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post Feb 20 2008, 12:51 AM, updated 15y ago

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Dear LYN fellows!

Welcome back to Lampe Berger & Estebel Issues V3

1st of all,I would like to hail to our V1 threadstarter Ultimat3 for starting an interesting topic which set a awareness to all people here esp. in LYN forum.

And to continue our Spirit,which I had come out with V2 as well.....

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/323267

Here,we will continue to expose the corruption and lies that is Steven Yeam Network (SYN) Digital Crown Holdings Limited (DCHL) and RZ corporation , as well as serve as a platform for those who has been victimize and would like to seek for help or advice.

From the V1 & V2 thread,we know that many ppl has been CON and victimize esp teenagers which are students,school leavers,fresh grad,job seekers and etc.Those victim had already lost their money in this Scam business.Their motive/purpose is too CON ppls money and they dun care who you are!

Be aware before is too late! Dun let them make you as their prey!

DCHL and SYN ppl are also welcome to comment if you think that your so called "business" is not a scam, we also would like to hear a voice from your side to show us that your so called "business" is as ethical and legitimate as a MLM.We will always welcome you to this thread anytime,anywhere.


Remember,once a SCAMMER,forever is a SCAMMER!


We also have a few blogs as our support for our info.Please Log on to:

http://antilampeberger.blogspot.com

http://lampebergerhelp.blogspot.com

http://lampebergertruth.blogspot.com


Our WAR against SCAM continues,we will fight with them until they LOST from our sight!

UPDATE: This below video shows how DCHL/SYN/LB ppl CONvinced or look for victim! Is a "acting" only,but it shows their tactic in CONvincing!

www.rthk.org.hk/asx/rthk/tv/police_magazine/20060527.asx


Below here is from Hong Kong TVB Video which proof LB products is harmful and is a lie from LB members that claims can purify the air!

ifiles.tvb.com/ifiles/20001207/f_theme/voices/20001207_2052_01_56k.asx


List of DCHL/SYN/ Lampe Berger offices in Malaysia,don't let those people to bring u to these places as below:

Kuala Lumpur


Level 1, Menara HLA, No.3 Jalan Kia Peng, 50450 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

TEL : 603 2162 9068
FAX : 603 2162 9193
Email: csd@dchl.com.my


Kota Kinabalu

Lot 3-0, Ground Floor, Lorong Lintas Plaza 4, Lintas Plaza, Jalan Lintas, 88300 Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia.

TEL : 60 088 317 089
FAX : 60 088 317 093


Penang

Level 2, Unit 1-2-11 & 1-2-12, Krystal Point Corporate Park II, No.1, Lebuh Bukit Kecil 6, 11900 Bayan Lepas, Penang, Malaysia.

TEL : 604 642 2068
FAX : 604 641 5193


Johor Bahru

Suite 10.2, Level 10, Menara Pelangi, Jalan Kuning 80400 Johor Bahru, Johor, Malaysia.

TEL : 607 335 9068
FAX : 607 333 6193


Kuching

Lot 9936 (Sublot 5B), Ground Floor, Queen's Court, Block E, Jalan Wan Alwi, 93350 Kuching, Sarawak.

TEL : 082 571 831
FAX : 082 570 981


UPDATE news from 27th Nov 2009,SYN has stop/quit their LB business already.Now the form a new MLM call ONE COMMUNITY which sells health products, do not fall into the same prey!

This post has been edited by b3rnard7: Nov 27 2009, 10:53 AM
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post Feb 20 2008, 12:58 AM

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wow, V3..Lampa as evil as BN
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post Feb 20 2008, 01:17 AM

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i hate lampachiau

their gathering and meetings are disrupting my smooth driving home from vsource in menara hla.
cant they do something more constructive like count teh ninjas?
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Come in to support!
But no story to tell edi...my friends all aware of LB...
they now try to con malays...
hopefully the govt will do something about it
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post Feb 20 2008, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(samantha88 @ Feb 20 2008, 01:56 AM)
Come in to support!
But no story to tell edi...my friends all aware of LB...
they now try to con malays...
hopefully the govt will do something about it
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As long as they still exist,this thread is NEVER DIE!

Even if 1 day DCHL/SYN is been annouced to close down,we will start a new thread called

RIP Lampe Berger
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post Feb 20 2008, 09:10 PM

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post Feb 20 2008, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(samantha88 @ Feb 20 2008, 01:56 AM)
Come in to support!
But no story to tell edi...my friends all aware of LB...
they now try to con malays...
hopefully the govt will do something about it
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Malay so easy kena meh?
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 20 2008, 09:25 PM)
Malay so easy kena meh?
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easy to wash brain i would said...but if wanted to con people, they doesn't care you are Malay, Indian or Chinese..as long as you have the "easy money mentality", they will come and brain wash those whistling.gif
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there is a huge market in the malay community, last yr i went to jb and saw their 'meetings'. majority are malays and who doesnt wan easy money? jus ask someone to go out n drink n then tell them of the 'business plan'. it's like manager, jus go for meetings....but this manager, poket kosong. my fren who is a member and he asked another sceptical fren of mine to go for the meeting and then after tat, went to klcc to have lunch. where did they go? food court! n somemore AA........if so damn rich, y cant even treat my fren at foodcourt?

so it is jus the outside la......it's easy to join but how many can be the 'winner'? NONE....u don jus lose ur money but ur frens, pride and trust. so think before joining
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some of my fren also join it already... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Feb 20 2008, 09:45 PM)
some of my fren also join it already...  shakehead.gif
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then you can get some stories from them and share it here...

or ask them join LYN... and visit this thread... rclxms.gif
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yeah, i was thinking bout that, but later my fren say i wanna kacau his business.. dry.gif
gonna wait a month or two
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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Feb 20 2008, 10:52 PM)
yeah, i was thinking bout that, but later my fren say i wanna kacau his business..  dry.gif
gonna wait a month or two
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Lampa ppl is always Lampa attitude....they will nvr listen to other ppl advise...they only listen to their GOD (Steven Yeam)
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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ Feb 21 2008, 12:07 AM)
Lampa ppl is always Lampa attitude....they will nvr listen to other ppl advise...they only listen to their GOD (Steven Yeam)
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laugh.gif thats true,
my housemate who join LB always said in 1-3 month could buy a car edy
i just show my blink.gif face. wait abit longer and we'll see rclxms.gif

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WHOA! I'm impressed!!

Like Seriously!

V3 Already! My gosh!

Please keep this awareness going on.. smile.gif
I shall stay aside and enjoy my modest income and living.

b3rnard7, THANKS A BUNCH for keeping this "Lampe Berger & Estebel Issues" alive.

I shall drop by from time to time.
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always remember, there is no easy money. u have to earn it
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QUOTE(otyew @ Feb 21 2008, 10:07 AM)
always remember, there is no easy money. u have to earn it
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well its never easy to work in this industry, you have to persuade ppl to to join you and go in the trade...maklumla, orang malaysia, when its comes to money its damm hard. Especially LB, RM2500 the most expensive out there.

I am doing surveying of MLM companies for my project. Been to so many talks, LB ppl talk is powerful, the best out there. I wouldn;t say its a fraud i would say its a very hard work. My friend succeed in it, and im still being pull by him everyday. He got his Rx-8 in 1 year, but really its all out for him, he work his arse off. So far the succeed rate is not much, not all ppl can take rejection properly.

LB = very very hard work, kinda good money.
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QUOTE(Haihzz @ Feb 21 2008, 10:17 AM)
well its never easy to work in this industry, you have to persuade ppl to to join you and go in the trade...maklumla, orang malaysia, when its comes to money its damm hard. Especially LB, RM2500 the most expensive out there.

I am doing surveying of MLM companies for my project. Been to so many talks, LB ppl talk is powerful, the best out there. I wouldn;t say its a fraud i would say its a very hard work. My friend succeed in it, and im still being pull by him everyday. He got his Rx-8 in 1 year, but really its all out for him, he work his arse off. So far the succeed rate is not much, not all ppl can take rejection properly.

LB = very very hard work, kinda good money.
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You survey? I used to analyze MLM companies' marketing plan.
Among so many marketing plans, LB is the worst.
From there, I knew this marketing plan won't work for long and its only taking advantage from others.

You know what is business or not? Business is either sell product or sell your service.
This LB sell what? All the income comes from downline membership with purchasing the dangerous perfume products.
Obviously it won't work for long. That's why Taiwan or HK already banned this company.

One of my good friend has joined LB due to his bro.
His bro is a top student in UK. After graduated not long, he joined LB and seems like very successful.
He even persuade his whole family joined LB. Changed new car and the house full of perfume.
My friend told me his bro earning a lot money and enjoying his life or something sounds like very proud.
In the end the whole family quitted already. His family now is facing financial problem.
I lost this friend Just because I knew the marketing plan won't work, I rejected him to join LB.
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QUOTE(koyuuken @ Feb 21 2008, 10:55 AM)
You survey? I used to analyze MLM companies' marketing plan.
Among so many marketing plans, LB is the worst.
From there, I knew this marketing plan won't work for long and its only taking advantage from others.

You know what is business or not? Business is either sell product or sell your service.
This LB sell what? All the income comes from downline membership with purchasing the dangerous perfume products.
Obviously it won't work for long. That's why Taiwan or HK already banned this company.

One of my good friend has joined LB due to his bro.
His bro is a top student in UK. After graduated not long, he joined LB and seems like very successful.
He even persuade his whole family joined LB. Changed new car and the house full of perfume.
My friend told me his bro earning a lot money and enjoying his life or something sounds like very proud.
In the end the whole family quitted already. His family now is facing financial problem.
I lost this friend Just because I knew the marketing plan won't work, I rejected him to join LB.
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Nope thier not thier plan i mean thier talk(darn convincing). you misunderstood. Not trying to argue, i don't anti MLMers, respect them as the matter effect, thier face are well made. I don;t mind being friends with them, cause i think there is nothing wrong with the MLM or what ever they believe. I help buy some products also, what to do.."eng siew" friends that all. They are not evil people, just that some one face are well made and more "tahan lasak" then others.If they succeed good for them.

I myself prefer, instant cash for e.g. i work then get paid when done. Not earning a whole lot though. But enough to see myself off everyday without stress.
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chasing soap opera here....where tat rabu from V2 !!!!! mad.gif
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QUOTE(Haihzz @ Feb 21 2008, 10:17 AM)
well its never easy to work in this industry, you have to persuade ppl to to join you and go in the trade...maklumla, orang malaysia, when its comes to money its damm hard. Especially LB, RM2500 the most expensive out there.

I am doing surveying of MLM companies for my project. Been to so many talks, LB ppl talk is powerful, the best out there. I wouldn;t say its a fraud i would say its a very hard work. My friend succeed in it, and im still being pull by him everyday. He got his Rx-8 in 1 year, but really its all out for him, he work his arse off. So far the succeed rate is not much, not all ppl can take rejection properly.

LB = very very hard work, kinda good money.
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Since u do a survey of MLM,did your survey include how many ppl kena CON or Cheated by this Lampa Lampe Berger?

Do u know ur fren who succeed already CON how many waterfish in orderto get his RX-8?

QUOTE(destiny6 @ Feb 21 2008, 04:27 PM)
chasing soap opera here....where tat rabu from V2 !!!!!  mad.gif
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I'm expecting him in our new thread....Im always welcome him with my open arms biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ Feb 21 2008, 06:25 PM)
Since u do a survey of MLM,did your survey include how many ppl kena CON or Cheated by this Lampa Lampe Berger?

Do u know ur fren who succeed already CON how many waterfish in orderto get his RX-8?

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I don't know, and i can't give a damm about it. Can't help it if others want to join him. I choose to stay away from it. Product wise its expensive and overrated.
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but why got some ppl really can earn lots ? tats one of my fren lulx
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QUOTE(L0st @ Feb 21 2008, 11:36 PM)
but why got some ppl really can earn lots ? tats one of my fren lulx
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"Credit cards chain reaction" perhaps? Using one card to pay for another...and repeated. Or use card to pay for everything, when come to card payment, just pay the interest? It might work within short term....but long term, will end up in court case.
My friend used to work in credit card centre...he said some youngster as young as 20 years old were indebt of 100K.

Need some experts here to give us a calculation on how many waterfish$ one must get in order to pay the monthly instalment of a Ferrari(how to spell huh?)...or whatever those LB monkey driving.

It sometimes really amazed me as successful uncles and aunties around me, which have plenty real properties in hand, capable of sending their children to overseas, yet, just driving a modest honda or toyota. But those LB monkey, out of nowhere, is flashing around in a bloody red sport car. Isn't it a miracle? Can't believe how they manage to do it.

The most unbelievable part is, those stupid school leavers believe in the scheme by just assuming one's wealth with the car he's driving. But on the other hand, the monkey was juz living in a low cost flat or cheap apartment. Greed causes the brain to be malfunctioned. shakehead.gif
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okay forget about lampu burger...how about other MLM that is out there like sunshine empire?
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my fren is pushing me to this scam LB stuff.FYI, they open a new office branch near to F&N factory its a new building actually they said they have other branch in Johore,Malacca N Sabah(if not mistaken).Seriously i went there, they brain wash me during the brainstorming and they even urge me to give them 2500(instant)..i was like WTF?!! .Went there cause been trick by my own frend(arksole ).He said he want me to make money more just like him.I told him that is a big scam.He just wont listen..Dang !!!.. wat should i do to help my frend..pls help me,save my frend!!
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QUOTE(ezselena @ Feb 22 2008, 04:02 AM)
my fren is pushing me to this scam LB stuff.FYI, they open a new office branch near to F&N factory its a new building actually they said they have other branch in Johore,Malacca N Sabah(if not mistaken).Seriously i went there, they brain wash me during the brainstorming and they even urge me to give them 2500(instant)..i was like WTF?!! .Went there cause been trick by my own frend(arksole ).He said he want me to make money more just like him.I told him that is a big scam.He just wont listen..Dang !!!.. wat should i do to help my frend..pls help me,save my frend!!
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i'm amazed u still take him as a friend......well let em learn the hard way, avoid him from now on and never answer his call and reply smses icon_rolleyes.gif
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eh..anybody know that who want to join LB need to pay rm 36000 ??

my housemate spend rm 36000...his target is govt people who got saving in EPF...

gila la..rm 36000 !! gila !! madness !!
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QUOTE(nicknuck @ Feb 22 2008, 01:05 PM)
eh..anybody know that who want to join LB need to pay rm 36000 ??

my housemate spend rm 36000...his target is govt people who got saving in EPF...

gila la..rm 36000 !! gila !! madness !!
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100% scam... icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(ezselena @ Feb 22 2008, 04:02 AM)
my fren is pushing me to this scam LB stuff.FYI, they open a new office branch near to F&N factory its a new building actually they said they have other branch in Johore,Malacca N Sabah(if not mistaken).Seriously i went there, they brain wash me during the brainstorming and they even urge me to give them 2500(instant)..i was like WTF?!! .Went there cause been trick by my own frend(arksole ).He said he want me to make money more just like him.I told him that is a big scam.He just wont listen..Dang !!!.. wat should i do to help my frend..pls help me,save my frend!!
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Well,....ur fren kena "poison" already! There is no way to save him.Even u offer vaccine to him but he refuse to take it.

Solutions = Let him die!

QUOTE(nicknuck @ Feb 22 2008, 01:05 PM)
eh..anybody know that who want to join LB need to pay rm 36000 ??

my housemate spend rm 36000...his target is govt people who got saving in EPF...

gila la..rm 36000 !! gila !! madness !!
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This is SPARTA SCAMMMMMMMM!!!!

or

This is SPARTA LAMPAAAAAA!!!
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V3 already, fortunately, many folks has been aware about LB scams, however, sadly enough, LB still operating and stacking in lorry lots of cash from countless victims EVERYDAY. No matter what, even until v99, the war never ends!

Let me repeat my true story again, it happened to my sister, and guess who is the LB b**** who brought her in? It is her LECTURER who used to teach part time in UTAR/KTAR and I believed that she is still lurking around preying for innocent uni fresh grads. That b**** said she teach part time because it is her INTEREST, and her main job is LB, but i feel like want to vomit. Yea rite, more like sucking LB.

Day 1, E called up my sister for a yumcha, sister got medical appointment in SunMed but E said nevermind she going Pyramid to buy shoes, so sis met E in Pyramid, me go walk around the shopping center, UNAWARE THAT MY LITTLE SISTER IS IN DANGER. Afterwards when go SunMed and waiting for doctor, sis said E talk bout life, career, ask bout my retiring father and her sickness, TO CONFIRM THAT SHE WILL FALL INTO THE MONEY TRAP.

Day 2, E called up sis again, this time yum cha at nite, and say got part time job to intro since my sis jobless. Sis went out in E car, and disappeared for MORE THEN SEVEN HOURS, i called, mum called, dad called, nearly report police - PHONE RING BUT NO ANSWER. 12am sis called and say coming home, 1am reach home and tell me about LB, I was way more then shocked, like struck by thunder, immediately i rush to nearby office, search for online LB news, print out 100+ pages and bring to her for reading at 2am. Sis inform that they have already taken her to ATM for the money RM2500. I am speechless, she seem so into LB, it was an unrest night.

Day ##-##, a hurricane went thru the family, quarrels and argument, my father who never scold has scolded his little daughter over the phone, my mother has endless tears and been so worried, and even my younger brother thought that his sis is insane. The useless big brother, me myself, has done all effort to bring back her mind, futile effort it is.

D-day, the family found out that sis has taken her young bro's college money and dump into LB. 10k++

D-day++, sis is carrying out LB scams, I was so sad, and refuse to speak to her, even thou we lived under one roof. Sis seldom home anyway, she even DEMAND to use the family car from me, I have a proper job, I need the car, I refused.

Now, stormy season over, everything go back to calm. Sister sickness strike again and she has to refer doctor to accept another new medication, the latest medical bill's over RM4000, more follow ups required, its just the first dose, retired father considering bout finding a job again, I am such a useless son being incapable to share a bit of burden...

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Dear EMILY,
- if you think you are smart by looking for fresh grads which come from outstation and can help u spread business tat far, think again.
- if you able to sleep very well by going for innocent girl who freshly graduate and TRUSTED YOU, going for a patient and give her FALSE HOPE for being better... I hope you spend a few mins at nite and think about it.
- if you even make any money, do remember, it is as good as DRUG MONEY.
- if you ever driving any luxury cars other then the trusty Iswara you used to drive, I wish you drive safely.

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Latest updates: the LB INFESTATION in UTAR is getting more and more severe, not only UTAR is not doing ANYTHING to protect their students, the staff are being conned as well! Everyone in UTAR, please stay alert.

Thanks for reading my rants.


Added on March 5, 2008, 10:06 am
QUOTE(Haihzz @ Feb 21 2008, 10:17 AM)
well its never easy to work in this industry, you have to persuade ppl to to join you and go in the trade...maklumla, orang malaysia, when its comes to money its damm hard. Especially LB, RM2500 the most expensive out there.

I am doing surveying of MLM companies for my project. Been to so many talks, LB ppl talk is powerful, the best out there. I wouldn;t say its a fraud i would say its a very hard work. My friend succeed in it, and im still being pull by him everyday. He got his Rx-8 in 1 year, but really its all out for him, he work his arse off. So far the succeed rate is not much, not all ppl can take rejection properly.

LB = very very hard work, kinda good money.
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In this so called survey, your stand is at LB and you are not neutral, of course neither do i, I am AGAINST LB.

So, is that "he got his Rx-8/5-series/Porche in 1 year" then conclude your "survey" that LB is kinda good money?

You are surveying, means that you start interested and start doing homework to know more. Stick with us more, you wont spend a penny or work the next 20 years for your debts.

Btw... Rx-8 a high running cost car, drink fuel like water, so,
earn more + spend more = zero

QUOTE(L0st @ Feb 21 2008, 11:36 PM)
but why got some ppl really can earn lots ? tats one of my fren lulx
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Oh really? Earn lots and spend lots is different wor my friend, can you make sure he earn lots of spend lots? And how long he can last?

And even thou he can last, how many more youngster need to work the rest of the life to pay off debts?

QUOTE(nicknuck @ Feb 22 2008, 01:05 PM)
eh..anybody know that who want to join LB need to pay rm 36000 ??

my housemate spend rm 36000...his target is govt people who got saving in EPF...

gila la..rm 36000 !! gila !! madness !!
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Yes, even thou the basic is RM2500 to become member, they will pursue you to GO FOR THE MAXIMUM PACKAGE so that they can get the most out of you in the shortest time frame, as they know it very well, most people loose steam after burning for a while, and then they will work a daily job to pay back their debts for the rest of their life and the most they can do is once a while do useless whining in newspaper.

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hi guys, i've been following this LB issue for quite some times now. And I got a funny story to tell ya, it happened late last year:

I have two close friends which I will refer as B and Z.We are still studying and rent a house. And he is sceptical of this mlm stuffs. He was the one who saved me and Z from investing huge amount of money on one of the mlm scams(not LB). He even came out with the 'small pyramid stacks' theory and other logical stuff, the one theory that killed the intense enthusiasm of our (me and Z) 'getting rich fast' back then. He had been to many MLMs function before, know so much and never got conned. So you know la, how tough B was.

The interesting part:
One fine day, one of B's long lost friends (will refer as SCUM) suddenly called him and asked for 'yumcha' together.(actually not so long lost la, never talked much to him because he used to be in the same class as us, a few semester ago)
And he went to meet that guy. When he got back , he told us that SCUM asked him to join this business and bragged this and that (and we thought it would surely be MLM). The next day, SCUM called again and asked B to meet and brought B to Menara HLA and only then he knew SCUM is a SYNer.(|o| we are surrounded by SYN people actually, so many of 'em here). After a few hours of brainwashing by their damn baron, count, marquis-----whateverlah, they think they are from noble family ka?---------B didn't seem to be interested at all (of course la, he's very sceptical meh!!). But SCUM didn't give up yet, he kept pushing B to follow him to the NDO, first B didn't want to go because kena bayar ma and also do wan't ma no use,!! Then SCUM told him,"no need to bayar la, I will pay for you". Being firm to SCUM, B warned him that this is the last one, if he is not interested, stop bothering him anymore, SCUM replied OK!! So B went to the NDO, we werent worry la because we believe he won't get conned that easy. But I was indeed wrong, back from NDO, late at night, we were so shocked, he brought back one of that LB thingy!!Gave away more than RM500 |o| and was convinced to join, he look blur!blur! I hit him hard and asked "do you realize what are you doin? better be beggar la than cheat ppls money". Luckily he came to his senses. Aiyoo!! made me cemas already!! What's with this NDO ar? Can brainwash ppl like that? got this lamp all around ar? do 'mandrem' ar? make evil lurk into your brain ar? B wasted money already. Lucky la, not 30k. Aiyoo.

continue....

Seeing B got twisted that way, made Z scared lo.... rupe2nye he promised sum1 to go to the BUSINESS PREVIEW. He was told the devil himself gonna b there and preach, imagine what u gonna hear from his mouth, words from the deepest hell.......wah, so scary. after seeing what NDO can do, than that moneysucking leech devil must be much more. z cannot sleep lo that night, just before he go to the biz prev, he gave me all his bank cards, supplement cdt card, withdraw all his money n gave 300 to me, ask me to only give him 10 a day for belanja, the rest gave to his parents for safekeeping. Even wrote agreement letter signed by me, B, and his parents, stating that if anything ever go wrong after the biz prev, we have the right to slap him until ICU and if he ever asked to borrow money we can even ikat him at his room for a week without any food n just some water. Got very scared la this fella. But at last, he didn't go, bcoz got fever. (too scared to go until got fever). yalah, Wouldn't you be scared? facing the devil himself alone, with room filled with fanatic worshippers and high priests and his army of money demons. shocking.gif Level 3A and ...(I don't remember what floor) are now demons' lair.

After that, we never go near SYNer again, or even the HLA building. It is where the demons reside during day and bring their prey at night. Better not go there, if you wish to go there, better poke your eyes until blind and ur ears until u are deaf. Still I can not guarantee though! smile.gif

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QUOTE(Haihzz @ Feb 21 2008, 10:17 AM)
I am doing surveying of MLM companies for my project. Been to so many talks, LB ppl talk is powerful, the best out there. I wouldn;t say its a fraud i would say its a very hard work. My friend succeed in it, and im still being pull by him everyday. He got his Rx-8 in 1 year, but really its all out for him, he work his arse off. So far the succeed rate is not much, not all ppl can take rejection properly.

LB = very very hard work, kinda good money.
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You seem to be blinded by that RX-8, hard work? shakehead.gif hard work = con ppl? your hard work is to talk a lot ar? good money? ya lah, before ENRON was closed, people also thought they make good money. How can you say it is good money? when by theory and calculations at least 8O PERCENT of the particiconned (participants) are meant to fail by default. They claim to be helping ppl? Help my *ss la. I aggree though they are indeed helping ppl to lose money, helping that darn bald headed DEVIL to get richer, richer and richer, helping their uplines to suck more money from the downlines. doh.gif Idiot!!! I myself heard they insult working and studying ppl. What for working for small money? What for you study? Telling how they regret studying for years. Yeala! Of course la you regret, if you want to be CON PPL no need la tu study. Me also will regret la, if it turns out the career I want to do is con, con, con. What is wrong with working for small money? I have belief, better to get small pay than to suck other ppls' money. Then they will reside in hell forever, hahahha! They and the bald headed devil will be condemned to hell for all eternity. Then these SYNer can kiss and lick his butt forever-ever w/o ending |o|

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QUOTE(lompatlari @ Mar 6 2008, 04:49 PM)
hi guys, i've been following this LB issue for quite some times now. And I got a funny story to tell ya, it happened late last year:

I have two close friends which I will refer as B and Z.We are still studying and rent a house. And he is sceptical of this mlm stuffs. He was the one who saved me and Z from investing huge amount of money on one of the mlm scams(not LB). He even came out with the 'small pyramid stacks' theory and other logical stuff, the one theory that killed the intense enthusiasm of our (me and Z) 'getting rich fast' back then. He had been to many MLMs function before, know so much and never got conned. So you know la, how tough B was.

The interesting part:
One fine day, one of B's long lost friends (will refer as SCUM) suddenly called him and asked for 'yumcha' together.(actually not so long lost la, never talked much to him because he used to be in the same class as us, a few semester ago)
And he went to meet that guy. When he got back , he told us that SCUM asked him to join this business and bragged this and that (and we thought it would surely be MLM). The next day, SCUM called again and asked B to meet and brought B to Menara HLA and only then he knew SCUM is a SYNer.(|o| we are surrounded by SYN people actually, so many of 'em here). After a few hours of brainwashing by their damn baron, count, marquis-----whateverlah, they think they are from noble family ka?---------B didn't seem to be interested at all (of course la, he's very sceptical meh!!). But SCUM didn't give up yet, he kept pushing B to follow him to the NDO, first B didn't want to go because kena bayar ma and also do wan't ma no use,!! Then SCUM told him,"no need to bayar la, I will pay for you". Being firm to SCUM, B warned him that this is the last one, if he is not interested, stop bothering him anymore, SCUM replied OK!! So B went to the NDO, we werent worry la because we believe he won't get conned that easy. But I was indeed wrong, back from NDO, late at night, we were so shocked, he brought back one of that LB thingy!!Gave away more than RM500 |o|  and was convinced to join, he look blur!blur! I hit him hard and asked "do you realize what are you doin? better be beggar la than cheat ppls money". Luckily he came to his senses. Aiyoo!! made me cemas already!! What's with this NDO ar? Can brainwash ppl like that? got this lamp all around ar? do 'mandrem' ar? make evil lurk into your brain ar? B wasted money already. Lucky la, not 30k. Aiyoo.

continue....

Seeing B got twisted that way, made Z scared lo.... rupe2nye he promised sum1 to go to the BUSINESS PREVIEW. He was told the devil himself gonna b there and preach, imagine what u gonna hear from his mouth, words from the deepest hell.......wah, so scary. after seeing what NDO can do, than that moneysucking leech devil must be much more. z cannot sleep lo that night, just before he go to the biz prev, he gave me all his bank cards, supplement cdt card, withdraw all his money n gave 300 to me, ask me to only give him 10 a day for belanja, the rest gave to his parents for safekeeping. Even wrote agreement letter signed by me, B, and his parents, stating that if anything ever go wrong after the biz prev, we have the right to slap him until ICU and if he ever asked to borrow money we can even ikat him at his room for a week without any food n just some water. Got very scared la this fella. But at last, he didn't go, bcoz got fever. (too scared to go until got fever). yalah, Wouldn't you be scared? facing the devil himself alone, with room filled with fanatic worshippers and high priests and his army of money demons.  shocking.gif Level 3A and ...(I don't remember what floor) are now demons' lair.

After that, we never go near SYNer again, or even the HLA building. It is where the demons reside during day and bring their prey at night. Better not go there, if you wish to go there, better poke your eyes until blind and ur ears until u are deaf. Still I can not guarantee though! smile.gif
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Did B reveal how he got sucked into forking out more than Rm500?
Did he say there was something he smelt/fumes? or the incessant ramblings of SYNers for him to join that somewhat brainwashed him?
Were he thinking of anything when he drove back to you guys?

hm...you 3 friends seems very close...nice. wub.gif
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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Mar 7 2008, 12:35 PM)
Did B reveal how he got sucked into forking out more than Rm500?
Did he say there was something he smelt/fumes? or the incessant ramblings of SYNers for him to join that somewhat brainwashed him?
Were he thinking of anything when he drove back to you guys?

hm...you 3 friends seems very close...nice.  wub.gif
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I don't really know how they managed to get that money from B. What I know is, they made ppl can't think straight, rclxub.gif and then when you go ' fikiran berkecamuk' they attack your mind inside out. They acted like they really care about B and bla,bla, how rugi if u dont join, this thing is big la. B told me that in the NDO they make quite an impression to outsiders and will make ppl think ''Wow, this is big!! I wanna be a part of this''. Then they keep pushing you with all the misleading facts until you can't think anymore.These guys will not give you time to sort things out. And he told me that these leeches forced him to join as a franchisee RM2K while and he already signed the form. At that time he only got about RM700 in bank, they forced him to give them RM650 as deposit, and they gave one of that lampu to legalize the transaction (meaning - they want to show they dont take ur money la).RM 150 for registration. And they want B to get the balance the next day. How do you know ar? They always have this lamp and smell around them everytime? Standard operation Conning Procedure ke?

Well, all three of us really care of each other, not like that SYNers.


Added on March 7, 2008, 3:15 pmAnother story from one of my working friends in K.Lumpur--this is to show how absurd the conmen are:

W works with a big Telco in KL, his salary is RM1.8k. not even 2k. This guy know how to save money, and sometimes he pamper himself by eating/drinking at expensive restaurant. Like usuallah, one of his friends asked to see him. Then, W told him to meet at Starbuck Pavillion and then they meet. W ordered his favorite ice blended and his friend SCUM2, ordered nothing. Said he just had his drink, and the talk begun. You want money, get rich, we help ppl, until an hour. After the talk ended, he want W to meet him the next day, and SCUM2 will bring his fella marquis and counts. W told SCUM2, I haven't got time tomorrow, if u want to meet me, u can meet at KLCC during noon. Then they aggreed. The next day, W went to Chilis Bar to treat himself once in a while nice meal and told them to meet there. From what I was told, SCUM2 brought 1 Marquis, 2 Challengin Marquis, 2 Counts(including himself). These 'rich' ppl just sat there and talking their bullsh*ting plan, and ordered 2 glasses of plain water only and share, even told W they ate already while 'pow'ing W's nachos. W spend only RM70++ for that meal, and he is a worker, these ppl are millionaires. After bla,bla,bla so much, W told he need to continue his work. He went back to his office for half an hour, then he went to LOW YAT to buy some stuff-- only to find the millionaires eating a full plate of nasik at a mamak restaurant sumwhere around there. You do the judgin la!!!?!??!


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wow, how come I see so many haters!

I love LB!!!! seriously don't like it then don't join lah...

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QUOTE(eatmyanus @ Mar 7 2008, 05:50 PM)
wow, how come I see so many haters!

I love LB!!!! seriously don't like it then don't join lah...
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And if there is seriously something sinister and evil about LB and SYN, then more people should be aware of it.

Can you honestly debunk all those testimonials above? No you can't. Face it, you lost your $$$ on some shitty lamp that does nothing worthwhile other than polluting you with more carbon monoxide!
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hey guys, please keep this thread active always, i know about LB A to Z, there so many friend and youngster like us is being abuse by this biz, pls pls try to save them or at least expose them with this, i've seen so many of my friends who grew so well in LB and die so well also tongue.gif , pity them NOW LB MAIN TARGETED MARKET IS MALAY MARKET, so malay friends out there watch ur steps, u wouldn't want your nightmares.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lompatlari @ Mar 7 2008, 03:15 PM)
... only to find the millionaires eating a full plate of nasik at a mamak restaurant sumwhere around there. You do the judgin la!!!?!??!
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Nice rclxms.gif sharing thumbup.gif lompatlari cool2.gif

The steps taken by Z is not being paranoid or anything, it is in fact RECOMMENDED by the forummers here. Let me repeat it again in red and bolded fonts:

- give all bank cards, supplement cdt card and money to a trusted person for safekeeping, like parents.
- call back every 30 mins, or make some one to call you after 2 hours and if you dont pick up, they go and pick u up.


