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CaptWong
post Apr 24 2008, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Apr 24 2008, 09:12 PM)
tl;dr lulz, jk la, i read all, this is wat i call human post.

TS, u are a biasing person who always think you are right
lol at my english , i wouldnt mind, its internet after all, and i really really really hate your first post, despite partially of it is true, seriously i dont like UTAR due to the management and certain sh1tty lecturer where the whole lecture group dont like him.

so about the no choice stuff, its not true at all. all the stpm student in my course is very smart, of course most of them didnt manage to apply for local U, however we know one thing which is the earthman stuff. since u are so smart, u should know wat i mean. UM is great isnt it? wooo~ best UNI in malaysia. look at the ranking now.

How are u gonna compare the campus in KL, sg long etc with a long established college like KTAR? futhermore its only a temporary campus. Go see what developement will UTAR bring foward in future at kampar. U will never know.

be it u like it or not, no one give a dam, UTAR student is always proud of the uni they are studying because we are studying there and we know well smile.gif

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Somehow, i really have a feeling that the TS was being "employed" by other uni to defame UTAR, lol~~

"External Defaming Officer" ?? wuhuuuu~
Good luck to all UTARians in the finals!~ rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
i still have 6 days to go~!! yeah!
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post Apr 25 2008, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(CaptWong @ Apr 24 2008, 09:27 PM)
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Somehow, i really have a feeling that the TS was being "employed" by other uni to defame UTAR, lol~~

"External Defaming Officer" ?? wuhuuuu~
Good luck to all UTARians in the finals!~ rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
i still have 6 days to go~!! yeah!
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i think i screwed my accounts paper today T_T

despite saying bad things about utar in my blog, (i was damn damn pissed then....>_< apologies if offended u guys) After rereading it again, i noticed that i sould change a sentence. The last line actually, i shd not have said if u have money go other institution. Cuz one thing about utar is, some lecturers are quite good, of course i had WORST in my foundation program. Dice pronouce and SPELL as DIE. sleep.gif in my test anf final papers sumore -_-lll

anyhow, for us who cannot afford much, at least mca helped us by getting an institution for us. (i "assume" that was their initial plan la, minus the politic and the blackmail and teh rasuah la) At least when i come out i have a degree in hand.

i still stand on my 2 feet and say, DSA is TERRIBLE. The DSA MANAGER is INHUMAN.

Utar management, is not good

but overall....ok-LAH.....


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QUOTE(kanzakicyn @ Apr 25 2008, 02:16 PM)
i think i screwed my accounts paper today T_T

despite saying bad things about utar in my blog, (i was damn damn pissed then....>_< apologies if offended u guys) After rereading it again, i noticed that i sould change a sentence. The last line actually, i shd not have said if u have money go other institution. Cuz one thing about utar is, some lecturers are quite good, of course i had WORST in my foundation program. Dice pronouce and SPELL as DIE. sleep.gif in my test anf final papers sumore -_-lll

anyhow, for us who cannot afford much, at least mca helped us by getting an institution for us. (i "assume" that was their initial plan la, minus the politic and the blackmail and teh rasuah la) At least when i come out i have a degree in hand.

i still stand on my 2 feet and say, DSA is TERRIBLE. The DSA MANAGER is INHUMAN.

Utar management, is not good

but overall....ok-LAH.....
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die is singular for dice 1.. sweat.gif

i screwed up my web page design paper also today, when i read the question, i was so pissed, the question is like so vague, so blurr.. Its like you can write anything inside.. need to re-read almost 6-7 times oni i get wat they mean.. I really against utar exam paper, some are ok la.. but some really like they don't have a quality control.. The question sometimes very vague(not me alone, my frens also complained).. Haiz, somemore easy/simple question give 8 marks, explain 2 stuff oni.. sweat.gif summore i dono how 2 explain.. arghh

some lecturer are good, but as i can see, the good one always left utar and went to a better place(since my sem 1, about 4-5 good lecturers tat taught me, left utar..lol some to s'pore, to UM..).. some very terrible.. Some AS IF dun have a clue what they are teaching!! they are like come in and read slides.. one of my teacher, she teach english for science.. the slides spell copper wrongly, became cooper.. and she pronounce it as coooper also.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

but nvm lah final over d thumbup.gif thumbup.gif


Added on April 25, 2008, 2:48 pmbtw.. where the heck is TS now anyway? kena whack liao? till cannot see own thread.. lol

