no?

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post Jul 7 2008, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 7 2008, 10:31 PM)
By undervalued, do you mean to say that the Mazda 6 is priced lower than what it should be or do you mean that it's resale value is lower than what it should be?

Regardless, there's always a chance that Mazda's would become common marque if Bermaz plays their cards right. Already I'm seeing more Mazda 3s on the road in comparison to a year back. Still, this isn't something that's going to happen overnight, for the time being, they have to play catchup and at least in my opinion pass Mitsubishi in terms of sales volume before Mazdas have a decent resale value.

It still is an awesome car by the way, unfortunately, my pockets aren't deep enough to afford it sad.gif
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Undervalued by the mass in the sense that not many appreciate the fact that it's a CBU car thus the demand is lower causing the resell value lower.
Did any thoughts crosses our mind on why the lancer can be sold that cheap when it's also CBU while matching the CKD honda price.
Meaning to say either lancer comes out of more low quality materials thus explaining the lower prices or they're just lowering the prices to minimum profit to fight in the market currently controlled by Honda and Toyota.

But yes, Mazda is priced at a more higher prices that I agreed. Am just disappointed that not many appreciates other makes besides the common Honda and Toyota. Test drive a 3 or 6 and you'll be awed by it. The built quality especially.

Cheers! wink.gif

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post Jul 8 2008, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 7 2008, 11:54 PM)
you Are actually buying the technology more than quality here.  smile.gif
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The technology and the astounding hardy built. wink.gif
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post Jul 15 2008, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Jul 15 2008, 10:56 AM)
Looks like you're looking down on me. I know Mazda CBU is better than my Honda CKD, but this is true. I'm speaking the truth.
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I think his main point is the difference in "procedures" between CKD and CBU.

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post Aug 7 2008, 11:30 PM

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btw, anyone noticed that the official service for Mazda is every 10,000km and the lube price is cheaper than Honda's Idemitsu oil?
Guess no one pointed that out......yet.....
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post Aug 8 2008, 01:41 PM

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Will try to post Mazda service details when I get off work tonight...
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post Aug 8 2008, 09:06 PM

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Normal servicing:
Oil Filter - RM30.10 (10% discount) - RM27.09
Full Syn 5W40 RM35 per liter - 4 liter = RM140

Every 10,000km change the above

Every 30,000km change:
Fuel Filter, Air Filter & Spark Plug

Every 40,000km change:
Brake Fluid & Engine Coolant

Every 50,000km change:
Auto Transmission Fluid

Every 60,000km Change:
Power Steering Oil & Fule Filter - EGI (don't know what's this)

Every 100,000km:
Change Timing Belt
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post Aug 9 2008, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 9 2008, 12:09 AM)
Thanks for the info b00n. May I know what Mazda is this? I thought Mazda6 uses timing chain and not timing belt.

Anyway, what synthetic oil did they give? Which SC is this?
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This is the general service interval for all Mazda at their authorised service center.
Yes, 6 uses chain. So there's no need to change timing belt.

@zweimmk
5k interval is for Honda which also uses Full sync. For 10k interval, the engine lube is much more expensive close to RM200 IIRC. For the 5k interval oil change, the cost is also more expensive than the RM147 I posted.

Also, I still couldn't grasp your logic on servicing or parts is more expensive if both makes are following the normal scheduled service interval.
Yes I would agree that Mazda part might be some what expensive than Honda like you mentioned whereby Honda has their parts gotten from Thailand and also easily available because of the mast demand. But if we're going to compare apple to apple whereby if changes and parts are from the authorised service center, I doubted that the price range would be much different.

Regarding after market mods, you got a point there. But not many ppl who drives a Mazda really care about after market mods. Than again it might be because of different group of market segment. However the demand for Mazda car isn't really there yet. Let's look forward on how Bermaz goibng to position themselves in a Honda and Toyota dominated market. If demand is there, surely than there wouldn't be much problem. But save to say, if you're talking about minor mods, like Koni abs, Eibach springs, Tein, K&N etc...they do have for Mazda range even for the old model.



btw, before everyone mistaken I don't own a Mazda6. I do own a year 95 Lantis which is still running on stock original engine. Eventhough this car is considered "cold" but parts are easily sourced (as opposed to the myth of very difficult to find parts), even aftermarket parts which I had Koni abs on. My lantis friends do have their Mazdaspeed's mods. It depends on where you source those things. I also own a Mazda 3 which is daily driven by my wife. Though felt that the 1.6 Mazda 3 is underpower but overall ride stability and built is quite satisfying. My next car would most probably be a Sobbie Forrester or Mazda 5. But highly likely would still keep my Lantis 1.8
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post Aug 11 2008, 12:16 PM

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Personally don't think there would be any warranty void in auto foaming as it's just a canister of auto form down the chassis.
If you took out the rubber lining on your door chassis etc, you'll find holes. that's where they pump in the auto foam and let it harden, strengthening the chassis.
There's no additional drilling or hole making or whatever in the process.
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post Sep 12 2008, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Sep 12 2008, 08:20 AM)
The closest equivalent is called the Mazda 2 and it's not available here. Dumb decision by Bermaz or Mazda in ignoring the 70 ~ 90k market.
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OT: and it's proven that Mazda2 is quite good in fuel efficiency area. Will post up the article when I recall where and got time to search.

 

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