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Even wrote agreement letter signed by me, B, and his parents, stating that if anything ever go wrong after the biz prev, we have the right to slap him until ICU and if he ever asked to borrow money we can even ikat him at his room for a week without any food n just some water.

Now this is the best part O.o its might be a bit extreme, but trust me, this is a necessary step. Just do whatever you figure necessary as once you caught the virus, there will be no cure.

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How they brain wash you? I might not know all, as if I listen too much of their demonic whispering, I might not be here anymore.

The scene:
- full of con men in suit who pretend to be successful.
- full of mental relaxing perfume burning in an air con room.

My sister:
- a lot of person sharing with her how good the perfume can cure their sickness
- a lot of youngster sharing with her how they take over the burden from their retiring father
- a lot of so called ACCA holders telling her how useless it is to take ACCA(as she was taking it during tat time)
And it keep replay replay replay replay replay replay......... for 7 hours.

In the end of the day, your brain will have nothing else beside LBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLB...

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i heard LB chap lap.. true? heard only.. lol.. duno
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QUOTE(eatmyanus @ Mar 7 2008, 05:50 PM)
wow, how come I see so many haters!

I love LB!!!! seriously don't like it then don't join lah...
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when your free or when ur smart enuf come and defend ur LB here la. seriously lol
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why they not try to start lamp bussiness instead of conning ppl around?
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my god..frankly telling i been approach by this people from MLM quite so many time,they even bring me to their brainwash session,thank god i havent fall for their trap not even one..
i only use one excuse,i always said to them whenever they ask me to join,
well if you think this is good money,and you can earn a lot,why dont you pay for me,i will join if you paid for me...surely it not a burden for you right?since you making tons of money here...
everytime after hearing that,for sure they walk away...
that how i fend them off..

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if their company had been around for so long, if they are successful, then their market would be pretty small now dont u think? if they're market is still not small, then they are not really successful dont u think? lol
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i heard they trying to con Malays into it?
someone can verify it?
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how about sunshine empire eh?
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QUOTE(Alone @ Mar 10 2008, 01:36 AM)
i heard LB chap lap.. true? heard only.. lol.. duno
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Is it true or not? dun tell me our "war against LB scam" just ended here? Just after 2008 election?

got any source or not?
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 10 2008, 03:01 AM)
i heard they trying to con Malays into it?
someone can verify it?
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yep, not only Malays, also Indians - from poor families, saw a lot of Malays already wearing the SYNer uniform around KLCC, JLN KIA PENG & BUKIT BINTANG. Also they manage to get many ppl to buy BARON right after they register as FRANCHISEE, and the new COUNTS intake not so many lah now.
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Now with opposition taking over KL, and Selangor, Penang, Perak and Kedah and denied BN's 2/3 in parliament, I hope they can highlight all these MLM cheaters like SYN, and give more pressure to the existing gomen to take action against them.

SYN! your days are numbered! flex.gif


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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 10 2008, 03:01 AM)
i heard they trying to con Malays into it?
someone can verify it?
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Verified and confirmed, I went to their "family day" dinner i saw a table of Malays there eating ayam goreng.

Saudara-saudari buka minda anda janganlah tertipu oleh Lanpa ni.
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hey, guys. Just, foruming like this won't bring em' down. So, me n friends already printed 100 flyers (not too much loo-- no budget) pointing to this forum antilampa, and lampahelp blog. passed around mmu, malacca. i think okla for a start, we even stick it at the public phone booth.

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QUOTE(cymon @ Mar 10 2008, 01:41 AM)
why they not try to start lamp bussiness instead of conning ppl around?
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the lamp business they are emphasizing is just a mask to cover their scam, if not why in the brainwashing session they keep on insisting forget bout the product...we are selling opportunities here so keep on asking for the victim's money again, again, and again. if they dun hav the lamp product and directly ask for rm2345+ u think got ppl wanna give aR? i rather buy something i want lo....join LB club? i rather sign up for a gym session la...the product so expensive...siapa mau?

QUOTE(lompatlari @ Mar 10 2008, 10:31 AM)
hey, guys. Just, foruming like this won't bring em' down. So, me n friends already printed 100 flyers (not too much loo-- no budget) pointing to this forum antilampa, and lampahelp blog. passed around mmu, malacca. i think okla for a start, we even stick it at the public phone booth.
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well done man....you are the man rclxms.gif rclxms.gif ....but becareful man coz u are exposing danger of urself to those LB crapz, the next thing you'll know is invitation to their headquaters which you should not go
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QUOTE(lompatlari @ Mar 10 2008, 10:31 AM)
hey, guys. Just, foruming like this won't bring em' down. So, me n friends already printed 100 flyers (not too much loo-- no budget) pointing to this forum antilampa, and lampahelp blog. passed around mmu, malacca. i think okla for a start, we even stick it at the public phone booth.
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I suggest u do a forward emails to ur MMU frens about this forum and those anti lampa blog.
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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ Mar 10 2008, 05:24 PM)
I suggest u do a forward emails to ur MMU frens about this forum and those anti lampa blog.
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or you can use b3rnard7 bro siggy below (that BN logo with middle finger one, instead of BN, replace it with Lampe Berger logo rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Mar 10 2008, 05:41 PM)
or you can use b3rnard7 bro siggy below (that BN logo with middle finger one, instead of BN, replace it with Lampe Berger logo  rclxms.gif
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CAN also! Permission Granted!!!! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Mar 10 2008, 09:25 AM)
Now with opposition taking over KL, and Selangor, Penang, Perak and Kedah and denied BN's 2/3 in parliament, I hope they can highlight all these MLM cheaters like SYN, and give more pressure to the existing gomen to take action against them.

SYN! your days are numbered! flex.gif
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That was what I've been thinking too rolleyes.gif
might send emails to some MPs...
We'll see how...



QUOTE(lompatlari @ Mar 10 2008, 10:31 AM)
hey, guys. Just, foruming like this won't bring em' down. So, me n friends already printed 100 flyers (not too much loo-- no budget) pointing to this forum antilampa, and lampahelp blog. passed around mmu, malacca. i think okla for a start, we even stick it at the public phone booth.
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rclxms.gif i salute to u n ur frens
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nobody told me now V3 leh.. hahhaa,
are they still out there trying to brainwash people!!! GOSH!
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hey guys.. i am so into to STOP this shit.. can we all work out something and bring this lampe berger to a stop ? can we do it !! bernard can lead us..
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QUOTE(Thedonbk @ Mar 8 2008, 02:45 AM)
hey guys, please keep this thread active always, i know about LB A to Z, there so many friend and youngster like us is being abuse by this biz, pls pls try to save them or at least expose them with this, i've seen so many of my friends who grew so well in LB and die so well also  tongue.gif , pity them NOW LB MAIN TARGETED MARKET IS MALAY MARKET, so malay friends out there watch ur steps, u wouldn't want your nightmares..  biggrin.gif
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As long as Lampa Berger ppl still exist, this forum is always exist.Even though if Lampa Beger "chap lap", I will start a new topic called RIP Lampe Berger or Lampe Berger Aftermath

QUOTE(sandw|ch @ Mar 14 2008, 01:58 AM)
hey guys.. i am so into to STOP this shit.. can we all work out something and bring this lampe berger to a stop ? can we do it !! bernard can lead us..
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Well,...about this actually me and a forumer in LYN and also the owner of those "ANTI lampa berger blog" met up with a "person".He told us the dark secrets of Steven Yeam.I prefer not to disclosed this "person" name.

We can make use of internet since we dun have the $$$ to bring them down.Just like how BA bring down BN.
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LB also con u with a relationship -.-
if they know u eying on a girl/guy they will ask the guy/guy approach you.
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QUOTE(bebee @ Mar 14 2008, 09:19 AM)
LB also con u with a relationship -.-
if they know u eying on a girl/guy they will ask the guy/guy approach you.
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I am sure they will! Even thou one of their "rules" say otherwise.

LB rules:
- no boy gal relationship among members
- no money relationship
- etc etc

You wanna get pretty girls, go to church, at least you get to sing every Sunday and you wont need to take personal loan.

LB culprits will do just ANYTHING to get your trust and money, their oil can even cure disease! Even NOSE CANCER, can you imagine how dangerous this misleading can be especially to a REAL nose cancer who gave up proper treatment and end up sucking oil everyday until its too late... and LB'er are smart, why? Coz dead people wont complain.

Read it in a health magazine about an interview to a woman who claimed her nose cancer CURED by fragrance oil and showing some LB bottles.

Moral of the story is:
- Never believe 100% to anything especially when it got something to do with you, its ain't bad to doubt.
- If 20 years of education failed to teach you how to use your brain logically, refer to your parents.
BEFORE YOU GO TO THEIR GATHERING CENTER

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Well,...about this actually me and a forumer in LYN and also the owner of those "ANTI lampa berger blog" met up with a "person".He told us the dark secrets of Steven Yeam.I prefer not to disclosed this "person" name.

We can make use of internet since we dun have the $$$ to bring them down.Just like how BA bring down BN.
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What don't you tell us the dark secret of that baldie. Is your source reliable? proof? or wanna make one? count me in.
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QUOTE(rexis @ Mar 14 2008, 11:34 AM)

Read it in a health magazine about an interview to a woman who claimed her nose cancer CURED by fragrance oil and showing some LB bottles.
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dammit stupid woman. hope she gets another 2nd round of cancer.

For ONE person who recovered, there might be hundres more who failed, and might have DIED trying LB + refusal to find proper treatment. That's why they can;t be ressurrected from the grave to be interviewed on their "failure" while using LB.



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nah~ the cancer must have moved from her nose into her brain already
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What don't you tell us the dark secret of that baldie. Is your source reliable? proof? or wanna make one? count me in.
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I'm not only the person who know this,but there are another 2 person which are LYN forumer as well. biggrin.gif
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i just found out that one of my friends is in SYN!! im so worried of her...
send her a link to this forum. hope she will read it...
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Me myself also nearly fell into SYN. It was introduced by one of my primary classmate. We met each other after SPM during a gathering. After that he invited me to go to the IME in Sunway. Then i went there. I was quite impressed by all the RX-8 and Fair Ladyz.
Few days later he called me out for yum cha. I went and asked how they actually make so much of money. So my frien brought me to their branch at Sunway there. As usual i was brain washed by their fantasy talking and BMW Z4 which is my dream car.
Second day, i asked mum about it and my mum advice me not to join as there are no easy money in this world. So i decided to follow mom's advice and started think logically. In the end i stopped contact this friend. Even he smsed me to go for some concert thingy held in Bkt Jalil or some kind of promotion about SYN, i was totally ignored his sms. He tried to convince me or persuade me to join many times. Yet, i totally ignored.
I adviced all my friends not to join SYN since they are scammers. I dont know whether my friend is scamming me or he was really don't know about it is a scam. I will never meet him anymore. shakehead.gif


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QUOTE(lawl @ Mar 16 2008, 12:52 AM)
Me myself also nearly fell into LYN. It was introduced by one of my primary classmate. We met each other after SPM during a gathering. After that he invited me to go to the IME in Sunway. Then i went there. I was quite impressed by all the RX-8 and Fair Ladyz.
  Few days later he called me out for yum cha. I went and asked how they actually make so much of money. So my frien brought me to their branch at Sunway there. As usual i was brain washed by their fantasy talking and BMW Z4 which is my dream car.
  Second day, i asked mum about it and my mum advice me not to join as there are no easy money in this world. So i decided to follow mom's advice and started think logically. In the end i stopped contact this friend. Even he smsed me to go for some concert thingy held in Bkt Jalil or some kind of promotion about LYN, i was totally ignored his sms. He tried to convince me or persuade me to join many times. Yet, i totally ignored.
  I adviced all my friends not to join LYN since they are scammers. I dont know whether my friend is scamming me or he was really don't know about it is a scam. I will never meet him anymore.  shakehead.gif


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Hey brother, LYN or SYN? AFAIK...LYN dun scam ppl want wor laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lompatlari @ Mar 10 2008, 08:59 AM)
yep, not only Malays, also Indians - from poor families, saw a lot of Malays already wearing the SYNer uniform around KLCC, JLN KIA PENG & BUKIT BINTANG. Also they manage to get many ppl to buy BARON right after they register as FRANCHISEE, and the new COUNTS intake not so many lah now.
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oh gosh, i hope there will be less people join
the more people join = the more steven yeam earn

QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ Mar 14 2008, 08:55 AM)
As long as Lampa Berger ppl still exist, this forum is always exist.Even though if Lampa Beger "chap lap", I will start a new topic called RIP Lampe Berger or Lampe Berger Aftermath
Well,...about this actually me and a forumer in LYN and also the owner of those "ANTI lampa berger blog" met up with a "person".He told us the dark secrets of Steven Yeam.I prefer not to disclosed this "person" name.

We can make use of internet since we dun have the $$$ to bring them down.Just like how BA bring down BN.
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mind to tell me further about him in personal?
i'd like to know his background also
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Oh I'll be going for this talk tonite. Interesting.
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Hey brother, LYN or SYN? AFAIK...LYN dun scam ppl want wor  laugh.gif
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I edited it liao. Sorry sorry. Hope they will get lost from the earth. =D
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 17 2008, 04:42 AM)
oh gosh, i hope there will be less people join
the more people join = the more steven yeam earn
mind to tell me further about him in personal?
i'd like to know his background also

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actually he is a ordinary man, bcos he marry a rich woman.He manage to become wat he have today and scam ppl as well!

pendek kata : makan nasi lembut!

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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ Mar 18 2008, 07:46 PM)
actually he is a ordnary man, bcos he marry a rich woman.He manage to become wat he have today and scam ppl as well!

pendek kata : makan nasi lembut!
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omg....so rich already still con people's money
one day he will kena punch by someone, i believe laugh.gif
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QUOTE(=Hanxz= @ Mar 10 2008, 03:14 AM)
how about sunshine empire eh?
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Someone please help Hanxz.. second time already this fella ask... tongue.gif

QUOTE(lompatlari @ Mar 10 2008, 10:31 AM)
hey, guys. Just, foruming like this won't bring em' down. So, me n friends already printed 100 flyers (not too much loo-- no budget) pointing to this forum antilampa, and lampahelp blog. passed around mmu, malacca. i think okla for a start, we even stick it at the public phone booth.
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Need some budget??

QUOTE(sandw|ch @ Mar 14 2008, 01:58 AM)
hey guys.. i am so into to STOP this shit.. can we all work out something and bring this lampe berger to a stop ? can we do it !! bernard can lead us..
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stop this? This thing will never stop and i bet you those clowns in there can't afford to let it go..
too much money and too many victims already to stop this thing..

Oh.. some interesting findings.. wink.gif

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Someone please help Hanxz.. second time already this fella ask... tongue.gif


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finally someone noticed my post anyone with information? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Ultimat3 @ Mar 18 2008, 10:06 PM)
Hey people.. I'm still around.. smile.gif Let's make it to V4!!!
Someone please help Hanxz.. second time already this fella ask... tongue.gif
Need some budget??
stop this? This thing will never stop and i bet you those clowns in there can't afford to let it go..
too much money and too many victims already to stop this thing..

Oh.. some interesting findings.. wink.gif

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i entered the building at somewhere near klcc. i attended the seminar but i was never brainwashed. all those sweet talks were just not sweet enough for me. and they didnt give up. one after the another. luckily i am one tough guy. i questioned them to determine their purpose and way of business. they couldn't answer me and tried to elevate to other topics. i was 17 then. =)

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QUOTE(atrocitines @ Mar 18 2008, 11:27 PM)
i entered the building at somewhere near klcc. i attended the seminar but i was never brainwashed. all those sweet talks were just not sweet enough for me. and they didnt give up. one after the another. luckily i am one tough guy. i questioned them to determine their purpose and way of business. they couldn't answer me and tried to elevate to other topics. i was 17 then. =)
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 18 2008, 09:48 PM)
omg....so rich already still con people's money
one day he will kena punch by someone, i believe  laugh.gif
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i heard they trying to con Malays into it?
someone can verify it?
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allow me to verify this.

this LB thingy is now targetting ppl other than Chinese. It is due to the lack of awareness among the other races. In my university as well as other IPTA's, LB had succeeded in recruiting its new dumbasses.

one of them is my used to be bestfren. she involves with this disease last year and it appears that LB is everything for her. She had spent more than rm30k [her ASB] in order to prove that all our advices are wrong and she would certainly grabbed her dream tho.

until today, she keep on bugging my other frens to join this stupid LB. the modus operandi is similar to the taiko2 at kia peng there. she wont tell the potential victim about the rm2500 thingy. never ever! one of the victim told me that even tho the victim keep on insisting her to know how much the 'initial capital' must be put, she would say that , unless if u're agree to join, then only we would tell u.

as if there exist some sort of active concealment in their way of persuading the potential victim.

this fella [my LB fren] after joining LB, had changed her 'taste'. when we talked about cars, only BMW 5series popped out from her mouth. lol.. the truth is that to eat johnny pun have to wait until ppl willing to belanja. aiyaaaaa

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QUOTE(sCooteRiSm @ Mar 19 2008, 05:03 AM)
allow me to verify this.

this LB thingy is now targetting ppl other than Chinese. It is due to the lack of awareness among the other races. In my university as well as other IPTA's, LB had succeeded in recruiting its new dumbasses.

one of them is my used to be bestfren. she involves with this disease last year and it appears that LB is everything for her. She had spent more than rm30k [her ASB] in order to prove that all our advices are wrong and she would certainly grabbed her dream tho.

until today, she keep on bugging my other frens to join this stupid LB. the modus operandi is similar to the taiko2 at kia peng there. she wont tell the potential victim about the rm2500 thingy. never ever! one of the victim told me that even tho the victim keep on insisting her to know how much the 'initial capital' must be put, she would say that , unless if u're agree to join, then only we would tell u.

as if there exist some sort of active concealment in their way of persuading the potential victim.

this fella [my LB fren] after joining LB, had changed her 'taste'. when we talked about cars, only BMW 5series popped out from her mouth. lol.. the truth is that to eat johnny pun have to wait until ppl willing to belanja. aiyaaaaa

big mouth, small penny rclxub.gif
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they are aiming those students with PTPTA loan, some of them are very stupid, lend 30k end up the money in their pocket doh.gif
and today i go mamak stall chit-chating with my friend, it seems they like to bring a paper to mark and check things, my friend told me that is their "target list", and today i saw a LB fellow driving a BMW 3 series, some more quite Lan C(arrogant) type
damn...i hope his car will tow
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finally someone noticed my post anyone with information? tongue.gif
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From what I understand from Sunshine Empire.
They are running some sort of MLM also..
Which also got to do with investment.

Last I heard is that it is about investing on land development in Taiwan.
Where the return seems to be a substantial one.

Sure get rich wan.. only a handful will... always.. the top ones..

I know this guy driving BMW 5 series thanks to Sunshine Empire..

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 19 2008, 05:19 AM)
they are aiming those students with PTPTA loan, some of them are very stupid, lend 30k end up the money in their pocket doh.gif
and today i go mamak stall chit-chating with my friend, it seems they like to bring a paper to mark and check things, my friend told me that is their "target list", and today i saw a LB fellow driving a BMW 3 series, some more quite Lan C(arrogant) type
damn...i hope his car will tow
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hello..

can anybody show me a source or a link to newsclip or news paper as a prove about dchl being banned in HK and taiwan..
some of my friends already join dis SYN..and even pump up 40K for some position rank.. doh.gif
i know they are beyond rescue anymore..
but just want to show them.,

thankS~

great thread tho...
keep it up..

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QUOTE(teetotem @ Mar 23 2008, 08:38 PM)
hello..

can anybody show me a source or a link to newsclip or news paper as a prove about dchl being banned in HK and taiwan..
some of my friends already join dis SYN..and even pump up 40K for some position rank.. doh.gif
i know they are beyond rescue anymore..
but just want to show them.,

thankS~

great thread tho...
keep it up..

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They are not banned in HK or Taiwan. Maybe you can search the LB manufacturer website and some US sellers websites. They clearly showed it is a perfumery or fragrance products but this MLM Company claimed they are aromatherapy products. This is already cheating.

Can someone bring up the HK Magazines news and TV program which HK TVB aired to warn the public that this Company is cheating. SYN claimed that HK TVB and the HK Magazines admited the mistake and apologised to them. Only fools will believe them.

Tell and show your friends these facts. It's enough to prevent your friends from joining they are not fools.

They also claimed their cosmetics, ASSTEBEL is more than 100 years in France. Also a lie. Ask any French people, nobody knows it. If a Cosmetic brands of over 100 years and yet nobody knows, will you think it is good ? Again, for foolish people.

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QUOTE(Ultimat3 @ Mar 19 2008, 10:41 AM)
From what I understand from Sunshine Empire.
They are running some sort of MLM also..
Which also got to do with investment.

Last I heard is that it is about investing on land development in Taiwan.
Where the return seems to be a substantial one.

Sure get rich wan.. only a handful will... always.. the top ones..

I know this guy driving BMW 5 series thanks to Sunshine Empire..
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Sunshine Empire is already under investigation in Singapore. No more business there but still active in Malaysia because of "scammers-members" support. They already stopped paying out commisions or any monies. They only pay- e-points which member can only change to money if they can recxruit new victims.

So it's like Vampires get new members. Members turn into Vampires and look for new victims.
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QUOTE(lompatlari @ Mar 10 2008, 10:31 AM)
hey, guys. Just, foruming like this won't bring em' down. So, me n friends already printed 100 flyers (not too much loo-- no budget) pointing to this forum antilampa, and lampahelp blog. passed around mmu, malacca. i think okla for a start, we even stick it at the public phone booth.
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Since LB is register under Direct Selling license, they can't do any public advertisement. Like stamping flyers around.
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QUOTE(teetotem @ Mar 23 2008, 08:38 PM)
hello..

can anybody show me a source or a link to newsclip or news paper as a prove about dchl being banned in HK and taiwan..
some of my friends already join dis SYN..and even pump up 40K for some position rank.. doh.gif
i know they are beyond rescue anymore..
but just want to show them.,

thankS~

great thread tho...
keep it up..

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wah...40k to become count?
bugger they all
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WTH, after so many years... there are still dumbarse who join LB!!?!?!?!?!
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QUOTE(stopscams007 @ Mar 23 2008, 11:27 PM)
Sunshine Empire is already under investigation in Singapore. No more business there but still active in Malaysia because of "scammers-members" support. They already stopped paying out commisions or any monies. They only pay- e-points which member can only change to money if they can recxruit new victims.

So it's like Vampires get new members. Members turn into Vampires and look for new victims.
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ya, sunshine empire facing deeep shitt...
DONT TOUCH THIS COMPANY!! it's even worse than LB IMO
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oh my god....my friend has been actively promoting this sunshine empire le.....he's an ex-LB member.....and now a S.E member.....oh my god.....he's such a sh*t-head.....always falling into this kind-of scam....anyone out there have any info or proof bout this sunshine empire thing??
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ohh,LB is really good on brainwashing people, last time a friend of mine said he got a business 2 intro me,bt he dont want 2 talk about it at at coffee shop, he said did u see any boss talk about serous business in a coffee shop?? i was like ,yeah true true.so he bring me 2 his office,when i saw Lampa buger i was like WTF,bt cant run already coz wana giv him some face. Although i kno it is a shit company tat wants their downline spoonfeed their uplines i still almost get dragged by them. They really pro brainwashing. I tell u,human weakness is mainly easy money, no need work hard 2 get many money, and they provide u this kind of desire that ur seeking, I TELL U iT IS IMPOSIBLE!!! IF u wish 2 get hated my ur friends and family,then do so,bt careful,if u mess with the wrong guy,1 day u will get hurt serously rclxms.gif
they will show some pics tat LB members car all BMW etc etc. WTH??? Is it proud 2 owned a good car by pulling innocent people in the pit of death?? They always like 2 show how young of the LB members 2 own a house or any stuff tat they scamed so u will think that u will b sucessful in 1-2 yrs or some evern more worse said they will sucess in 1-3 months.i belief u will be rich in few months only u won a big jackpot.U will b sucessful if u scamed lots of ppl, u will also be more poor and more hated by ppl if u failed,think of the risk,and tat aint preety,dnt think that u can b 1 of the rich ppl because every1 think of them as the same. Lucky that time when i went back home,my mind was suddenly clear and calm icon_idea.gif LB member beware,cause humans wont forgive u when ur alive,god wont love u when ur dead,devil will surely find u that time because u just look like him rclxms.gif good lucky meeting ur fren in ur afterlife,wish u will be enjoying it
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QUOTE(nameless89 @ Mar 24 2008, 10:44 PM)
ohh,LB is really good on brainwashing people, last time a friend of mine said he got a business 2 intro me,bt he dont want 2 talk about it at at coffee shop, he said did u see any boss talk about serous business in a coffee shop?? i was like ,yeah true true.so he bring me 2 his office,when i saw Lampa buger i was like WTF,bt cant run already coz wana giv him some face. Although i kno it is a shit company tat wants their downline spoonfeed their uplines i still almost get dragged by them. They really pro brainwashing. I tell u,human weakness is mainly easy money, no need work hard 2 get many money, and they provide u this kind of desire that ur seeking, I TELL U iT IS IMPOSIBLE!!! IF u wish 2 get hated my ur friends and family,then do so,bt careful,if u mess with the wrong guy,1 day u will get hurt serously  rclxms.gif
they will show some pics tat LB members car all BMW etc etc. WTH??? Is it proud 2 owned a good car by pulling innocent people in the pit of death?? They always like 2 show how young of the LB members 2 own a house or any stuff tat they scamed so u will think that u will b sucessful in 1-2 yrs or some evern more worse said they will sucess in  1-3 months.i belief u will be rich in few months only u won a big jackpot.U will b sucessful if u scamed lots of ppl, u will also be more poor and more hated by ppl if u failed,think of the risk,and tat aint preety,dnt think that u can b 1 of the rich ppl because every1 think of them as the same. Lucky that time when i went back home,my mind was suddenly clear and calm icon_idea.gif  LB member beware,cause humans wont forgive u when ur alive,god wont love u when ur dead,devil will surely find u that time because u just look like him rclxms.gif  good lucky meeting ur fren in ur afterlife,wish u will be enjoying it
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why that time you didn't tell, why still got people fail and loss all their money? laugh.gif

I guess if you said that, you cannot come out from that office
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ohh that time i said i will think about it 1st, then they said dont think about it already, must be fast 2 get a better future.bla bla bla, 1 thing,dont be greedy drool.gif
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Something for you all to read lah..

http://jenkinyat.com/2008/03/22/the-lampe-...akeover-part-1/

http://jenkinyat.com/2008/03/23/the-lampe-...akeover-part-2/

biggrin.gif enjoy...
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QUOTE(Ultimat3 @ Mar 25 2008, 08:30 PM)
AHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(Ultimat3 @ Mar 25 2008, 08:30 PM)
Damn funny la those Lampa ppl!
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Like i said. Lampa b****es think 2 high and might of them. we just wait 2-3 yes till their bank empty then they MAYBE will relize such a crap they are. peace peace
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omg.. this lampa berger thingie is gettin worst.. y not we all work 2gether and go against it smile.gif
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more complaints about DCHL here
http://www.consumer.com.my/message/index.p...atid=3&blogid=1

some of you might want to join in the fun also, don't just complaint here, go complaint there also! thumbup.gif
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lamp berger is a french company. and in australia and new zealand its actually sold in shops.
but in malaysia we are paying 3X easily for the cost price so that the up lines can earn more.
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may i know will they give out sort of payslip when you get ur investment back ?
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i work at menara hla.everyday also alot of "sui yu" will go to LB.i hink now they start target malay market.1 of my colleague is LB member.so i ask him after he join as a member wat is the benefit n wat product they need to sales.u noe wat he reply me.he say LB PPL NO NEED TO DO SALES N WILL EARN $$$ N WHO DIDNT JOINT LB IS USELESS PPL.wat the huat he talking about...haiz...
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Yes, yes, they are indeed a bunch of scammers. What are they thinking, actually? Everyone else are useless. Everyone should join LB, then where would they go get their cloth and stuff when no one would make it for them. You can wear the LB bottles ar? stupid la.
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QUOTE(chatwarrior @ Apr 2 2008, 07:33 PM)
No time to read all your links. Care to explain why you think they are scammers in your OP ? They are over 100 years !! Can scam last so long ?
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If you have no time to read, then don't waste your time asking here.

Guess you don;t know who /what SYN is?
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QUOTE(toothgnasher @ Apr 2 2008, 08:37 PM)
may i know will they give out sort of payslip when you get ur investment back ?
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I believe they do, to make it seem much more legitimate. You can see how much your conning effort worth
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HOho...i almost Kena Their Tactics...
My cousin Just Grad from Ukm...Paid Rm20k to get the Level gold something....haha.. so funny...My father ask me to see la what's going on...and warn her/family, but there wanna get rich fast ma...I said to my father sure they kene Tipu edi. Then i go ler to the HLA building....all the scammer inside there wearing Blazer la like a Manager/Exec la....i started to laugh ....There all Story Porsche la, M5 la, Gucci la....Naik kereta parking...Only kelisa and buatan malaysia under....hahaha..Better invest rm20k open Kiosk or Francais la kawan...

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QUOTE(toothgnasher @ Apr 2 2008, 08:37 PM)
may i know will they give out sort of payslip when you get ur investment back ?
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i think they do have payslip, but i never seen it before
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QUOTE(chatwarrior @ Apr 2 2008, 07:33 PM)
No time to read all your links. Care to explain why you think they are scammers in your OP ? They are over 100 years !! Can scam last so long ?
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So wat if the product is 100 years? DCHL & SYN use dirty tactics to CONvince ppl.Many ppl has fall into this scam! For more info, read the blogs! If u malas to read,join Lampa Burger and let them CON ur money 1st!

QUOTE(selenium @ Apr 2 2008, 07:53 PM)
lamp berger is a french company. and in australia and new zealand its actually sold in shops.
but in malaysia we are paying 3X easily for the cost price so that the up lines can earn more.
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Correction,Lampe Berger in Malaysia is doing MLM way by using Pyramid Scheme!

QUOTE(twentyfour24 @ Apr 2 2008, 08:47 PM)
i work at menara hla.everyday also alot of "sui yu" will go to LB.i hink now they start target malay market.1 of my colleague is LB member.so i ask him after he join as a member wat is the benefit n wat product they need to sales.u noe wat he reply me.he say LB PPL NO NEED TO DO SALES N WILL EARN $$$ N WHO DIDNT JOINT LB IS USELESS PPL.wat the huat he talking about...haiz...
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Then,why dun u ask ur malay collegue resign from the company and do Lampa Burger for fulltime? If I'm u,I will do as I please! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(lompatlari @ Apr 3 2008, 09:11 AM)
Yes, yes, they are indeed a bunch of scammers. What are they thinking, actually? Everyone else are useless. Everyone should join LB, then where would they go get their cloth and stuff when no one would make it for them. You can wear the LB bottles ar? stupid la.
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This is LAMPAAAAAA ppl culture! I been to menara HLA b4 to see their true colors! But I nvr join these Lampa ppl!

QUOTE(naughtyz @ Apr 4 2008, 11:25 AM)
HOho...i almost Kena Their Tactics...
My cousin Just Grad from Ukm...Paid Rm20k to get the Level gold something....haha.. so funny...My father ask me to see la what's going on...and warn her/family, but there wanna get rich fast ma...I said to my father  sure they kene Tipu edi. Then i go ler to the HLA building....all the scammer inside there wearing Blazer la  like a Manager/Exec la....i started to laugh ....There all Story Porsche la, M5 la, Gucci la....Naik kereta parking...Only kelisa and buatan malaysia under....hahaha..Better invest rm20k open Kiosk or Francais la kawan...
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Well,...as I said b4...just like a pesakit who reject doctor's medicine.Since he/she wanna reject,better let him/her die!

Sesal dulu berpendatan,sesal kemudian tiada berguna! Itulah sesiapa yang menjadi LAMPA!

If I got RM20K,I rather do investment or starting my own business.
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QUOTE(nameless89 @ Mar 26 2008, 07:21 PM)
Like i said. Lampa b****es think 2 high and might of them. we just wait 2-3 yes till their bank empty then they MAYBE will relize such a crap they are. peace peace
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FYI,Lampa B*tches will whore themselves for money in order to join LB!
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FYI,Lampa B*tches will whore themselves for money in order to join LB!
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not only they will whore themselves..they will make others do it also just to join LB..
hahaha..
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QUOTE(chatwarrior @ Apr 2 2008, 07:33 PM)
No time to read all your links. Care to explain why you think they are scammers in your OP ? They are over 100 years !! Can scam last so long ?
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Yes if the government is willing to protect it. Please dont tell me u don't know if this is possible in Malaysia. In Msia u bomb people also u can get away with it with power and money la. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(naughtyz @ Apr 4 2008, 11:25 AM)
There all Story Porsche la, M5 la, Gucci la....Naik kereta parking...Only kelisa and buatan malaysia under....hahaha..Better invest rm20k open Kiosk or Francais la kawan...
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i got a fren who drive ke70 and talking about buying porsche and s2000 in 1 year time..how about that drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

lampa berger > teh intarweb brows.gif
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QUOTE(chatwarrior @ Apr 5 2008, 01:48 AM)
I don't feel asking here is a waste of time.