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post Apr 25 2008, 08:54 PM

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The reason I stand up for UTAR the overall teaching is great. I don't have any problem with DSA in setapak, I sent them email to complain something and I can see actions being taken very quickly. Not sure about sungai long though, however its all about HUMAN problem, nothing to do with UTAR, its just that the particular person which is doing wrong and affected the whole UNI? NO?

The only thing I hate is certain arrogant lecturer who think he is a Ph.D holder and start odering around trying to act like he is the smartest fellar pronouncing sh1tty english with some stupid attitude. Obviously everyone dont like him.

Racist problem never happened in UTAR AFAIK. UM is the best in Malaysia? Racist problem is serious over there, it had been an issue since many years ago and its a social issue. Their upper management as usual is by their KIND. Students also their KIND. All also their KIND. However Indians in UTAR never get bullied by chinese? Never heard off also and never happened before.

To TS, come over here and get your fact right. Defend your facts if you think you are right smile.gif
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post Apr 25 2008, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Apr 25 2008, 08:54 PM)
The reason I stand up for UTAR the overall teaching is great. I don't have any problem with DSA in setapak, I sent them email to complain something and I can see actions being taken very quickly. Not sure about sungai long though, however its all about HUMAN problem, nothing to do with UTAR, its just that the particular person which is doing wrong and affected the whole UNI? NO?

The only thing I hate is certain arrogant lecturer who think he is a Ph.D holder and start odering around trying to act like he is the smartest fellar pronouncing sh1tty english with some stupid attitude. Obviously everyone dont like him.

Racist problem never happened in UTAR AFAIK. UM is the best in Malaysia? Racist problem is serious over there, it had been an issue since many years ago and its a social issue. Their upper management as usual is by their KIND. Students also their KIND. All also their KIND. However Indians in UTAR never get bullied by chinese? Never heard off also and never happened before.

To TS, come over here and get your fact right. Defend your facts if you think you are right smile.gif
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well, there is one thing u need to know, dsa headquaters is in fict. And in fict, NOTHING happens, because of them. To do something is just TOOOOOOO hard... where as in sungai long, it can be done promptly. They dun have a specific guidelines to what can be used and what cannot be used. To them (DSA manager) when mood bad, apa pun kenot, if good mood, maybe can la.... U can see very big contradictions in their words. Once i recorded what they said and then when they break their promice, i played it back to them to hear, they deny and deny and then force me to erase the recording. so................ I got nothing to say lor. U can ask those from fict who tried to organize things, in pes or pam is easier cuz ur handling with officers and they have been given some power to agree on certain things.

QUOTE(Pmc @ Apr 25 2008, 02:44 PM)
die is singular for dice 1..  sweat.gif

i screwed up my web page design paper also today, when i read the question, i was so pissed, the question is like so vague, so blurr.. Its like you can write anything inside.. need to re-read almost 6-7 times oni i get wat they mean.. I really against utar exam paper, some are ok la.. but some really like they don't have a quality control.. The question sometimes very vague(not me alone, my frens also complained).. Haiz, somemore easy/simple question give 8 marks, explain 2 stuff oni..  sweat.gif  summore i dono how 2 explain.. arghh

some lecturer are good, but as i can see, the good one always left utar and went to a better place(since my sem 1, about 4-5 good lecturers tat taught me, left utar..lol some to s'pore, to UM..).. some very terrible.. Some AS IF dun have a clue what they are teaching!! they are like come in and read slides.. one of my teacher, she teach english for science.. the slides spell copper wrongly, became cooper.. and she pronounce it as coooper also..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

but nvm lah final over d  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif


