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Sony-Ericsson All new G900 and G700 from SonyEricsson, G for giraffe? 'G' is the new 'N'-series

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post Aug 18 2008, 08:50 PM

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to all G900 users, any bad reviews about the camera? i have heard the camera is not good although 5MP.. but the wifi/ internet is superb... I'm planning to get one. Can someone quote me the price for this phone?
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post Aug 18 2008, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(demio121 @ Aug 18 2008, 09:33 AM)
That C702 dun use Symbian rite??? i am slowly getting use to the Symbian response.  My friend bought the W350i and over the weekedn i was flipping it... make me wonder why a phone costinng less than half is much faster den mine but then over the wkend, my Google Mobile Map on my G900 help me find my way in a foreign country.
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my non-symbian SE C702 also got GPS/google map... biggrin.gif

the icons are large, cool animation, fast response....
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QUOTE(LittleCow @ Aug 18 2008, 09:35 PM)
my non-symbian SE C702 also got GPS/google map...  biggrin.gif

the icons are large, cool animation, fast response....
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ada ke??? i tot its oni for symbian phone. 2pid me. GMM is free la but kena ada internet baru can work. not very useful when searching for direction is some forsaken area.
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post Aug 18 2008, 11:56 PM

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No offense and not bashing the phone. Sorry. I have switched to n82. ^^
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QUOTE(masterzombie @ Aug 16 2008, 06:08 PM)
How to change the CDA of your G900

Sorry for the almost 1 month delay, but heres how to change your G900 to generic world (or any other firmware if you have the CDA code). It should be pretty easy to understand, if you have any questions pm me, but I might not reply soon (and I don't know everything too).
This also works for M600, P1i, W960, P990, and other SE UIQ3 Symbian smartphones. (not sure about older ones).

DISCLAIMER: If you do something wrong, it is possible that you will BRICK your G900. DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK
This most probably will VOID your warranty. (not sure about this).


Why would I want to change it?
o Firmware updates are released for the Generic World CDAs before any localized CDAs (especially eastern ones).
o You can change it to any localized firmware too, if you know the code.

Any side effects?
o No Chinese support with the Generic World CDA. You can change yours from Singapore to Hong Kong etc if you still want Chinese, but it wont make much difference.

What do I need?
Hardware:
o The phone, of course.
o PC with USB port, and preferably Windows XP. If you have Vista, run XS++ in XP compatibility mode to be sure. Make sure SEUS is working first!!!
o DCU 65 or DCU 60 (USB data cable). The one that comes with your phone (in Malaysia) usually is DCU 65.

Software:
o Sony Ericsson Update Service (SEUS). You probably have this on the CD that came with your phone. If not, download it.
o XS++. You can download it from here.
o HexWorkshop from here. You can use any hex editor of course, but this one is pretty good with built in checksum calculators (which will be needed).
All the software is free. It won't cost you anything if you do it right (except time).

Finally, thanks to mut@nt's post describing the procedure for an M600, which works the same with the G900.

First of all you can see your firmware versions by opening the Menu. Touch More, and touch System Information. It will give you the firmware versions. Write them down somewhere.

Steps:

1. Run SEUS. Follow the instructions. If it doesn't find new software for your phone then continue.
2. Disconnect the phone, and remove the battery.
3. Put the battery back in again.
4. Unzip XS++ in a folder (don't run it directly from the zip file, it needs a folder).
5. Run XS++
6. Tick the box called "SMARTPHONE CONNECT".
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7. Turn the phone off if you turned it on again. Remove the battery and put it back again.
8. Click on the "Connect" button in XS++. It will ask you connect the phone in the same way you did in SEUS.
9. Hold down the "C" button on your phone.
10. Connect the USB cable to the phone (and the PC if you removed it, of course).
11. It will start detecting the phone and give a few messages. DO NOT RELEASE THE "C" BUTTON!
12. When its done you'll get a message "Ready for Operation". Now its safe to release the button.
user posted image
NOTE: When you have the old CDA, XS++ might detect it as a W960 (I took this screenshot AFTER modding). It does not matter, its ok.

13. Don't touch anything else in XS++.
14. Click on the GDFS circle in the Configuration group.
15. You should see a button called "Backup GDFS". Click on it.
16. It will start saving the GDFS file. It will take about 30 seconds - 1 minute.
17. After its done, go to the folder where you unzipped the XS++ software. There should be another folder called "Backup" inside.
18. In the Backup folder, there will be one .BIN file with its name something like "W960_************_GDFS_BACKUP.bin".
19. Make a copy of the file, and don't touch it.

20. Install Hex Workshop if you haven't already.
21. Open Hex Workshop. Click on Options>Preferences, and under Columns, there will be a drop down box titled "Group by:". Select "2 (short)". Apply and click OK.
22. Open the BIN file in Hex Workshop.
23. You should see something like this:
user posted image
Most of won't make sense, but we don't need most of it.