Why should I know who/what is SYN ?

Whether you are a supporter or against them, voice your opinions.
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u a SYN member ah? why u just register then asking opinion here? go and sell ur lamp la..maybe u will get ur ferrari soon thumbup.gif
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Added on April 5, 2008, 2:14 amhmm lempe berger?... am not supporting them and dont condemn them

basically the money earn is from those "unfortunate" people who join and stop. Right? or wrong?

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the earn money from help SCAMMING people and argue that they are not SCAMMING

they would not hesitate to SCAM their friends and family after being brain washed by the stupid seminar


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1. Do I have to sell products?
They said we do investment. Not selling products. I become more interested with the investment plan.

2. Do I have to recruit people in order for me to make money?
They said, we dont find people. We help people who really needs it.

3. How much money do I need to invest? They said RM2,500.00.

4. Do I get my investment back? They said yes, you do get your investment back.

5. If my uncle want to join and put RM 2,500.00 and doesnt want to find people. Will he still receive money? They DCHL members said, he will get RM200 per month.



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QUOTE(athlonxp @ Apr 5 2008, 02:18 AM)
the earn money from help SCAMMING people and argue that they are not SCAMMING

they would not hesitate to SCAM their friends and family after being brain washed by the stupid seminar
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can validate on your uncle?
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LOL.
i attended the seminar, not really a seminar.
more like meeting some higher rank fella.
the way he sell it to me,
and the point i got it was,
i pay RM2500 and get 5 of my dumb and rich friends who can fork out RM2500 as well.
i get my first income by them.
RM125 per person = RM625.
it is actually more like,
hey give me RM125 and i won't return it to you forever.
and then,
this fella goes all the way about we don't have to sell the lampeh.
we just have to try and use it.
when you pay RM2500,
you get a free lampeh and one of the cosmetic products.
and FYI, i got one lampeh zombie in my house now.
and this is the SECOND time he is trying to get me in again.
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QUOTE(zhinsara @ Apr 5 2008, 03:47 AM)
LOL.
i attended the seminar, not really a seminar.
more like meeting some higher rank fella.
the way he sell it to me,
and the point i got it was,
i pay RM2500 and get 5 of my dumb and rich friends who can fork out RM2500 as well.
i get my first income by them.
RM125 per person = RM625.
it is actually more like,
hey give me RM125 and i won't return it to you forever.
and then,
this fella goes all the way about we don't have to sell the lampeh.
we just have to try and use it.
when you pay RM2500,
you get a free lampeh and one of the cosmetic products.
and FYI, i got one lampeh zombie in my house now.
and this is the SECOND time he is trying to get me in again.

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Well,...he become Lampa zombie bcos he "smells the LAMP"

IF U SMELL,WHAT STEVEN YEAM IS SELLING!!!!

Better kill tat Lampa ppl instead! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(chatwarrior @ Apr 5 2008, 01:48 AM)
I don't feel asking here is a waste of time.

Why should I know who/what is SYN ?

Whether you are a supporter or against them, voice your opinions.
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Hello friend, this is a forum to warn ppl and educate ppl to stay away form Lamb Burger lah...If you really don't know about them, this is a good place to start learning about their dirty tactics...And if you're one of them and want to sing praises and get ppl to join the dark side, go play far far away!!! drool.gif

Kudo to Bernard!!! And this forum has gone to the V3 already!!...That also means that those ruckus are still around.... rclxub.gif

By the way, today Sin Chew mentioned that Bank Negara Malaysia is to Investigate Mercantile Point Sdn Bhd and Sunshine Empire Sdn Bhd....Let hope some of the ppl here can alert BNM to investigate SYN as well and bungkus all of them!!! Yeah!! drool.gif

this is the link to the news: http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=8&pg=14&ac=1604&print=1


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QUOTE(zhinsara @ Apr 5 2008, 03:47 AM)
LOL.
i attended the seminar, not really a seminar.
more like meeting some higher rank fella.
the way he sell it to me,
and the point i got it was,
i pay RM2500 and get 5 of my dumb and rich friends who can fork out RM2500 as well.
i get my first income by them.
RM125 per person = RM625.
it is actually more like,
hey give me RM125 and i won't return it to you forever.
and then,
this fella goes all the way about we don't have to sell the lampeh.
we just have to try and use it.
when you pay RM2500,
you get a free lampeh and one of the cosmetic products.
and FYI, i got one lampeh zombie in my house now.
and this is the SECOND time he is trying to get me in again.
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Correction U dont get a free LAMPEH & some CHINA REPACKED OEM COSMETIC.
You are actually paying RM 2500 for those overpriced stuff, the real thing cost much cheaper on Ebay.

THat's their first trick.

So u are actually getting nothing out of it.

Good thing u din join hehe
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QUOTE(chatwarrior @ Apr 2 2008, 07:33 PM)
No time to read all your links. Care to explain why you think they are scammers in your OP ? They are over 100 years !! Can scam last so long ?
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Wrong the REAL LAMPE BERGER is over 100 years old, not the MLM that's selling it here.
And the real Lampe Berger doesnt operate by recruiting members.

The MLM is only like a few years old here.

If your not bothered to read, then why do we even bother answering u?

This post has been edited by andriel: Apr 6 2008, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(chatwarrior @ Apr 6 2008, 11:42 AM)
To you and some of you above who try to accuse me of supporting Lampe Berger or what ??

I am just asking the OP because I felt that the OP's info is not enough and not so convincing, anything wrong ?

By the way, if you guys think I am wrong, you are wrong too:

I found out the followings:
The people promoting Lampe Berger here are REAL LAMPE BERGER too and they NEVER claim their MLM is over 100 years old.

LAMPE BERGER never claimed to be an aromatherapy products like the MLM did. I searched the factory websites and many foreign sellers, they are just fragrance products !!

Such simple facts, you people can overlooked and try to fight them here. No wonder they still have supporters.
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lol...... how come this company still can be operated since the SC already black listed them/? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(outsider @ Apr 6 2008, 01:12 PM)
lol...... how come this company still can be operated since the SC already black listed them/? unsure.gif
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i hv a story of my own..regarding to this company as well

i was con (not money but time)..
at one point of time last year i was looking for a job and registered to jobstreet.com
one day a guy called me up and telling me they have a vacancy n asking me to come
to HLA Building in KL..i was quite excited since job opportunity hard to come by
wore by best suit..updated & compiled nicely my cv and off there..
to make it worse..it was rainy day in KL and u know bad the traffic is..
went there..made a call to the guy and suddenly i realized there it is..LampB HQ
and the guy asked me to come in n meet him there..
i still hv some hope since ive came ere in the rain that its not another MLM talk

apparently it was... cry.gif
i was scammed by saying they hv a job opportunity for me and its to be with LB!
and im so pissed with Jobstreet for releasing my contact n personel info to LB
i sat for 10 minutes listening to him and straight off saying im sorry not interested
i could hv scream kick punch to him yet i know somehow he was scammed in as well
and looking for someone to recruit..nevertheless i was so damn pissed..

so friends out there..be careful even with Jobstreets.com
they do release your info to anyone who would pay/cheat em to get to it..
many of my friends are in LB and as mentioned mostly students/just graduated
its simple in life actually..u hv to work hard to earn good cash or if u dont hv to
then it could be scam/lawbreaking/con/watever it is..

this is a big lesson for me....ive banned LB & Jobstreet.com from my life..

cheers
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QUOTE(Corvinux @ Apr 6 2008, 12:26 PM)
i hv a story of my own..regarding to this company as well

i was con (not money but time)..
at one point of time last year i was looking for a job and registered to jobstreet.com
one day a guy called me up and telling me they have a vacancy n asking me to come
to HLA Building in KL..i was quite excited since job opportunity hard to come by
wore by best suit..updated & compiled nicely my cv and off there..
to make it worse..it was rainy day in KL and u know bad the traffic is..
went there..made a call to the guy and suddenly i realized there it is..LampB HQ
and the guy asked me to come in n meet him there..
i still hv some hope since ive came ere in the rain that its not another MLM talk

apparently it was... cry.gif
i was scammed by saying they hv a job opportunity for me and its to be with LB!
and im so pissed with Jobstreet for releasing my contact n personel info to LB
i sat for 10 minutes listening to him and straight off saying im sorry not interested
i could hv scream kick punch to him yet i know somehow he was scammed in as well
and looking for someone to recruit..nevertheless i was so damn pissed..

so friends out there..be careful even with Jobstreets.com
they do release your info to anyone who would pay/cheat em to get to it..
many of my friends are in LB and as mentioned mostly students/just graduated
its simple in life actually..u hv to work hard to earn good cash or if u dont hv to
then it could be scam/lawbreaking/con/watever it is..

this is a big lesson for me....ive banned LB & Jobstreet.com from my life..

cheers
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Actually it is not Jobstreet released the info to them. It is that the LB registered as an employers and he has the right to view any resume published and from there they can catch the water fish.

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QUOTE(Corvinux @ Apr 6 2008, 12:26 PM)
i hv a story of my own..regarding to this company as well

i was con (not money but time)..
at one point of time last year i was looking for a job and registered to jobstreet.com
one day a guy called me up and telling me they have a vacancy n asking me to come
to HLA Building in KL..i was quite excited since job opportunity hard to come by
wore by best suit..updated & compiled nicely my cv and off there..
to make it worse..it was rainy day in KL and u know bad the traffic is..
went there..made a call to the guy and suddenly i realized there it is..LampB HQ
and the guy asked me to come in n meet him there..
i still hv some hope since ive came ere in the rain that its not another MLM talk

apparently it was... cry.gif
i was scammed by saying they hv a job opportunity for me and its to be with LB!
and im so pissed with Jobstreet for releasing my contact n personel info to LB
i sat for 10 minutes listening to him and straight off saying im sorry not interested
i could hv scream kick punch to him yet i know somehow he was scammed in as well
and looking for someone to recruit..nevertheless i was so damn pissed..

so friends out there..be careful even with Jobstreets.com
they do release your info to anyone who would pay/cheat em to get to it..
many of my friends are in LB and as mentioned mostly students/just graduated
its simple in life actually..u hv to work hard to earn good cash or if u dont hv to
then it could be scam/lawbreaking/con/watever it is..

this is a big lesson for me....ive banned LB & Jobstreet.com from my life..

cheers
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wow! this Lampa burger starts to recruit ppl by using Jobstreet? wat is the job position they offer?
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QUOTE(Tamiya @ Apr 6 2008, 05:06 PM)
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I thought is Marketing CONsultant?
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QUOTE(chatwarrior @ Apr 6 2008, 11:42 AM)
To you and some of you above who try to accuse me of supporting Lampe Berger or what ??

I am just asking the OP because I felt that the OP's info is not enough and not so convincing, anything wrong ?

By the way, if you guys think I am wrong, you are wrong too:

I found out the followings:
The people promoting Lampe Berger here are REAL LAMPE BERGER too and they NEVER claim their MLM is over 100 years old.

LAMPE BERGER never claimed to be an aromatherapy products like the MLM did. I searched the factory websites and many foreign sellers, they are just fragrance products !!

Such simple facts, you people can overlooked and try to fight them here. No wonder they still have supporters.
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well, since you are new here. You should know that in this forum we use the words 'lampeberger', 'lampaberger', 'lb' or whatsoever to refer to the MLM company and sometimes to refer the lampe berger itself, that is why you must read tu understand. Read the whole thing first, then you'll know whats goin on. Don't just jump in and accuse ppl "Damn, you're wrong". You wanna be lampa ar? doh.gif . by the way when we say they claim to be more than 100 years, we are talking about the french lampa, been around so long still no one knows ar? very good ar?

Once, I heard they claim Singaporean Hospital were doing them free advertisement because the lampa help control the spread of SARS. What else after this? If you drink lampa oil from lampa bottle you can cure AIDS ar? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(chatwarrior @ Apr 7 2008, 01:44 AM)
Malaysia Boleh !! Apa pun boleh !!
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如果你有信心可以唔洗人幫....又成世都可以不停搵到朋友上去比$80000入會買ACC
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i'm new here, what an interesting thread!

i've heard tons of such stories and have been called by friends around me for this matter. it's so sad so see them fall into this crap. sad.gif

now now, one of my old friend that we haven't meet in like 7 years going to call me out to "discuss" something (that's too obvious i'm afraid, normally old friends will call out for yum cha cause long time no see but now "discuss" something). i'm going to limit my time frame for the talk, if no lampa then we should go on chit chatting. brows.gif
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have u guys heard that banks approve personal loans for this things?? (to become count) is it true?? is it legal??
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sigh.. i had even fought with my friends cuz of this.. hope this company wil close down.
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have u guys heard that banks approve personal loans for this things?? (to become count) is it true?? is it legal??
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QUOTE(psyntium @ Apr 13 2008, 02:02 AM)
have u guys heard that banks approve personal loans for this things?? (to become count) is it true?? is it legal??
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Bank don't really care nuts about how you use your personal loans...as long as you fits the requirments (steady income, pay income tax, not black listed...)

But then again...If you want to borrow 40K from bank, you might as well use the money to enjoy yourself!! drool.gif Treat your GF a nice holiday...Or pimp up your car...."invest" in LB is like buying yourself a very expensive coffin!!

I can tell you that a lot of those so called fulltime LB can't even get any loans from banks....That's why they are getting the "LOAN" from YOU!!!!! rclxub.gif


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hello guys, im new in here..

i've read this thread in 2days, dari v.1 - this latest wan..

my 2 fren oso ade join bende nih, n die punye excited to be lampeh sampai nak trade his Toyota SEG (red/yellow tail lamp) wooo!!! i told him, u tak sayang kreta ke, tiap2 tahun bayar sampai habis payment, convert to Levin Twin cam 20 oso, then nak jual in 25-28k!!!??? he oso trying to trapped me in this biz, pegi to HLA building, i've told him i oso join MLM, it's e-dymium (AF6 sponsor) and trying to racun him oso! laugh.gif

i've oredi tell them, don put ur neck on Steven Yeam chopping board and ask him to read this forum from v.1.... mad.gif

ok,this is bad news for me..

yesterday, my dad calling me, he tell me that ............ his upline is my auntie.. n i was DAMN!!! vmad.gif and he trying to racun my 2 bro's oso... he' oredy attend the seminar at Pelangi, JB 3x rclxms.gif

i think it was too late to tell them about this, just let them die.... cry.gif i was live in Kajang, and my dad at JB. he started at 2500 and planning to 'upcost' and became more richer laa konon!!~ shakehead.gif

this friday 18 Apr, my dad n my 2 bro's will be back to Kajang, and trying to racun me to HLA. (their never datang sane, but i've been twice oredi!) n i'll runaway from my home frm sat-sun, reason: KERJA hmm.gif (actually tryin to escape to my GF house @ Damansara Damai.. icon_idea.gif rclxm9.gif


n now wat i think is, IF their getting RICHER for next few month, i will trying to tumpang kaki! drool.gif but if their DOWN with their biz, whistling.gif ....



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QUOTE(musicfactory @ Apr 14 2008, 02:38 AM)
Bank don't really care nuts about how you use your personal loans...as long as you fits the requirments (steady income, pay income tax, not black listed...)

But then again...If you want to borrow 40K from bank, you might as well use the money to enjoy yourself!!  drool.gif  Treat your GF a nice holiday...Or pimp up your car...."invest" in LB is like buying yourself a very expensive coffin!!
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Heres my personal experience hehe...

Well last time I went to one of the seminar in lampe berger old HQ not the HLA (cant remember) back in 2003 I think and that time I saw no Malay at all just a group of Datins looking aunties...

And the barons tat tried to brainwashed me said its a good opportunity for me since theres very few Malays who join LB and I could be one of the early bird...(yeah right, early bird to bring more Malay into scamming)...

Then I went home and asked my dad about LB, he said one of his colleague had already approached him long time ago and he refused to join simply because he is too busy and advised me not to...

Well I heed his advice and didn't join...and in between 2005 If I was not mistaken, I found more anti LB sites and blogs...after some readings I'm really glad I didn't joined hehe...

and last year one of my friend asked me to meet up in one of the restaurant near Jalan Gurney...and to my amazement that restaurant was full of Malays who already joined...

When she started to intro she said something about lamp...I straight ask her...is it LB??...and she was surprised and answered yes...I scoffed and tell her I knew LB long before her...and one of her upline came by and tried to tell stories with me and I asked him did he know the OLD office?? and he replied never know...so I too told him I know it long before he got to know LB so dun preach me...

So now this is very-very alarming since LB had penetrated Malay market and I heard it started in JB...haihz...

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When she started to intro she said something about lamp...I straight ask her...is it LB??...and she was surprised and answered yes...I scoffed and tell her I knew LB long before her...and one of her upline came by and tried to tell stories with me and I asked him did he know the OLD office?? and he replied never know...so I too told him I know it long before he got to know LB so dun preach me...

So now this is very-very alarming since LB had penetrated Malay market and I heard it started in JB...haihz...
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hmmmm maybe this is a repost but anyway ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kNbqzSj0W4



beh tahan man hahaha...

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QUOTE(a_yu_volution @ Apr 14 2008, 03:41 PM)
Heres my personal experience hehe...

Well last time I went to one of the seminar in lampe berger old HQ not the HLA (cant remember) back in 2003 I think and that time I saw no Malay at all just a group of Datins looking aunties...

And the barons tat tried to brainwashed me said its a good opportunity for me since theres very few Malays who join LB and I could be one of the early bird...(yeah right, early bird to bring more Malay into scamming)...

Then I went home and asked my dad about LB, he said one of his colleague had already approached him long time ago and he refused to join simply because he is too busy and advised me not to...

Well I heed his advice and didn't join...and in between 2005 If I was not mistaken, I found more anti LB sites and blogs...after some readings I'm really glad I didn't joined hehe...

and last year one of my friend asked me to meet up in one of the restaurant near Jalan Gurney...and to my amazement that restaurant was full of Malays who already joined...

When she started to intro she said something about lamp...I straight ask her...is it LB??...and she was surprised and answered yes...I scoffed and tell her I knew LB long before her...and one of her upline came by and tried to tell stories with me and I asked him did he know the OLD office?? and he replied never know...so I too told him I know it long before he got to know LB so dun preach me...

So now this is very-very alarming since LB had penetrated Malay market and I heard it started in JB...haihz...
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is one of LB tactic....use an army of Lampa ppl to CONvince non-lampa ppl! Mostly non-lampa ppl will CONvert to become lampa ppl when this kinda situation happens.

Just like in Art of WAR, if u cant defeat the enemy...join the enemy.When the place is all lampa ppl together,is easy for them to CONvince non-lampa ppl.

My advice,dun ever go their Base...if they wanna talk some business...business can talk in anywhere,anytime,anyhow...wat for need to go their LAMPA base?
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yeah, those failed ppl who don`t even try sure have many negatives, i`ve heard of it, as long as im doing good, i don`t have to listen what other ppl said, many ppl success there, n there`s also failure, just because the money they invested, n the lazy pigs just sit down n wait for money, thats what make them negative now, n now wat ? spread to the whole world

if LB is a scam, it won`t exist until now, LB has history of 100+ years, in 11 countries, there`s also a street name called Lampe Berger street in France, only Malaysia ppl think its scam, thx to those Skim Cepat Kaya n so on...thats stupid ppl who thinks its really cepat kaya, dchl is a company DUDE, A HUGE company, u only heard the ppl failed here typing in forum, talking how they fail, how much they get cheated, y ? because the success once already exploring the world, owning sport cars, earning 5 digits income per month, earning another extra half million income twice a year, they dun even care what ppl say

they already enjoying their lives n don`t even want to care abt those negative news, n that makes the negatives more n more, but who cares ? ppl likes to listen to news, likes gossips, wants to work for the rest of the live, don`t want to get any chance in their live, don`t wanna give a try, then well, just work forever, earning 1k per month, maybe more...loaning banks, but nvm, since they prefer it, they chose their way, n all the advice n suggestions given by ppl who failed, sitting in forum chatting, nothing to do, they prefer talking then actions

its a GREAT feeling looking at my partners success, paying cash for the ferrari, LV bags, cool sport shoes, enjoying moments of live, going all over the countries, nvm, they enjoyed, who give a damn if other ppl don`t wanna try, u want to spread, just spread, spread until u get enuf smile.gif nvm, every ppl born sure have to get pass this level, but some ppl success, y ?

COZ THEY DONT GIVE A DAMN WHAT PPL SAY !

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doh.gif i no see your point....and whats your position btw? hmmm?

and the point here is the way you recruit. totally unethical and falling right into the mold of a ponzi+pyramid scheme. refute me if you can.
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QUOTE(keithdcmw @ Apr 16 2008, 03:06 PM)
yeah, those failed ppl who don`t even try sure have many negatives, i`ve heard of it, as long as im doing good, i don`t have to listen what other ppl said, many ppl success there, n there`s also failure, just because the money they invested, n the lazy pigs just sit down n wait for money, thats what make them negative now, n now wat ? spread to the whole world

if LB is a scam, it won`t exist until now, LB has history of 100+ years, in 11 countries, there`s also a street name called Lampe Berger street in France, only Malaysia ppl think its scam, thx to those Skim Cepat Kaya n so on...thats stupid ppl who thinks its really cepat kaya, dchl is a company DUDE, A HUGE company, u only heard the ppl failed here typing in forum, talking how they fail, how much they get cheated, y ? because the success once already exploring the world, owning sport cars, earning 5 digits income per month, earning another extra half million income twice a year, they dun even care what ppl say

they already enjoying their lives n don`t even want to care abt those negative news, n that makes the negatives more n more, but who cares ? ppl likes to listen to news, likes gossips, wants to work for the rest of the live, don`t want to get any chance in their live, don`t wanna give a try, then well, just work forever, earning 1k per month, maybe more...loaning banks, but nvm, since they prefer it, they chose their way, n all the advice n suggestions given by ppl who failed, sitting in forum chatting, nothing to do, they prefer talking then actions

its a GREAT feeling looking at my partners success, paying cash for the ferrari, LV bags, cool sport shoes, enjoying moments of live, going all over the countries, nvm, they enjoyed, who give a damn if other ppl don`t wanna try, u want to spread, just spread, spread until u get enuf smile.gif nvm, every ppl born sure have to get pass this level, but some ppl success, y ?

COZ THEY DONT GIVE A DAMN WHAT PPL SAY !
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is LB sold the same way in France as it is sold here in Malaysia?? or only the SYN making it into a network marketing??
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no. it is sold via the regular retail channels and is drastically cheaper.
and the official site does not have any of the claims that DCHL/syn has, eg, aromatherapy. the lamp is a perfume lamp, nothing more.

SYN/DCHL is using LB as a front.
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QUOTE(keithdcmw @ Apr 16 2008, 03:06 PM)
yeah, those failed ppl who don`t even try sure have many negatives, i`ve heard of it, as long as im doing good, i don`t have to listen what other ppl said, many ppl success there, n there`s also failure, just because the money they invested, n the lazy pigs just sit down n wait for money, thats what make them negative now, n now wat ? spread to the whole world

if LB is a scam, it won`t exist until now, LB has history of 100+ years, in 11 countries, there`s also a street name called Lampe Berger street in France, only Malaysia ppl think its scam, thx to those Skim Cepat Kaya n so on...thats stupid ppl who thinks its really cepat kaya, dchl is a company DUDE, A HUGE company, u only heard the ppl failed here typing in forum, talking how they fail, how much they get cheated, y ? because the success once already exploring the world, owning sport cars, earning 5 digits income per month, earning another extra half million income twice a year, they dun even care what ppl say

they already enjoying their lives n don`t even want to care abt those negative news, n that makes the negatives more n more, but who cares ? ppl likes to listen to news, likes gossips, wants to work for the rest of the live, don`t want to get any chance in their live, don`t wanna give a try, then well, just work forever, earning 1k per month, maybe more...loaning banks, but nvm, since they prefer it, they chose their way, n all the advice n suggestions given by ppl who failed, sitting in forum chatting, nothing to do, they prefer talking then actions

its a GREAT feeling looking at my partners success, paying cash for the ferrari, LV bags, cool sport shoes, enjoying moments of live, going all over the countries, nvm, they enjoyed, who give a damn if other ppl don`t wanna try, u want to spread, just spread, spread until u get enuf smile.gif nvm, every ppl born sure have to get pass this level, but some ppl success, y ?

COZ THEY DONT GIVE A DAMN WHAT PPL SAY !
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HOLD IT right there Mr.Steven Yeam's slave....let me tell u sumthing based on ur explainations!

In ur 1st paragraph, u mention many ppl success in LB but can u tell me the percentage of ppl who success and fail? I believe those fail is more than 70%

2nd paragraph,base on wat u say....do u know tat how much Steven Yeam spend to bribe our Malaysian government including MCA to stop them to close down DCHL/ SYN in malaysia?

3rd paragraph,u mention a lot of ppl alrady enjoy their life....fine,but do u know where are the money come from? is from those who fail which is already been CON to join LB! To make a person success,he/she need to CON many ppl to make him/her to success.Wat a unethical way! If there is no ppl who join LB at the 1st place, I think Steven Yeam is just a normal working ppl. Dun forget tat Steven Yeam marry a rich woman in order to make him to start his SYN business.

4th, ur business partners who are they? can listed out their names here? I will check their names in fortune 500....u think they can buy 1 ferrari so wat? wanna be hell of the GREAT? my Idol David Beckham can buy more sport car than ur so called business partners.

Final word from me,if there is no one join LB right now....I will see how ur so called business partner survive with those ferrari....u can buy a ferrari but doesn't mean tat u can "feed" the car!
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QUOTE(zhinsara @ Apr 16 2008, 10:16 PM)
no. it is sold via the regular retail channels and is drastically cheaper.
and the official site does not have any of the claims that DCHL/syn has, eg, aromatherapy. the lamp is a perfume lamp, nothing more.

SYN/DCHL is using LB as a front.
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do u know where can i get price comparison?? maybe can use it as prove to show to others.. i only can view the on9 one.. but what about the ones sold by SYN/DCHL..
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do u know where can i get price comparison?? maybe can use it as prove to show to others.. i only can view the on9 one.. but what about the ones sold by SYN/DCHL..
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For the burner
http://www.lampebergerasia.com/product_lin...1&parent=-50010

For the perfume
http://www.lampebergerasia.com/product_lin...2&parent=-50001

Priced in USD i think
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QUOTE(keithdcmw @ Apr 16 2008, 03:06 PM)
yeah, those failed ppl who don`t even try sure have many negatives, i`ve heard of it, as long as im doing good, i don`t have to listen what other ppl said, many ppl success there, n there`s also failure, just because the money they invested, n the lazy pigs just sit down n wait for money, thats what make them negative now, n now wat ? spread to the whole world

if LB is a scam, it won`t exist until now, LB has history of 100+ years, in 11 countries, there`s also a street name called Lampe Berger street in France, only Malaysia ppl think its scam, thx to those Skim Cepat Kaya n so on...thats stupid ppl who thinks its really cepat kaya, dchl is a company DUDE, A HUGE company, u only heard the ppl failed here typing in forum, talking how they fail, how much they get cheated, y ? because the success once already exploring the world, owning sport cars, earning 5 digits income per month, earning another extra half million income twice a year, they dun even care what ppl say

they already enjoying their lives n don`t even want to care abt those negative news, n that makes the negatives more n more, but who cares ? ppl likes to listen to news, likes gossips, wants to work for the rest of the live, don`t want to get any chance in their live, don`t wanna give a try, then well, just work forever, earning 1k per month, maybe more...loaning banks, but nvm, since they prefer it, they chose their way, n all the advice n suggestions given by ppl who failed, sitting in forum chatting, nothing to do, they prefer talking then actions

its a GREAT feeling looking at my partners success, paying cash for the ferrari, LV bags, cool sport shoes, enjoying moments of live, going all over the countries, nvm, they enjoyed, who give a damn if other ppl don`t wanna try, u want to spread, just spread, spread until u get enuf smile.gif nvm, every ppl born sure have to get pass this level, but some ppl success, y ?

COZ THEY DONT GIVE A DAMN WHAT PPL SAY !
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yeah, those failed ppl who don`t even try sure have many negatives...
Its not failed people. They are smart, they know how to use internet to do research and know how to differentiate which is good and bad to them.

QUOTE(keithdcmw @ Apr 16 2008, 03:06 PM)
but some ppl success, y ?
Because they know they'll be some people who don't do research, and then they CON them, they are success because they CONNED you, but you failed because you failed to CON us.



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COZ THEY DONT GIVE A DAMN WHAT PPL SAY !
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Well your statement clearly says that "COZ THEY DONT GIVE A DAMN WHAT PPL SAY !" and thus why should you or they care of "WHAT PPL SAY !" because obviously "WE DONT GIVE A DAMN OF WHAT YOU PPL SAY !"

Since its an open forum so PPL CAN SAY ! what they want to say, and your side can say what you want to say so just let the people who read do their own judgment and let them choose either to get involve or not, at least they are aware of the way LB business is handle in Malaysia...to join or not to join is their call...its not ours nor yours...

True there are people who succeeded and there are people who failed, but without these people who failed, can you people stay success at your current level??...I don't think so because there is no fuel to burn thus no more flame...and the money these success people have collected then can be channeled to other business...same like drug money...or scam money...yes you guys worked hard...selling what??? lamp??? i don't think so...you sell promises that came out of your mouth and the people who bought it...well will try to sell more promises...oh ya don't reply to my babbling cause from what I heard...

u guys "DONT GIVE A DAMN WHAT PPL SAY !"

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watever u ppl say, im not gonna listen, coz there`s too many bunch of idiots here, i tell u 1 day if u open a company, u successed n i can tell u 100% u sure GET FLAMED by other company, y ? because humans forever jealous, nvm, i`ve see many ppl like u, don`t wanna invest, still talk a lot, duwan join talk so much cock, in future if i know what u did, i sure open another shop beside u n just letting ppl know what "actually" ur shop did, u guys didn`t even try n talk so much shits here, pretending to actually know everything, yeah, go on, no wonder the success partners din come to this kind of forum, there`s too many brains here that have been damaged, too many f***ing bastards that act they know everything, watever, just talk whatever u wan, yeah, n i hope u just work forever in ur life, earn income enuf to buy urself food, n if u have any sickness, sell ur house, sell ur car to cure urself, if not....just wait for urself n die, there`s nothing i can talk here, this is just a negative forum of LB, useless ppl r all here, haiz....
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a_yu_volution : i salute u man!

keithdcmw: If u think ur so called LB business is ethical,y u so fear when we say bad about it? there is a saying, BERANI KERANA BENAR,TAKUT KERANA SALAH!

I know LB ppl are TAKUT bcos they already do something SALAH!
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wait.... LB still around?? Those my friends that join LB also no sound liao... Last time boost here and there... well I dont see any BMW or Supercar drive infront of me anyway... lolz pigi la tu....
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QUOTE(keithdcmw @ Apr 17 2008, 11:00 AM)
watever u ppl say, im not gonna listen, coz there`s too many bunch of idiots here, i tell u 1 day if u open a company, u successed n i can tell u 100% u sure GET FLAMED by other company, y ? because humans forever jealous, nvm, i`ve see many ppl like u, don`t wanna invest, still talk a lot, duwan join talk so much cock, in future if i know what u did, i sure open another shop beside u n just letting ppl know what "actually" ur shop did, u guys didn`t even try n talk so much shits here, pretending to actually know everything, yeah, go on, no wonder the success partners din come to this kind of forum, there`s too many brains here that have been damaged, too many f***ing bastards that act they know everything, watever, just talk whatever u wan, yeah, n i hope u just work forever in ur life, earn income enuf to buy urself food, n if u have any sickness, sell ur house, sell ur car to cure urself, if not....just wait for urself n die, there`s nothing i can talk here, this is just a negative forum of LB, useless ppl r all here, haiz....
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watever u ppl say, im not gonna listen, coz there`s too many bunch of idiots here, i tell u 1 day if u open a company, u successed n i can tell u 100% u sure GET FLAMED by other company, y ? because humans forever jealous, nvm, i`ve see many ppl like u, don`t wanna invest, still talk a lot, duwan join talk so much cock, in future if i know what u did, i sure open another shop beside u n just letting ppl know what "actually" ur shop did, u guys didn`t even try n talk so much shits here, pretending to actually know everything, yeah, go on, no wonder the success partners din come to this kind of forum, there`s too many brains here that have been damaged, too many f***ing bastards that act they know everything, watever, just talk whatever u wan, yeah, n i hope u just work forever in ur life, earn income enuf to buy urself food, n if u have any sickness, sell ur house, sell ur car to cure urself, if not....just wait for urself n die, there`s nothing i can talk here, this is just a negative forum of LB, useless ppl r all here, haiz....
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Yeah rite! U r working ur A$$ off with steven yeam! U r a slave of Steven Yeam...sell false dreams,hopes and promises to those innocent ppl. When u pass the lampa lamps to those innocent ppl,u claim it that is their product tat they purchase!