Added on April 25, 2008, 2:48 pmbtw.. where the heck is TS now anyway? kena whack liao? till cannot see own thread.. lol
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ques : "when u roll 6 die, what is the probability that u will get a sum of 30?"

so....die or dice?
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QUOTE(kanzakicyn @ Apr 25 2008, 10:58 PM)
well, there is one thing u need to know, dsa headquaters is in fict. And in fict, NOTHING happens, because of them. To do something is just TOOOOOOO hard... where as in sungai long, it can be done promptly. They dun have a specific guidelines to what can be used and what cannot be used. To them (DSA manager) when mood bad, apa pun kenot, if good mood, maybe can la.... U can see very big contradictions in their words. Once i recorded what they said and then when they break their promice, i played it back to them to hear, they deny and deny and then force me to erase the recording. so................ I got nothing to say lor. U can ask those from fict who tried to organize things, in pes or pam is easier cuz ur handling with officers and they have been given some power to agree on certain things.
ques : "when u roll 6 die, what is the probability that u will get a sum of 30?"

so....die or dice?
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dies laugh.gif well at least my paper last sem is all correct.. when its plural they put dice
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post Apr 25 2008, 10:20 PM

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i am student from tarc and finish my diploma level now (Diploma for science (Internet Technology)) ... i should go for advanced diploma (Can get UK degree without oversea) at tarc or change to degree at utar ??

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Speaking about the FICT... my final exam had been in PD block, its very stupid, since i'm from PA, nid to travel all the way to PD.. In PD where my exam is held, there's one staff there that's very lanc(a woman).. when i asked her some question, she replied me with one kind of tone, something like (things like that also want to ask), and she's rude, her english is terrible too! that day i forgot to bring my ID for final exam, i asked my frens they said nid 2 ask the staff to write something, kinda temporary pass. So i asked the staff, i forgot to bring id, wat should i do.. Then she asked me, u have IC? ( her tone is like asking me to give the ic to her), so i showed her.. Then she say "got that one then wat else u want", so i asked her whether there's need to make tat stupid temporary pass or not, but she seems blur, so she asked me, got exam slip or not, i say yes, then she tell me "go and take, take ur exam slip" with rather loud voice as if she's annoyed with me. So i bring her the slip then she point at the ID number stated on the slip, she say "ur ID is there already what" at tat time i still dun understand, seems my fren told me different thing. So i dun care already.. Why don't she just answer my question?? she like dun understand my question, and her english sux badly, hardly can speak and the pronunciation..

Not only i kena, my fren also kena, once ask her where's toilet, she answer with a loud voice and a fierce face.. WELL she dunno meh that all the students is from PA, we donno wat the heck, and where the heck is the thing in PD, even finding the exam place is troublesome enough!

i dno whether she's part of the DSA or not, but that's the most rude staff i've ever met.. other rude-ers are the bus drivers..
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post Apr 26 2008, 01:10 AM

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Why u all so unlucky?
I am having my exam in PD too wat.. i'm from PA
but no such thing happened on me

I asked staffs questions, some of them even smile at me when answering my questions...

Maybe that shows not ALL UTAR staffs are that horrible?
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QUOTE(kanzakicyn @ Apr 25 2008, 09:58 PM)
well, there is one thing u need to know, dsa headquaters is in fict. And in fict, NOTHING happens, because of them. To do something is just TOOOOOOO hard... where as in sungai long, it can be done promptly. They dun have a specific guidelines to what can be used and what cannot be used. To them (DSA manager) when mood bad, apa pun kenot, if good mood, maybe can la.... U can see very big contradictions in their words. Once i recorded what they said and then when they break their promice, i played it back to them to hear, they deny and deny and then force me to erase the recording. so................ I got nothing to say lor. U can ask those from fict who tried to organize things, in pes or pam is easier cuz ur handling with officers and they have been given some power to agree on certain things.
ques : "when u roll 6 die, what is the probability that u will get a sum of 30?"

so....die or dice?
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Same here in Setapak la...... its all depends on their mood, mood good, all ok..... no good, cannot be done.

