swt, i tot provided by the rental?

haha...someone defending utar oh...

but one thing no matter what, everyone will agree.

the DEPARTMENT OF STUDENT AFFAIR IS JUST DARN TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!

Yes, i have been a committee for the department so long and they always promise you things and later they dont give it to you. Like my cert. They refuse to give me cert because i did all the work during my foundation studies. According to them, i am not a legal student in utar.

Best is, they dun tell u that ur not legal first, they say i am a part of this and that, it is my responsibility and etc.

Then when i finish all my servings for one year, they screw me up

Same thing happen when degree. Say one thing, do another thing, problem happen, say i didnt listen to what he say. When he change his mind he dun even bother informing us.

and worst is my singapore trip!!!!! they bllody hell canceled it without tellign me. I told them that if i go i need to do my passport. I asked the manager if confirmed going or not, if not waste passport RM300 la.

Then my worst nightmare came true, they canceled it without telling us. Until today when i go bug the manager for my cert, ONLY he say, canceled. If not then we all who go have to wait at the campus in the middle of the morning (5am) for nothing la?!

and our money.........gone.....................

Dun defend DSA, i got 1000000000000000 things i can PROVE and justify that the managers there are TERRIBLE.

Ask any of the student rep u know, they will agree......



and sometime the management is very bad in utar. The office staff may not earn much per month, but that does not give you the right to scold us when we come to the office. The face very black. Like we bunuh her family liddat.......

maybe they see u leng chai

l8r u ajak her go coffee she lagi smile

good luck

but the auntie also liddat one. My fren really try to kau her (test work or not) and it WORKED! Even exam slips no need to go collect one by one. Give him whole stack straight. Dun even need to see id or sign.

btw, the auntie look at least 49

better ask her got canceled or not

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Added on April 21, 2008, 10:32 pmId haresser? Thats ok. The PD block security always look at me when i wear skirt, keep on looking at me when i pass by the gate. I was so scared. Even my fren noticed it.

Thats why i do not dare to wear skirt in utar anymore

This post has been edited by kanzakicyn: Apr 21 2008, 10:32 PM

computer lab?!

haha, that gothic girl famous in fict edi, everyone know her

in fict better wear long pants, veri cold oh this place

sg long i know quite strict. I wonder why @_@

This post has been edited by kanzakicyn: Apr 23 2008, 07:58 PM

i think i screwed my accounts paper today T_T

despite saying bad things about utar in my blog, (i was damn damn pissed then....>_< apologies if offended u guys) After rereading it again, i noticed that i sould change a sentence. The last line actually, i shd not have said if u have money go other institution. Cuz one thing about utar is, some lecturers are quite good, of course i had WORST in my foundation program. Dice pronouce and SPELL as DIE. in my test anf final papers sumore -_-lll

anyhow, for us who cannot afford much, at least mca helped us by getting an institution for us. (i "assume" that was their initial plan la, minus the politic and the blackmail and teh rasuah la) At least when i come out i have a degree in hand.

i still stand on my 2 feet and say, DSA is TERRIBLE. The DSA MANAGER is INHUMAN.

Utar management, is not good

but overall....ok-LAH.....

well, there is one thing u need to know, dsa headquaters is in fict. And in fict, NOTHING happens, because of them. To do something is just TOOOOOOO hard... where as in sungai long, it can be done promptly. They dun have a specific guidelines to what can be used and what cannot be used. To them (DSA manager) when mood bad, apa pun kenot, if good mood, maybe can la.... U can see very big contradictions in their words. Once i recorded what they said and then when they break their promice, i played it back to them to hear, they deny and deny and then force me to erase the recording. so................ I got nothing to say lor. U can ask those from fict who tried to organize things, in pes or pam is easier cuz ur handling with officers and they have been given some power to agree on certain things.

ques : "when u roll 6 die, what is the probability that u will get a sum of 30?"

so....die or dice?

well, the utar bus is quite nice, compared to other busses. The air con is cool XDXD but a bit expensive lor for a short ound liddat.

dsa members dun evigilate. Then they up there and rot.

I even seen dsa member fill in job application in the office XDXD Many of the clearks run off. The one is still there is the managers only. Wish they die.

can someone tell me what is the recreation fee for? I am still puzzeled about it. Am i paying rm600 for air con and water cooler???????

omg!!!!!

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Added on May 14, 2008, 4:34 pmsetapak.b

This post has been edited by kanzakicyn: May 14 2008, 04:34 PM

to ensure a seat in AS, need at least a b in mathematic subject. Like stpm, need add maths and mod math to be at least b, if stpm, maths kua. Anyhow, just make sure ur maths sub and grade are good

if not, chances are u will surrender after 1 sem

cuz foundation they edi set a seat for u mah, tak kan when u get offer letter, they ask u go into foundation b4 the course, already offer u, u pass foundation then they say "sorry, u can get in bcuz ur not gd enough?" kena bomb lo them

but if ur from another course, transfer to AS, then maths must be good lo. Takkan u fail maths and still wanna join AS? die la.

i tak faham also

sometime they give too much info, brain also burst. Lagi tak paham

but then utar lecturer's spoken english....................seriouslly need help......

maybe ur talking about those in degree, i find that degree lecturers are far better in their spoken english, than foundation lecturers. The foundation lecturers, none of them have well spoken english except mr pek and mr wesley

not really, sg long dun have much place, too many student, too little space

kampar rent is cheep? my cousin say he pay thru his nose 4 rental?

