i wouldnt recommend u 2 take a perdana, becoz 4 that kinda budget, u'll only be able 2 get a really old model..

hi all

need some opinion here

i'm hunting for 2nd car with my budget around 25k-35k...so my choice is between waja and perdana....

i'm already aiming for perdana, but many people said go for waja coz perdana is a fuel guzzler and high maintenance....so to clear all my dilemma and confusion, i would like to know the risk and benefit owning a perdana from the owner himself.

so is it true:

perdana is a fuel guzzler?

how much maintenance cost of a perdana, service, sparepart and also yearly expenses such as roadtax and insurance?

can perdana going uphill frequently, as i'm living in cameron highlands and usually outstation to kuantan every week?

should i go for standard perdana or modded one, like TT or evo engine?

hope u all can enlighten me...thnx very much

I've had the priviledge to own both Waja and Perdana V6 and below is my personal opinion:-

- Waja's technology is newer: digital odo, integrated 3rd brake lights, projector headlamp, easier booth access (wider and lower), split fold rear seats, 12V power supply (separate from the cig lighter), beeping "car key still in ignition" reminder, beesting antenna, steering mounted radio controls, 6 speaker ICE, scissor frame power window module, larger ATF sump (~ 4.5 ltrs), retractable roof mounted hand rails, car key with integrated alarm remote

- Waja's driving characteristics are closer to continental feeling (stiff ride but not harsh), high driving position, high shoulder line, curved side mirror (driver's side) to reduce blindspot, small diameter steering wheel, left side lights control stalk

- Waja's parts are particularly weak and do not stand well against normal usage: power window module, door handles, steering wheel rim plastics, door lock mechanism, fuel lines, pulleys, radiator, alternator

- Waja's known and popular issues: power window, door handles, alternator, fuel pump

- Perdana's quality is much better: softer interior, better grade plastics and switchgears, longer lasting parts (power windows still good after 8 yrs), less sound from interior parts, smaller panel gaps (mine at least)

- Perdana's driving characteristic is more towards comfort and refinement: smooth and relaxed (at high speed) V6 engine, leather interior, all round multi-link suspension (F1 technology lol), low drag coefficient 0.26 (still one of the lowest in it's class by today's standard) resulting in low wind noise/resistance at high speed, cruise control, better noise insulations

- Perdana's known and popular issues: AT overheating, ABS system
Other Waja/Perdana owners can add/share on the above as well...

for that budget, u can get up to year 2002 perdana.
maintenance cost is normal just like any other car.
but to do major servicing will cost a bit more (bcoz more pistons and v configuration).
spare part are plenty. new, ori, taiwan, 2nd hand, kedai potong.. all got.
prices are reasonable. even cheaper than daihatsu, toyota, honda spares..

roadtax is around rm390 for 2.0 car (cant remember exact figure).
insurance is up to u la. how much u value the car and how many extra insurance item u add.

no matter a standard perdana, or modded (v6twinturbo or evo or rvr)
the prices will hover aorund the same figure (car price is based on manufacturing year right?..)

standard v6 can climb cameron no problem. genting will be just enough power. (for me la..)
for ease of mind, get a manual v6. or even better, get a manual turbo... hehe...

well, ive never owned any of those, but ive spent a lot of time wit both cars as both r owned by my family..

yes, it is true that the waja is a more modern car, it is afterall designed later than the perdana.. it is one class lower than the perdana, which makes it smaller.. but the space inside is enough 4 a family of 5, n if u go 4 the premium version, it comes wit dual air bags n abs.. but it is infamous 4 its power window failure n fragile door handles.. n the interior is of quite a low grade.. hard plastics everywhere n u can see the build quality is crap as well.. u can see huge gaps in the fitments n fittings, n the knobs n switches feel obviously cheap.. but u cant deny the drivetrain.. the earlier models comes wit a 1.6 mitsu engine that is quite robust, as wit the gearbox, both auto n manual.. so if u take care of the engine well, im confident it will continue running well, even when all the stuff around it starts fallin off.. comfort n handling is gud enough.. long journeys is no sweat 4 the waja, n handling is good 4 wats supposed 2 be a boring family saloon.. n u can get a good one well within ur budget..