When they comes for refund to quit the business,u guys will hide urself or hilang urself...or use the reason the RM2500 is u pay for the lampa lamp u get.U guys only know how to use tat Lampa lamp to cover urself!

I know wat are the tricks u guys DCHL,SYN doing....u guys failed to CONvince me as well...I nvr join LB but I met many LB ppl who been failed and CONNED! They share wif me with their experiences!
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QUOTE(Kelvinwkw @ Apr 17 2008, 01:26 AM)
Its not failed people. They are smart, they know how to use internet to do research and know how to differentiate which is good and bad to them.
Because they know they'll be some people who don't do research, and then they CON them, they are success because they CONNED you, but you failed because you failed to CON us.
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like me.. research dlu.. see - & +.. but now i see more -. if there's any +, + will infect - too, ur self/others. ..


QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ Apr 17 2008, 11:01 AM)
a_yu_volution : i salute u man!

keithdcmw: If u think ur so called LB business is ethical,y u so fear when we say bad about it? there is a saying, BERANI KERANA BENAR,TAKUT KERANA SALAH!

I know LB ppl are TAKUT bcos they already do something SALAH!
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dun trying to fooled ppl like us, after u has been fooled by syn.


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i like this thread, the flame is on!!!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(keithdcmw @ Apr 17 2008, 11:00 AM)
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yeah yeah. as a conclusion, lampa people will only talk good things about lampa, and talk like a lampa. notworthy.gif

see la if your most loved parents or gf/wife or even your kids in the future kena conned dun come here and cry hah. thumbup.gif brows.gif
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keith=flame bait. btw you haven't answered me. you can't answer gtfo.
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QUOTE(zhinsara @ Apr 17 2008, 03:19 PM)
keith=flame bait. btw you haven't answered me. you can't answer gtfo.
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well,...i wish tat he still here....this thread long time dun have Lampa ppl to debate wif us already.At least can make it interesting!
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btw, got this info from one of the ex-syn member

perviously most of the SYN members are almost 90% C race and recently when she went back to menara HLA, 90% of the members are M race.

Seems like they are changing their tactics by targeting young M, especially those still in campus.


Btw, there's nothing wrong with LB, the real culprit here is SYN/DCHL syndicate which actually give LB a very bad name, by spreading misleading and false information about it, and also mark up the price exorbitantly here.
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can i try to become lampa?? hehe.. (even if i'm not)
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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Apr 17 2008, 03:46 PM)
btw, got this info from one of the ex-syn member

perviously most of the SYN members are almost 90% C race and recently when she went back to menara HLA, 90% of the members are M race.

Seems like they are changing their tactics by targeting young M, especially those still in campus.
Btw, there's nothing wrong with LB, the real culprit here is SYN/DCHL syndicate which actually give LB a very bad name, by spreading misleading and false information about it, and also mark up the price exorbitantly here.
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previously.. SYN only target chinese.. as they want chinese to have this business.. so they claim.. but until already dah tepu.. they need to start to recruit malays.. and in the future.. go to india i think..
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anyway, just ignore that keith lar...

there's no point to argue with a brainwashed SYN zombie


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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Apr 17 2008, 03:48 PM)
anyway, just ignore that keith lar...

there's no point to argue with a brainwashed SYN zombie
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cannot maa.. keith is our 'prospect' for this thread.. laugh.gif
tat's the point b3rnard7 create this thread til ver. III
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hi keith,

i think today is my luckiest day to see you here. I want to be rich!!
i am interested on this business. Can we have a yum cha session? Waiting for your pm.

thanks.
ps: i do not give a damn what ppl said, except you.


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QUOTE(Ahlok @ Apr 17 2008, 04:35 PM)
hi keith,

i think today is my luckiest day to see you here. I want to be rich!!
i am interested on this business. Can we have a yum cha session? Waiting for your pm.

thanks.
ps: i do not give a damn what ppl said, except you.
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Apr 17 2008, 11:41 AM)
i like this thread, the flame is on!!!!!!!!!!!
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yeap....in before the flame is out... laugh.gif

QUOTE(greyshadow @ Apr 17 2008, 03:48 PM)
anyway, just ignore that keith lar...

there's no point to argue with a brainwashed SYN zombie
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dude...u juz can't so fast give up hope do ya? for some reason this thread exist is to help ppl like em....to wake up!!!!
keith wake up man...there is hope for u....fast fast go ask for refund ( if u still can la laugh.gif ) then get a proper job, doesn't have to be buka shop selling lamps or sendiri business....whats wrong wif makan gaji? if everyone in malaysia all buat business sendiri apa macam la... doh.gif
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heck, even my friend who did SYN went job hunting just 2 days ago.
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QUOTE(zhinsara @ Apr 17 2008, 05:03 PM)
heck, even my friend who did SYN went job hunting just 2 days ago.
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hahaaa... finally their looking for their life skills..

hmm.gif i would like to knoe all lampa's outhere, how long u've been in syn, how much ur income /month?
must be interesting then.. aahhh, c'mon share with us.. show off ur self..dun just tell about ur frend want to by ferrari, 7sries, RX8, even RX-Z... bla bla bla...
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QUOTE(mufflerash @ Apr 17 2008, 05:13 PM)
hahaaa... finally their looking for their life skills..

hmm.gif i would like to knoe all lampa's outhere, how long u've been in syn, how much ur income /month?
must be interesting then.. aahhh, c'mon share with us.. show off ur self..dun just tell about ur frend want to by ferrari, 7sries, RX8, even RX-Z... bla bla bla...
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Well,...I can rent a Mercedes Benz and tell those LB ppl is belong to me...can ar?

FYI,those lampa ppl drive benz/BMW are shared among a few MONKEY or CLOWN....each of them take turn to use tat car to meet their so called prospects! This is true! a ex-SYN ppl told me tat!
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2 of my friend darely dumping their RM36k for the start...what the bloody hell they are thinking..right now almost 6 times they asked me to take a look at they office at HLA near to Pavilion....

Of coz i already been in the HLA for 3 times,but hell no i'll join them..what i just saw in the HLA is a bunch of rubbish jerk looking for the quick money by scamming they own friend and family..

Synners a.k.a Sinners...could you all use your brain that gave by the God think again about this business...are you proud became rich or owned a BMW by taking others people money?

Tradition of business is product on the first place..not the joining fee..


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ahaa! so tat's funny! acting lebih laaa...?? haha


keith, how long u've been in syn?
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QUOTE(helangkawi @ Apr 17 2008, 05:45 PM)
2 of my friend darely dumping their RM36k for the start...what the bloody hell they are thinking..right now almost 6 times they asked me to take a look at they office at HLA near to Pavilion....

Of coz i already been in the HLA for 3 times,but hell no i'll join them..what i just saw in the HLA is a bunch of rubbish jerk looking for the quick money by scamming they own friend and family..

Synners a.k.a Sinners...could you all use your brain that gave by the God think again about this business...are you proud became rich or owned a BMW by taking others people money?

Tradition of business is product on the first place..not the joining fee..
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Menara HLA is known as TOWER OF DEATH!  nod.gif
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QUOTE(helangkawi @ Apr 17 2008, 05:53 PM)
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hmm.. u know what..
since malaysian are in the mood of protesting.. y not.. protest in front of HLA..
anyone here want to start.. hehe.. (me pndi je bg cadangan.. buatnye.. hmm.. sng ckp.. buat susah.. haha..)

and.. by the way.. are HLA people allowed to gather that much?? can it be called perhimpunan haram??
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QUOTE(keithdcmw @ Apr 17 2008, 11:00 AM)
watever u ppl say, im not gonna listen, coz there`s too many bunch of idiots here, i tell u 1 day if u open a company, u successed n i can tell u 100% u sure GET FLAMED by other company, y ? because humans forever jealous, nvm, i`ve see many ppl like u, don`t wanna invest, still talk a lot, duwan join talk so much cock, in future if i know what u did, i sure open another shop beside u n just letting ppl know what "actually" ur shop did, u guys didn`t even try n talk so much shits here, pretending to actually know everything, yeah, go on, no wonder the success partners din come to this kind of forum, there`s too many brains here that have been damaged, too many f***ing bastards that act they know everything, watever, just talk whatever u wan, yeah, n i hope u just work forever in ur life, earn income enuf to buy urself food, n if u have any sickness, sell ur house, sell ur car to cure urself, if not....just wait for urself n die, there`s nothing i can talk here, this is just a negative forum of LB, useless ppl r all here, haiz....
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you enjoying so called "profit" now, that's why you running your mouth so big here cuz your brainwash by them already.

you called us useless?
I tell you, useless people won't online, useless people are people who conned other people to join their business and take away their hard earned saving..a very good example is people like you guys whistling.gif

everyone here work, earned ourselves living and saving, not like u guys trying to earn RM5, but wanna live like RM5,000 people. Every month have to act like you guys are damn successful and earn damn alot but actually the other way round
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they call it.. "think positive" i think..
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thinking positive the syn way means pulling money out of your downlines bums.
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this is madness...

think positive is pretend in front of your friends,your makcik,your pakcin,your cousin you are real rich yawn.gif
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QUOTE(helangkawi @ Apr 17 2008, 08:42 PM)
this is madness...

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QUOTE(a_yu_volution @ Apr 17 2008, 07:12 PM)
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yeah, we just want some LB people here to spice up the thread. It won't be fun just few of us discussing here.
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hey....the product codes of their lampe berger products never seem to check out online. and they look made in China. Maybe we can get them on selling pirated items,undermining public trust and fraud. what do the lawyers call it these again? it would be easier to nab them on this charge than the pyramid scheme.just need some rep from the real company to come here to testify.

now....owning a real lampe berger lamp is in my 100 things to get..damn do they look good or what. so chic, so modern , so exquisite, so cool.....and so expensive.


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QUOTE(helangkawi @ Apr 17 2008, 05:45 PM)
2 of my friend darely dumping their RM36k for the start...what the bloody hell they are thinking..right now almost 6 times they asked me to take a look at they office at HLA near to Pavilion....

Of coz i already been in the HLA for 3 times,but hell no i'll join them..what i just saw in the HLA is a bunch of rubbish jerk looking for the quick money by scamming they own friend and family..

Synners a.k.a Sinners...could you all use your brain that gave by the God think again about this business...are you proud became rich or owned a BMW by taking others people money?

Tradition of business is product on the first place..not the joining fee..
peace out
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Nescafe Kick Start winners get RM30,000. Enough to open a shop to do business, and grow to become rich.

Unfortunately, SYNers just dump this 30K money just to join membership, and a whole load of crappy lamps which nobody wants. RM30K is a lot to jumpstart a business for aspiring entrepreneurs. Sadly, SYNers don't see it
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haha..stakat lamps bodoh macam tu sampai $k+++. Heh!! xpayah la.. ingat smua org nak sangat ke?? dah la guna barang org buat bisnes! tak malu ke??? tu pun belum tentu original.

IF i want buy 1 la kan, i'll buy directly online from lampeberger.com. IF i want la..

no need to buy it from SYNers. Loser Buddy~
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they dunno what is call being prudent......btw any LB members who is desperate need $$$ wanna sell some of the lamps at cheap price to me? i've been asking for it but previous 1 the deal was not good....too expensive liao dowan 2 buy... tongue.gif
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haihhh...
that lamp thingy is actually a pretty neat stuff..
but all these stupid wanna get rich fast DCHL bastards give it bad names..

and i cant seem to find estebel or ed pinaud on any web page..
all i get from the search engine is antilampa blogs and forums.. rclxms.gif
kinda weird for a product that is over decade years old .. hmm.gif
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i doubt how these SYN members brain wash those victims to invest RM30k......these victims wiling to quit their job as engineers & etc, swipe 7 credit cards, help this victims for bank loan, borrow from relation.....
but somehow steven yeam is earning big money....
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i doubt how these SYN members brain wash those victims to invest RM30k......these victims wiling to quit their job as engineers & etc, swipe 7 credit cards, help this victims for bank loan, borrow from relation.....
but somehow steven yeam is earning big money....
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Well,....this is their dark side! Most ppl kena CON are those school leavers,fresh graduates!
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Well,....this is their dark side! Most ppl kena CON are those school leavers,fresh graduates!
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Why not lets make a lamper burger ? I think yeam dont even dare to sue us ...LOL
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Apr 18 2008, 05:58 PM)
Why not lets make a lamper burger ? I think yeam dont even dare to sue us ...LOL
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lampa burger versus ramli burger.

difference is, lampa burger got aroma sh!ts and lampa stuffing inside. pay rm2500 and you get a bunch, and become a member. wink.gif
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hmm.gif i've been to their office once, and yeah, it seems 'nice' and all.
One thing though, the aromatherapy thing is really good and effective for me. But the only issue is the damn high price.

And yeah, their 'business' plan do sound like a scam. Raises a whole lot of questions, as to where all these money come from?

***from your downline's pocket.

Niamah wan..
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Apr 18 2008, 11:38 PM)
u just gimme an idea to be rich!!!.....create a fast food chain selling burgers  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Apr 18 2008, 11:55 PM)
hmm.gif i've been to their office once, and yeah, it seems 'nice' and all.
One thing though, the aromatherapy thing is really good and effective for me. But the only issue is the damn high price.

And yeah, their 'business' plan do sound like a scam. Raises a whole lot of questions, as to where all these money come from?

***from your downline's pocket.

Niamah wan..
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THIS IS SPARTA LAMPA!!!!!!
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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ Apr 19 2008, 07:09 AM)
Wanna sell Lamb Burgers?  drool.gif
hei good idea man......i was thinking bout pork burgers but then lamb burgers sounds more like LB drool.gif
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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ Apr 19 2008, 07:09 AM)
Wanna sell Lamb Burgers?  drool.gif

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SYN? whistling.gif
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Going back to topic of this scam, I am wondering if Amway and Cosway sales organization is any different. May I even add nu-skin?
I mean they make money from:
1) Recruiment
2) Overcharging for their products(supplements, lamps, cosmetics,etc)
3) Give you a hokey tale of how their products is the best in the world and how its health benefits has backing of scientific community,etc.
But these orgs like LB are registered as legal busnieses. Shouldnt the govt know how detrimental this can be?

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Going back to topic of this scam, I am wondering if Amway and Cosway sales organization is any different. May I even add nu-skin?
I mean they make money from:
1) Recruiment
2) Overcharging for their products(supplements, lamps, cosmetics,etc)
3) Give you a hokey tale of how their products is the best in the world and how its health benefits has backing of scientific community,etc.
But these orgs like LB are registered as legal busnieses. Shouldnt the govt know how detrimental this can be?
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my brother join SYN since last year.until now i din c any result.wat i can c him now is lack of money.he ask 4 money from my mother every day b4 go to work or even b4 dat crap LB meeting.last thing i heard was he'd asking my dad to make 25k loan frm bank.i was shocked!dats quiet a moneyn im wondering now wats the 25k is for!
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my brother join SYN since last year.until now i din c any result.wat i can c him now is lack of money.he ask 4 money from my mother every day b4 go to work or even b4 dat crap LB meeting.last thing i heard was he'd asking my dad to make 25k loan frm bank.i was shocked!dats quiet a moneyn im wondering now wats the 25k is for!
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QUOTE(suiexione @ Apr 19 2008, 06:59 PM)
my brother join SYN since last year.until now i din c any result.wat i can c him now is lack of money.he ask 4 money from my mother every day b4 go to work or even b4 dat crap LB meeting.last thing i heard was he'd asking my dad to make 25k loan frm bank.i was shocked!dats quiet a moneyn im wondering now wats the 25k is for!
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watever u ppl say, im not gonna listen, coz there`s too many bunch of idiots here, i tell u 1 day if u open a company, u successed n i can tell u 100% u sure GET FLAMED by other company, y ? because humans forever jealous, nvm, i`ve see many ppl like u, don`t wanna invest, still talk a lot, duwan join talk so much cock, in future if i know what u did, i sure open another shop beside u n just letting ppl know what "actually" ur shop did, u guys didn`t even try n talk so much shits here, pretending to actually know everything, yeah, go on, no wonder the success partners din come to this kind of forum, there`s too many brains here that have been damaged, too many f***ing bastards that act they know everything, watever, just talk whatever u wan, yeah, n i hope u just work forever in ur life, earn income enuf to buy urself food, n if u have any sickness, sell ur house, sell ur car to cure urself, if not....just wait for urself n die, there`s nothing i can talk here, this is just a negative forum of LB, useless ppl r all here, haiz....
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Hey!! Keith!!! I understand how you feel 100% Man!!! Must be real pissed when you earn big bucks and ppl thought you're a gigolo!! brows.gif

I just thought of a solution!!! may be you can show us your income tax statement for the pass 2 years and perhaps your last 6 month bank statement as well? That will shut me up at least!! nod.gif

And Keith, since you have soooo much time F+++king us all over here, why don't you do a bit of research yourself and see whether your master Steven Yeam's statement make sense or not....

Firstly....buying over lampe berger....Please check this out....
http://www.axaprivateequity.com/gb/Mezzanine/art500.htm
If your DCHL is making so much money, then what is 11 million pounds??? Thought you guys are making 5 million USD monthly....You guys can "sapu" LB yourself already...why let other company do it?

Secondly....Lenovo laptop that you guys claimed to sell soon for so long....this is VERY FUNNY....It is indeed owned by DCHL....But it's a company called Digital China Holding Limited!!!
http://www-07.ibm.com/lenovoinfo/ap/lenovo/pdf/announcement/E20040603-CCT.pdf
My thinking is Steven Yeam at one time must be so crazy and high after sniffing all the smell from the bottle and start thinking he can fool his downline!!! ha!!! This is like say the fashion house U2 trying to claim that they are the artist manangement company for the band U2!!! (Of course they never did, cause they don't sniff LB! Ha!)

Lastly, Keith...there is such a thing call insurance...if you are earning an income and thinking of starting a family, you must buy at least one policy for you and your family...so that you can have a peace of mind when one sick or die...no need to sell house or backside...that is only when you don't have insurance but YET and STILL drive a BMW or Ferrari and pumping petrol like crazy!!!!



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why is direct sales always has to do with sports car? don't have anything better to show? tongue.gif

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Going back to topic of this scam, I am wondering if Amway and Cosway sales organization is any different. May I even add nu-skin?
I mean they make money from:
1) Recruiment
2) Overcharging for their products(supplements, lamps, cosmetics,etc)
3) Give you a hokey tale of how their products is the best in the world and how its health benefits has backing of scientific community,etc.
But these orgs like LB are registered as legal busnieses. Shouldnt the govt know how detrimental this can be?
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i think the different is.. they are selling real products.. and which product you are saying that is overcharging?? so far.. what i know is the price.. maybe not the lowest.. but i think its competitive..correct me if i'm wrong..
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Hey!! Keith!!! I understand how you feel 100% Man!!! Must be real pissed when you earn big bucks and ppl thought you're a gigolo!!  brows.gif

I just thought of a solution!!! may be you can show us your income tax statement for the pass 2 years and perhaps your last 6 month bank statement as well? That will shut me up at least!!  nod.gif

And Keith, since you have soooo much time F+++king us all over here, why don't you do a bit of research yourself and see whether your master Steven Yeam's statement make sense or not....

Firstly....buying over lampe berger....Please check this out....
http://www.axaprivateequity.com/gb/Mezzanine/art500.htm
If your DCHL is making so much money, then what is 11 million pounds??? Thought you guys are making 5 million USD monthly....You guys can "sapu" LB yourself already...why let other company do it?

Secondly....Lenovo laptop that you guys claimed to sell soon for so long....this is VERY FUNNY....It is indeed owned by DCHL....But it's a company called Digital China Holding Limited!!!
http://www-07.ibm.com/lenovoinfo/ap/lenovo/pdf/announcement/E20040603-CCT.pdf
My thinking is Steven Yeam at one time must be so crazy and high after sniffing all the smell from the bottle and start thinking he can fool his downline!!! ha!!! This is like say the fashion house U2 trying to claim that they are the artist manangement company for the band U2!!! (Of course they never did, cause they don't sniff LB! Ha!)

Lastly, Keith...there is such a thing call insurance...if you are earning an income and thinking of starting a family, you must buy at least one policy for you and your family...so that you can have a peace of mind when one sick or die...no need to sell house or backside...that is only when you don't have insurance but YET and STILL drive a BMW or Ferrari and pumping petrol like crazy!!!!
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Keith: IF U SMELL WHAT STEVEN YEAM IS COOKING SELLING doh.gif
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lampu burger still suvive ah?? blink.gif
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lampu burger still suvive ah?? blink.gif
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why is direct sales always has to do with sports car? don't have anything better to show? tongue.gif
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abuthen? as long as there're money minded freaks still around, lampa will never die. rclxub.gif
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seriously they're so lame!

so here's another story bout Lame Berger..

my cousin sis joined them last 2 years and guess what.. she spent over RM100k on it !! this is so damn terrible!!
she tried to psycho all of my aunts included my mom, to join but only two aunts of mine joined her.. and each of them spent RM37k on it!!

after that she needed more capital to "invest" on the Lame Berger.. so she decided to CHEAT on her friends, family and relatives.. she made up a story that her business were going bad so she needed a certain amount of money. even my sis also kena! doh.gif my sis trusted her and lent RM5k to her.. GrrRrRRrrrrr.......... the total of money that she cheated from friends, family and relative were RM50k+ !!!!! >"< dammit !!

after that she had no choice but to ran over to China to hide because she's owing such a big amount of money from ppl around her.. sigh.. until now also she hasn't appeared yet.. all of my relatives are looking for her.. even her parents don't know what is she doing in China >"< they did contact her and asked her to come back but she said she'll settle it and come back, which i don't think she can.. but i hope she'll keep her promise and return back RM5k to my sis..


this Lame Berger is seriously horrible terrible vegetable and f***able !! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif GrrrrrRrRRRrRr

cis cis !!
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QUOTE(kikipi @ Apr 20 2008, 01:13 PM)
my cousin sis joined them last 2 years and guess what.. she spent over RM100k on it !! this is so damn terrible!!
she tried to psycho all of my aunts included my mom, to join but only two aunts of mine joined her.. and each of them spent RM37k on it!!

after that she needed more capital to "invest" on the Lame Berger.. so she decided to CHEAT on  her friends, family and relatives.. she made up a story that her business were going bad so she needed a certain amount of money. even my sis also kena!  doh.gif  my sis trusted her and lent RM5k to her.. GrrRrRRrrrrr..........  the total of money that she cheated from friends, family and relative were RM50k+ !!!!!  >"< dammit !!

after that she had no choice but to ran over to China to hide because she's owing such a big amount of money from ppl around her.. sigh.. until now also she hasn't appeared yet.. all of my relatives are looking for her.. even her parents don't know what is she doing in China >"< they did contact her and asked her to come back but she said she'll settle it and come back, which i don't think she can.. but i hope she'll keep her promise and return back RM5k to my sis..
this Lame Berger is seriously horrible terrible vegetable and f***able !!  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  GrrrrrRrRRRrRr
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

100k is a hell lots of money damn it! blink.gif
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QUOTE(kikipi @ Apr 20 2008, 01:13 PM)
seriously they're so lame!

so here's another story bout Lame Berger..

my cousin sis joined them last 2 years and guess what.. she spent over RM100k on it !! this is so damn terrible!!
she tried to psycho all of my aunts included my mom, to join but only two aunts of mine joined her.. and each of them spent RM37k on it!!

after that she needed more capital to "invest" on the Lame Berger.. so she decided to CHEAT on  her friends, family and relatives.. she made up a story that her business were going bad so she needed a certain amount of money. even my sis also kena!  doh.gif  my sis trusted her and lent RM5k to her.. GrrRrRRrrrrr..........  the total of money that she cheated from friends, family and relative were RM50k+ !!!!!  >"< dammit !!

after that she had no choice but to ran over to China to hide because she's owing such a big amount of money from ppl around her.. sigh.. until now also she hasn't appeared yet.. all of my relatives are looking for her.. even her parents don't know what is she doing in China >"< they did contact her and asked her to come back but she said she'll settle it and come back, which i don't think she can.. but i hope she'll keep her promise and return back RM5k to my sis..
this Lame Berger is seriously horrible terrible vegetable and f***able !!  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  GrrrrrRrRRRrRr

cis cis !!
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I wonder if their investment got return or not?
If really no(justified) return, why keep on investing shakehead.gif real sohai doh.gif
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QUOTE(andriel @ Apr 20 2008, 01:45 PM)
I wonder if their investment got return or not?
If really no(justified) return, why keep on investing  shakehead.gif  real sohai  doh.gif
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it's their tactic. they'll hold your patient until you realize it's a scam with no returns (there is, but you need to find more water fish and they gonna repeat the same thing). by the time, big amount of money already gone, especially those greedy ones. doh.gif

100k...can't imagine how many poor kids it can help with that kind of money... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 20 2008, 01:49 PM)
it's their tactic. they'll hold your patient until you realize it's a scam with no returns (there is, but you need to find more water fish and they gonna repeat the same thing). by the time, big amount of money already gone, especially those greedy ones. doh.gif

100k...can't imagine how many poor kids it can help with that kind of money... hmm.gif
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exactly!!

but i don't know about the return on investment >"< so far never heard that my cousin sis got any return before..so i guess maybe no return at all ?? blink.gif
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QUOTE(kikipi @ Apr 20 2008, 02:24 PM)
but i don't know about the return on investment >"< so far never heard that my cousin sis got any return before..so i guess maybe no return at all ??   blink.gif
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you see, the only return in direct sales is, like any commercial product, is to sell them. so, all these lampas are overpriced piece of craps (imagine how many people need aromatherapy?).

that's right. even if you open shop and sell these paris lamps you're expecting miniscular sales in malaysia, even if they're selling at reasonable price. so imagine if the price tag has been bumped up to unacceptable range, who will buy?

so, in order to get returns, find more water fish. so the more water fish you find, the more you'll earn. so imagine if you've collected 10 water fishes, and each water fish get another 10 water fishes, and so on, wow, you earn a lot. but, there goes thousands of water fishes suffering. so those pity water fishes starting to find more and more water fishes to get back their money.

lampa will continue to grow, there's no doubt, and will still grow very fast cause in order to (even just) get back the investment cost, more water fishes are needed than you can imagine (so those who actually earning money, go figure). stories at HLA building is understandable, cause they HAVE to get more water fishes for them to survive. most of them are innocent, and they HAVE to act that way to get rid of their current financial situation.

lampa will only lead to full of pain with no gain. notworthy.gif

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Anyone heard of Quest.net? It advertises itself as a network marketing co... >< Sounds fishy to me. An ex-schoolmate of mine is involved, and I'm worried she might be getting herself into some deep shit.
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maybe we should create a group on facebook and invite everyone to join it.. just to create awareness to those who are not aware of this ? o.o

just my suggestion..
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QUOTE(kikipi @ Apr 20 2008, 05:31 PM)
maybe we should create a group on facebook and invite everyone to join it.. just to create awareness to those who are not aware of this ? o.o

just my suggestion..
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i am quite surprised these ppl are still around
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QUOTE(kikipi @ Apr 20 2008, 01:13 PM)
seriously they're so lame!

so here's another story bout Lame Berger..

my cousin sis joined them last 2 years and guess what.. she spent over RM100k on it !! this is so damn terrible!!
she tried to psycho all of my aunts included my mom, to join but only two aunts of mine joined her.. and each of them spent RM37k on it!!

after that she needed more capital to "invest" on the Lame Berger.. so she decided to CHEAT on  her friends, family and relatives.. she made up a story that her business were going bad so she needed a certain amount of money. even my sis also kena!  doh.gif  my sis trusted her and lent RM5k to her.. GrrRrRRrrrrr..........  the total of money that she cheated from friends, family and relative were RM50k+ !!!!!  >"< dammit !!

after that she had no choice but to ran over to China to hide because she's owing such a big amount of money from ppl around her.. sigh.. until now also she hasn't appeared yet.. all of my relatives are looking for her.. even her parents don't know what is she doing in China >"< they did contact her and asked her to come back but she said she'll settle it and come back, which i don't think she can.. but i hope she'll keep her promise and return back RM5k to my sis..
this Lame Berger is seriously horrible terrible vegetable and f***able !!  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  GrrrrrRrRRRrRr

cis cis !!
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well these are the qualites of LB people...

1) Easy to con
2) No face borrow here n there
3) No face bluff here n there
4) Must put damn fuc*ing staight face when CON other people
5) in the end...fuc*ed everybody around them and
6) ultimately start a new life from scratch with debts...
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marquis or monkey.. just call them monkey better...
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marquis or monkey.. just call them monkey better...
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DUKE = DONKEY
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well i know a few of them who approached me last time, i asked for Lamp Berger annual returns, form 9 24 49 then their annual reports and sort. All in the beginning say can can can then the end say i stupid la no money la this n that.

those dumbfark ppl invest on unproven track record firm and trust only verbal promises. They should know why they lose money. We dont have to remind them.

Once i clear that it is a scam, i screw them over some mass media and right after that they called me n say that they will file a lawsuit against me . Well of coz i bring my own personal lawyer friend to pay them a visit at their HQ and giv them some great fark.

GG to those who is still with Lampa Burger
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I'm Duke but I'm not Donkey! LOL!
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only DUKEs in LB are DONKEYs! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Apr 20 2008, 05:04 PM)
Anyone heard of Quest.net? It advertises itself as a network marketing co... >< Sounds fishy to me. An ex-schoolmate of mine is involved, and I'm worried she might be getting herself into some deep shit.
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where u put money in first.. then slowly get back money right?

it is a ponzi game ..... if u jump in early, get money lo .. just like lampa ...... if u be the last water fish, then u lose all the money .. lol
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duke is not monkey because they already con your money and they are rich

monkey is those who just join and paid few k to buy empty dream laugh.gif
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QUOTE(donki85 @ Apr 21 2008, 01:41 PM)
Once i clear that it is a scam, i screw them over some mass media and right after that they called me n say that they will file a lawsuit against me  . Well of coz i bring my own personal lawyer friend to pay them a visit at their HQ and giv them some great fark.

GG to those who is still with Lampa Burger
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must punish them, must punish. ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(musicfactory @ Apr 20 2008, 01:06 AM)
Hey!! Keith!!! I understand how you feel 100% Man!!! Must be real pissed when you earn big bucks and ppl thought you're a gigolo!!  brows.gif

I just thought of a solution!!! may be you can show us your income tax statement for the pass 2 years and perhaps your last 6 month bank statement as well? That will shut me up at least!!  nod.gif

And Keith, since you have soooo much time F+++king us all over here, why don't you do a bit of research yourself and see whether your master Steven Yeam's statement make sense or not....


Secondly....Lenovo laptop that you guys claimed to sell soon for so long....this is VERY FUNNY....It is indeed owned by DCHL....But it's a company called Digital China Holding Limited!!!
I heard that too. Yerp, they want to mislead you into believing that Digital Crown Holding Limited is Digital China Holding Limited. Clearly they are indeed a bunch of scammers. Come on la lampa ppl, smelled too much of that sampah thingy? Ruled by idioticracy and assholacy? Wanna be yeamist ar? go and lick his bald head larrr.... May god forbid you SYNer even a step into HIS kingdom.
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QUOTE(lompatlari @ Apr 21 2008, 04:53 PM)
I heard that too. Yerp, they want to mislead you into believing that Digital Crown Holding Limited is Digital China Holding Limited. Clearly they are indeed a bunch of scammers. Come on la lampa ppl, smelled too much of that sampah thingy? Ruled by idioticracy and assholacy? Wanna be  yeamist ar? go and lick his bald head larrr.... May god forbid you SYNer even a step into HIS kingdom.
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wait, they are misleading people with some other companies name? hmmm eh we all pool some money and spam a bunch of anti-lb posters, want? hahaa
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wait, they are misleading people with some other companies name? hmmm eh we all pool some money and spam a bunch of anti-lb posters, want? hahaa
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forwarding emails are enough! save cost to bring them down! thumbup.gif
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Booo to DCHL, no ROI and yet claim to be making millions, my a$$!
A few of their centers Penang gulung tikar already.
Probably no money to pay for rent.
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Booo to DCHL, no ROI and yet claim to be making millions, my a$$!
A few of their centers Penang gulung tikar already.
Probably no money to pay for rent.
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Booo to DCHL, no ROI and yet claim to be making millions, my a$$!
A few of their centers Penang gulung tikar already.
Probably no money to pay for rent.
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ru sure of this? Penang branch already closed down? the POWER of LYN forum and anti LB blog bring their branches down? thumbup.gif
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ru sure of this? Penang branch already closed down? the POWER of LYN forum and anti LB blog bring their branches down?  thumbup.gif
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Booo to DCHL, no ROI and yet claim to be making millions, my a$$!
A few of their centers Penang gulung tikar already.
Probably no money to pay for rent.
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they are making millions..err i mean the donkey steven yeam is making million laugh.gif

those newly joined new fag? not a chance doh.gif
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post Apr 22 2008, 12:12 AM

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u see this kind of scam very easy and simple calculation to cheat those ppl easily (may be their maths failed big time during school day)

SYN: You invest RM10k...in the future you will get RM100k
Victim: Oh really? Okie, I pay..

then after they pay RM10k...yes, they will let u "earned" abit..let's said RM1k. The victim will be damn fecking happy and thought it's working
so SYN ask for another RM10k..those idiots agree and "earned" another RM1k..wow, this business is damn good!

maths time:
= -RM10,000 + RM1,000 - RM10,000 + RM1,000
= Don't tell me you don't know how to count!
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QUOTE(kikipi @ Apr 20 2008, 01:13 PM)
seriously they're so lame!

so here's another story bout Lame Berger..

my cousin sis joined them last 2 years and guess what.. she spent over RM100k on it !! this is so damn terrible!!
she tried to psycho all of my aunts included my mom, to join but only two aunts of mine joined her.. and each of them spent RM37k on it!!

after that she needed more capital to "invest" on the Lame Berger.. so she decided to CHEAT on  her friends, family and relatives.. she made up a story that her business were going bad so she needed a certain amount of money. even my sis also kena!  doh.gif  my sis trusted her and lent RM5k to her.. GrrRrRRrrrrr..........  the total of money that she cheated from friends, family and relative were RM50k+ !!!!!  >"< dammit !!

after that she had no choice but to ran over to China to hide because she's owing such a big amount of money from ppl around her.. sigh.. until now also she hasn't appeared yet.. all of my relatives are looking for her.. even her parents don't know what is she doing in China >"< they did contact her and asked her to come back but she said she'll settle it and come back, which i don't think she can.. but i hope she'll keep her promise and return back RM5k to my sis..
this Lame Berger is seriously horrible terrible vegetable and f***able !!  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  GrrrrrRrRRRrRr

cis cis !!
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Aya, she can buy the ultimate weapon of LB--> Fancy car@EVO 7 (second lor tongue.gif ) with the money!! Yet she used it to 'help' her upline...Poor girl!!
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One of my friend just joined this so-called syndicate recently. How do i convinced her that all of this is a scam? Obviously she won't listen to me right away. Should i give her some time before convert her back to the light?