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Added on May 27, 2008, 11:56 pmi agree. But the lecturer assistant is year 3 student
STRONGLY DISAGREE. Pronouncing age as ah-ge -_-lll its not their slang or what, they have problem in speaking good english, seriouslly. Maybe science lecturer don't, but art lecturer, YES. Specially mathematic lecturers.

How can u consider this right?

"when you out go work with outsiders, the TAUKE wun want good treatment you" -_-lll this is not slang, this is direct translation

and my foundation lecturer say : "allow me to continue in mandrine / cantonese, those non chinese, later u ask me again la"



DSA does not include foundation students as post graduate. So foundation are not included in the list when it comes to activities. heck, u dun even get a cert after u complete a club sentence, what more include u?

Agree, but the increase is shocking! 3K to 7K
but i pay rm600+ for facilities, dun u think they shd give us something?????



This post has been edited by kanzakicyn: Jun 1 2008, 09:35 PM

okay............ if thats the case then those who like AS but didnt do well in former exams shd be killed and never given a chance?

Like me and my other frens, i hate maths, i dunno what is AS, honestly, when my ucl ask me to take actuary, i tot it was something to do with marine. I kinda linked actuaries with aquamarine -_-ll yes i am stupid

then i did just okay in my foundations and got into AS, i found that this is not impossible, but hard. In fact, they let us take a chance and try, see if we can actually make it thru this course. Many who have not tried will regret after they take their other course. It is a place where ppl learn and find wht they actually like, tho its a bit late.

many cant even diffrenciate mathematic course, applied maths with computing, statistical studies and actuarial science. In fast, what we learn are of no difference, but what happen later is what differentciate us.

Since there are ppl who cant make up their mind, then let them try, they want to feel contented. Curiousity kills the cat.

Another thing is, this AS course with lenient requirement, give us chance to prove to ppl we can do it. Come on!!! Actuarial science is about maths, finance and management. How the heck are you going to test if a person is good in this field fully just by foundation, stpm and spm? There is only 3 mathematic subject in foundation, n 2 in spm (if ur in sub science or science). I dunno bout stpm, sorry. So....... what is i ACED my maths, FLUNKED my physics, FLUNKED my sejarah and so on? so my result will be bad, but i can be the world best actuary???

btw. 4.0 does not mean ur good, it means ur well rounded. Many, and i mean MANY ppl whom scored 4.0 in foundation are transfering course when they reach degree. IT is because they failed badly after the first 2 sem/year or they cant take the pressure and transfered course (p/s: my fren transferred with 3.9 cgpa in DEGREE 1st yr cuz dun like AS, she is 24 this year, she wanted to be in AS since young. Saved up money to join and left with dignity that at least she tried)

of course many things may say that utar is cheeting off us, but then again, if not because of utar, where will we be?

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Added on June 1, 2008, 9:36 pm i was talking bout RM600 facilities fee I paid to UTAR. Not rental..........

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Added on June 1, 2008, 9:40 pmur lucky u have mr wesley, when we have mr pek ,things turned out good too. But when u have no one who can help u, ur dead. They dun care if u have a bad lecturer, we complained but they give us all the conditiona dn terms we must do in order to APPEAL to change lecturer. I know, ur in foundation in science, mr wesley is very efficient.

I am from foundation in arts, the lecturer are really really bad. Try this. On first week, 200 ppl entered the lecture hall, 2nd week, 50 entered the lecture hall, 3rd week, only 10 left... and they slept in the class and help other student to sign attendance.

not student fault, cuz not everyone will be probamatic student.

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Added on June 1, 2008, 9:47 pmthe ping pong table? the very chan ping pong table??? ........

What does KTAR have to do with us PD block?????

hold on, activities in utar are being paid by student? damn! 2mrw i will go up to finance department AND dsa to make them clear this us. EVERY SINGLE ACTIVITIES are NOT subsidised by utar, the committee have to use their OWN money and HUNT FOR SPONSORSHIP! DSA made MANY MANY project crumble due to insufficient fund. Even after months and months or preparation. And now thay say we are paying for DSA?! hell no.....i am gonna call bank and cancle my cheque 2mrw and i am NOT paying those DSA b**tards and their lies

library n computer lab : okay........... acceptable.....

development : they have made pd block room smaller and there is not enough place 2 study since they move most of the tables and chairs to kampar.......

toilet repair : acceptable

air con service : fine............tho always rosak....

painting : since when?

This post has been edited by kanzakicyn: Jun 1 2008, 09:48 PM

Not really, at least now DSA will not be able to tipu me off my money anymore. After today wahahahahaha!