24. Scroll to the very end of the file.
25. Now on the right you will see the firmware versions of your phone. This is what we need to change.
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26. The one at the very end is the CDA firmware. You need to change it to the Generic World 1 version. The code for the Generic World 1 is:
CDA: 1204-3148 R6J825
(The one you see in the screenshot is my old CDA firmware versions.)

27. When changing the text, you cannot select all and replace. You need to place the flashing thing before the letter you want to edit and type. It will automatically overwrite it.
28. So put the cursor before the CDA code starts and type "1204-3148" and click before 'R' and type "R6J825" (without the quotes of course). Don't type in the periods, it will change the hex code.
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Left: Before
Right: After

29. So now you should have the same number of letters. Only the letters are different.
30. This is the important part. If this is not done right, it WILL NOT work.
Select exactly the same letters (on the right side) as in the picture below. Starting from the 2 dots before the first version number, to the last letter of the CDA version.
user posted image

31. Click on Tools, then on "Generate Checksum".
32. Just click on "Generate"
33. On the bottom right you will see a lot of checksums and CRCs.
user posted image

Note the value of the 8-bit checksum (Checksum-8, the first one). This will probably be different for you, its ok. The value will have two letters/numbers.

34. On the left side, (as in the picture) there should be a block "000D" after the selected part. In the next block, change the first two letters to the value of the 8-bit checksum. Be careful not to change anything else.
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35. Save the file under another name (but as a .bin file).

34. Connect and turn on the phone the same way as earlier using XS++.

35. Under the GDFS tab, beside the "Restore GDFS" button, select the modified .bin file.

36. Click on Restore GDFS. Might take a minute or two.

37. After its done, and XS++ disconnects the phone, take out the battery, put it back in and restart. You should now see TWO firmware versions under CDA. This is normal. But if you don't see two versions, it means you did something wrong.

38. Update the phone using SEUS, it should now detect it as Generic World 1, and will download the updated firmware. It will take a while though, depending on your internet connection.

39. After SEUS finishes everything, restart and you should see the latest firmware version and only one CDA version.

If it doesn't work, just restore the original GDFS, and your phone should be the same as earlier.


Added on August 16, 2008, 6:13 pm sweat.gif the post turned out to be much bigger than I thought
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where the picture gone?? yesterday i see this guide with pictures??

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post Aug 19 2008, 12:26 PM

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i see the pic in the priginal post and also i see the picture in your reply oso. u still not seeing any pic?
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post Aug 19 2008, 02:09 PM

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ok...sudah settle... my office firewall block...
now i can see...smile.gif
thanx to masterzombie for the guide...
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post Aug 19 2008, 06:06 PM

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cool!!
google map works on this fone? i tot only on s60....
meaning, we would only need internet line? although no built in gps chipset?
that would solve the gps issues brows.gif brows.gif
although no turn by turn or voice assisted navigation, but at least there is a simple gps fuction rite? brows.gif brows.gif

Still doubt whether i should get this or samsung g810 as sammy's fone spec is way more promising than this..... price is not a matter, as its a company fone.... tongue.gif tongue.gif
but touchscreen is addicitve.... biggrin.gif
guys, any help?
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post Aug 19 2008, 06:14 PM

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zombie, and those who can help to change G900 to GW1,

Here's my .bin file. anything sharp eyes to see what's wrong ? p.s. sorry, had to zip it because lowyat no allow to upload .bin

I followed step-by-step, (no problems with XS++), as well as highligting the strings, and ensuring 000D and 02 (8-bit checksum) is there, and send the new bin file to phone, and i got 2 CDAs, but SEUS still say phone is updated..
HELP!


Added on August 19, 2008, 6:21 pm
QUOTE(charles_nkj @ Aug 19 2008, 06:06 PM)
cool!!
google map works on this fone? i tot only on s60....
meaning, we would only need internet line? although no built in gps chipset?
that would solve the gps issues brows.gif  brows.gif
although no turn by turn or voice assisted navigation, but at least there is a simple gps fuction rite? brows.gif  brows.gif

Still doubt whether i should get this or samsung g810 as sammy's fone spec is way more promising than this..... price is not a matter, as its a company fone....  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
but touchscreen is addicitve.... biggrin.gif
guys, any help?
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I've got Garmin XT (using holux m1000) installed on my G900 (previously from p1i). not a problem...


Added on August 19, 2008, 6:29 pmmy CDA:
1210-0066 R2A
1205-0646 RGH815


Added on August 19, 2008, 11:07 pmis there any script for XS++ for G900?? Previously, when i flash my P1i, it was simpler.

anyway, zombie, on the 000D part, my hex did not have that! ??? mine was different. I changed it to 000D, and didn't work. I left it as it is, and didn't work too. SEUS still say, no update available. I followed your instructions to the d.o.t.!

so sad.. i want GW1, because on my previous P1i, i successfully changed the CDA to GW1 and updated via SEUS, and it ran faster, fonts had anti-liasing, yada, yada.