as 4 the perdana, it is one of my favorite malaysian car.. i love the way it looks, (the alfa style as well as the 1st v6 version), i love the way it drives, n i love the pricetag too.. u can get a really good one 4 under 50k these days.. the v6 engine is robust, performance is adequate 4 a 2.0L v6 unit, but it is infamous 4 its gearbox prob.. the mitsu supplied 4 speed auto is quite an obsolete unit, n prone 2 failure especially after 150k kms on the clock.. lots owners out there solved this prob by converting it 2 a manual, but 2 me, a big comfy car like these is more suited wit an auto wit its laid back relaxed drivin style.. the v6 is robust, it is a mitsu engine afterall, n i love the way it sounds too.. but dont 4get, maintenance is gonna be higher than the waja, it being a v6 n all.. but take care of it right, im sure it'll serve u well.. i have 2 say, long journeys is this car's forte.. n thanx 2 some lotus magic, it handles quite well 4 a big saloon.. space wise, eventhough its big from the exterior, from my pov, i feel that its only slightly bigger than the waja.. but it has a better interior no doubt.. soft plastics n the switches r of better quality than the waja.. dont misunderstand me, its no audi, n when i say its better, its only slightly better than the waja.. the indicator stalks 4 example, feels really cheap.. but the seats r fabulous.. its very comfortable, n they hug u in the right places.. the leather interior is nice as well..

so there u have it, my opinion on waja vs perdana..

both car has their own pros and cons...
i owned a waja which is my 2nd ride and was modded with mix and match engine parts. spend quite a lot on enhancement; better suspension setup / pu bushing all round / noise insulation material and changed from plastic to metal power windows bracket all round.
on many occasion, used to swap that car with friend's perdana which was modded with 6a12tt(due to stock engine, esp. the gearbox always giving a problem even after atf cooler installed).
for some reason, i still prefer waja for it's agility. handling wise, waja is a lil' ahead in sharp corner.
to me, it's down to individual preference and most of all, driving style! 
without modification, older waja with mitsubishi engine win hands down in term of engine / gearbox reliability and maintenance.
else, perdana for long journey comfort and maybe; looks.

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Added on June 17, 2010, 11:07 pm
now u cannot compare the fuel consumption of perdana and waja.
they are different class.
like u compare altis with camry.
and perdana is not a fuel guzzler la.
compare with other 2.0 car, about the same consumption.

my auto v6 with full tank (64L) can get around 700km hiway or 480km town drive.
get a manual and u can get more...
top speed i can go 220kmh. manual at least the same speed and gets it faster..
top speed stability is surely perdana win la.
cornering is also good, with the multilink suspension front and rear.
for me, hi speed cornering is very good, only slow and sharp cornering a little slow as perdana heavier than waja.
but still, if ur car is standard (standard suspension, tall thin tyres) sure goyang la..

ps: u will regret getting a waja compare to perdana...

Oh, so cannot integrate into the dash meter 1 lo? must got something extra?

is it? no such thing happen to my 8 yrs old V6. The engine holds 5 ltrs of engine oil, but I only use 4 ltrs (dipstick showing slightly above the mid level of min and max) and check it weekly.

for my car, the ABS warning light is the only annoying problem. When it lights up, there's no ABS and the car brakes like normal car without ABS.

guys, i need some advise on perdana exhaust system. just converted my perdana's engine to RVR turbo with auto tranny... what's the best diameter size for the exhaust piping and should i use s-flow muffler or straight flow muffler?? and also what's the best inlet diameter size for the muffler?

thanks a lot.. hopefully sifus here who have the experience with perdana turbo auto can share some infos...

i cant give review about the performance and the FC for the time being because my car is still in the workshop... hopefully it'll be ok.. hehehe.

got some headache regarding the exhaust setup.. hehehe;. wrong setup FC teruk nanti...

guys, i'm looking for a used Pv6 and will prefer >'04 manual..... anyone know where is the best place to find one? i'm not familiar with the used car industry....

good good..
better get manual than auto.. hehe..
even i use auto.. hehe..

i bought a 1996 perdana Sei last year for 22k, this year price 1996 perdana's price surely drop 18-19k maybe...

IMO, if u buy stock 1996 sei auto and convert it to evo III + labour charge, 3" piping, change to 5 lugs, branded 5 lugs rims, sunroof mabe, leather seats, alphadana bodyparts... you'll definitely will spent more than 31k... for me that 31k evo III perdana is worth it..

last time i mudah i saw an adv of perdana with evo III selling at 27k...  i thnk sold oredy laa..

knight kriss, that 31k value is okay, but if that car have many xtras in it, i.e sound system, sport rims, sunroof, nice color, seats, gauge, fmic, banana, wastegate, good adjustable suspension.... it'll be worth it bro..

my perdana sei, i think i have to fork out about 7k for a complete RVR auto transplant.. complete with fmic, bov, boost gauge, exh piping, muffler.. not including adjustable suspension.. hahaha... what a waste.. if i had known this, i'll buy perdana TT manual last year instead

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Added on July 1, 2010, 10:57 amhttp://www.mudah.my/Proton+perdana-6473980.htm

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damn... evo III inside man...