Oh and about Quest.net. Anyone got any info about it? My roommate joined and i haven't see any developments so far.
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QUOTE(Cursed_Taufu @ Apr 22 2008, 11:10 AM)
One of my friend just joined this so-called syndicate recently. How do i convinced her that all of this is a scam? Obviously she won't listen to me right away. Should i give her some time before convert her back to the light?

Oh and about Quest.net. Anyone got any info about it? My roommate joined and i haven't see any developments so far.
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let them die...
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i had a frens joined too...i already explained to her abt the entire business sturcture, but yet she dont listen. Worst, she came disturb me introduce more frens to her......
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QUOTE(DerekKuah @ Apr 22 2008, 11:41 AM)
i had a frens joined too...i already explained to her abt the entire business sturcture, but yet she dont listen. Worst, she came disturb me introduce more frens to her......
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QUOTE(DerekKuah @ Apr 22 2008, 11:41 AM)
i had a frens joined too...i already explained to her abt the entire business sturcture, but yet she dont listen. Worst, she came disturb me introduce more frens to her......
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then you intro her to us here at LYN... rclxms.gif

cuz we want some debate rclxms.gif

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oh sh+t! i dunno this lemp burger is a con thing... my friend got one join already... i want to save him... any points for me to talk to him? kesian ma... my friend is very susah... now hepi with this lemp berger... dun want him to cry later... sad.gif
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QUOTE(abang @ Apr 22 2008, 05:22 PM)
oh sh+t! i dunno this lemp burger is a con thing... my friend got one join already... i want to save him... any points for me to talk to him? kesian ma... my friend is very susah... now hepi with this lemp berger... dun want him to cry later... sad.gif
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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ Apr 22 2008, 05:27 PM)
well,...try to ask ur fren to visit this forum or those blog tat I post on the 1st page.

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invite him to join this forum.
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we all here willing to bring him/her back to the right track
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hi guys..i just join this forum.1st of all,i like to express my 'regret' feelings coz not know about this forum..i join this SYN last 2 month.i'll being introduce by my fren.i also have attented their NDO and business preview..i dun knw y i really want to join this business.maybe kene pukau kut..ehehehe..sory not gud in speaking..ah bantai la..anyway,sampai skang nyesal xsudah2..i quit my job coz of this shit business!!i regret that but luckily i got my job back..i invest as a franchisee..know i dunno how to convince my frens bf coz borrows his money..my upline plak suh i pinjam duit and cakap that i can pay back the rm2.5k in 3 months..finally im trap!!i dun know how to pay him back and mostly important is,i already promise my fren that i shall paybeck his bf money by end of this june..oh god what am i doing??luckily im not invest in rm30k.i've attend the NDO in PICC,putrajaya last 2 month and i cant forget the adviced that i got from one of the speaker for that day,marquis mike mok,he says like this "its ok to lose ur fren if they dun wan to join SYN,coz in SYN,u already have lots of fren" what the hell is that mean??!!i said to myself that this is bullshit man!!u rather lose ur gud buddies u knw more than years instead of SYN?can the SYN member pay me back the 2.5k if that what the marquis says?i dun think so!!the worst is everytime the SYN having a talk,skills claz or even the business preview,u have to pay around rm35 more worsen is for the NDO u have to pay around rm150!!if the SYN really wanna help ppl getting RICH,i repeat getting RICH,they shud not burden us by asking money to pay for their skills claz,NDO or even business preview.bukan SYN dah kaya ke?supposely u all give free je for the claz and so on..itu barula dikatakan ikhlas MENOLONG..i dunno y but i really regret guys and luckily i realized it early..i really get mad with this mlm..

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dear iza...

whats done is done...sorry to hear that...well basically u have 2 choices here...

1) To work urself in and find more people to join lampa aka con more ppl...

or

2) cari duit halal untuk settle hutang member tuh...

ask urself and ur conscience...

and hopefully now what u should do is to let other ppl especially ur malay friends who have no idea about this lampa thing...now lampa target market is malay...really...i kid u not...

I am malay but luckily I knew about this lampa 4 years ago...and keep telling my friends how sucks this lampa is hehehe...

but still one of my friends wife kena edi...the upline lend her 10K to start and when she got her first payment the upline straight take what she owe him...my friend now kinda pissed off cuz the upline said previously can pay half first months and the other half next month...

seriously...what benefit u can really get when u join lampa is..."How To Con People and Putting Up Straight Face"...

anyway sorry to hear about u...
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i think u should tell ur friend that u are being con by syn...if they are your best friend, i think they will give u time to pay the depth...that's how good friend should be...not like syn people attitude...once u out; go to hell buddy, u not my friend anymore...
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dear iza,

most ppl who kena SYN trap is similiar to ur case as well.But tat MONKEY Mike Mok is a bit too much by saying "its ok to lose ur fren if they dun wan to join SYN,coz in SYN,u already have lots of fren"

In SYN,everyone is aiming ppl's pocket money only...they are blood suckers aka Vampire!
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Dear iza, you haven't passed the 3 months period. you can still return the lampas or whatever and get a portion of your money back. Guys, btul kan? Unless you are being sponsored by your upline, then it would be hard - act fast. If you need any help in doing that, I believe some of us in this forum can give you a hand.
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seems like iza getting more friends here.. happy.gif go LYN vs SYN..off course LYN wins.. happy.gif cheer up iza.. as long u know the truth.. happy.gif
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i remember dat mike mok..
on one of the ndo i attended (but didnt pay icon_rolleyes.gif) he said..sumtin like.
people will look up to you if you have high status and money..
if you dont have money you dont have value..
his shoes are more valuable than your face.coz its a prada and cost him RM1k..
haha..

and he said that if you are afraid to join because there will be no market and no more prospect to approach..
dont be..because every year there are hundreds of thousands SPM leavers and retired people waiting for this opportunity to be successful to be SCAMMED..
so no worries doh.gif
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QUOTE(teetotem @ Apr 24 2008, 11:06 AM)
i remember dat mike mok..
on one of the ndo i attended (but didnt pay  icon_rolleyes.gif) he said..sumtin like.
people will look up to you if you have high status and money..
if you dont have money you dont have value..
his shoes are more valuable than your face.coz its a prada and cost him RM1k..
haha..

and he said that if you are afraid to join because there will be no market and no more prospect to approach..
dont be..because every year there are hundreds of thousands SPM leavers and retired people waiting for this opportunity to be successful to be SCAMMED..
so no worries
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wow! this kinda speech from MONKEY mike mok dare to say? Btw,can any here post up that MONKEY mike mok face pls?
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QUOTE(teetotem @ Apr 24 2008, 11:06 AM)
i remember dat mike mok..
on one of the ndo i attended (but didnt pay  icon_rolleyes.gif) he said..sumtin like.
people will look up to you if you have high status and money..
if you dont have money you dont have value..
his shoes are more valuable than your face.coz its a prada and cost him RM1k..
haha..

and he said that if you are afraid to join because there will be no market and no more prospect to approach..
dont be..because every year there are hundreds of thousands SPM leavers and retired people waiting for this opportunity to be successful to be SCAMMED..
so no worries  doh.gif
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What an *******, he himself is admitting that they are running on a pyramid scam shakehead.gif

It is only people who are afraid of how people look at them, fail in life.
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After browsing a few pages , I still don't see the reason why SYN etc. is a scam ? would anyone mind telling me? briefly ...

because i've heard a lot about these companies.
something like a pyramid and easy incomes
some are quite successful

is it something about betraying friends, in the case that if they fails
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QUOTE(blu3_apple @ Apr 24 2008, 11:52 PM)
After browsing a few pages , I still don't see the reason why SYN etc. is a scam ? would anyone mind telling me? briefly ...

because i've heard a lot about these companies.
something like a pyramid and easy incomes
some are quite successful

is it something about betraying friends, in the case that if they fails
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Then my friend...You're in GREAT DANGER of being CON by them!! blink.gif Pls be careful and don't walk so near to Menara HLA...cause you might be asked by some hot and sexy girl to chat and bring you to see their nice spa and luxurious HQ....and begin to sniff in all the "fragrance" smell and meeting with "SUck" "CessPool" Monkeys and Donkeys....Then the rest will be....

It's a PYRAMID SCHEME cause they LOAD you upfront!!! vmad.gif with minimal joining fees of RM 2500 and get yourself some lamps...which they call....AIR MANAGEMENT SYSTEM!!! My Ass!! mad.gif
go and check out Lampe berger official site and it's usage is more to lifestyle and home deco...spend half the money and you can get yourself a very good SHARP ionizer...now that is Air Management System and with one year warranty some more! flex.gif

It's EASY INCOME CAUSE THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE WILLING TO GIVE THEIR HARD EARN MONEY FOR NOTHING!!!

It's SUCCESSFUL
if you consider those people who manage some spa hotel, football bookie, illegal dvd seller, drug dealer as SUCCESSFUL TOO!! Cause they all drive AMAZING CARS, HAVE BIG WATCHES and BLING BLING TOO!! The one who owns a spa hotel near where i stay drive a all pimp up BMW 5 series with rims that can blind you and exhause pipe that can fit your head inside!!! drool.gif

Please don't fall to the dark side ok? PM me if you have any doubts still...
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QUOTE(blu3_apple @ Apr 24 2008, 11:52 PM)
After browsing a few pages , I still don't see the reason why SYN etc. is a scam ? would anyone mind telling me? briefly ...

because i've heard a lot about these companies.
something like a pyramid and easy incomes
some are quite successful

is it something about betraying friends, in the case that if they fails
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well...its the way LB people handle the business...its not transparent... I mean...if u were to join they wont tell u everything...until u have dumped a huge amount of cash and when suddenly u want a refund and tats when the catch comes to play...

as an example...what they did now if I was not mistaken...the upline bought alot of lamps and when u want to join they said u can choose ur own lamp from DCHL...the basic rule is u can get 90% refund before 90 days if u decided to quit the business...but suddenly when you want to return these lamps...u found out that only 20% of it are refundable due to the different item class...such as collectors lah and so forth...and to make things worse...it wasn't purchased under your name a.k.a its the old stocks that was bought by your uplines...and lets say u dumped in RM 36K...and if u lucky enuf to get 90% (10% loss) of the amount then it is fine...but imagine if u lose 80% of the amount u dumped initially...well you do the math...

and.....to score faster you will need to dump in more cash in order to upgrade your status/income/percentage rate...well then u will start to dump in more your hard earn money or even borrow here and there...promising others that u will pay them back in no time...BUT...imagine lets say you failed and now you have very little life saving or even debts...

what they really teach the downline is...how to hide critical information such as above example...and they have trainings for this...

and yeah....the items are overpriced...its the money that dumped by downlines will give the upline commission...and make them get their money back...and to make profits...so if u joined the system...in order to get your money back and to make profits...you have to find other people to become your downline...and so forth...

okay...up till now it is legal in malaysia rite...but what if suddenly as an example the gov issue an order to shutdown the company...then...those who just joined wont even get back their money...a.k.a pyramid scheme...

theoritically...you can be rich with LB...first...dump in a huge amount of money>find more people to dump in more money>you will get you initial investment soon enuf (say 1 or 2 months)>find more people (now you are making profit already)>challenge for higher position (make profit)>profits profits profits...

...all you need is positive mind + undying efforts to find people...and if you don't have enuf time...quit your daily job to focus on LB full time...and enjoy your life while you're at it...

simple right???

...just ignore any consequences that might comes along with LB...such as losing your friends and families because you told them it would work (whilst not everybody can do the business) and they said you have lied to them just because they couldn't make it work...because...

LAMPA BURGER IS FOR WINNERS (;those who made profits)
AND STRICTLY NOT FOR LOSERS (;those who dumped in cash to fuel the upline profits)...
THOSE WHO HAVE FAILED PROVES THAT THEY ARE LOSERS (;lose money losers loh...not my problem)...
AND ARE NOT FIT TO DO THE BUSINESS...SO JUST FORGET IT...QUIT THE BUSINESS (;if u decided to quit nvm de cuz your upline already got your money LOL)...
DO NOT AFAID OF WHAT OTHERS THINK EVEN YOUR DAD MOM SISTER GRANDPA GRANDMA (;if they think negative then they are LOSERS)...
JUST LOSE THE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS (;who needs them...what you need is money and more money )...
YOU HAVE MORE FRIENDS IN LAMPA THAN YOUR REAL WORLD FRIENDS (;you try lah ask these so called friends in lampa to sponsor you to settle your debts...TFK till vomit blood oso they wont lah...BS)...


LOL...LAMPA BURGER IS LIKE A JUNGLE WAITING FOR YOU TO EXPLORE IT...IF DIE DIE LAH

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QUOTE(a_yu_volution @ Apr 25 2008, 03:20 AM)

well...its the way LB people handle the business...its not transparent... I mean...if u were to join they wont tell u everything...until u have dumped a huge amount of cash and when suddenly u want a refund and tats when the catch comes to play...

as an example...what they did now if I was not mistaken...the upline bought alot of lamps and when u want to join they said u can choose ur own lamp from DCHL...the basic rule is u can get 90% refund before 90 days if u decided to quit the business...but suddenly when you want to return these lamps...u found out that only 20% of it are refundable due to the different item class...such as collectors lah and so forth...and to make things worse...it wasn't purchased under your name a.k.a its the old stocks that was bought by your uplines...and lets say u dumped in RM 36K...and if u lucky enuf to get 90% (10% loss) of the amount then it is fine...but imagine if u lose 80% of the amount u dumped initially...well you do the math...

and.....to score faster you will need to dump in more cash in order to upgrade your status/income/percentage rate...well then u will start to dump in more your hard earn money or even borrow here and there...promising others that u will pay them back in no time...BUT...imagine lets say you failed and now you have very little life saving or even debts...

what they really teach the downline is...how to hide critical information such as above example...and they have trainings for this...

and yeah....the items are overpriced...its the money that dumped by downlines will give the upline commission...and make them get their money back...and to make profits...so if u joined the system...in order to get your money back and to make profits...you have to find other people to become your downline...and so forth...

okay...up till now it is legal in malaysia rite...but what if suddenly as an example the gov issue an order to shutdown the company...then...those who just joined wont even get back their money...a.k.a pyramid scheme...

theoritically...you can be rich with LB...first...dump in a huge amount of money>find more people to dump in more money>you will get you initial investment soon enuf (say 1 or 2 months)>find more people (now you are making profit already)>challenge for higher position (make profit)>profits profits profits...

...all you need is positive mind + undying efforts to find people...and if you don't have enuf time...quit your daily job to focus on LB full time...and enjoy your life while you're at it...

simple right???

...just ignore any consequences that might comes along with LB...such as losing your friends and families because you told them it would work (whilst not everybody can do the business) and they said you have lied to them just because they couldn't make it work...because...

LAMPA BURGER IS FOR WINNERS (;those who made profits)
AND STRICTLY NOT FOR LOSERS (;those who dumped in cash to fuel the upline profits)...
THOSE WHO HAVE FAILED PROVES THAT THEY ARE LOSERS (;lose money losers loh...not my problem)...
AND ARE NOT FIT TO DO THE BUSINESS...SO JUST FORGET IT...QUIT THE BUSINESS (;if u decided to quit nvm de cuz your upline already got your money LOL)...
DO NOT AFAID OF WHAT OTHERS THINK EVEN YOUR DAD  MOM SISTER GRANDPA GRANDMA (;if they think negative then they are LOSERS)...
JUST LOSE THE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS (;who needs them...what you need is money and more money )...
YOU HAVE MORE FRIENDS IN LAMPA THAN YOUR REAL WORLD FRIENDS (;you try lah ask these so called friends in lampa to sponsor you to settle your debts...TFK till vomit blood oso they wont lah...BS)...


LOL...LAMPA BURGER IS LIKE A JUNGLE WAITING FOR YOU TO EXPLORE IT...IF DIE DIE LAH
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Then my friend...You're in GREAT DANGER of being CON by them!! blink.gif Pls be careful and don't walk so near to Menara HLA...cause you might be asked by some hot and sexy girl to chat and bring you to see their nice spa and luxurious HQ....and begin to sniff in all the "fragrance" smell and meeting with "SUck" "CessPool" Monkeys and Donkeys....Then the rest will be....

hei crap la!!!! i was in there once!!! i don't see any spa or massage centre which is claim by them also mad.gif kononnya ajak me venture business with them....luxurious HQ? tell u wat la...u just imagine a large place with a lot of those cute small round table with chairs, suddenly during discussion monkey here, monkey there, duke this, duke tat will come and annoy u....nothing luxurious at all, more like an interrogation place for criminals by polices....at least i go for a job interview was inside a large board meeting room with a small aquarium on the table with nice cute little fish inside laugh.gif
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Apr 25 2008, 10:00 AM)
hei crap la!!!! i was in there once!!! i don't see any spa or massage centre which is claim by them also  mad.gif  kononnya ajak me venture business with them....luxurious HQ[SIZE=7]? tell u wat la...u just imagine a large place with a lot of those cute small round table with chairs[SIZE=7], suddenly during discussion monkey here, monkey there, duke this, duke tat will come and annoy u....nothing luxurious at all, more like an interrogation place for criminals by polices....at least i go for a job interview was inside a large board meeting room with a small aquarium on the table with nice cute little fish inside  laugh.gif
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kebanggaan lampa's biggrin.gif

http://my.estebelspa.com/

1st time i've been there, my frend look so excited to tell dis,tell tat.. n i was, urrghhh.. sweat.gif

then, 2nd time, lepas 10-15min explore Level 1, once again aku 'di invite' ke spa tu, same thing oso.. he so excited to tell all the 'wonder's' in there..
i was blink.gif , 'straight face', n keluar dari situ while my frend still blaa..bla..bla.. i tell him, "actually aku dah sampai sini 2kali, biase je aku tgk.. ko baru 1st time masuk ke?" he was "....." then start talkin wit his frend.
after 5min, i tell him i wan to go klcc wasting my time there.. he just 'let me go'.. i think he was cry.gif after 'termalu' + failed to racun aku..
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jeeZ....they do really hav a spa, but it belongs to DCHL 1 wat rite? the LB members say its like they open and want ppl to become their business partner....so many ppl share the spa business? shocking.gif wah lau eH.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Apr 25 2008, 12:50 PM)
jeeZ....they do really hav a spa, but it belongs to DCHL 1 wat rite? the LB members say its like they open and want ppl to become their business partner....so many ppl share the spa business? shocking.gif  wah lau eH.... laugh.gif
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Well...maybe those Lampa ppl CON many pretty gals to work in their SPA? U know la...working as either massage gal or....... brows.gif
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yep guys..thanx for sharing with me..i feel released..i think wut u all guys said is true la..whats make me more realized is this SYN is actually cheating ppl only..u know that mike mok says that if u dont have money,u r nothing.be like him,when go out shopping,can but anything..proudly says that he can shopping until rm500k in a day..jeez!!f***er la wey..what i can see from this bisness is,the more u find the prospect,the more u lose frenz and family.i think this SYN juz care abt money only.what make me sad more is lots of malay yg kene tipu.i really geramla with this SYN..to guys out there,plz and plz,avoid this SYN.i agree with u guys,nothing comes easy.before i forgot,i also have attended their monthly meeting and whats shock me is,actually before the end of the talk,they wil have this cabutan bertuahla and the prize wil be omega watch kut xsilapla..and guess what?only the one who invest for count position(rm36k)yg bley join.and once yg terpilih kene plak jadi marquis for abt 5 month dari tarikh cabutan tu..i tot they already get the watch rupa2nyer lom..if dapat jadi marquis,baru dapat that watch..what a brilliant technique!!and then what i heard from my upline,she told us all that steven only looked and recognize ppl who invest in 36k la..not franchisee or baron..kiranye,all he wants to says is,invest 36k then only u can get everything or anything and most important,steven recognize u..BULLSHIT!! la..who is he man..starting from there i feel there is something wrong oledi.gila duit tul la steven ni..swear to god that i will hapuskan this biz!!

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we rather here work hard to earn 2k per month rather then go con ppl and earned 5k (actually losing 10k)
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i almost join this LB thing.

like most people here (or maybe a few), my old fren from secondary school called me suddenly. last time we met around 2-3 years ago, dun remember. asked me to meet him last saturday n start talking about how to make money bla bla bla... he called me friday, said want to meet me the next day (saturday). WTF, suddenly called me then want to meet me the next day. as i also want to go out then nvm la. i was late 4 hours but he insisted want to meet me. hahaha... how desperate he was, to get more money. i dunno how he know me just finish my study.

at first i thought he want to ask me about computer things or pr0n (brows.gif) , coz my fren always know me as pr0n tokan. hahaha...

back to topic. when we met, he start to talk about how to get more money, start from KFC to MCD bla bla bla, asked me "do u wan to buy things without looking the price tag?". then he said "we must control our money, dont let money control us". at that time i dunno that he involve in MLM.

he persuade me to cancel my plan on the next day (Sunday) to attend the NDO. i already plan to going back hometown but he still insist, said he can help me to carry my barang2 (already finish my study, so need to carry all the stuffs). i refuse to go coz already deal with my godfather to pick me up. dowan to change the schedule coz my father hate last minute thing. huhuhu... i said to my fren, ask my father 1st can go or not to NDO. i never call my father coz i dun feel like to go. hahaha...

then i tipu him said my father didnt allow me to go. how can i change my schedule suddenly for such thing, wasting my time. he also said to attend the NDO, need a ticket n he said there are many people out there want the ticket, around 3000. compare 3000 to malaysia population still small maa, where got many. SYN train him to cheat people. hahaha... after i reject the invitation, he said want to bring me to his office (menara HLA). at first i didnt know so want to try my luck, who knows i can work there (at that time still dunno that he is in MLM), hehehe...

when i arrive there, he show me the building, i saw the LB logo. i remember b4 that i saw the name in this forum, but dunno what it is all about. i dunno lempe berger is one of MLM n thought it just a lamp (Lampu Berger). hahaha... i remember there are issues about it but still dun want to read it coz i never assume that it will ever happen to me.

after i enter the building my fren show the LB, estebel and ed pinaud products. the price is ridiculously crazy for just the arir purifier thing. the casing is the expensive one. average price is around 4k-20k, n even got 85k, dunno what so special, he said the casing is made from the railway metal. my face almost become like this user posted image after saw that price. then he told me all the history, bla bla bla... i listen to all he said n then i realized that it is same with other MLM even he claim it it different. he start talking, show me the plan, the baron, count thing, and even show me duke punya room. after he told me as much as he should, my fren hantar balik rumah. all the way he talk about DCHL bla bla bla. very bosan.

after that, search about this LB thing, n found the v2 thread. i read a little then know this LB thing is a scam. i decide not to involve with this kind of thing. the people there wearing coat, looks like rich people, got RX-8, BMW 5 series, CLK, SLK watever expensive car. the way they talk is very different from a smart people. we can see they're trained to say watever they said. i met a couple of succesfull person there, they said we need to sincere when to dis thing, dun do it bcoz of money, do it bcoz we want to help people. BS la!!! they claim want to help people, but actually they want to help themselves to gain more money.

money is important coz we need money to buy things. dun buy things that expensive but the function is same with cheaper thing. shopping until thousands dollars in one day is such a stupid thing to do even u have money to spend. the easier the money u get, the easier it will gone. the more money u gain, the more u feel it is not enough.

i also notice that, people there always condemn the people who makan gaji. they look down on them. money is not everything but it is important. if all people join MLM, who wants to kerja kilang? who wants to repair jalan raya? there are no productivity in our country if all wants to join MLM. it doesnt matter what what job they do, as long as they feel satisfied with the job and the salary. SYN people need to show respect towards people who makan gaji.

F**K SYN, DCHL!!! Stephen Chow is better than Steven Yeam.

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QUOTE(jackdante22 @ Apr 26 2008, 01:48 AM)
F**K SYN, DCHL!!! Stephen Chow is better than Steven Yeam.
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lol obviously Stephen Chow is way way better than him hehehe...

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mind you that i have a friend who owned a Vios after 4months he join, guess what after that, his car was towed by bank because owing 6months installment, so they rich or not? up to u to decide
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QUOTE(iza @ Apr 26 2008, 12:23 AM)
yep guys..thanx for sharing with me..i feel released..i think wut u all guys said is true la..whats make me more realized is this SYN is actually cheating ppl only..u know that mike mok says that if u dont have money,u r nothing.be like him,when go out shopping,can but anything..proudly says that he can shopping until rm500k in a day..jeez!!f***er la wey..what i can see from this bisness is,the more u find the prospect,the more u lose frenz and family.i think this SYN juz care abt money only.what make me sad more is lots of malay yg kene tipu.i really geramla with this SYN..to guys out there,plz and plz,avoid this SYN.i agree with u guys,nothing comes easy.before i forgot,i also have attended their monthly meeting and whats shock me is,actually before the end of the talk,they wil have this cabutan bertuahla and the prize wil be omega watch kut xsilapla..and guess what?only the one who invest for count position(rm36k)yg bley join.and once yg terpilih kene plak jadi marquis for abt 5 month dari tarikh cabutan tu..i tot they already get the watch rupa2nyer lom..if dapat jadi marquis,baru dapat that watch..what a brilliant technique!!and then what i heard from my upline,she told us all that steven only looked and recognize ppl who invest in 36k la..not franchisee or baron..kiranye,all he wants to says is,invest 36k then only u can get everything or anything and most important,steven recognize u..BULLSHIT!! la..who is he man..starting from there i feel there is something wrong oledi.gila duit tul la steven ni..swear to god that i will hapuskan this biz!!
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Welcome to this thread Iza,I'm glad tat u walk in the right path!

QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 26 2008, 07:46 AM)
@jackdante22

mind you that i have a friend who owned a Vios after 4months he join, guess what after that, his car was towed by bank because owing 6months installment, so they rich or not? up to u to decide
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Well,...FYI,those BMW tat LB ppl claims they have....is actually "shared" by a few MARQUIS MONKEYs la!

In tat case,I can borrow my uncles Mercedes S class to show my frens says tat this car is bought by myself!
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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ Apr 26 2008, 08:51 AM)


In tat case,I can borrow my uncles Mercedes S class to show my frens says tat this car is bought by myself!
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eH....i'll go rent a ferrari for 1day and con those LB chicks and sleep with me.... blush.gif
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Apr 26 2008, 06:30 PM)
eH....i'll go rent a ferrari for 1day and con those LB chicks and sleep with me.... blush.gif
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tell them you working as normal officer driving ferrari brows.gif
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i have join this thing as a franchisee & thank god i found this thread.
my friends always asked me to join as a count & i refused
then they tell me to apply for personal loan to join as a count. No Way!
from now on, i will be an anti-Lampa...

damn you SYN
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Well if truly u listen to their business plan, surely u'll think something is really terribly illogical. For me
1. Where da heck do all these money come to? They i was explained, everytime new member join, i get a % of money.
- So this mean i gotta find new members all the time? And their 'entrance' fee is all i'll get la?

2. WTF is it so expensive wan niamah? Fine u wanna say rare and all, pun tak la until 10k++ for a bottle kua..

3. I was then attached to another MLM company, which i must defend it's rather good and the most rational one of all i've seen smile.gif
- AFAIK, in business, u make money when u sell things/products. This LB, i make money when i get new ppl to join ('invest' 2.5k). Naturally, i went o_O wtf

Nay. This thread is good thumbup.gif Gotta warn others of LB.

p.s: Gotta be careful not to blame the whole MLM thing though. I'm not defending MLM just because i was involved, but there're some companies which is still ethical and professional.
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Thanks a lot guys. You guys really clarified most of the important aspects of those companies. Appreciate it.

Will look out and be more cautious with these things.

Oh yah, based on my personal experience. A friend of mine tried to persuade me to join. Brought me to a party where almost everyone is SYN members. Drive nice car everything. Duke or wadever position in less than few months. RMXX,XXX incomes per month, just have to sit there. Haha ....life , life ..

maybe this kind of thing suits some people that are willing to betray friends just for money.
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^I mean, if u understand how their system works, would u still have the heart to persuade your family,friends, ppl u know to join? It's a SCAM with capital S
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in fact, i actively campaign against them in my social circle......
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QUOTE(gingerwinker @ Apr 26 2008, 08:23 PM)
i have join this thing as a franchisee & thank god i found this thread.
my friends always asked me to join as a count & i refused
then they tell me to apply for personal loan to join as a count. No Way!
from now on, i will be an anti-Lampa...

damn you SYN
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my fren once persuade me to join this MLM thingy which i dont remember which one.. its 2.5k.... since i dun have money he ask me to borrow from my family, later i will be rich and able to pay back,...then i said u r rich now y dun u lend me some money,... after that we never talk anymore
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i think.. instead of condemning the lamps.. we should be more focus on the SYN instead.. in my personal opinion.. the lamps did nothing wrong.. but the SYN is the real problem..
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ya.. it is the SYN issues..

The lamp or Estebel are just a product that they use to cover the money sucking plan..

because in Malaysia, u cant do MLM without a real physical product..

tell..me, how many LB members really go and sell Lamps and Estebel products? all of them are finding new members, not selling products.

Product = disguise
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Apr 27 2008, 03:47 AM)
ya.. it is the SYN issues..

The lamp or Estebel are just a product that they use to cover the money sucking plan..

because in Malaysia, u cant do MLM without a real physical product..

tell..me, how many LB members really go and sell Lamps and Estebel products? all of them are finding new members, not selling products.

Product = disguise
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Is damn true! They use product which is the lampa lamps to "shield" themself.In case ppl wanna sue them,they can say tat they got product!
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its a cover up.

tip #1 : never trust a MLM company that focuses more on the networking than the product itself.

their specialty is not the product, but the brainwash technique
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I'm sick with my upline
always 'concern' about me = annoying
she said "If you have a prospect, lets do some "sharing".... bla bla bla

"Sharing" of what? business? or brainwash session?
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its a cover up.

tip #1 : never trust a MLM company that focuses more on the networking than the product itself.

their specialty is not the product, but the brainwash technique
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hmm.gif this is true though. the one i was attracted to just mainly talk on their products nia.
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QUOTE(gingerwinker @ Apr 27 2008, 08:54 PM)
I'm sick with my upline
always 'concern' about me = annoying
she said "If you have a prospect, lets do some "sharing".... bla bla bla

"Sharing" of what? business? or brainwash session?
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well,....ru still with DCHL/ SYN? shocking.gif
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well,....ru still with DCHL/ SYN?  shocking.gif
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i'm still a registered member of SYN but now i really want to escape from all this.
sick & tired with my upline (but she's my friend)... alway ask me to attend NDO, MMG, SYB, MGT etc
there is no use if i tell her that LB is a scam because she's been brainwashed + many of my office colleague joined this thing

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QUOTE(gingerwinker @ Apr 27 2008, 08:54 PM)
I'm sick with my upline
always 'concern' about me = annoying
she said "If you have a prospect, lets do some "sharing".... bla bla bla

"Sharing" of what? business? or brainwash session?
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QUOTE(gingerwinker @ Apr 27 2008, 09:17 PM)
i'm still a registered member of SYN but now i really want to escape from all this.
sick & tired with my upline (but she's my friend)... alway ask me to attend NDO, MMG, SYB, MGT etc
there is no use if i tell her that LB is a scam because she's been brainwashed + many of my office colleague joined this thing
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Is she HAWT? brows.gif


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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Apr 27 2008, 09:23 PM)
Is she HAWT?  brows.gif
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hahaha. not really.
but she's really serious in this so called business...
she told me that she will quit her job if she become challenge marquis

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Emmmm.....LB still very active ar???walaoeh.....how many ppl kena conned already hor???got exceed 1 million ppl kena ar?
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QUOTE(gingerwinker @ Apr 27 2008, 09:28 PM)
hahaha. not really.
but she's really serious in this so called business...
she told me that she will quit her job if she become challenge marquis
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wow! she wanna quit her job and challenge MONKEYs is it?

now u know all LB ppl is been "mind controlled" rite? anyway,did u met Steven YEam b4?