This post has been edited by kee leong: Aug 19 2008, 11:07 PM


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Attached File  G900_19Aug08_6pm.zip ( 12.19k ) Number of downloads: 100
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post Aug 20 2008, 01:57 AM

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Hi Kee,

If there was a script for the G900 it would've been much much easier, but unfortunately there isn't. Which is why I posted the guide. (I don't know how to make a script.)

Can you upload the original bin file? The unmodified one. If it did not have 000D you weren't supposed to add it tongue.gif though I don't know how you managed to get 2 CDAs anyway.

But remember, if it doesn't work, just restore the original GDFS tongue.gif

GW1 is noticeably faster, especially the touch scrolling of zoomed images. smile.gif

QUOTE(kee leong @ Aug 19 2008, 06:14 PM)
zombie, and those who can help to change G900 to GW1,

Here's my .bin file. anything sharp eyes to see what's wrong ? p.s. sorry, had to zip it because lowyat no allow to upload .bin

I followed step-by-step, (no problems with XS++), as well as highligting the strings, and ensuring 000D and 02 (8-bit checksum) is there, and send the new bin file to phone, and i got 2 CDAs, but SEUS still say phone is updated..
HELP!


Added on August 19, 2008, 6:21 pm

I've got Garmin XT (using holux m1000) installed on my G900 (previously from p1i). not a problem...


Added on August 19, 2008, 6:29 pmmy CDA:
1210-0066 R2A
1205-0646 RGH815


Added on August 19, 2008, 11:07 pmis there any script for XS++ for G900?? Previously, when i flash my P1i, it was simpler.

anyway, zombie, on the 000D part, my hex did not have that! ??? mine was different. I changed it to 000D, and didn't work. I left it as it is, and didn't work too. SEUS still say, no update available. I followed your instructions to the d.o.t.!

so sad.. i want GW1, because on my previous P1i, i successfully changed the CDA to GW1 and updated via SEUS, and it ran faster, fonts had anti-liasing, yada, yada.
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post Aug 20 2008, 09:41 PM

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I just won one on Superbid today. Ori set at RM1240. Should be picking it up on Fri or Monday. rclxm9.gif

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post Aug 20 2008, 11:32 PM

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hi masterzombie, well after i restored the original gdfs, the 2 cda are still there...
anyway, i noticed that xs++ recognise it as the new firmware, but SEUS says no updates....

any clue?

i will post my original gdfs later.
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post Aug 21 2008, 12:41 AM

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Hi Masterzombie,

Here is my original GDFS.

Note to the rest, please do not use other GDFS (even your friend's same model) except your own (or your own modified). I read around and they say if you do use other GDFS from other phones (same model), it will brick your phone, i.e. kaput!

Hmmmm... re-comment.. somebody else said, no problem using other GDFS because like XS++, it's a generic GDFS.. i confused liao..

This post has been edited by kee leong: Aug 21 2008, 11:33 PM


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Attached File  originalG900_35388602xxxxxx_GDFS_BACKUP.zip ( 12.21k ) Number of downloads: 128
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post Aug 25 2008, 04:38 PM

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tis phone specs is great.. so much features.. XD i'll be getting tis phone at abt october or mayb november.. wan to wait for de price drop more.. $$ =)
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Just got my phone today. Had a little bit of problem with wi-fi connection initially. The phone crashed but after updating the firmware its' running smoothly now! rclxms.gif
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post Aug 25 2008, 11:23 PM

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Can anyone tell me the latest pricing for the G700 and G900 AP set? Thanx!
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post Aug 26 2008, 01:22 PM

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hey there,
May i know, G900 Supports what kind of images? Jpeg?
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post Aug 26 2008, 02:48 PM

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yes, u can view jpg files on G900.
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I was suppose to check on the G900 price last Friday at Atlantis SS2, PJ but went to the wrong shop which is a few shops away, didn't check what is the shop name.

G900 AP set without bluetooth headset: RM 1,230
G900 Ori set with bluetooth headset: RM 1,580
G900 Ori set without bluetooth headset: RM 1,500

I'm still doing survey on the phone before buying it.

BTW, can anyone tell me what is the model of the bluetooth headset that comes together with the phone?
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post Aug 26 2008, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(ooj @ Aug 20 2008, 09:41 PM)
I just won one on Superbid today. Ori set at RM1240. Should be picking it up on Fri or Monday.  rclxm9.gif
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congrats, the price is very reasonable..
cheap actually, definitely a good buy.. thumbup.gif

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