Why go against them, i wouldnt waste my time to deal with them like joining those commitee or club stuff. IMHO, its all waste of time and worthless. I rather use my time and stick in LYN KOPITIAM, at least i gain general knowledge than goin for watever club or events they organize.



PA go PD for exam is very common la, nothing to complain about, just live with it. About te BUS driver, i dont sit UTAR bus. Not even once, but all bus drivers are rude lol, last time I sit metrobus all of them are RUDE.
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QUOTE(Akane @ Apr 15 2008, 12:48 PM)
Frankly speaking, those who enter FES are average or above average student. Unless you met all requirements, the chances are slim. Especially these days when FES is so cramp and they narrow down the number of students taken in for each course. Hence, only the best of the best will be selected in. But there is no harm trying. If your friend is a qualified one, I am sure they will take him/her in.
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One thing i can sure about UTAR is. they did not really care about qualification. janji u pass all the minimum. then they let you in and let you die away.

My bro hav ask the head of PD block in PJ campus. He told my bro, i expected your tis batch student will only have 30% pass.

But when the guy persuade my brother go study. He juz say. this sschool good. this course good. apa also goood.

After go in, another pattern.


Added on April 26, 2008, 11:38 am
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hello juniors ..haha... how r u all? My dad sent me this link and I juz had a quick browse-thru, so I'm gonna put my 2 cent in hehe..

FYI, I'm currently pursuing 2-yr Master of Biotech (Food Science & Tech) at RMIT, Melbourne smile.gif

Yeah, I was like you guyz, UTAR sux, rite? Lolz.. in terms of facilities (I mean Setapak coz I've never been to Kampar), UTAR wasn't that good and was not up to standard, I expected a CAMPUS life with balanced life style.

if u talk about academic-related skills and job-related skills (FYI again, I worked in a pharmaceutical factory for 2 months b4 I came to Melbourne) such as presentation skill which is important in presenting ideas, procedures and all sort thing when u r in work or when u wanna present your reports and discuss with other international students.. UTAR gave everything u needed smile.gif Frankly speaking, I can ensure u guyz UTAR syllabuses are within international standards. I'm glad my lecturers in UTAR teached me everything that is applicable in my job and Master course in Australia. Imagine, when u're studying in a class with people from all around the world, Mali, Macau,Taiwan, China, Maritius, India, Australia, Arabian countries, and etc u may think "Oh, I'm frm UTAR, a lousy Uni, I won't b as good as others" then u r wrong! As a second-upper class grad, I'm happy with what I've been equipped with, I may not b the best in the class but I would say I am competitve enough for the Master course smile.gif

the problem is the students' attitude, they were always hoping for tips, hints and etc.. low initiative to learn and to explore more abt what's happening out of the textbook or the exams, for example biotech world, new technique for vaccination such as DNA vaccination, new genetically-modified crop that can be a new source for biofuel and stuff

Ask yourself, have u done your reports, assignments, practicals seriously? Have u learnt the proper skills to write your report? do you reference or in-text ref your reports properly? What do u actually have to write for your intro, material & methods and blabla to make the whole report flows? How to do a good presentation?.. these little small things are very very useful n are goin to b crucial in the future, either u r goin to work or further study. And u were given so many chances to practice but u were complaining at that moment, which myself had neglected as well(not to say totally) LOlz... if not I'll suffer here like my friends from Macau and Taiwan, they had a hard time with English coz their degree was Chinese-medium. Furthermore, one of them DOES NOT know how to do a proper referencing,it's kinda disgrace for a graduated undergrad student who should have familiarized it when she was doin thesis or some kinda project, and she DOES NOT know how to look for journals and etc etc etc.. Trust me, u will get annoyed when ppl started asking u the things they should have known...

