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devilousangel85
post Apr 15 2008, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(Catty @ Apr 15 2008, 12:50 PM)
i've been offered biomedical science in UTAR,
but i dont know if it is recognized and whether it is good or not...
i'm soooooo troubled...
give me some advises plz...
can any senior from this course share ur stories???
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QUOTE(Akane @ Apr 15 2008, 01:03 PM)
I'm from Biochemistry. Basically from what I know, the Final Year student will be graduating this year. That means MQA will be doing the assesment on that course at the end of this year. It is recognized by MOHE.

The course is good. In fact, traditionally, only top students are placed in Biomedical Science (entry via STPM/Alevels). But there might be tight competition and you will see freak who are able to score full marks in their test and exams. I had seen them myself and I am impress with students from Biomedical Science.
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I'm a biomedical science student. final year sem 1. graduating in sept. like akane said, we're going to have our evaluation soon. but there are also other visiting examiner that came to our campus and gave some talks. and from the feedback, it's been said that the course is very all-rounded as compared to all other private unis or colleges. the lecturer in charge of the course said there will be an increase in 1 or 2 papers to make our course more all-rounded and prepare the students for the markets outside. currently, the course is being held in 3 years time, but it will become 3.5 to 4 years course in time soon. our equipments are some of the best, and there are some equipments that we do use that no other private colleges and uni uses such as the flow cytometry and other stuff. yes, the entry for biomedical course is much tougher than other courses. and utar oni will allow a max of 60 students for this course. if u get selected for this course,i would say go for it. cuz it's not easy to get in. but u must be prepared to have really hectic schedule with loads of notes and course works. but it will turn out to be worth it. i can say that our course is so hectic that, our lecturer is proposing to the admin to extend the period for our final year project dateline and presentation by at least 1 or 2 months. but the future students will be at ease as we're the pioneer batch. also, be prepared to be looked up upon by lecturers cuz mebbe due to the results, lecturers tend to compare and they will mebbe put more pressure on the students to excel esp on biomed and biochem as compared to biotech.
devilousangel85
post Apr 21 2008, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(Catty @ Apr 16 2008, 06:52 PM)
thanks Akane and devilousangel85!!!!
u 2 have helped me a lot ~~~
no more worries~~~
u 2 sure will have a bright future~~~
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you're welcome. just be sure of what u want then u surely can go for it.

QUOTE(Pmc @ Apr 16 2008, 07:45 PM)
become 4 years course? that mean my batch will kena lor.. On May 08.. i'm from foundation at PJ there, will be in setapak in May. Ahh.. for the tough part, its been a widely discussed among my frens, and i've had a thought to drop this course, but i still convince myself to take it tongue.gif
Erm.. only biotech grads can become embryologist ke? I'm taking biomed, but if can i wanna be an embryologist.. possible ?  icon_question.gif
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er...well, this is not finalized yet. but the adding of the extra papers will be done gradually and the lengthening of the course will also be done gradually.so,most probably it's not coming anytime soon. don't worry.i'm sure the admin will announce it when the time comes.

QUOTE(selenium @ Apr 17 2008, 12:14 AM)
biomedical science u go apply medicine la mangkuk. do diploma in biomed then continue in first year medical in any private UNI. if u can afford lo.

as long as u got biology background u can do Embryologist where u handle sperm everyday. sperm sperm sperm. lab lab lab. something like solitary confinement. if u hate travelling u can try la. but if u wan money only go do sales.

for IMU post grad u need to have IELTS english test. you can apply that test in any australian or english embassy or IELTS centre. its something like MUET but tougher. (if ur englihs is poor la) but if english is ok then shouldnt be a problem.

IMU u can try asking dr Khim do intro to you any good lecturers in IMU and do research there.
you can also try UPM or UM and do your masters there lo. if you can
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well, i would say that not anyone would like medicine..i for one dun like medicine although i have the financial capabilities and the requirement to go in. it's due to the weird on call hours which will practically take ur life away(lolz)...and the stress that you're going to handle. doing medicine isn't as easy as u think.plus the 7 years being tied to the gov is really troublesome.esp if u're planning to apply for some holiday worker visa to any other country overseas...like me.


Added on April 21, 2008, 12:58 ami've also heard that some of our students managed to get into some prestigious uni in UK or US for their masters prog.dunno which one though.