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wow! she wanna quit her job and challenge MONKEYs is it?

now u know all LB ppl is been "mind controlled" rite? anyway,did u met Steven YEam b4?
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i saw steven yeam when attending MMG early this month @ summit usj
i don't see him as a motivator + i just don't understand what he's talking about
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what was he taking about? im interested to see how that imbecile manages to get away with it.
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just want to share something. i just recalled there's a couple who're my friends. know what, after they joined this lampa thing (for quite long already), they've changed their attitude until like sh!t. smile at you also got a sword hiding behind. doh.gif

they're still OK with friends la of course, never talk lampa but i definitely can feel they've change their attitude a lot. although not harmful, but like a lot of stories here, they already become zombie like.

most importantly, i believe they're now "2 way not reaching end", they're kind of resuming their job never got much success - they should have stayed and be hardworking (i'm not telling any further, just want to keep them anonymous).
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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 27 2008, 11:28 PM)
just want to share something. i just recalled there's a couple who're my friends. know what, after they joined this lampa thing (for quite long already), they've changed their attitude until like sh!t. smile at you also got a sword hiding behind. doh.gif

they're still OK with friends la of course, never talk lampa but i definitely can feel they've change their attitude a lot. although not harmful, but like a lot of stories here, they already become zombie like.

most importantly, i believe they're now "2 way not reaching end", they're kind of resuming their job never got much success - they should have stayed and be hardworking (i'm not telling any further, just want to keep them anonymous).
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well....when they find u out yumcha personally and purposely ask u to meet in KLCC,just beware...they will use the shortcut from KLCC to Jalan Kia Peng...then those lampa ppl will bring to to the "Tower of Lampa"
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hey guys.. what is the full name of Menara HLA??

and... anyone know the full name for LB company?
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i did went to that tower of lampa or so called 'tower of darkness'(my friend brought me there).. wahahahaa! 2 times in fact... scary though .. being surrounded by all the "businessman".
i still remember the main point that they say that do it for yourself, don,t care wat other people think. this thing can develop yourself and become confident just like them.. can talk to lots of people la, develop soft skills la...
then i met other people, (their upline maybe) also talking the same thing(more than 3 people said like that).. aikk. tkde modal lain kaaa? develop ka ni?? their tag line is Listen and Follow, takyah pikir2.. wth! parrot also can listen and follow wat????
i,m so glad i,ve come to my senses(help by this thread and my brother) and not joining lampa..
thx guys. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(k33vin @ Apr 28 2008, 01:40 AM)
hey guys.. what is the full name of Menara HLA??

and... anyone know the full name for LB company?
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the name of the company in Menara HLA (Hong LEong Assurance) is DCHL (digital crown holdings limited)

But I call DCHL as D*ck C*ck Horny L*nc*u

QUOTE(deka @ Apr 28 2008, 01:45 AM)
i did went to that tower of lampa or so called 'tower of darkness'(my friend brought me there).. wahahahaa! 2 times in fact... scary though .. being surrounded by all the "businessman".
i still remember the main point that they say that do it for yourself, don,t care wat other people think. this thing can develop yourself and become confident just like them.. can talk to lots of people la, develop soft skills la...
then i met other people, (their upline maybe)  also talking the same thing(more than 3 people said like that).. aikk. tkde modal lain kaaa? develop ka ni?? their tag line is Listen and Follow, takyah pikir2.. wth! parrot also can listen and follow wat????
i,m so glad i,ve come to my senses(help by this thread and my brother) and not joining  lampa..
thx guys.  thumbup.gif
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But I call DCHL as D*ck C*ck Horny L*nc*u
glad to know tat u r not been CONvinced by those lampa ppl,welcome to this thread!  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(mufflerash @ Apr 28 2008, 11:11 AM)
D!CK C0CK HORNY L@NC@U

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QUOTE(mufflerash @ Apr 28 2008, 11:11 AM)
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and we all can put it in our signature thumbup.gif
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make it a banner..
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OMG..musab..kau ke ni???hahaha

update from my friend story who is the SYnNers,now he'd already suffered to live..all his friend(also mine) now can't do like he do and he's now is helpless..with his first dream to ride a RX8 now became a nightmare..just imagine he got 5 downline with him..each of them dump their money 2.5k per one head..he's made a promise to he's friends now he can't accomplished he's whatsofuc*kingever promised to his loyal friends..i'm pity for him but sometimes i'm get mad because he's still not realized this is a scam!!

who in KL know about this marquis@Monkey named King??

first the chinesses,and then Malays..after this what? the indians?kadazans?ibans?

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they target to go for indians i think.. and also go to India as well..
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OMG..musab..kau ke ni???hahaha

update from my friend story who is the SYnNers,now he'd already suffered to live..all his friend(also mine) now can't do like he do and he's now is helpless..with his first dream to ride a RX8 now became a nightmare..just imagine he got 5 downline with him..each of them dump their money 2.5k per one head..he's made a promise to he's friends now he can't accomplished he's whatsofuc*kingever promised to his loyal friends..i'm pity for him but sometimes i'm get mad because he's still not realized this is a scam!!

who in KL know about this marquis@Monkey named King??

first the chinesses,and then Malays..after this what? the indians?kadazans?ibans?
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mana manatawnih chemat..
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mana manatawnih chemat..
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sape ajak ko masuk LB?member kite tu ke??
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i wonder is it worth RM 40k for the lamp? or they jack up the price too much. i once ask the seller why must so expensive. he said this thing antique maa rclxms.gif

http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2008-04D...ffuser_5432.htm

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i wonder is it worth RM 40k for the lamp? or they jack up the price too much. i once ask the seller why must so expensive. he said this thing antique maa  rclxms.gif

http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2008-04D...ffuser_5432.htm

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WALAU YEH! tat lampa lamps summore got 4D numbers?  doh.gif
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one of my friends approached me to do this business.... he bought me to the HLA building, show me all those estebels, marquis system (also let me see some of their marquis)..... he was sooooo persistent about trying to get me to enter this LB... luckily he leave me alone after i said no tongue.gif relly feel like they all have been brainwashed or something..

Luckily i did some research earlier n found this thread..biggrin.gif

so sad to hear ppl got conned.... huge sum of money..
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QUOTE(fazco85 @ Apr 28 2008, 07:29 PM)
one of my friends approached me to do this business.... he bought me to the HLA building, show me all those estebels,  marquis system (also let me see some of their marquis)..... he was sooooo persistent about trying to get me to enter this LB... luckily he leave me alone after i said no tongue.gif relly feel like they all have been brainwashed or something..

Luckily i did some research earlier n found this thread..biggrin.gif

so sad to hear ppl got conned.... huge sum of money..
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welll....I really think there are two type of person whos active in lampa...

1) those who really kena brainwash...
2) those who "sudah terkena scam" as in trying to recover back the money they invested...so to survive they have to "close one eye" while finding more fresh meat...eventually this type will realize soon enuf and quit...

the former is really no cure at all while the latter sooner or later will go back to their previous life (continue to work and learn from thier mistakes)...bearing some of the consequences...mostly bad such as debts, loss of friends trust...yeah some will forgive but it'll takes time I guess...but it's never to late to stop...

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QUOTE(eddyann @ Apr 28 2008, 05:00 PM)
i wonder is it worth RM 40k for the lamp? or they jack up the price too much. i once ask the seller why must so expensive. he said this thing antique maa  rclxms.gif

http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2008-04D...ffuser_5432.htm

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RM 40K my a55...It should cost around 1K USD...really qualified as scammer lah these LB guys...

roughly the price I guess from a Japanese web I think
http://www.rakuten.co.jp/grace-art/676384/.../680001/#651597

AND...

check this out about the courier they use to ship A RM40K item...LOL I Loled hard really...cheapskate HAHAHAHA

POSLAJU (with Tracking Number)
West of Malaysia == 1st item = RM6.00 , each 2nd item and above RM4.00
East of Malaysia == 1st item = RM9.00, each 2nd item and above RM5. 00

Normal Post
West of Malaysia ==1st item = RM3.00 , each 2nd item and above RM2.00
East of Malaysia == 1st item = RM4.00, each 2nd item and above RM3. 00 *



Buyers have to bear with any damage or lost item during Pos Express.
Free Postage for 5 items above within Malaysia.
* I will help you to combine your item to save your shipping cost.
* We do ship to worldwide.
Please contact us for shipping cost.


EPIC FAILURE

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QUOTE(a_yu_volution @ Apr 29 2008, 07:44 AM)
welll....I really think there are two type of person whos active in lampa...

1) those who really kena brainwash...
2) those who "sudah terkena scam" as in trying to recover back the money they invested...so to survive they have to "close one eye" while finding more fresh meat...eventually this type will realize soon enuf and quit...

the former is really no cure at all while the latter sooner or later will go back to their previous life (continue to work and learn from thier mistakes)...bearing some of the consequences...mostly bad such as debts, loss of friends trust...yeah some will forgive but it'll takes time I guess...but it's never to late to stop...

btw...
RM 40K my a55...It should cost around 1K USD...really qualified as scammer lah these LB guys...

roughly the price I guess from a Japanese web I think
http://www.rakuten.co.jp/grace-art/676384/.../680001/#651597

AND...

check this out about the courier they use to ship A RM40K item...LOL I Loled hard really...cheapskate HAHAHAHA

POSLAJU (with Tracking Number)
West of Malaysia == 1st item = RM6.00 , each 2nd item and above RM4.00
East of Malaysia == 1st item = RM9.00, each 2nd item and above RM5. 00

Normal Post
West of Malaysia ==1st item = RM3.00 , each 2nd item and above RM2.00
East of Malaysia == 1st item = RM4.00, each 2nd item and above RM3. 00 *



Buyers have to bear with any damage or lost item during Pos Express.
Free Postage for 5 items above within Malaysia.
* I will help you to combine your item to save your shipping cost.
* We do ship to worldwide.
Please contact us for shipping cost.


EPIC FAILURE
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I LOL also. if damage done by poslaju, how much they willing to insure it, RM 40k? the posman will laugh RM 40k for the lamp, u must be kidding me laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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RM40k covered with RM4 insurance through over peninsular malaysia by stupid Lampa folks...

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if i had a legion of space marines i would.......
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if it's that profitable...Semi Value no need continue as MIC president to eat money there, he can join this already
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Apr 29 2008, 07:34 PM)
if it's that profitable...Semi Value no need continue as MIC president to eat money there, he can join this already
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and the gov shud give every poor family in dis country RM2.5k and ask them to join LB..
they'll be rich in a few month..
n Malaysia will be "sifar kemiskinan" in no time.. rclxms.gif

but then everybody will drive sports car..
n proton n produa will be bankrupt.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(teetotem @ Apr 29 2008, 08:42 PM)
and the gov shud give every poor family in dis country RM2.5k and ask them to join LB..
they'll be rich in a few month..
n Malaysia will be "sifar kemiskinan" in no time.. rclxms.gif

but then everybody will drive sports car..
n proton n produa will be bankrupt..  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(helangkawi @ Apr 29 2008, 04:08 PM)
RM40k covered with RM4 insurance through over peninsular malaysia by stupid Lampa folks...

this is madness...

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no....the ppl will be even more poor especially those below the pyramid and the richer will get rich
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i only meant it as a sarcasm laugh.gif
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QUOTE(teetotem @ Apr 30 2008, 05:47 PM)
true true..

i only meant it as a sarcasm  laugh.gif
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hei boring la......where those rich fellas from LB?
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ May 1 2008, 12:13 AM)
hei boring la......where those rich fellas from LB?
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QUOTE(helangkawi @ Apr 28 2008, 04:11 PM)
OMG..musab..kau ke ni???hahaha

update from my friend story who is the SYnNers,now he'd already suffered to live..all his friend(also mine) now can't do like he do and he's now is helpless..with his first dream to ride a RX8 now became a nightmare..just imagine he got 5 downline with him..each of them dump their money 2.5k per one head..he's made a promise to he's friends now he can't accomplished he's whatsofuc*kingever promised to his loyal friends..i'm pity for him but sometimes i'm get mad because he's still not realized this is a scam!!

who in KL know about this marquis@Monkey named King??

first the chinesses,and then Malays..after this what? the indians?kadazans?ibans?
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There's a lot of kadazan's involved in this too in sabah. In my family, the culprit is my sister. She bought my parent in and my parent, willingly joined her. She even convinced my sister to join her. I couldnt talk anything to her since she's so lansi and i stop advising her how dangerous this can be. Now, i gave up and just hope she came into senses asap. Btw, why are those people very lansi, always saying like they're a millionaire already. I did met some of them and they act so cocky. mad.gif
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QUOTE(lipkhin @ May 1 2008, 01:57 AM)
this LB still around? so sad..
i got fren joined.. dunno how she doing now..
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I think she is been poisoned by those lampa lamp fragrance!
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OMFG!
I can't believe what i saw today
just back from Timesquare.

When I enter car park, i thought like wtf so many people wearing suits, my gf told me must be some wedding or what function. So after park my car i go upstair. Saw those people walking in one big group, purposely walk near and see what's the tag they wearing...
OMFG!! SYN!!! hahahaha

I think they have some talks in BTS... or some function to brainwash ppl
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Its unbelievable when i met my senior.
Quit his job (Petronas) just to do this "business" for full time...
OMG
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smelling the lamp too much can get high u know
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QUOTE(athlonxp @ May 5 2008, 11:55 AM)
smelling the lamp too much can get high brain damage u know
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i heard that they have to strip themselves to undies & bra on stage.
these ppl do anything for money.
scary.

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ May 4 2008, 11:36 PM)
OMFG!
I can't believe what i saw today
just back from Timesquare.

When I enter car park, i thought like wtf so many people wearing suits,  my gf told me must be some wedding or what function. So after park my car i go upstair. Saw those people walking in one big group, purposely walk near and see what's the tag they wearing...
OMFG!! SYN!!! hahahaha

I think they have some talks in BTS... or some function to brainwash ppl
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Well,...I believe u saw the SYN pin on their colar rite?

QUOTE(gingerwinker @ May 5 2008, 11:32 AM)
Its unbelievable when i met my senior.
Quit his job (Petronas) just to do this "business" for full time...
OMG
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Been smell too much of lampa fragrance already.

QUOTE(athlonxp @ May 5 2008, 11:55 AM)
smelling the lamp too much can get high u know
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not just high but kena "mind controlled" as well.

QUOTE(daruma @ May 5 2008, 12:22 PM)
i heard that they have to strip themselves to undies & bra on stage.
these ppl do anything for money.
scary.
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Oh really? how u know tat? did u see them strip as well or u got "bong chan" them b4? biggrin.gif can share some pic of those lampa strippers if u dun mind? tongue.gif

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i've been 'ajak' by my fren to go there twice already just to listen to the stupid ceramah to show that how many ppl became rich by doing nothing.. i just go for the free food because they will surely belanja u makan nod.gif then will sure bring u to a nice place to eat.. then they will ask what do u think of the company.. if u rejected their offer they will suddenly become cocky even they are ur good friend. For me its crap. They will say this is a once in a lifetime opportunity and jgn terkejut if i come to ur house with a freaking bmw la.. u see what have the company done to ur friends? Screw this company! vmad.gif mad.gif
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Well,...I believe u saw the SYN pin on their colar rite?
Been smell too much of lampa fragrance already.
not just high but kena "mind controlled" as well.
Oh really? how u know tat? did u see them strip as well or u got "bong chan" them b4?  biggrin.gif can share some pic of those lampa strippers if u dun mind? tongue.gif
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yeah..saw that pin with large font printed SYN shakehead.gif

yeah..i want to see strippers drool.gif
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ May 5 2008, 04:51 PM)
yeah..saw that pin with large font printed SYN  shakehead.gif

yeah..i want to see strippers  drool.gif
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SYN strippers???? aaaaaaahhhhhhh~ drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(mufflerash @ May 5 2008, 05:06 PM)
SYN strippers???? aaaaaaahhhhhhh~  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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b4 they strip....they will smell lampa lamps fragrance 1st  sweat.gif
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What is the different between SYN and SGN (Steady Global Network)? But what i know, both of 'em r frm DCHL@RZ Co@Lampa.
Other than that, SGN is the one dat operate at F&N business centre, Jln Loke Yew.
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QUOTE(Five_Soul @ May 6 2008, 12:19 PM)
What is the different between SYN and SGN (Steady Global Network)? But what i know, both of 'em r frm DCHL@RZ Co@Lampa.
Other than that, SGN is the one dat operate at F&N business centre, Jln Loke Yew.
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got any source reagrding this SGN? I nvr heard b4 about SGN
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Sorry, i dont ve any source of SGN.
This bcoz its a new group of under DCHL.
They moved frm HLA building to the new office at F&N business park, Jln Loke Yew.
I think their leader is a Malay guy frm Johor. (not 100% sure)
He was originally being recruited at Johor and came to KL to recruite more new guy.(not 100% sure)

They claimed that they r not a head hunter. They only find a business partner (prospect). The business partner must pass all the criteria that they defined as a business partner. One of the criteria is, the future biz partner must ve the capital (RM2300++). That is what i know. If the future biz partner ve all the criteria that they want, then only they approach the prospect as a business partner. (sound nice eh)

So far, that is what i know. All i can see the SGN is, joined by malays only. I don't see any other race in the group. They like to do group activity such as bowling tournament, futsal sport activity, picnic etc. Its the other way of approaching prospect. They claimed that they r working in a group and helping each other..which make them stronger.

I dont remember one of our forumer said that DCHL ve open a new office at F&N business park in V II or in this tread V III. I think he might now something too.

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Apr 20 2008, 05:04 PM)
Anyone heard of Quest.net? It advertises itself as a network marketing co... >< Sounds fishy to me. An ex-schoolmate of mine is involved, and I'm worried she might be getting herself into some deep shit.
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Well the smell of shit is definetely closing in on them now...Today read it from Sin Chew that a lady from Malaysia was arrested in India doing MLM business but the paper never reveal the name of the company, but with some search from the internet...Ta Dah!!! It's QUEST Net...Think the Datuk behind the company is a wanted man now...Ha!!! Guess they probably need some Lampe Berger to get rid of the shit smell!! ha! Someone sell them one pls!! drool.gif

Check this news: Smellyshit!
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This is interesting news. 2 of my frens are going to join this SYN. They r interested of their new marketing plan. I repeat..NEW MARKETING PLAN. Anyone know bout this?

The way they sound..so impress with that new marketing plan. If not because of marketing plan..they wont join it.
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meh its just a respin of what they are doing now.
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QUOTE(Five_Soul @ May 9 2008, 10:53 AM)
This is interesting news. 2 of my frens are going to join this SYN. They r interested of their new marketing plan. I repeat..NEW MARKETING PLAN. Anyone know bout this?

The way they sound..so impress with that new marketing plan. If not because of marketing plan..they wont join it.
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WTF!! they hve created a NEW MARKETING PLAN??! shocking.gif shocking.gif
they all must be working so hard to find ways to CON ppl.

vmad.gif vmad.gif CURSE U SYN!! vmad.gif vmad.gif
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QUOTE(Five_Soul @ May 9 2008, 10:53 AM)
This is interesting news. 2 of my frens are going to join this SYN. They r interested of their new marketing plan. I repeat..NEW MARKETING PLAN. Anyone know bout this?

The way they sound..so impress with that new marketing plan. If not because of marketing plan..they wont join it.
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new lampa lamps model? new lampa tactics to CONvinced ppl?
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Yes...curse you SYN smile.gif
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LB LB crap...owh heard bout dis new MLM....called LUXOR? wuts dat?my friend mati2 ajak... sweat.gif sweat.gif dude i wana be a designer...please
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QUOTE(StevenYeam @ May 11 2008, 10:45 PM)
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HELLO! Steven Yeam,glad here....wat makes u come to this thread? wanna explain about ur so called "business" to us?
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QUOTE(Five_Soul @ May 9 2008, 10:53 AM)
This is interesting news. 2 of my frens are going to join this SYN. They r interested of their new marketing plan. I repeat..NEW MARKETING PLAN. Anyone know bout this?

The way they sound..so impress with that new marketing plan. If not because of marketing plan..they wont join it.
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as long as they're trying to sell lampas, ANY business will not work (you want those lampas?? lol!!!).

business is all about selling products/providing services. if products/services sux, no matter what marketing plan, it'll still sux.

yeah right. new marketing plan to catch more waterfishes. doh.gif
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1 thing true is that they always talk bout owning a bmw... is having one of those their only target??

how bout houses and all?

normally those who fall for SYN Lampa scheme are lazy bums who are dropouts from my college.
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QUOTE(donki85 @ May 12 2008, 03:19 PM)
1 thing true is that they always talk bout owning a bmw... is having one of those their only target??

how bout houses and all?

normally those who fall for SYN Lampa scheme are lazy bumsrich wannabes who are dropouts from my college.
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not exactly lazy bums IMHO ppl who live in false hope of becoming rich to be exact....u have no idea how crazy these ppl are
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QUOTE(Turnip @ May 12 2008, 01:08 AM)
LB LB crap...owh heard bout dis new MLM....called LUXOR? wuts dat?my friend mati2 ajak... sweat.gif  sweat.gif dude i wana be a designer...please
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haha...diZ LUXOR oso cannot be trust. last time back at my college, my fren oso pushing me to join diz SOo called 'BIZ'.. Same like LB la.. but at dat time they want u to pay RM2000 for regstration sweat.gif .. after that u will get all kind of their products. mostly like health supplement 4 u 2 sell or use it own ur own. when they trying 2 persuade me, one of their high level rank..i don't noe what they call him..in LB myb he is MONKEY (marquis) level.. he said to me dat he promise dat he will help me to find my partner. so dat i can get my income faster..i was like shocking.gif ...macam ni pun ade ke?? But dats all BULLS*&T!! after we have some arguments...i said to him, "thanx, myb i'll join u some other day"..then i just chow...left my fren behind & die with it... Well,that's my xperiece.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(muska85 @ May 12 2008, 08:54 PM)
haha...diZ LUXOR oso cannot be trust. last time back at my college, my fren oso pushing me to join diz SOo called 'BIZ'.. Same like LB la.. but at dat time they want u to pay RM2000 for regstration  sweat.gif .. after that u will get all kind of their products. mostly like health supplement 4 u 2 sell or use it own ur own. when they trying 2 persuade me, one of their high level rank..i don't noe what they call him..in LB myb he is MONKEY (marquis) level.. he said to me dat he promise dat he will help me to find my partner. so dat i can get my income faster..i was like  shocking.gif ...macam ni pun ade ke?? But dats all BULLS*&T!! after we have some arguments...i said to him, "thanx, myb i'll join u some other day"..then i just chow...left my fren behind & die with it... Well,that's my xperiece.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(muska85 @ May 12 2008, 08:54 PM)
haha...diZ LUXOR oso cannot be trust. last time back at my college, my fren oso pushing me to join diz SOo called 'BIZ'.. Same like LB la.. but at dat time they want u to pay RM2000 for regstration  sweat.gif .. after that u will get all kind of their products. mostly like health supplement 4 u 2 sell or use it own ur own. when they trying 2 persuade me, one of their high level rank..i don't noe what they call him..in LB myb he is MONKEY (marquis) level.. he said to me dat he promise dat he will help me to find my partner. so dat i can get my income faster..i was like  shocking.gif ...macam ni pun ade ke?? But dats all BULLS*&T!! after we have some arguments...i said to him, "thanx, myb i'll join u some other day"..then i just chow...left my fren behind & die with it... Well,that's my xperiece.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ May 6 2008, 12:39 PM)
got any source reagrding this SGN? I nvr heard b4 about SGN
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SGN and SYN nothing much different. Is just a different group of ppl. If i did not remember wrongly.. SYN lead by Arch Duke Steven Yeam and SGN lead by Duke Yap.

Duke Yap is from SYN too previously.. because of something happen.. he out from SYN and the SGN appeared. SGN mostly operate in JB.. only recently operate in KL wisely.

And also.. Steven Yeam actually is under Taiwan team previously which lead by Michael.
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QUOTE(Felice821 @ May 13 2008, 02:00 PM)
SGN and SYN nothing much different. Is just a different group of ppl. If i did not remember wrongly.. SYN lead by Arch Duke Steven Yeam and SGN lead by Duke Yap.

Duke Yap is from SYN too previously.. because of something happen.. he out from SYN and the SGN appeared. SGN mostly operate in JB.. only recently operate in KL wisely.

And also.. Steven Yeam actually is under Taiwan team previously which lead by Michael.
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who is micheal.....?
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who is micheal.....?
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i dont aware this thread exist in lyn..juz to share my little story.my friend invest rm36k for this kind of business.can u imagine he is still university student like me,invest quite sum of money in this STUPID MLM? (but,they didnt call as MLM,i think they called Joint Benefit).they oso change some terms in purpose of distinguishing it from MLM biz.terms like upline@downline they change to franchisor n franchisee.n for me how stupid for those who were inflluenced with those terms.mostly are university students n fresh grads especially from local university.i think most of them were attracted to joint bcoz of the luxury of the office.how naive.n for my fren,what he got for the investment is rm20k++ n boxes of the products(air purifier).he didnt even cant sell 1 bottle of them to other ppl.so can u imagine how he is now.luckily it all his money,no loan from along,if not so long wit his life la...
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Just to share my 2cents. I'm surrounded by people who's into this LB. They're some of my closest friend and we still are. They tried tho few years back to recruit me, but I guess i'm not that easy to be brainwashed. What bothers me now is LB trying to recruit more student. My brother and some of his friend keep on asking me why have i not joined while other does, i said.. Google up !! .

Btw, they have this show on fly fm pagi crew... 'the fix it' ...i've been emailing to them to complain and needing help to convince my brother not be scammed, unfortunately my problem hasn't been air yet.. any of you guys tried it ? Anyway, its on National radio... it's a good to warned the public of this scam... then again, they might censored the company's name *sigh*

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QUOTE(ameenskywalker @ May 16 2008, 11:24 AM)
Btw, they have this show on fly fm pagi crew... 'the fix it' ...i've been emailing to them to complain and  needing help to convince my brother not be scammed, unfortunately my problem hasn't been air yet.. any of you guys tried it ? Anyway, its on National radio... it's a good to warned the public of this scam... then again, they might censored the company's name *sigh*
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QUOTE(hemoh_hemoh @ May 16 2008, 11:02 AM)
i dont aware this thread exist in lyn..juz to share my little story.my friend invest rm36k for this kind of business.can u imagine he is still university student like me,invest quite sum of money in this STUPID MLM? (but,they didnt call as MLM,i think they called Joint Benefit).they oso change some terms in purpose of distinguishing it from MLM biz.terms like upline@downline they change to franchisor n franchisee.n for me how stupid for those who were inflluenced with those terms.mostly are university students n fresh grads especially from local university.i think most of them were attracted to joint bcoz of the luxury of the office.how naive.n for my fren,what he got for the investment is rm20k++ n boxes of the products(air purifier).he didnt even cant sell 1 bottle of them to other ppl.so can u imagine how he is now.luckily it all his money,no loan from along,if not so long wit his life la...
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yeah, u r rite.. they don't even use the word 'upline@downline' anymore..they've change it to 'Biz Partner'.


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my bro were once hypnotize by LB too few years ago (2004). He is a mechanical engineer graduated from UK, but still somehow they can brainwash him to join LB. I must say they are pretty damn good with brainwashing. Dont know what's gotten into him at that time, suddenly come back home asking for rm20k so that he can join LB even when he fully understand that it is a form of MLM (my family hates MLM A LOT). He said something like he want to be top of pyramid. lol

But of course we are against it, and he got angry with it. However after sometime the 'brainwash' effect wore off and he came back to his senses. Never talk about LB anymore, he knows he did a mistake. haha

I think he wasted quite a lot of money though, he got like 5-6 bottle of oil at home. but I dont mind, i kinda like the aroma anyway. will finish it off slowly tongue.gif
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QUOTE(radical85 @ May 17 2008, 12:49 AM)
my bro were once hypnotize by LB too few years ago (2004). He is a mechanical engineer graduated from UK, but still somehow they can brainwash him to join LB. I must say they are pretty damn good with brainwashing. Dont know what's gotten into him at that time, suddenly come back home asking for rm20k so that he can join LB even when he fully understand that it is a form of MLM (my family hates MLM A LOT). He said something like he want to be top of pyramid. lol

But of course we are against it, and he got angry with it. However after sometime the 'brainwash' effect wore off and he came back to his senses. Never talk about LB anymore, he knows he did a mistake. haha

I think he wasted quite a lot of money though, he got like 5-6 bottle of oil at home. but I dont mind, i kinda like the aroma anyway. will finish it off slowly tongue.gif
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1st time i hear this LB, they ll put u as franchisee when u pay RM2k++. I thought it was a franchise company. Then i asked, do they registered with MFA? That guy does not even know what is MFA(Malaysian Franchise Assosiation) but they claimed that they r using the franchise concept. But they doesn't even study how and what is franchise work.

They i asked again, do the company registered with DSAM? He also dont know what is DSAM (Direct Selling Assosiation of Malaysia). Any direct selling company should register with DSAM. Why they do not reg with DSAM? urmmm...i wonder why? Pyramid scheme is not allowed to be reg under DSAM.