So now, take up the initiative, do your homework or researches first b4 start throwing questions to your lecturer(s). I think they will b more than happy to answer questions from a prepared student smile.gif Over and out!

Cheers!

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Super good advice. TQ. It is very valuable from you.

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QUOTE(mphpopular @ Apr 26 2008, 11:27 AM)
One thing i can sure about UTAR is. they did not really care about qualification. janji u pass all the minimum. then they let you in and  let you die away.

My bro hav ask the head of PD block in PJ campus. He told my bro, i expected your tis batch student will only have 30% pass.

But when the guy persuade my brother go study. He juz say. this sschool good. this course good. apa also goood.

After go in, another pattern.
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I'm not sure about other Faculty, but in FES, if you dont have an average result, dont even dream of entering there.
FES has an unsual tighter criteria in selecting the students. Especially if you are from STPM/A-Levels, where the place are limited for them. As for Foundation students, entering FES requires them to a minimum pass in Foundation Science Stream, which I dont think is something easy to handle as well. As for STPM/A-Level/UEC student, due the numbers of Foundation student, their places are limited to around 30 per course for each semester intake. Most of the time, only those who had a better result will get a place, while others might jz get some less popular course.

Why they dont care about qualification? How well the students do in university will determine how good is the uni. Is either the students are bullcrap themself, that the lecturer give up on them or the lecturers already do all they can, but no changes in the student. I seriously havent seen ONE lecturer in FES that is willing to tell us "Oh, I expect 70% of you guys fail". All I hear every single sem is "I expect not to see your face next semester, so you better dont fail !".


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QUOTE(Akane @ Apr 26 2008, 11:42 AM)
I'm not sure about other Faculty, but in FES, if you dont have an average result, dont even dream of entering there.
FES has an unsual tighter criteria in selecting the students. Especially if you are from STPM/A-Levels, where the place are limited for them. As for Foundation students, entering FES requires them to a minimum pass in Foundation Science Stream, which I dont think is something easy to handle as well. As for STPM/A-Level/UEC student, due the numbers of Foundation student, their places are limited to around 30 per course for each semester intake. Most of the time, only those who had a better result will get a place, while others might jz get some less popular course.

Why they dont care about qualification? How well the students do in university will determine how good is the uni. Is either the students are bullcrap themself, that the lecturer give up on them or the lecturers already do all they can, but no changes in the student. I seriously havent seen ONE lecturer in FES that is willing to tell us "Oh, I expect 70% of you guys fail". All I hear every single sem is "I expect not to see your face next semester, so you better dont fail !".
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Mayb different people got different experience gua. So sad to heard the head say such thing to my brother.

But i very look toward like relationshiop between classmate in UTAR. bcoz my formal uni, relationshiop classmate tak ada.


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QUOTE(Pmc @ Apr 25 2008, 02:44 PM)
die is singular for dice 1..  sweat.gif

i screwed up my web page design paper also today, when i read the question, i was so pissed, the question is like so vague, so blurr.. Its like you can write anything inside.. need to re-read almost 6-7 times oni i get wat they mean.. I really against utar exam paper, some are ok la.. but some really like they don't have a quality control.. The question sometimes very vague(not me alone, my frens also complained).. Haiz, somemore easy/simple question give 8 marks, explain 2 stuff oni..  sweat.gif  summore i dono how 2 explain.. arghh

some lecturer are good, but as i can see, the good one always left utar and went to a better place(since my sem 1, about 4-5 good lecturers tat taught me, left utar..lol some to s'pore, to UM..).. some very terrible.. Some AS IF dun have a clue what they are teaching!! they are like come in and read slides.. one of my teacher, she teach english for science.. the slides spell copper wrongly, became cooper.. and she pronounce it as coooper also..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

but nvm lah final over d  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif