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post Apr 24 2008, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE([="@k£LwIN@"=] @ Apr 24 2008, 01:20 AM)
hello juniors ..haha... how r u all? My dad sent me this link and I juz had a quick browse-thru, so I'm gonna put my 2 cent in hehe..

FYI, I'm currently pursuing 2-yr Master of Biotech (Food Science & Tech) at RMIT, Melbourne smile.gif

Yeah, I was like you guyz, UTAR sux, rite? Lolz.. in terms of facilities (I mean Setapak coz I've never been to Kampar), UTAR wasn't that good and was not up to standard, I expected a CAMPUS life with balanced life style.

if u talk about academic-related skills and job-related skills (FYI again, I worked in a pharmaceutical factory for 2 months b4 I came to Melbourne) such as presentation skill which is important in presenting ideas, procedures and all sort thing when u r in work or when u wanna present your reports and discuss with other international students.. UTAR gave everything u needed smile.gif Frankly speaking, I can ensure u guyz UTAR syllabuses are within international standards. I'm glad my lecturers in UTAR teached me everything that is applicable in my job and Master course in Australia. Imagine, when u're studying in a class with people from all around the world, Mali, Macau,Taiwan, China, Maritius, India, Australia, Arabian countries, and etc u may think "Oh, I'm frm UTAR, a lousy Uni, I won't b as good as others" then u r wrong! As a second-upper class grad, I'm happy with what I'm equipped with, I may not b the best in the class but I would say I am competitve enough for the Master course smile.gif

the problem is the students' attitude, they were always hoping for tips, hints and etc.. low initiative to learn and to explore more abt what's happening out of the textbook or the exams, for example biotech world, new technique for vaccination such as DNA vaccination, new genetically-modified crop that can be a new source for biofuel and stuff

Ask yourself, have u done your reports, assignments, practicals seriously? Have u learnt the proper skills to write your report? do you reference or in-text ref your reports properly? What do u actually have to write for your intro, material & methods and blabla to make the whole report flows? How to do a good presentation?.. these little small things are very very useful n are goin to b crucial in the future, either u r goin to work or further study. And u're given so many chances to practice but u were complaining at that moment, which myself had neglected as well(not to say totally) LOlz... if not I'll suffer here like my friends from Macau and Taiwan, they had a hard time with English coz their degree was Chinese-medium. Furthermore, one of them DO NOT know how to do a proper referencing,it's kinda disgrace for a graduated undergrad student who should have familiarized it when she was doin thesis or some kinda project, and she DO NOT know how to look for journals and etc etc etc.. Trust me, u will get annoyed when ppl started asking u the things they should have known...

So now, take up the initiative, did your homework or researches first b4 start throwing questions to your lecturer(s). I think they will b more than happy to answer questions from a prepared student smile.gif Over and out!

Cheers!

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i definitely agree to what you said and salute you....our senior.lolz.for what it's worth, UTAR really try to equip us with alot of things. and the lecturers are really good. for example, my fyp supervisor, Dr. Woo Kwan Kit...Man, she's really good and pro with her stuff. as long as u're in protein and proteomics world and u touch with chromatography stuff, you kenot escape from her..she's really good in all these stuff. i'm glad i chose her as my supervisor as she's really demanding and she's expect u to do all the stuff alone.like she said, choose her topic...it's 1man show.but u'll really learn alot from all these stuff.some people just go for the lecturers that is very lenient and teaches u a to z in fyp..but what's the point of doing fyp then?my advice...choose carefully..lecturers in utar are really that good.and u just have to know how to dig that knowledge from them
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post Apr 26 2008, 12:38 PM

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lolz...talking about qualification..let me see in my class..biomedical science year3 sem 1...pioneer batch..my class has 49 students...A level straight scorer.3.9 in stpm. straight scorer in other exams...hm...the lowest qualification in my class would be around 3.0 and above in stpm?but that also is due to complaints by parents who said it's too biased to just let really good result to get in biomed.that's y they altered the qualification..i guess if they maintain the requirement,the class student would be reduced by 1/3.lolz


Added on April 26, 2008, 12:40 pmof course...UTAR is an private UNI...which private uni wouldn't encourage enrolment of students in? it's the main and only source of income for them and the lecturers.lolz.if the uni is being really choosy, i guess the number of students would be reduced by at least half and the income?lolz.the lecturers can go home and tanam jagung ade.