I wonder...
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just wanna add my experience, when i was 25 on wasted my time on lampa burger,same stories like you people ,been approach by a not so close fren call me up to yumchar...haih,u see me work as a salesman selling cars, he said wanna buy car ask for my opinion...then i say sure ...

come sit down mamak stall ask me budget 150k can buy what car..wow i though this guys was making good money..hahaha..then i show my my salesman skills la...recomended some nice car in that price bracket...for he is only 23 then.hehe.. he seem like really interested to buy ..ask me somemore if pay cash or take loan better...that really caught my eyes,

then i ask one of the if most regretful or stupiest question of my life.'what you do lar, u seem doing quite well' this is one of the bladdy question i remember in my life....there he started la say he doing business selling healthcare business...and being naive of me then really salute him...i keep on pressing for more about his work but the answer i just got was selling healthcare and nothing more..somehow i got another appointment later so we parted and i never know what he really did.

by the coming monday afternoon gotla a call from this fella said ask me for dinner together after work ..i say oklo... then he said ask me go to his office in jalan raja laut..wow i getting carried away cos finally i can see what he do and how he become sucessful..wanna learn la konon...

celaka when i'm in jalan raja laut ask me go to great easten building next to HLA say he is now in his stockist ask me meet him there... i still in dark about lampa burger...tot wanan take dinner then nvm la..once park in great easten ask me walk down the street to go to HLA... then he greet me there...

there he started la invite me go inside... somemore show me some s2pid quality vase..adoi that cost dunno how much la...heavens number...and the best part is not for sale to anybody...only to selected few and the price like 85k...adoi..really selected few sohai only will buy...

then sit down la kena talk by one of his markis or whatever la... haih...in the end ask to photostat my ic pulak aiyo really forcing me...
no choice let them copy my ic then say no money now pay them few more days.....hahaha...haha the moment i asy wanna pay the next day ,i can see my frend his fist pump into the air and say 'yes' macam mourinho winning FA cup hahahaha...

so i just went off without taking dinner and swearing all the way
home...celaka..

the thing that hold me off from buying is overpriced item..knowla me working as salesman we earn by commision...celaka dia...those things bladdy overpriced by 800%..is like me buying RM8 for 1 aladin ligther...and somemore i buy 1 ligther those bladdy upline can share the proft..where is the logic la...is it because they join before me so they can get my cut meh...*** 9 them..


surely i got a call from him the next day ask for payment ..i just whack him la...needless to say no mor contact from him..hehe



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QUOTE(DioSchifoso @ May 20 2008, 06:46 PM)
just wanna add my experience, when i was 25 on wasted my time on lampa burger,same stories like you people ,been approach by a not so close fren call me up to yumchar...haih,u see me work as a salesman selling cars, he said wanna buy car ask for my opinion...then i say sure ...

come sit down mamak stall ask me budget 150k can buy what car..wow i though this guys was making good money..hahaha..then i show my my salesman skills la...recomended some nice car in that price bracket...for he is only 23 then.hehe.. he seem like really interested to buy ..ask me somemore if pay cash or take loan better...that really caught my eyes,

then i ask one of the if most regretful or stupiest question of my life.'what you do lar, u seem doing quite well' this is one of the bladdy question i remember in my life....there he started la say  he doing business selling healthcare business...and being naive of me then really salute him...i keep on pressing for more about his work but the answer i just got was selling healthcare and nothing more..somehow i got another appointment later so we parted and i never know what he really did.

by the coming monday afternoon gotla a call from this fella said ask me for dinner together after work ..i say oklo... then he said ask me go to his office in jalan raja laut..wow i getting carried away cos finally i can see what he do and how he become sucessful..wanna learn la konon...

celaka when i'm in jalan raja laut ask me go to great easten building next to HLA say he is now in his stockist ask me meet him there... i still in dark about lampa burger...tot wanan take dinner then nvm la..once park in great easten ask me walk down the street to go to HLA... then he greet me there...

there he started la invite me go inside... somemore show me some s2pid quality vase..adoi that cost dunno how much la...heavens number...and the best part is not for sale to anybody...only to selected few and the price like 85k...adoi..really selected few sohai only will buy...

then sit down la kena talk by one of his markis or whatever la... haih...in the end ask to photostat my ic pulak aiyo really forcing me...
no choice let them copy my ic then say no money now pay them few more days.....hahaha...haha the moment i asy wanna pay the next day ,i can see my frend his fist pump into the air and say 'yes' macam mourinho winning FA cup hahahaha...

so i just went off without taking dinner and swearing all the way
home...celaka..

the thing that hold me off from buying is overpriced item..knowla me working as salesman we earn by commision...celaka dia...those things bladdy overpriced by 800%..is like me buying RM8 for 1 aladin ligther...and somemore i buy 1 ligther those bladdy upline can share the proft..where is the logic la...is it because they join before me so they can get my cut meh...*** 9 them..


surely i got a call from him the next day ask for payment ..i just whack him la...needless to say no mor contact from him..hehe
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Btw,how much u invest in order to join them? Or u just only waste ur time without wasting money?
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QUOTE(DioSchifoso @ May 20 2008, 06:46 PM)
just wanna add my experience, when i was 25 on wasted my time on lampa burger,same stories like you people ,been approach by a not so close fren call me up to yumchar...haih,u see me work as a salesman selling cars, he said wanna buy car ask for my opinion...then i say sure ...

come sit down mamak stall ask me budget 150k can buy what car..wow i though this guys was making good money..hahaha..then i show my my salesman skills la...recomended some nice car in that price bracket...for he is only 23 then.hehe.. he seem like really interested to buy ..ask me somemore if pay cash or take loan better...that really caught my eyes,

then i ask one of the if most regretful or stupiest question of my life.'what you do lar, u seem doing quite well' this is one of the bladdy question i remember in my life....there he started la say  he doing business selling healthcare business...and being naive of me then really salute him...i keep on pressing for more about his work but the answer i just got was selling healthcare and nothing more..somehow i got another appointment later so we parted and i never know what he really did.

by the coming monday afternoon gotla a call from this fella said ask me for dinner together after work ..i say oklo... then he said ask me go to his office in jalan raja laut..wow i getting carried away cos finally i can see what he do and how he become sucessful..wanna learn la konon...

celaka when i'm in jalan raja laut ask me go to great easten building next to HLA say he is now in his stockist ask me meet him there... i still in dark about lampa burger...tot wanan take dinner then nvm la..once park in great easten ask me walk down the street to go to HLA... then he greet me there...

there he started la invite me go inside... somemore show me some s2pid quality vase..adoi that cost dunno how much la...heavens number...and the best part is not for sale to anybody...only to selected few and the price like 85k...adoi..really selected few sohai only will buy...

then sit down la kena talk by one of his markis or whatever la... haih...in the end ask to photostat my ic pulak aiyo really forcing me...
no choice let them copy my ic then say no money now pay them few more days.....hahaha...haha the moment i asy wanna pay the next day ,i can see my frend his fist pump into the air and say 'yes' macam mourinho winning FA cup hahahaha...

so i just went off without taking dinner and swearing all the way
home...celaka..

the thing that hold me off from buying is overpriced item..knowla me working as salesman we earn by commision...celaka dia...those things bladdy overpriced by 800%..is like me buying RM8 for 1 aladin ligther...and somemore i buy 1 ligther those bladdy upline can share the proft..where is the logic la...is it because they join before me so they can get my cut meh...*** 9 them..


surely i got a call from him the next day ask for payment ..i just whack him la...needless to say no mor contact from him..hehe
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btw how u know the thing is overprice 800% that time?

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QUOTE(teetotem @ May 16 2008, 09:43 AM)
michael is the DEVIL...
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QUOTE(mufflerash @ May 16 2008, 10:14 AM)
HUMAN + MONKEY
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devil + human + monkey = Monkey God aka Shu Em Hong???
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QUOTE(zhinsara @ May 21 2008, 01:54 AM)
devil + human + monkey = Monkey God aka Shu Em Hong???
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Name: Winnie Lim
Age / Gender: 42,Female
Upline Duke: Arch Duke Steven Yeam
Upline Marquis: Arch Duke Steven Yeam
Current Position: Duke
Place of Birth: Kedah, Malaysia
Profession / Business / Jobs: Business Woman

Why choose LB? :This is an International Network Marketing Business. Coming from a traditional business background environment, there is no doubt this is a very smart industry offering infinite market potential and sustainability.

How have you benefited from LB ? :I used to have a very sensitive nose. After using the product, I became confident in the product and business. I joined the business to create my second success story !

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From the right, Winnie Lim,Steven Yeam,Lee and Montfort board of directors chairman Tan Sri Clifford F. Herbert

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Another pic,From the right…Winnie Lim,Steven Yeam,Tan Sri Clifford F. Herbert,Lee

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A pic from DCHL official websites.

FYI,she’s from MCA and also the secretary for Datuk Ng Yen Yen (MCA Wanita).SOme DCHL/SYN members also like to use this words to CONvinced the water fish by saying:

“If Winnie Lim the secretary of Datuk Ng Yen Yen is doing this business, how wrong can this business be, sure a successful business plan, come in and cut count now.”


Taken from meshio.com

this f**king retard SYN are insulted my current job!!!Marquis named King,let see how much you can do the bussines,you took my friends away from me you MONKEY biat**H!!!!






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post May 21 2008, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ May 21 2008, 12:12 AM)
btw how u know the thing is overprice 800% that time?
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its real easy...cos that time the markiss show me when u work up to certain rank u get so much of commission or cut.. so u jsts add up all lar all those total commision is like u sell rm100 worth of product rm 80 ringgit kena share by those so called up line ...somemore not included those earn by the company itself..so u just guess from there la how much that thing cost...really retard...

this lb people i tell u har..when they having sex and reach orgasm they never say thank you to their forefather 7 generation before them(cos makin sure they were here) but when they trying so hard to sell rm100 worth of product when they got shitload of kerosene and s2pid vase in lying in their home they worship steven yeam for bringing them to lb.. f***ing retard! doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(DioSchifoso @ May 21 2008, 05:55 PM)
its real easy...cos that time the markiss show me when u work up to certain rank u get so much of commission or cut.. so u jsts add up all lar all those total commision is like u sell rm100 worth of product rm 80 ringgit kena share by those so called up line ...somemore not included those earn by the company itself..so u just guess from there la how much that thing cost...really retard...

this lb people i tell u har..when they having sex and reach orgasm they never say thank you to their forefather 7 generation before them(cos makin sure they were here)  but when they trying so hard to sell rm100 worth of product when they got shitload of kerosene and s2pid vase in lying in their home they worship steven yeam for bringing them to lb.. f***ing retard! doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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wow!! you are really much more "pandai" than those b***ches and sons of b***ches. Yet they claim they were some professionals, leaving their career because DCHL is much more better. Burn in hell f**kers.
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QUOTE(lompatlari @ May 23 2008, 03:21 PM)
wow!! you are really much more "pandai" than those b***ches and sons of b***ches. Yet they claim they were some professionals, leaving their career because DCHL is much more better. Burn in hell f**kers.
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yeah car salesman is smarter than all the so called professional, i need to tell that to my fren who lost so much money on this LB.
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if it is a scam, then report it to the authority..easier that way i think sweat.gif
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if it is a scam, then report it to the authority..easier that way i think sweat.gif
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haha...next time i do sumting illegal, i be sure to do many charity biggrin.gif
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tht bloody SYN on front page of The Star newspaper today... :puke:
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the star front page yo!
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ghahaha yeah, front page donating 180k wor. XD
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but it is a good deed..sympathise those china n myanmar victims sad.gif
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wow, this organization still alive one ar...
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after cheating millions of dollars the dumb ass is able to squeeze a measely 180k only. hahaha
fnny.
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the rm180k is not his money,its the money those easy-minded ppl lost to him
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who got eucalytus oil??? i got few other favour oil...wanna exchange?? pls pm me...
serious leh...

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tht bloody SYN on front page of The Star newspaper today...  :puke:
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after cheating millions of dollars the dumb ass is able to squeeze a measely 180k only. hahaha
fnny.
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180k is only.... 6 counts rite??
aiya, should be small money lar.. haha
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180k is only.... 6 counts rite??
aiya, should be small money lar.. haha
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ceH....those LB members always say they can spend $$$ like water only....now donate 180k? u got to be kidding me.... laugh.gif can always say this ferrari, tat porche, itu mercedes, tat sports car huH? apa la....buat malu aje...if donate a few billions i believe tat SYN business plan la... laugh.gif
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Hahaha, that b*****d DARE to say he felt emotional when reading the news about the China victims... Emo my @$$, after conning so many stupid youngsters of their hard-saved / earned money to join his stupid Scam You Network...

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Called Diamond Manager? Crown Manager? Super Crown Manager?
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just try to inform your friends, tell them why they shouldn't join, and make sure you're as persuasive as they are!
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oooo...we shud donate more than 180k too...persuasive~
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try to look at this video,he talk cock lampa so damn GREAT!



Note: in this video at 0:15 , the women at far left is Duke Winnie Lim...former Wanita MCA Ng yen yen's secretary.

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Quoted from The Star - “This is to start the ball rolling,” said Yeam. Besides the company, he said 2,000 members of SYN also chipped in.

RM 180 , 000 / 2000 people = RM 90 dollar person. Lolx! Can "EARN" so much money can drive ferrari and bmws but only RM90 perperson? Lolx! Funny la!!!
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Quoted from The Star - “This is to start the ball rolling,” said Yeam. Besides the company, he said 2,000 members of SYN also chipped in.

RM 180 , 000 / 2000 people = RM 90 dollar person. Lolx! Can "EARN" so much money can drive ferrari and bmws but only RM90 perperson? Lolx! Funny la!!!
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Steven Yeam himself has donated RM30,000 O.o" what a gigantic deal.

RM30,000 to earthquake victims and RM30,000 to TheStar to stay on front page.

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8三陪女郎捐百萬
我們的錢不髒

(深圳26日綜合電)“我們的錢不髒!”中國互聯網近日流傳指深圳有8名四川籍三陪女郎,聯合向地震災區捐款100萬人民幣。她們更在網上聯名,要求各大傳媒報道她們的善舉!

她們聲稱:“中央電視台晚會上深圳慈善總會捐獻的一億中就有我們的100萬。”

她們又表示,持有100萬捐款票據及深圳慈善總會證書為憑證。

據發起捐款的林若婷說,她們要求媒體報道,是因為受不了媒體近日關于明星捐款報道太多,那怕是捐一萬元的都上報紙表揚。

林又指,其實我們本不要求報道,自己職業是不光彩的,現在收入好些,能盡力就行!何況還是家鄉有難!

但媒體把最好的稱讚給了那些最有錢又最吝嗇的所謂明星。“中央電視台還拚命給採訪她們,稱讚她們,讓我們學習她們。”

她還在帖文中指出,“我們卻是背井離鄉,用青春與肉體服侍富人換來的血汗錢,請問誰應該報道,誰應該學習!”
8 prostitutes from ShiChuan has donated RMB1 million to earthquake victims, they announce it over the internet and demand mass media to report their action.

They said too much attentions given to rich people like superstars even thou they only donated RMB10,000.

One of them, Lim, said even thou their profession is not so respected, but they can't stand that the media give the best compliment to those super rich but stingy people.

"We left our homewotn, and use our youth and body to exchange for hard earn money, please tell me who deserve compliment!"

source
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erk....is it 30k?...not mention anywhere unsure.gif
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that yeam ******* donate so little only

for all the people he scam..he should have donate at least 3mil shakehead.gif

this guy sure know how to act in front of media shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(rexis @ May 27 2008, 11:49 AM)
Steven Yeam himself has donated RM30,000 O.o" what a gigantic deal.

RM30,000 to earthquake victims and RM30,000 to TheStar to stay on front page.
8 prostitutes from ShiChuan has donated RMB1 million to earthquake victims, they announce it over the internet and demand mass media to report their action.

They said too much attentions given to rich people like superstars even thou they only donated RMB10,000.

One of them, Lim, said even thou their profession is not so respected, but they can't stand that the media give the best compliment to those super rich but stingy people.

"We left our homewotn, and use our youth and body to exchange for hard earn money, please tell me who deserve compliment!"

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Donate because one wants to HELP, not because of wanting to appear in the media.

The prostitutes want to have free ads from giving their earnings through sex. Epic fail.

RMB1 million = how much RM?
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totally agree.
DCHL is a SCAMMMED...
I was recently got cheated by my friend from bringing me to meal then aksing me join them for discussion ..

SAY NO TO DCHL
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QUOTE(happy4ever @ May 27 2008, 01:22 PM)
Donate because one wants to HELP, not because of wanting to appear in the media.

The prostitutes want to have free ads from giving their earnings through sex. Epic fail.

RMB1 million = how much RM?
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RMB 1 million = RM 1/2 million

Tats Steven Yeam scam millions of ppl's money but only donate thousand? haha! wat a joke

Plus,tat is not his hard earn money...is ppl's hard earn money...he just gained the fame for it! vmad.gif
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QUOTE(binks @ May 27 2008, 01:47 PM)
totally agree.
DCHL is a SCAMMMED...
I was recently got cheated by my friend from bringing me to meal then aksing me join them for discussion ..

SAY NO TO DCHL
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did u get to eat?
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QUOTE(athlonxp @ May 27 2008, 12:11 PM)
that yeam ******* donate so little only

for all the people he scam..he should have donate at least 3mil  shakehead.gif

this guy sure know how to act in front of media  shakehead.gif
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What to do, that so-hai with that stupid face (see yesterday's The Star front page for his sui-yong) is a darn good actor... And what is RM180k for that scammer? Really should donate RM1.8m instead, since he has so much money from all those idiots who kena con...
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they all are always like dat lorr..
give donation la...charity la...
like to 'cari publisiti' to expand their so called BIZ...
juz want to cover up their SCAM biz... sweat.gif
make it looks good in front of people eyes... cool2.gif
so dat people think their biz can b trust...
BULLS**T la DCHL/SYN!!!! vmad.gif vmad.gif

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QUOTE(THT United Gadgets @ May 27 2008, 07:14 PM)
What to do, that so-hai with that stupid face (see yesterday's The Star front page for his sui-yong) is a darn good actor... And what is RM180k for that scammer? Really should donate RM1.8m instead, since he has so much money from all those idiots who kena con...
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He think that by donating 30K he will go to heaven. Wrong ! mad.gif
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Haarr?? RM30k only arrr? Cannot even buy a 'CxNT' ooppss..I mean 'Count' position. shakehead.gif


Added on May 27, 2008, 10:48 pmHaarr?? RM30k only arrr? Cannot even buy a 'CxNT' ooppss..I mean 'Count' position. shakehead.gif

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Is it true that Steven Yeam bribe our goverment?
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QUOTE(gingerwinker @ May 28 2008, 03:26 PM)
Is it true that Steven Yeam bribe our goverment?
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i've been there in Sunway Convention last Sunday. RM222,272 donated by Yeam. RM12,500+ donated by 2500-3000 synners who attend tat event (except ME!).
first, my bruder ask me to folow him, he paid for me RM150 for tat NDO. so i just wanna exprience it, bring along my camera. but strictly NO camera in there.
tell u wat, its dangerous once u getting in there. all 'speakers (marquis/monkey)' r really 'master' in brainwashing ppl.! sweat.gif ..really wasting my time from 10am-6.30pm.. (but lunch & tea time was great, yummy!~ atleast dpt makan free! hohohoh!)

+ i hav a pricelist for Lampe Berger & Estebel. so u guys can compare it or research it.

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tell u, Estebel Body Milk-Eucalyptus (200ml) i buy it for my mum tru eBay, RM150 only.

but DCHL,

Retail Price: RM203
Dist. Price: RM162
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QUOTE(andriel @ May 27 2008, 10:14 PM)
He think that by donating 30K he will go to heaven. Wrong ! mad.gif
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eh...222K....180k...30k...hmmm... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mcdale_008 @ May 29 2008, 11:29 AM)
eh...222K....180k...30k...hmmm... sweat.gif
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222k by Yeam, 180k by the star, 180k s.c.j.p, 12k by all synners attend tat day.

..a lot of monkey make donation. 1k - 30k
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sometimes feel like i wanna pit my mental power against them.
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when meet with lamb burger or yum cha just be deaf when their talk about it, i alway like that

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Damn... talk about Lampe Berger i will be damn mad... if no Lampe Berger i won't be that cham today... friend c me like saw ghost... even i not do liao long long time ago... lost money n now still owe ppl money... haiz... tell u what... almost few days everyweek... have ppl will at ourside HK Lampe Berger office n get party "Tear Down Lampe Berger!!!! Lamper Berger cheat money!!!"
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Hi,

my friend has wrote a complaint to Suruhanjaya Sekuriti Malaysia on this. This is the reply from them.

Dear xxx,



We refer to your complaint dated 4 April 2008 concerning the abovementioned.

Based on the information provided, there appears to be no element of securities or investment dealings. As such, this company does not fall under our supervision. Should you feel the company is offering investments or securities trading of any kind, you are encouraged to submit further information to us.

Investors are reminded not to invest with investment schemes which are not licensed by the SC and are advised to refer to the SC's Frequently Asked Questions: "Do Not Invest in Illegal Internet Investment Schemes" available on the SC website at www.sc.com.my. Please also refer to the same website if you wish to lodge a complaint.

For your information, this scheme appears to be a multi level marketing activity which comes under Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Hal Ehwal Pengguna (KPDN & HEP).

This matter will be refer to KPDN & HEP and should you need further information, we would suggest you to contact KPDN & HEP at 03 8882 5500 or 1 800 886 800.


Thank you.


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Hi,

my friend has wrote a complaint to Suruhanjaya Sekuriti Malaysia on this. This is the reply from them.

Dear xxx,



We refer to your complaint dated 4 April 2008 concerning the abovementioned. 

Based on the information provided, there appears to be no element of securities or investment dealings. As such, this company does not fall under our supervision. Should you feel the company is offering investments or securities trading of any kind, you are encouraged to submit further information to us.

Investors are reminded not to invest with investment schemes which are not licensed by the SC and are advised to refer to the SC's Frequently Asked Questions: "Do Not Invest in Illegal Internet Investment Schemes" available on the SC website at www.sc.com.my. Please also refer to the same website if you wish to lodge a complaint.

For your information, this scheme appears to be a multi level marketing activity which comes under Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Hal Ehwal Pengguna (KPDN & HEP).

This matter will be refer to KPDN & HEP and should you need further information, we would suggest you to contact KPDN & HEP at 03 8882 5500 or 1 800 886 800.


Thank you.
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I'm the SYNer..i would like to tell ...please call the KPDNHEP a.s.a.p...they can show our biz is legal biz..

This biz no problem wif goverment...goverment staff also join this biz n they not cheat any person , one month later they oredi success ..the secret ..tell about the biz..if anybody interested just join ..if not leave it...is it call CON?? we are not persuade or paksa...we just introduce the biz..decide by yourself..is it right ??if u are not interested just forget it...all of forumer talk to much but nothing..only talk talk talk...if u are not like the MLM biz..diam je la... if u feel comfortable wif ur life...just go on wif what u do right now to get money..jgn bising2 la..everybody have their own life, ambition..

donald trump already say if he have second choice..MLM will be the choice...so?? we are not force anybody to invest (not invest la...pjg la nak cerita...)the money...we give the opportunity n the way to success...if u are going to say NO...we understand what u feel..is it simple deal right??

about the blog...owner of antilampeberger blog is a partner of Lampe Berger before this..after he join this biz n do nothing (just wait for money)...he not get any profit..so he very angry wif this biz la....come on la...do nothing u will get the money ka??? think bout it...
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haha.. by the way.. u know where r u talking ?


Added on June 6, 2008, 7:37 amfor your info, your company is listed under the "AMARAN SEKURITI KERAJAAN". If you are aware about that. all full of lies !

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QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 6 2008, 04:11 AM)
I'm the SYNer..i would like to tell ...please call the KPDNHEP a.s.a.p...they can show our biz is legal biz..

This biz no problem wif goverment...goverment staff also join this biz n  they not cheat any person , one month later they oredi success ..the secret ..tell about the  biz..if anybody interested just join ..if not leave it...is it call CON?? we are not persuade or paksa...we just introduce the biz..decide by yourself..is it right ??if u are not interested just forget it...all of forumer talk to much but nothing..only talk talk talk...if u are not like the MLM biz..diam je la... if u feel comfortable wif ur life...just go on  wif what u do right now to get money..jgn bising2 la..everybody have their own life, ambition..

donald trump already say if he have second choice..MLM will be the choice...so?? we are not force anybody to invest (not invest la...pjg la nak cerita...)the money...we give the opportunity n the way to success...if u are going to say NO...we understand what u feel..is it simple deal right??

about the blog...owner of antilampeberger blog is a partner of Lampe Berger before this..after he join this biz n do nothing (just wait for money)...he not get any profit..so he very angry wif this biz la....come on la...do nothing u will get the money ka??? think bout it...
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just quoting this part here "we are not persuade or paksa"? are you really sure about that? telling people that their life is not good enough. saying if we do not change our lifestyle, we will be in lose. (prove me that non of the SYNers will not say this).

And now you are saying this is MLM? where else, SYNers claim is not MLM but FRANCHISING. How many bullsh1t is being thrown here. An I heard that can refund if don't like. But not full refund?? (correct me if I'm wrong). And think of this, this system is better without LB. LB products are much cheaper. Might as well just do this business without it. can gain more money.. just recruit.. but that is illegal..
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QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 6 2008, 04:11 AM)
I'm the SYNer..i would like to tell ...please call the KPDNHEP a.s.a.p...they can show our biz is legal biz..

This biz no problem wif goverment...goverment staff also join this biz n  they not cheat any person , one month later they oredi success ..the secret ..tell about the  biz..if anybody interested just join ..if not leave it...is it call CON?? we are not persuade or paksa...we just introduce the biz..decide by yourself..is it right ??if u are not interested just forget it...all of forumer talk to much but nothing..only talk talk talk...if u are not like the MLM biz..diam je la... if u feel comfortable wif ur life...just go on  wif what u do right now to get money..jgn bising2 la..everybody have their own life, ambition..

donald trump already say if he have second choice..MLM will be the choice...so?? we are not force anybody to invest (not invest la...pjg la nak cerita...)the money...we give the opportunity n the way to success...if u are going to say NO...we understand what u feel..is it simple deal right??

about the blog...owner of antilampeberger blog is a partner of Lampe Berger before this..after he join this biz n do nothing (just wait for money)...he not get any profit..so he very angry wif this biz la....come on la...do nothing u will get the money ka??? think bout it...
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ur a SYN? good then. people lets not start bashing first.

molerex, can you explain to us:
1) the nature of SYN?
2) What kind of business does it do?
3) How do members of SYN earn money? Do they have to sell products?
4) When you mention invest, what are you investing in?
5) How many ranks are there in SYN, what are the ranks for?

Please don give stupid answer like "panjang cerita" and ask ppl to come to ur office to find out, if you do even know how to answer those questions above, then you also "buta-buta" join SYN and have no idea whats going on.
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donald trump already say if he have second choice..MLM will be the choice...
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show me the video which says this, thanks.
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QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 6 2008, 04:11 AM)
I'm the SYNer..i would like to tell ...please call the KPDNHEP a.s.a.p...they can show our biz is legal biz..

This biz no problem wif goverment...goverment staff also join this biz n  they not cheat any person , one month later they oredi success ..the secret ..tell about the  biz..if anybody interested just join ..if not leave it...is it call CON?? we are not persuade or paksa...we just introduce the biz..decide by yourself..is it right ??if u are not interested just forget it...all of forumer talk to much but nothing..only talk talk talk...if u are not like the MLM biz..diam je la... if u feel comfortable wif ur life...just go on  wif what u do right now to get money..jgn bising2 la..everybody have their own life, ambition..

donald trump already say if he have second choice..MLM will be the choice...so?? we are not force anybody to invest (not invest la...pjg la nak cerita...)the money...we give the opportunity n the way to success...if u are going to say NO...we understand what u feel..is it simple deal right??

about the blog...owner of antilampeberger blog is a partner of Lampe Berger before this..after he join this biz n do nothing (just wait for money)...he not get any profit..so he very angry wif this biz la....come on la...do nothing u will get the money ka??? think bout it...
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Hi molerex!

I got some questions to ask u,...one ur 1st paragraph....u mention goverment staff join SYN.I believe is those "malay ppl" that recently recruited rite?

2nd paragraph,got any proof or source saying tat if Donald Trump will join MLM if he has 2nd chance?

Last paragraph, I met the blog owner of antilampeberger b4,...I can say tat u r totally wrong! the blog owner is not former lampeberger member.....is one of his family member was former lampeberger member.

Molerex.....try to think about it....if u say this biz is tat damn good....y the ppl who quit is more than the ppl who earn money? Y those SYN ppl dare not to tell me about their business at my home instead must ask me to go Menara HLA? U know other MLM company (eg. Amway,Elken) they can intro the business to me anytime anywhere but SYN only know how to bring ppl to Menara HLA.

U mention tat u didnt "paksa" but u use NLP or hypnosis ok! I been to menara HLA once b4,this is wat they do! Ask those MONKEY and DONKEY to brainwash me (got 10ppl sitting on a table) but they failed to recruit me.




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QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 6 2008, 04:11 AM)

donald trump already say if he have second choice..MLM will be the choice...so?? we are not force anybody to invest (not invest la...pjg la nak cerita...)the money...we give the opportunity n the way to success...if u are going to say NO...we understand what u feel..is it simple deal right??
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QUOTE(sandw|ch @ Jun 6 2008, 07:32 AM)
haha.. by the way.. u know where r u talking ?


Added on June 6, 2008, 7:37 amfor your info, your company is listed under the "AMARAN SEKURITI KERAJAAN". If you are aware about that. all full of lies !
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prove it...please..
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Hi molerex!

I got some questions to ask u,...one ur 1st paragraph....u mention goverment staff join SYN.I believe is those "malay ppl" that recently recruited rite?

2nd paragraph,got any proof or source saying tat if Donald Trump will join MLM if he has 2nd chance?

Last paragraph, I met the blog owner of antilampeberger b4,...I can say tat u r totally wrong! the blog owner is not former lampeberger member.....is one of his family member was former lampeberger member.

Molerex.....try to think about it....if u say this biz is tat damn good....y the ppl who quit is more than the ppl who earn money? Y those SYN ppl dare not to tell me about their business at my home instead must ask me to go Menara HLA? U know other MLM company (eg. Amway,Elken) they can intro the business to me anytime anywhere but SYN only know how to bring ppl to Menara HLA.

U mention tat u didnt "paksa" but u use NLP or hypnosis ok! I been to menara HLA once b4,this is wat they do! Ask those MONKEY and DONKEY to brainwash me (got 10ppl sitting on a table) but they failed to recruit me.
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1st paragraph - goverment staff means KPDN staff..

2nd paragraph - u will find it in this forum also..read from began...

last paragraph - come on la brother..who will 'mengaku' the mistake??

about tell the biz...come on la...can we bawak the office go to u? we invite u to attend in our office just to make our confident bout our biz..if u not confident not our problem...decide by yourself...

"Ask those MONKEY and DONKEY to brainwash me (got 10ppl sitting on a table) but they failed to recruit me." (fair ma...got success got failed too) why u "pening" lagi? just forget it...stop talking ma if u are in good way...dont blame anybody...

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Guys chill la, wat good it does if when a SYNer comes in and u all start bashing him/her? Doing that do yourself no good also la, cos in the eyes of other readers u're just like another bunch of cock talkers.

QUOTE(Stanley88 @ Jun 6 2008, 09:11 AM)
ur a SYN? good then. people lets not start bashing first.

molerex, can you explain to us:
1) the nature of SYN?
2) What kind of business does it do?
3) How do members of SYN earn money? Do they have to sell products?
4) When you mention invest, what are you investing in?
5) How many ranks are there in SYN, what are the ranks for?

Please don give stupid answer like "panjang cerita" and ask ppl to come to ur office to find out, if you do even know how to answer those questions above, then you also "buta-buta" join SYN and have no idea whats going on.
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QUOTE(Stanley88 @ Jun 6 2008, 09:11 AM)
ur a SYN? good then. people lets not start bashing first.

molerex, can you explain to us:
1) the nature of SYN?
2) What kind of business does it do?
3) How do members of SYN earn money? Do they have to sell products?
4) When you mention invest, what are you investing in?
5) How many ranks are there in SYN, what are the ranks for?

Please don give stupid answer like "panjang cerita" and ask ppl to come to ur office to find out, if you do even know how to answer those questions above, then you also "buta-buta" join SYN and have no idea whats going on.
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1st..thanks for give me opportunity to explain...i like ur way..not 'kelam kabut'..

1 & 2 - SYN is the independent distributors for DCHL..we do the networking marketing..other call MLM..rite. one of our products is Lampe Berger.

3 - SYN Partner can earn money when they get the ppl to join in this biz(commision la..)..means Franchising biz..example...u are the HQ then u get the ppl to join as ur biz partner..u got the commision lor..like McD n KFC, got many branches rite? but to start McD biz u must have RM2.5million minimum as a capital..Actually partner in SYN can sell product if they have strong mind to confident the ppl to buy the product..but it little bit hard to sell when the price of product more then thousand ...is it rite? if u can sell go for it..but dont say we force u to sell the product... so we just give alternative to u... get the ppl to join the biz..when ppl join the biz with rm2.5k capital the company give the product as same price u pay...the other way our product go to market when ppl join our biz...is it SCAM?

4 - FOR ME NOT INVEST LA...u pay the capital then u got the product...then when u got the partner u can sponsor them with ur product in ur hand... for me invest means u pay the money then u got nothing just waiting the profit..example in conventional biz..'sleeping partner'..for me la..

5 - FRANCHISEE, BARON, COUNT, MARQUIS, DUKE, ARCH DUKE..'biasa maa.." u work hard, u got many partner n money...company give u one rank maa...same as all company in the world..got rank..executive, manager...etc


i hope you satisified with my reply...thanks
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QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 6 2008, 05:11 PM)
prove it...please..
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by the way.. i understand it's not a scam.. but the concept it's got something wrong there.. and the way they brainwash.. makes people feel bad about their lives..

and also, the products sold by SYN really isn't worth that much.. (by the way don't compare to ebay, because ebay is different. Not retail price). But compare to retail price instead..

and could you please tell us here or explain about the refund concept??
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QUOTE(psyntium @ Jun 6 2008, 08:05 AM)
just quoting this part here "we are not persuade or paksa"? are you really sure about that? telling people that their life is not good enough. saying if we do not change our lifestyle, we will be in lose. (prove me that non of the SYNers will not say this).

And now you are saying this is MLM? where else, SYNers claim is not MLM but FRANCHISING. How many bullsh1t is being thrown here. An I heard that can refund if don't like. But not full refund?? (correct me if I'm wrong). And think of this, this system is better without LB. LB products are much cheaper. Might as well just do this business without it. can gain more money.. just recruit.. but that is illegal..
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i know got SYNer over excited with this biz then what they do is 'hard psycologies'. Among of us not comfort with that psycology...me to..i know most of u all disappointed with that situation..very sorry about that..in my network..we not do like the partner that u meet..what we do is win win situaton...if u are not interested its ur decision..we cannot say anything...

Its MLM..they claim it Franchising biz coz we do franchising biz...'biasa ma..'psycology..if they say MLM, probably u reject them...hehehehe
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QUOTE(sandw|ch @ Jun 6 2008, 06:17 PM)
not to support SYN or anything.. but the list got updated.. no more lampe berger.. need to find other sources.. maybe they manage to take their name out of the list..

http://www.sc.com.my/ENG/HTML/licensing/in...Alert_list.html


Added on June 6, 2008, 6:42 pmmaybe.. can check on pyramid legallity of SYNers..


Molorex.. do you claim or not.. SYN is a pyramid scheme??