Added on April 25, 2008, 2:48 pmbtw.. where the heck is TS now anyway? kena whack liao? till cannot see own thread.. lol
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Muahahahaha, Ms Kong left sad.gifsad.gifsad.gif Soon Mr Ong i suppose, heard that he's leaving too. Two of the one of the best lecturers in their own field smile.gif
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lolz...talking about qualification..let me see in my class..biomedical science year3 sem 1...pioneer batch..my class has 49 students...A level straight scorer.3.9 in stpm. straight scorer in other exams...hm...the lowest qualification in my class would be around 3.0 and above in stpm?but that also is due to complaints by parents who said it's too biased to just let really good result to get in biomed.that's y they altered the qualification..i guess if they maintain the requirement,the class student would be reduced by 1/3.lolz


Added on April 26, 2008, 12:40 pmof course...UTAR is an private UNI...which private uni wouldn't encourage enrolment of students in? it's the main and only source of income for them and the lecturers.lolz.if the uni is being really choosy, i guess the number of students would be reduced by at least half and the income?lolz.the lecturers can go home and tanam jagung ade.


Added on April 26, 2008, 12:42 pmpeople alwiz judge on what other people said but never see the comments from other side. if the person said they expect 30% pass, why not see it as a challenge?and strive for them to see that they're wrong. it's the judgemental characteristic of people that stop them from seeing things from the other side.

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QUOTE(mphpopular @ Apr 26 2008, 11:27 AM)
One thing i can sure about UTAR is. they did not really care about qualification. janji u pass all the minimum. then they let you in and  let you die away.

My bro hav ask the head of PD block in PJ campus. He told my bro, i expected your tis batch student will only have 30% pass.

But when the guy persuade my brother go study. He juz say. this sschool good. this course good. apa also goood.

After go in, another pattern.


Added on April 26, 2008, 11:38 am

Super good advice. TQ. It is very valuable from you.
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The minimum entry requirement is just that, the minimum. Any less than that means you will not be offered a place, but having the minimum doesnt guarantee you the place.
So the one thing you are sure about utar isnt accurate.

Those who do not manage to do well, or at maintain 2.0 and above for 2 consecutive semesters will be terminated. So you will have to do your own part as well, whether you die away or not depends on your effort, not solely the lecturer's. No matter how good the lecturers are, they cant help you unless you do your part. I have to disagree with you about the part where they let you die away, because my lecturers were always ready to help, even going out of their way to help answer our questions. biggrin.gif but perhaps that is just in FES, cant say bout other campuses. Maybe my other friends can help.

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Ok, I'm at the last year of my degree programe. After so many years of exp, i recommend you to join diploma for 2 years. Normally you will play around in this 2 years, hence results are not as good as u expect.

Then, with this requirements, you can join degree year 2 programe. your CGPA will be recounter again. Hence, in this 2 years, you will work your @ss of to make sure u score 1st class degree.

Else, you will be like me, joined pre-u, then further dgree 3 years in UTAR. for the 1st year in degree, u still feel new, and your results no good, it causes your final CPGA to be low. And it's very very hard to catch up if you dont do well for your CGPA for the 1st/2nd year.

All at all, CGPA does the matter.
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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Apr 26 2008, 01:22 PM)
Muahahahaha, Ms Kong left sad.gifsad.gifsad.gif Soon Mr Ong i suppose, heard that he's leaving too. Two of the one of the best lecturers in their own field smile.gif
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miss Ms KOng.. lol.. cute,hot and good in teaching! where else can you find a teacher like this! only in UTAR and NUS.. ahahahhah.. Mr Ong lonely mah.. sure leave also lar rclxm9.gif
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Too bad i've never been taught by Miss Kong..

Only been taught by Mr.Ong before...
and i've few words for him..

"kanasai"
"you sucks"

Wahahahaha....
nolah, nolah, it should be
Mr. Ong, YOU ROCKS!!!!!!!

Did you guys see his friendster? we made a pink doraemon cake for him ... wahahaha for his farewell..
Pmc
post Apr 26 2008, 08:39 PM

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From: Asgard


lol.. i visit his friendster page quite often.. and read his blog too..

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