Added on April 26, 2008, 12:42 pmpeople alwiz judge on what other people said but never see the comments from other side. if the person said they expect 30% pass, why not see it as a challenge?and strive for them to see that they're wrong. it's the judgemental characteristic of people that stop them from seeing things from the other side.

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post Apr 29 2008, 04:34 AM

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of course utar would raise up the requirement....imagine the standard of the student getting higher and higher...i heard that our juniors are much more scarier than us..imagine taht...
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post Apr 30 2008, 02:27 AM

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lolz...people just never get their facts right.
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post Apr 30 2008, 09:26 PM

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lolz lolz lolz.i dun wan to say much anymore.all that i can say is in my class.a few of them are from uec.and their result is quite good.and their maths?lolz.u cant even compare.
lolz lolz lolz. did u guys hear about how the stpm standard drop over the years?ever seen the marking scheme in the recent stpm paper?lolz. did u know that now even if u draw the double strand arrangement of DNA wrongly, u will still get full marks?lolz
lolz lolz lolz. did u guys hear about how NUS of recent years limit the number of stpm students from going in compared to increase in HK students? this is cuz of the drop in stpm standard.


Added on April 30, 2008, 9:29 pmi did have some frens who finish stpm early. remember there was this exam last time tat enable u to jump from standard 3 to standard 5? plus..there's also other tests that enable u to jump the secondary level.lolz

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post Apr 30 2008, 11:03 PM

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lolz lolz lolz..and to say the UEC is not be compared to stpm...y is that uec is recognised in so many countries as well.just now m'sia.
entering the uni is 1 matter...but like we all alwiz stressed out..coming out from the uni is another matter.i have frens who have mediocre result in either their stpm result who are much better in their cgpa in uni.
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post May 1 2008, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(kajikin @ May 1 2008, 11:02 PM)
yo .. akane i dun think you get the point ?? how u can compare malaysia with other country ? smart so how? do you think our education is base on your grade or age ?? lol malaysia is using the race percentage to enter university, so dont compare our educational with other country when we change the policy, then only try to compare la
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lolz lolz lolz. yeah.totally support Sun_rae...i thought we're talking about age,uec and studying previously?so, it's only natural that we include inside? i wouldn't want to say that m'sia is now practising 100% racial bias anymore esp in education. i got the offer to get into Matriculation, but i opt for form 6 instead. i could've got a good course in public uni in m'sia.but i din get and i opt for utar instead. my sis got the offer to study matri too.and she went in, now she's a pharmacy undergrad in UKM KL. lolz.u said smart so how?of course,being smart,eventually there alot of ways for u to get into uni or other unis around the world. being smart and having the etiquette is of course, the best thing cuz with that, it's no hard work to get lots of offer coming your way.


Added on May 1, 2008, 11:48 pmlolz. this is also due to m'sia education system that we are able to take advantage of it. there's so many loopholes that we can find and with proper ways, there's alwiz a way into everything. choices are available everywhere

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post May 2 2008, 02:32 AM

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lolz...y cant we go uni after secondary sch?like i said last time.if i remember correctly,there are tests that you can sit to prove to the education system that u're at tertiary level of education and doesn't need to undergo the normal system. there are people who went to those tests are still went in uni after their high sch.lolz.
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post May 3 2008, 12:10 AM

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lolz.how old can u be?i'm wondering.lolz
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post May 3 2008, 02:18 PM

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lolz.mine too.agreeing with what akane said,i too had a few choices in my hand. but i opted for UTAR instead. well,i've never regretted my decision.cuz in the end, utar has one of the best students inside and the lecturers as well.
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post May 17 2008, 03:03 PM

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lolz....to utar for foundation and the straight go into utar degree prog instead of going to form6?that's just sooo wrong.
i knew that i was going to end up in bioscience field when i was in form 5...but i still went form 6 and not matriculation..why?cuz it's damn tough.come and try form 6.i bet u're going to cry ur ass off...
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post Jun 18 2008, 08:43 PM

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lolz...4th week and ptptn is not here yet....hm...

 

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