for that budget, u can get up to year 2002 perdana.
maintenance cost is normal just like any other car.
but to do major servicing will cost a bit more (bcoz more pistons and v configuration).
spare part are plenty. new, ori, taiwan, 2nd hand, kedai potong.. all got.
prices are reasonable. even cheaper than daihatsu, toyota, honda spares..

roadtax is around rm390 for 2.0 car (cant remember exact figure).
insurance is up to u la. how much u value the car and how many extra insurance item u add.

no matter a standard perdana, or modded (v6twinturbo or evo or rvr)
the prices will hover aorund the same figure (car price is based on manufacturing year right?..)

standard v6 can climb cameron no problem. genting will be just enough power. (for me la..)
for ease of mind, get a manual v6. or even better, get a manual turbo... hehe...

This post has been edited by NeuroOne: Jun 16 2010, 11:26 PM

NeuroOne,

do you know any reliable workshop that i can bring my car for a 2nd opinion....yg would not rip me off just bcoz i'm a woman ? I'm staying in Bangi but working in KLCC...so mana2 pun blh within this vicinity. Really desperate nih

This post has been edited by Zetty24: Jun 17 2010, 10:11 AM

I've had the priviledge to own both Waja and Perdana V6 and below is my personal opinion:-

- Waja's technology is newer: digital odo, integrated 3rd brake lights, projector headlamp, easier booth access (wider and lower), split fold rear seats, 12V power supply (separate from the cig lighter), beeping "car key still in ignition" reminder, beesting antenna, steering mounted radio controls, 6 speaker ICE, scissor frame power window module, larger ATF sump (~ 4.5 ltrs), retractable roof mounted hand rails, car key with integrated alarm remote

- Waja's driving characteristics are closer to continental feeling (stiff ride but not harsh), high driving position, high shoulder line, curved side mirror (driver's side) to reduce blindspot, small diameter steering wheel, left side lights control stalk

- Waja's parts are particularly weak and do not stand well against normal usage: power window module, door handles, steering wheel rim plastics, door lock mechanism, fuel lines, pulleys, radiator, alternator

- Waja's known and popular issues: power window, door handles, alternator, fuel pump

- Perdana's quality is much better: softer interior, better grade plastics and switchgears, longer lasting parts (power windows still good after 8 yrs), less sound from interior parts, smaller panel gaps (mine at least)

- Perdana's driving characteristic is more towards comfort and refinement: smooth and relaxed (at high speed) V6 engine, leather interior, all round multi-link suspension (F1 technology lol), low drag coefficient 0.26 (still one of the lowest in it's class by today's standard) resulting in low wind noise/resistance at high speed, cruise control, better noise insulations

- Perdana's known and popular issues: AT overheating, ABS system


Other Waja/Perdana owners can add/share on the above as well...

PERDANA ALL THE WAY....i within ur budget also,i choose perdana

thnx sifus for the detailed explaination......that what i really need to know

between the these two....which is more comfortable to ferry passengers e.g: 3 normal adult, at the back for long journey....coz this car will be used as balik kampung car also....hope can give opinion

thnx again

i owned a micev-md, may i know how can i check my md is functioning?

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Added on June 17, 2010, 12:30 pmi owned a micev-md, may i know how can i check my md is functioning?

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Added on June 17, 2010, 12:49 pmperdana will have more room size

This post has been edited by KAWAII GIFT: Jun 17 2010, 12:49 PM

for me, the answer is perdana.
i dont own a waja, but have driven waja (and being driven in it) many times before.
long distance woud be perdana hands down with the comfort and spaciousness.
fyi, mitsubishi created the v6 galant/eterna/emeraude for long distance cruising..

but for the perdana seats, i think the first model v6 (before enhanced version) has the best seat.
i feel that the v6 enhanced seats are a bit keras than the first model v6.

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Added on June 17, 2010, 1:25 pmu can try EON appointed service centre (company name Trisilco) in puchong. near the indian temple.
or in pandan indah, normal workshop not Proton or EON, a fren's workshop actually (well, i repaired my car there and became frens with the owner).
i'll PM u the phone no..

This post has been edited by NeuroOne: Jun 17 2010, 01:27 PM

is it? then i must take extra good care of my seats...

that's my opinion la. how my butt feels.. hehe..

yes, i agree it is comfortable...i sleep in the car for 2 hrs every morning and never get backaches...

well, ive never owned any of those, but ive spent a lot of time wit both cars as both r owned by my family..

yes, it is true that the waja is a more modern car, it is afterall designed later than the perdana.. it is one class lower than the perdana, which makes it smaller.. but the space inside is enough 4 a family of 5, n if u go 4 the premium version, it comes wit dual air bags n abs.. but it is infamous 4 its power window failure n fragile door handles.. n the interior is of quite a low grade.. hard plastics everywhere n u can see the build quality is crap as well.. u can see huge gaps in the fitments n fittings, n the knobs n switches feel obviously cheap.. but u cant deny the drivetrain.. the earlier models comes wit a 1.6 mitsu engine that is quite robust, as wit the gearbox, both auto n manual.. so if u take care of the engine well, im confident it will continue running well, even when all the stuff around it starts fallin off.. comfort n handling is gud enough.. long journeys is no sweat 4 the waja, n handling is good 4 wats supposed 2 be a boring family saloon.. n u can get a good one well within ur budget..