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QUOTE(psyntium @ Jun 6 2008, 06:26 PM)
by the way.. i understand it's not a scam.. but the concept it's got something wrong there.. and the way they brainwash.. makes people feel bad about their lives..

and also, the products sold by SYN really isn't worth that much.. (by the way don't compare to ebay, because ebay is different. Not retail price). But compare to retail price instead..

and could you please tell us here or explain about the refund concept??
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thanks

i agree with u..all ppl will feel bad when they face the ppl that blame u everytime....that partner not wrong..but 'tak perasan' give some talk make the ppl angry...honestly ...my network not like this bro...i feel shock when u say have SYNer talk to blame ppl life...

about the product price..frankly speaking..i don't know about retail price...thanks for remind me to check it... but for me..import product should be mahal la..like import car...siam lain lor..hehehe

refund concept..when u join our biz then after that u not interested to do the biz :

100% refund policy if cancellation of distributorship is within ten (10) working days of "Cooling of Period" from date of joining

90% of the refund policy if cancellation of distributorship and return of products are within three (3) month from the date of invoice (biasa lor..dah amik 3 bln sudah jadi secondhand lorr..heheh)



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and.. i think.. those who wants to join this kind of people must only be trained people.. and really HAVE MONEY and not ask people to take loans where there wont be any garantee.. ASB is somewhat ganranteed.. and you can sell back the loan..

and SYN should not just recruiting anyone.. even students.. these is not like jobs.. but i think you know what i mean.. is not you are "selected"..

and.. cars mahal because of tax.. try to compare with perfume prices.. how much different is it compared to lampe berger here n US.. and perfume here and US..

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QUOTE(psyntium @ Jun 6 2008, 06:37 PM)
not to support SYN or anything.. but the list got updated.. no more lampe berger.. need to find other sources.. maybe they manage to take their name out of the list..

http://www.sc.com.my/ENG/HTML/licensing/in...Alert_list.html


Added on June 6, 2008, 6:42 pmmaybe.. can check on pyramid legallity of SYNers..
Molorex.. do you claim or not.. SYN is a pyramid scheme??
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thanks psyntium...

SYN is not pyramid scheme coz..my partner get more money then me because his very hardworking guy( i'm slow n steady guy..heheheh)...then he got the rank 1st..i got nothing with his job..see..is it pyramid?? in our biz, u are hard working.. then u got ur benefit...not just sitting n waiting the money...heeeh
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QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 6 2008, 06:54 PM)
thanks psyntium...

SYN is not pyramid scheme coz..my partner get more money then me because his very hardworking guy( i'm slow n steady guy..heheheh)...then he got the rank 1st..i got nothing with his job..see..is it pyramid?? in our biz,  u are hard working.. then u got ur benefit...not just sitting n waiting the money...heeeh
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but then.. if five of your partners.. are doing really good.. and you duduk rumah doing nothing.. still you get more money from them right??


Added on June 6, 2008, 8:25 pmplease refer to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme

and prove me that SYN does not have any of this:

the key identifiers of a pyramid scheme include the following:

* A highly excited sales pitch.
* A reassurance that it is not, in fact, a pyramid scheme, possibly with a false account of what a pyramid scheme is.
* Little to no information offered about the company unless an investor purchases the products and becomes a participant.
* Vaguely phrased promises of limitless income potential.
* No product, or a product being sold at a price ridiculously in excess of its real market value, or a product with minimal or unrealistic market potential. As with the company, the product is vaguely described.
* An income stream that chiefly depends on the commissions earned by enrolling new members or the purchase by members of products for their own use rather than sales to customers who are not participants in the scheme.
* A tendency for only the early investors/joiners to make any real income.
* Assurances that it is perfectly legal to participate.
* The insistence they are not here to pressure you but merely to guide you.
* The idea that there are no bosses, only coaches and mentors.

maybe this cannot be the base.. but it leads to somewhere.


Added on June 6, 2008, 8:26 pmand prove me again why it is not a pyramid??

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This business con people kaw kaw. I have more respect to those bro selling burgers by the street than this type of people. At least they do honest business and cook good food.
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its not "hard working". Its how hard u cheat ppl. there is a way to do business but this is not the way.. cheat.. this fella driving that.. driving this.. its just all full of bullshit..


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QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 6 2008, 06:54 PM)

SYN is not pyramid scheme coz..my partner get more money then me because his very hardworking guy( i'm slow n steady guy..heheheh)...then he got the rank 1st..i got nothing with his job..see..is it pyramid?? in our biz,  u are hard working.. then u got ur benefit...not just sitting n waiting the money...heeeh
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u said ur biz is not a pyramid scheme?? shocking.gif
r u sure bout dat bro?? hmm.gif hmm.gif
can u show us ur so called biz marketing plan starting with McD or KFC u have stated?

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QUOTE(sandw|ch @ Jun 7 2008, 05:38 AM)
its not "hard working". Its how hard u cheat ppl. there is a way to do business but this is not the way.. cheat.. this fella driving that.. driving this.. its just all full of bullshit..
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cheat for what?? ppl pay ppl got product..so?? like buy the computer...buy n u've got item

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QUOTE(psyntium @ Jun 6 2008, 08:21 PM)
but then.. if five of your partners.. are doing really good.. and you duduk rumah doing nothing.. still you get more money from them right??


Added on June 6, 2008, 8:25 pmplease refer to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme

and prove me that SYN does not have any of this:

the key identifiers of a pyramid scheme include the following:

    * A highly excited sales pitch.
    * A reassurance that it is not, in fact, a pyramid scheme, possibly with a false account of what a pyramid scheme is.
    * Little to no information offered about the company unless an investor purchases the products and becomes a participant.
    * Vaguely phrased promises of limitless income potential.
    * No product, or a product being sold at a price ridiculously in excess of its real market value, or a product with minimal or unrealistic market potential. As with the company, the product is vaguely described.
    * An income stream that chiefly depends on the commissions earned by enrolling new members or the purchase by members of products for their own use rather than sales to customers who are not participants in the scheme.
    * A tendency for only the early investors/joiners to make any real income.
    * Assurances that it is perfectly legal to participate.
    * The insistence they are not here to pressure you but merely to guide you.
    * The idea that there are no bosses, only coaches and mentors.

maybe this cannot be the base.. but it leads to somewhere.


Added on June 6, 2008, 8:26 pmand prove me again why it is not a pyramid??
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as i say...i've got nothing when my partner have the rank..pyramid scheme always the top guy got untung la....

aloo..all of company also make pyramid maa...have u seen 10 CEO and 1 clerk in ur company?? or 120 manager and 2 executive? NO la...mana leh jumpa ramai CEO dalam satu company.... CEO have a big staff..see the organisation chart...
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QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 6 2008, 06:14 PM)
1st..thanks for give me opportunity to explain...i like ur way..not 'kelam kabut'..

1 & 2 -  SYN is the independent distributors for DCHL..we do the networking marketing..other call MLM..rite. one of our products is Lampe Berger.

3 -  SYN Partner can earn money when they get the ppl to join in this biz(commision la..)..means  Franchising biz..example...u are the HQ then u get the ppl to join as ur biz partner..u got the commision lor..like McD n KFC, got many branches rite? but to start McD biz u must have RM2.5million minimum as a capital..Actually partner in SYN can sell product if they have strong mind to confident the ppl to buy the product..but it little bit hard to sell when the price of product more then thousand ...is it rite? if u can sell go for it..but dont say we force u to sell the product... so we just give alternative to u... get the ppl to join the biz..when ppl join the biz with rm2.5k capital the company give the product as same price u pay...the other way our product go to market when ppl join our biz...is it SCAM?

4 - FOR ME NOT INVEST LA...u pay the capital then u got the product...then when u got the partner u can sponsor them with ur product in ur hand... for me invest means u pay the money then u got nothing just waiting the profit..example in conventional biz..'sleeping partner'..for me la..

5 - FRANCHISEE, BARON, COUNT, MARQUIS, DUKE, ARCH DUKE..'biasa maa.." u work hard, u got many partner n money...company  give u one rank maa...same as all company in the world..got rank..executive, manager...etc
i hope you satisified with my reply...thanks
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i. Yay finally some balanced discussions here at last, rather than everyone just continuously bit*hing here.
From the business plan, a franchisee/count/member gets money only when he/she find/recruit a new franchisee. So at the end, this business encourages ppl to just recruit and recruit instead of selling more.

ii. The thing is, the item is way overpriced. Because the original price from France (it is France rite?) is much lower that the selling price here. Overpricing an item and persuading others that the price is reasonable and worthy, it doesn't at all sound reasonable to me though.


QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 7 2008, 02:59 PM)
as i say...i've got nothing when my partner have the rank..pyramid scheme always the top guy got untung la....

aloo..all of company also make pyramid maa...have u seen  10 CEO and 1 clerk in ur company?? or 120 manager and 2 executive? NO la...mana leh jumpa ramai CEO dalam satu company.... CEO have a big staff..see the organisation chart...
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Haha laugh.gif i love this rebuttal. Well i mean yeah u're correct. But the thing is this:

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* No product, or a product being sold at a price ridiculously in excess of its real market value, or a product with minimal or unrealistic market potential. As with the company, the product is vaguely described.
* An income stream that chiefly depends on the commissions earned by enrolling new members or the purchase by members of products for their own use rather than sales to customers who are not participants in the scheme.


As i provided my 2 arguments above; that is why I/We felt LB business is quite of a scam.

I/We awaits your reply

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QUOTE(muska85 @ Jun 7 2008, 11:55 AM)
u said ur biz is not a pyramid scheme??  shocking.gif
r u sure bout dat bro??  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
can u show us ur so called biz marketing plan starting with McD or KFC u have stated?
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how many kfc in malaysia? more then 100...i didnt say m/plan same as McD or KFC..i said we do franchising like McD n KFC..when u want to open the McD or KFC..u must have a product from HQ .. u cannot make ur own burger...Then HQ will provide u a staff to running ur biz.. our company provide u a education to learn biz..not buta-buta running...understand 1st then running the biz..
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At least answer us on the over-pricing issue will ya?

KFC : 2 pieces of fried chicken. 1 drink, coleslaw, mashed potato, unlimited amount of chilli sauce: 10 bucks.
1. Cost for 2 pieces of chicken. Roughly 2 bucks
2. 1 cup of Pepsi : Roughly 50 cents
3. Potato: 30 cents
4. Coleslaw : 40 cents.
5. Services : 4 bucks (fry/cook)
6. Unlimited Sauce : Free!

The total cost is about 8 bucks. Difference of 2 bucks. Not much to argue lo.

Your LB perfume:
Cost: (i'm being very generous here). 1 big bottle of 1 litre : 50 bucks
Selling price : 200.

Profit margin of 4 times. Don't u think it's way overpriced?

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2008, 08:27 PM)
This business con people kaw kaw. I have more respect to those bro selling burgers by the street than this type of people. At least they do honest business and cook good food.
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prove it..prove the all burger guy honest.. i dont want to bashing burger guy or kacau their biz...coz their biz is their biz...but i know what burger guy do..just silent..if u think our biz con u...so, just diam la...talk talk to much but u got nothing when u talk talk...if i say we are not cheating ppl..u not agreed..then diam la bro..
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ermm... i think in hong kong ppl start ban lb already.
y stil want to talk with this topic again?
yet got ppl defence lb one, he make a choice to defence it since he in that business.
so we dont join them, and dont talk with them lor. their feel their are right, time will tell mah.
and if them get rich, them will said, is my hardwork $$. lolz.
but their didnt relies network busi, once the name start busuk. that is the end of it.. good luck bro who in lb mlm.

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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Jun 7 2008, 03:18 PM)
^aduh u missed my post again doh.gif

At least answer us on the over-pricing issue will ya?

KFC : 2 pieces of fried chicken. 1 drink, coleslaw, mashed potato, unlimited amount of chilli sauce: 10 bucks.
1. Cost for 2 pieces of chicken. Roughly 2 bucks
2. 1 cup of Pepsi : Roughly 50 cents
3. Potato: 30 cents
4. Coleslaw : 40 cents.
5. Services : 4 bucks (fry/cook)
6. Unlimited Sauce : Free!

The total cost is about 8 bucks. Difference of 2 bucks. Not much to argue lo.

Your LB perfume:
Cost: (i'm being very generous here). 1 big bottle of 1 litre : 50 bucks
Selling price : 200.

Profit margin of 4 times. Don't u think it's way overpriced?
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4 times?? here it is..

http://www.lampeberger.com/search_results....ntry=eucalyptus

if change tu malaysia...about more then 100buck..emm..about price i can't comment coz i didnt know about tax or other charge for import product.. i'm so sorry...give me time so check the price..
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QUOTE(Tctf @ Jun 7 2008, 03:40 PM)
ermm... i think in hong kong ppl start ban lb already.
y stil want to talk with this topic again?
yet got ppl defence lb one, he make a choice to defence it since he in that business.
so we dont join them, and dont talk with them lor. their feel their are right, time will tell mah.
and if them get rich, them will said, is my hardwork $$. lolz.
but their didnt relies network busi, once the name start busuk. that is the end of it.. good luck bro who in lb mlm.
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i like ur way bro...just dok diam..dont talk to much if u have a good life..is it rite? why blame if u not interested to join?? not to defence but give a right info...thanks..
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So boring...once in a while...a LB conman come in, saying the same old things again, beating around the bushes

Plz give us something new, k?
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QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 7 2008, 04:19 PM)
prove it..prove the all burger guy honest.. i dont want to bashing burger guy or kacau their biz...coz their biz is their biz...but i know what burger guy do..just silent..if u think our biz con u...so, just diam la...talk talk to much but u got nothing when u talk talk...if i say we are not cheating ppl..u not agreed..then diam la bro..
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i always diam 1. I voice out my concern on some of my frens who been conned 20k++ into this business. Yeah u maybe making a lot now. But trust me soon ur perigi emas going to dry up. Once almost all population of malaysia have heard Lampe Berger and now its a con business then its time for ppl like u to jump onanother mlm again.
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QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 7 2008, 03:19 PM)
prove it..prove the all burger guy honest.. i dont want to bashing burger guy or kacau their biz...coz their biz is their biz...but i know what burger guy do..just silent..if u think our biz con u...so, just diam la...talk talk to much but u got nothing when u talk talk...if i say we are not cheating ppl..u not agreed..then diam la bro..
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QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 7 2008, 03:46 PM)
4 times?? here it is..

http://www.lampeberger.com/search_results....ntry=eucalyptus

if change tu malaysia...about more then 100buck..emm..about price i can't comment coz i didnt know about tax or other charge for import product.. i'm so sorry...give me time so check the price..
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I wouldn't rely on that price, but of cos it's unfair for me to deprove u by just that statement. Will do som research after this, wanna tengok bola dulu laugh.gif

U missed out my first post, my 2 argument on pyramid scheme.
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QUOTE(Tctf @ Jun 7 2008, 03:40 PM)
ermm... i think in hong kong ppl start ban lb already.
y stil want to talk with this topic again?
yet got ppl defence lb one, he make a choice to defence it since he in that business.
so we dont join them, and dont talk with them lor. their feel their are right, time will tell mah.
and if them get rich, them will said, is my hardwork $$. lolz.
but their didnt relies network busi, once the name start busuk. that is the end of it.. good luck bro who in lb mlm.
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In the end it is whether are you willing to do the right thing or not.

Ask yourself if you want to see students dropping out from college each year, cause they have been brainwashed that studying is useless. People dumping their study loan into a business that din work out.

If you have a friend or a family member who went through the "transformation" and inevitably failed and lose everything. Being attack in each and every psychological point till they become slaves of this new religion. Then you will know how its like.

Sweet talk and promises is one thing, reality is another.
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QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 7 2008, 03:46 PM)
4 times?? here it is..

http://www.lampeberger.com/search_results....ntry=eucalyptus

if change tu malaysia...about more then 100buck..emm..about price i can't comment coz i didnt know about tax or other charge for import product.. i'm so sorry...give me time so check the price..
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Hi Molerex,
No need to check already, just go to the Cash Concerter branch at Dataran Sunway, and a loads of 1 litre LB oil for sale at only RM 60 i think...Ha! Just go and stock it up yourself!!! drool.gif

If a company that have to tell ppl that they are doing investment or Franchising where in actual facts that they don't....That means there is something really wrong with the picture already...Imagine you go to a market and want to buy chicken and the fish seller kept telling you that his fish is also chicken.... drool.gif
To do proper franchising you need license from the Franschise Board and to do investment you need to get approval from SC...DCHL is not even listed in the board of direct selling in malaysia...http://www.dsam.org.my/list.html

So what is the nature of business of DCHL or RZ when they intially registered their company?!
You can't simply starts selling Donkey when you only have the license to sell Monkey only...

MLM is selling "products" and Pyramid is selling "membership"...Tell me what kind of product are you selling? How well you know about your product and what sort of training that your company provided for you to sell your product? Seems to be all they care is to sell you the membership...How many repeat order you have for each of downline? How much do you spend on the product yourself each month?

MLM needs fast moving and perishable goods to distribute and sell among the members and the entry fees has to be low...cause it's suppose to be a business that you can start on a very low basis...Amway only cause you less that RM 100 to become member...i think...and RM 2K for LB is definetely something else already...

Franschise means KFC or Starbucks...Heavy investment...but a proven business with qaulity control and centralise management...you don't see a Starbucks suddenly sell you a cup of "teh tarik" or a remote town KFC offer you a Sambal Fried Chicken....

Investment company....means you guys must be some real CFA or CPA cetified Financial Planner to offer investments plans that helps your client money grows...investment plans that govern by SC....Not like Sunshine Empire...See what happen to them now?

So it's about time you ask yourself the question like the Jackie Chan Movie..."Who Am I"!!!!
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i think.. cannot use this link as a source:
http://www.dsam.org.my/list.html

since cosway is not listed also.. hmm..
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molerex: u will admit tat u CON ppls money when u received the cash? all of SYN ppl is no difference from DCHL!
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anybody wanna start an anti Lb group on facebook?
thats another good place to educate n inform peeps bout dis so called biz..
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molerex = wanna know another cheap thing about your company ? my friend went for their talk 2 years back. guess what the fees was 2k++ and my friend told that he cant join cuz no money. Guess what the guy said, its ok i will pay for you 1k and u put in 1k cuz end of the month u will get back 2k, u can give me back.

Have u heard of any MLM like this ? they cheat how many student's life. how many ppl have been down. do you know the amount of cursing you guys get ?


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QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 6 2008, 06:14 PM)
3 -  SYN Partner can earn money when they get the ppl to join in this biz(commision la..)..means  Franchising biz..example...u are the HQ then u get the ppl to join as ur biz partner..u got the commision lor..like McD n KFC, got many branches rite? but to start McD biz u must have RM2.5million minimum as a capital..Actually partner in SYN can sell product if they have strong mind to confident the ppl to buy the product..but it little bit hard to sell when the price of product more then thousand ...is it rite? if u can sell go for it..but dont say we force u to sell the product... so we just give alternative to u... get the ppl to join the biz..when ppl join the biz with rm2.5k capital the company give the product as same price u pay...the other way our product go to market when ppl join our biz...is it SCAM?
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giving it another name wont cover it up: Ur upline recruit you, you pay him $$$. Ur upline earns % from your membership fees. After that, you will recruit 3 of your fren, all 3 of your fren pay u $$$, from this payment you will %, and ur upline also earn %, correct? From that moment, your 3 fren will recruit more ppl, when those ppl join, whatever $$$ they pay you will get % correct? How can you even call this franchising? When the company gives you the product, that is also movement within SYN only, just exchange hand from 1 member to another member, the product wont go into the general public. (*your fren pass u baton - you pass to your other fren) Since you claim to be doing franchising all the time - why is SYN/DCHL not registered in http://www.mfa.org.my/

QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 7 2008, 02:59 PM)
as i say...i've got nothing when my partner have the rank..pyramid scheme always the top guy got untung la....

aloo..all of company also make pyramid maa...have u seen  10 CEO and 1 clerk in ur company?? or 120 manager and 2 executive? NO la...mana leh jumpa ramai CEO dalam satu company.... CEO have a big staff..see the organisation chart...
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you orang always confuse Pyramid Scheme with a company's Organisational Chart, do you even know the difference?
when a CEO hires me to work for the company - I DO NOT PAY HIM to join the company - instead the company will pay me salary - the more sales i bring in, the more % i earn - I DO NOT go around asking ppl to join my company.

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QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 6 2008, 06:47 PM)
thanks

i agree with u..all ppl will feel bad when they face the ppl that blame u everytime....that partner not wrong..but 'tak perasan' give some talk make the ppl angry...honestly ...my network not like this bro...i feel shock when u say have SYNer talk to blame ppl life...

about the product price..frankly speaking..i don't know about retail price...thanks for remind me to check it... but for me..import product should be mahal la..like import car...siam lain lor..hehehe

refund concept..when u join our biz then after that u not interested to do the biz :

  100% refund policy if cancellation of distributorship is within ten (10) working days of "Cooling of Period" from date of joining

    90% of the refund policy if cancellation of distributorship and return of products are within three (3) month from the date of invoice (biasa lor..dah amik 3 bln sudah jadi secondhand lorr..heheh)
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a stupid oil/lap wont cost more than rm2k rite? u cant compare an imported car n etc with lb? my fren used to tlak like u, this blah blah blah.....but in the end, all gone. i mean u pay at ferrari price but got a proton car...only idiots will say it's a good deal.........


QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2008, 08:27 PM)
This business con people kaw kaw. I have more respect to those bro selling burgers by the street than this type of people. At least they do honest business and cook good food.
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QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 7 2008, 02:52 PM)
cheat for what?? ppl pay ppl got product..so?? like buy the computer...buy n u've got item
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pay 2k for some stupid lamp/oil? any scientific proof or papers to prove it besides all those scandals? damn, i hate this syn......ruins ppl life.......


QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 7 2008, 03:09 PM)
emmm...
how many kfc in malaysia? more then 100...i didnt say m/plan same as McD or KFC..i said we do franchising like McD n KFC..when u want to open the McD or KFC..u must have a product from HQ .. u cannot make ur own burger...Then HQ will provide u a staff to running ur biz.. our company provide u a education to learn biz..not buta-buta running...understand 1st then running the biz..
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kfc/mcd don cost 2k sekali masuk la. if u said franchise is plain dumb, how can u call this a business when u don sell anything? u jus con ppl to join n 'upgrade' themself........it sounds nice but in reality......i had heard n went to that place myself. i can tell u tat at first, it sounded great by finding some morons who lease a bmw to showoff but later when i really think, this is not an ethical business at all. so as long as there is a flow of idiots going in, then u got business.....if it stops....then u all gulung tikar. so how can u call this a business when u only have one plan which only recruit ppl? tat was plain dumb........btw, if u all are successful.......i think when i was there, u all already belanja me makan to convince me instead of taking me to some foodcourt and tell me tat this stall is good..... rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(molerex @ Jun 7 2008, 03:19 PM)
prove it..prove the all burger guy honest.. i dont want to bashing burger guy or kacau their biz...coz their biz is their biz...but i know what burger guy do..just silent..if u think our biz con u...so, just diam la...talk talk to much but u got nothing when u talk talk...if i say we are not cheating ppl..u not agreed..then diam la bro..
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no one can prove tat burger guy is honest but one can prove tat syn is dishonest and unethical. we all cant jus diam cos we all cant just let u to con others. my fren nearly bankrupt bcos of syn......jus open ur eyes n see how unethical this business is, if this is a ethical business, i'm sure u wont get flamed like this.......search for syn/lb.....how many website got good comments on this. saw some syn members blog/forum....man, they talk like an idiot with some stupid vision.....bmw, benz, big house, cosy rest......

QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 7 2008, 09:07 PM)
i always diam 1. I voice out my concern on some of my frens who been conned 20k++ into this business. Yeah u maybe making a lot now. But trust me soon ur perigi emas going to dry up. Once almost all population of malaysia have heard Lampe Berger and now its a con business then its time for ppl like u to jump onanother mlm again.
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yeah....agree with this. but now they all are 'sourcing' the well at other states now. in few yrs time, i hope tat he could still talk as 'loud' as he is now.......wish u all the best and don get bankrupt, ok? thumbup.gif


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molerex: 1 advice for u....u r just Steven Yeam's slave! U generate money for him only!
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i just threw away one Lamp few days ago. Waste of money kena con by ppl to buy long time ago ...
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actually what iz business iz about? laz week my bf's fren into him to this business.. and i was involve in to.. they forced us to join and pay deposit.. total 1st investment iz rm 2345 (if i'm nt mistaken) iz it true that money can be earn so easily..? (that question keeps on my mind until nw) they talked a lot, asked me what course do i take (i'm a college student as well) they provided a lot of example that can make me think twice to cntinue my study nw.. they r keeping pass from one to anothr ppl.. i was there for 7 hours.. =.=" the weird plc that i realized was each person can say out the same thing seems like they hv arrange wat they shud say and wat they shudnt..

Luckily i stil can use my brain to think rational and at last refused to join (even though we had pay rm 100 for deposit). iz this business legal? jz curious... icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(yezhacolic @ Jun 15 2008, 01:17 PM)
actually what iz business iz about? laz week my bf's fren into him to this business.. and i was involve in to.. they forced us to join and pay deposit.. total 1st investment iz rm 2345 (if i'm nt mistaken) iz it true that money can be earn so easily..? (that question keeps on my mind until nw) they talked a lot, asked me what course do i take (i'm a college student as well) they provided a lot of example that can make me think twice to cntinue my study nw.. they r keeping pass from one to anothr ppl.. i was there for 7 hours.. =.=" the weird plc that i realized was each person can say out the same thing seems like they hv arrange wat they shud say and wat they shudnt..

Luckily i stil can use my brain to think rational and at last refused to join (even though we had pay rm 100 for deposit). iz this business legal? jz curious... icon_idea.gif
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if u r in your rational mind you won't pay tat rm100 as deposit...juz walk off, this business is legal... in away of coz wink.gif reset your mind and forget bout this LB crapz trust me.... nod.gif
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QUOTE(yezhacolic @ Jun 15 2008, 01:17 PM)
actually what iz business iz about? laz week my bf's fren into him to this business.. and i was involve in to.. they forced us to join and pay deposit.. total 1st investment iz rm 2345 (if i'm nt mistaken) iz it true that money can be earn so easily..? (that question keeps on my mind until nw) they talked a lot, asked me what course do i take (i'm a college student as well) they provided a lot of example that can make me think twice to cntinue my study nw.. they r keeping pass from one to anothr ppl.. i was there for 7 hours.. =.=" the weird plc that i realized was each person can say out the same thing seems like they hv arrange wat they shud say and wat they shudnt..

Luckily i stil can use my brain to think rational and at last refused to join (even though we had pay rm 100 for deposit). iz this business legal? jz curious... icon_idea.gif
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they wanna do brainwashing or NLP on you to join them...once u join them u r part of them and do the samething to others!

QUOTE(destiny6 @ Jun 15 2008, 02:36 PM)
if u r in your rational mind you won't pay tat rm100 as deposit...juz walk off, this business is legal... in away of coz  wink.gif  reset your mind and forget bout this LB crapz trust me.... nod.gif
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I will pay him 1 million as deposit with this notes:

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kewl thread. in for the hype.
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^but wat would he? this thread seems to generate more hate towards SYN/LB than love towards it.
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QUOTE(chatwarrior @ Jun 16 2008, 11:16 PM)
Threadstarter,

I think you are very childish to give such a reply.

So is it true that Steven Yeam paid you to maintain this thread ?
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Yo!! Friend! What happened to all those poor souls who got conned by SYN were all real people...and this site is all about helpng those who were caught in the mess and alert people about their evil ways...

I really have no idea which side are you on man...you have such low conprehesive skills and seems to be all in for the story that Steven Yeam going to tell you, then my friend i wish you good luck in joining them and making money and stay happy and have a wonderful life...But if you want to meet up and talk about your side of the story then i'm all ready for it man!!! Send me a pm to meet up...I'll be there!!

Use your own brain to think whether it make sense or not...Has anyone that you hate and bad mouthed all around pay you even a sen to talk more bad stuff about them ah!!!???? Imagine you hated your boss so much then you kutuk him or her gau gau and then what??! You get promoted ah!!!??

You think what?? This is Hong Kong or Taiwan entertaiment scene ah?? Celebrity being rumoured that so and so fall in love or may be having affair or perhaps gay...then what?? You get more publicity and thus more famous is it??

In Business world, reputation is everything....BAD reputation means THE END to your business!! That's why big company ALWAYS respond real quick and fast to bad rumour and news...Look at how Silverbird (the High5 roti maker) responded to their roti being manufactured in unclean manner.

Ok, chatwarrior....Just imagine this...Those counterfeit Microsoft copies are being sponsor by Bill Gates, pirated CD are making a lot of money for recording companies....What do you think?

Remember to pm me ok? i want to meet you! And bring you to Steven!!! The Black Steven!! Ha! At Steven's Corner at least you can drink and eat....I belanja you!
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QUOTE(chatwarrior @ Jun 16 2008, 11:16 PM)
Threadstarter,

I think you are very childish to give such a reply.

So is it true that Steven Yeam paid you to maintain this thread ?
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Wat makes u say im childish? then how about u chatwarrior?

I know u r foolish rite? become steven yeam slaves! and I know steven yeam send u here to counter us rite?

Bcos Staeven Yeam bisnes drop already? thumbup.gif


Let me tell u tat....this thread is a "free trade" which is no money involved! same to those blogs on the 1st page of this thread:

http://antilampeberger.blogpsot.com

http://lampebergerhelp.blogspot.com
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Anyway, these days I'm very free. Who is from LB please PM me, I want to go to your site and give a visit and see how powerful that brainwashing session. I wanna wash eye as well, so do PM me yeah.


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guyz! check this out!~

http://www.carigold.com/portal/forums/showthread.php?t=29411

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=13169
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i thought somewhere in the middle we already discussed why SYN was a screwup? with details?
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oh, right. tl;dr. haha. so, uh, thats all the syn people had to say about it? that it was just mud-slinging?
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next time when those LB guys told u how luxury they can be if joining LB, got big car like Merz, BMW....reply to them using our PM & DPM famous quote

"ubahlah gaya hidup anda"

hahahaha, i think for the first time the quote is usable for LB guys...hahahahah
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QUOTE(chatwarrior @ Jun 17 2008, 10:36 PM)
Who is going to search and read "somewhere in the middle" with so many pages ?

Just put all the points in the first thread enough la. The OP is only providing childish arguements here that helps as a motivation to those LB people.
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Dear Chatwarrior,
This is a thread....that means people post message and in times to come it will become a long thread....Do you know what is the meaning of thread in the first place?? Here's the explaination from the dictionary:
to pass continuously through the whole course of (something); pervade: A joyous quality threaded the whole symphony.

Then off course my friend, it will become really long and have alot of "in the middle" pages lah!!! See!! Even with you, the thread has expanded another 2 pages!!

My friend, if all of these points can turn into arguements for SYN, then i think all of you who believe in all the craps are really becoming LB already.....I mean "Low B"....

Chatwarrior, how about asking your so called leader to show proof that he indeed paid anyone a sen ah?? Think Steven who's so kedekut will want to pay anyone anything ah!!

The Fact: Amway made RM75 millions of turnover for last fiscal year, 2007. It shown in all major newspaper and Amway shares are trading at around RM6 plus now...Think they will pay bonuses this year too. Any proof that DCHL are making all those zillions godzillions that Steven loves to mentioned in his seminar?? How much are you guys making?? Seriously?? Because by your claims, you should be making tons of money more that Amway...

The Truth: People are easily fooled...Either by greed or by fear, Millions of ringgit were being conned every year, in fact more that hundreds of cases has been reported just as of last month, how they were being cheated? Same old tricks...Washing of black money into US dollar, Hit the lottery from Hong Kong, Won some fabalous prizes....Now even cases of being summoned to court, then tried to ask you to bank in money to settle out of court...etc....

And look at your dear friend here: http://profiles.friendster.com/chong8282
So pathetic...Small House squeeze in two cars that is obviously cost more than the house...Another case of setting priority upside down....Money= Car, Handphone, LV, desingner clothes......

At seminar, Steven talked about making money so that you can give the best to your family...But all of the SYN people NEVER NEVER in my life seems to have any friends or even families...they are just a bunch of lost and confused, who either made money and pampered himself or left a lot of shit to the family...loans and lost of trust among family members...

Chatwarrior, why you never pm me?? I want to see you!! Bring me to your leader!!!!
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Not Lampe Berger specifically, but MLM nontheless.

Last time got this friend ask us to come to her house for sister's "special occasion" and got makan - she would not say what "special occasion" was, so thought the sister getting engaged or something.

Turned out it was one of those recruitment things.. got projector some more.. wanted to leave there and then.. but my wife told me don't be rude.. so just buat pekak and ate the food only la..

Quite funny though.. while I was eating, got mak cik approach me showing pay cheque (but 3 months old already).. and of course start talking about millionaire and drive merc etc.. I asked (1) why never cash the cheque, (2) can show bank statement, and (3) why want to share money with people, if your product and business model is so good?? Any sane people would do the complete opposite, right??? Then she left me alone.. smile.gif

I think its especially disgusting when they start showing verses from the holy book, something about doing business is good etc... and worse still, got friends quoting all this in email solitications etc. I guess religion also can 'jalan' as long as can 'con' people.. goes to show how low these ppl can go...

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