as 4 the perdana, it is one of my favorite malaysian car.. i love the way it looks, (the alfa style as well as the 1st v6 version), i love the way it drives, n i love the pricetag too.. u can get a really good one 4 under 50k these days.. the v6 engine is robust, performance is adequate 4 a 2.0L v6 unit, but it is infamous 4 its gearbox prob.. the mitsu supplied 4 speed auto is quite an obsolete unit, n prone 2 failure especially after 150k kms on the clock.. lots owners out there solved this prob by converting it 2 a manual, but 2 me, a big comfy car like these is more suited wit an auto wit its laid back relaxed drivin style.. the v6 is robust, it is a mitsu engine afterall, n i love the way it sounds too.. but dont 4get, maintenance is gonna be higher than the waja, it being a v6 n all.. but take care of it right, im sure it'll serve u well.. i have 2 say, long journeys is this car's forte.. n thanx 2 some lotus magic, it handles quite well 4 a big saloon.. space wise, eventhough its big from the exterior, from my pov, i feel that its only slightly bigger than the waja.. but it has a better interior no doubt.. soft plastics n the switches r of better quality than the waja.. dont misunderstand me, its no audi, n when i say its better, its only slightly better than the waja.. the indicator stalks 4 example, feels really cheap.. but the seats r fabulous.. its very comfortable, n they hug u in the right places.. the leather interior is nice as well..

so there u have it, my opinion on waja vs perdana..

[quote=knight_kriss,Jun 17 2010, 12:28 PM]thnx sifus for the detailed explaination......that what i really need to know

between the these two....which is more comfortable to ferry passengers e.g: 3 normal adult, at the back for long journey....coz this car will be used as balik kampung car also....hope can give opinion

thnx again

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I owned both Waja and Perdana. In terms of comfort for backseat passengers.....Perdana wins hands down! Nothing like it . That's why i'm contemplating to let go of my Perdana or not . Not sure tht i can find a luxury and comfortable ride with the same price.

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Added on June 17, 2010, 1:25 pm
u can try EON appointed service centre (company name Trisilco) in puchong. near the indian temple.
or in pandan indah, normal workshop not Proton or EON, a fren's workshop actually (well, i repaired my car there and became frens with the owner).
i'll PM u the phone no..

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Thanks! Will try to go there this Saturday .
Also, is it advisable to change from Auto to Manual GB for Perdana? How can i get the parts?

This post has been edited by Zetty24: Jun 17 2010, 05:19 PM

both car has their own pros and cons...
i owned a waja which is my 2nd ride and was modded with mix and match engine parts. spend quite a lot on enhancement; better suspension setup / pu bushing all round / noise insulation material and changed from plastic to metal power windows bracket all round.
on many occasion, used to swap that car with friend's perdana which was modded with 6a12tt(due to stock engine, esp. the gearbox always giving a problem even after atf cooler installed).
for some reason, i still prefer waja for it's agility. handling wise, waja is a lil' ahead in sharp corner.
to me, it's down to individual preference and most of all, driving style!
without modification, older waja with mitsubishi engine win hands down in term of engine / gearbox reliability and maintenance.
else, perdana for long journey comfort and maybe; looks.

zetty.. if u wanna permanently solve the gearbox prob 4 the perdana, yes, it is advisable 2 convert 2 a manual.. most feedbacks that ive heard from owners who have done it said that it really unleashes more performance from the v6.. juz shows u how much of a power sucker the standard autobox is in the perdana..

thnx u bro for ur in depth comparison between these two car.......man it really gimme a real dilemma....hehehe

may i know the fuel consumption of these two car??is it really perdana are more fuel guzzler than waja??is it really that bad??coz usually i drive around 110-120 only...but in desperate time i'll speed more than that, that's why i need better car than my current wira 1.3......

thinking to find stock perdana v6 that already converted to manual gearbox.....or should i go for evo/tt converted perdana instead?? or just normal waja??

which is more practical for daily life??

This post has been edited by knight_kriss: Jun 17 2010, 10:27 PM

yes. better change to manual, if u dont mind changing gears. hehe..
and u can feel the true power of the egine with manual gb.
parts can be found in kedai potong.
its not hard to find manual box for perdana v6, but the other parts that's rare(pedal, cable, lever, clutch pump, mounting, etc)
but if u contact the no (pandan indah workshop) they should be able to find those stuff...

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Added on June 17, 2010, 11:07 pmnow u cannot compare the fuel consumption of perdana and waja.
they are different class.
like u compare altis with camry.
and perdana is not a fuel guzzler la.
compare with other 2.0 car, about the same consumption.

my auto v6 with full tank (64L) can get around 700km hiway or 480km town drive.
get a manual and u can get more...
top speed i can go 220kmh. manual at least the same speed and gets it faster..
top speed stability is surely perdana win la.
cornering is also good, with the multilink suspension front and rear.
for me, hi speed cornering is very good, only slow and sharp cornering a little slow as perdana heavier than waja.
but still, if ur car is standard (standard suspension, tall thin tyres) sure goyang la..

ps: u will regret getting a waja compare to perdana...

This post has been edited by NeuroOne: Jun 17 2010, 11:07 PM

Thanks for the insight Neuro. Been wanting to do some modification to my Perdana...but tak tau nk pegi mane (hey! it rhymes!).


I have to agree with Neuro. Both iWaja and Perdana is totally on a different class. I travel about ><60km daily...from Bangi to KLCC....on a full tank, i would normally have to fill it up again after 6-7days.

This post has been edited by Zetty24: Jun 18 2010, 09:53 AM

kenot tahan ur poison bro.....huhu

it is true perdana v6 loves to "makan minyak hitam" and need to top up it every week???

about the ABS problem, if it happen, what is the effect, can it be dangerous???

This post has been edited by knight_kriss: Jun 19 2010, 01:17 AM

all the sifu here, do anyone know whether it is possible to change the analogue millage meter to digital?

what digital meter u got?

as i know, there are no digital meter for perdana/eterna/emeraude/galant.
but u can get digital meter for racing cars (universal one that can be programmed).
but that is super expensive...