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Sony-Ericsson All new G900 and G700 from SonyEricsson, G for giraffe? 'G' is the new 'N'-series
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demio121
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Jul 1 2008, 10:26 PM
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I am in SG now and tried this phone earlier. its SGD688 here. original and without any contract. translate to about RM1670 (give or take the xchange rate diff).
There is a slight delay in respond but i think its much better than the Samsung Omnia i tested also. The rest of the phone look pretty much like the old SE menu. I am gonna be here for a while so i'll wait for the price to go down further before committing. The G900 have gone from $768 when i arrive a month ago to $688 now.
The one thing i wish its better is the UI graphic. It's not as "groovy" as iPhone or the Samsung F480 but i think this might change with theme (well at least that i how the SE menu works...!!!). BTW this one is not HSDPA?
This post has been edited by demio121: Jul 1 2008, 10:41 PM
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demio121
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Jul 2 2008, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jul 2 2008, 07:38 AM) Both the usual M2 and Ultra M2 will work for G900. However, the speed/performance boost is as much as what is supported on the G900's internal memory card controller. So far the speed for the usual M2 is quite fast on the G900. I would commit for capacity rather than speed for now. Anyway if you're the type that likes to swap M2 cards around and use an external card reader for read/write large files, then an Ultra M2 would be nice. Well Symbian OS executes a program faster than WM actually. Maybe because each Symbian OS (be it S60/UIQ/etc) is tailored to a specific phone architecture. WM however caters to a wide audience. Don't get me wrong, the OS is tailored and optimized for a phone too. But the applications by 3rd parties however are hard to control. Maybe that could take anywhere between 1 to a few seconds for application launching. But I have to agree that WM's OS is more complex and demanding due to its resource requirement. Actually the UIQ interface has been the same for many generations now. It has been touched up and optimized for G900 especially with the addition of panels, smoother transitions, better thumb/finger operation, a nice camera interface and inclusion of Media Center. However, much of the other interface remains the same or somewhat simplified. I don't think the themes could do any change because currently, G900 do not support Flash lite on its wallpaper/home screen. So Flash UI remains the impossible at the moment. orite... now i m blur sotong with dis mobile technology. So can this G900 change the UI theme to look different? my W850 have pretty cool theme. The G900 theme is more mature biz looking but something more groovy would be nice.
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demio121
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Jul 3 2008, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE(dav668 @ Jul 2 2008, 05:46 PM) Hoping that this phone is not lagging, especially for opening the incoming message. G900 should work faster than Symbian phone, does it? G900 runs Symbian ler fren... Symbian v9.1 with UIQ 3.0 best is you go try it yourself. Feel the touchscreen, look at the menu... start d mp3 player and then start moving around the menu to see if there is any performance issue. i will tell you that Win Mobile is slow but a WM user will tell you otherwise...!!! its very much up to the user. This post has been edited by demio121: Jul 3 2008, 08:16 AM
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demio121
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Jul 3 2008, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(amdx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:35 PM) switching from p910i, m600i, p1i and G900. i would say... p1i has the zappy speed. G900 is too early to tell as the firmware is still new, i believe once the updated firmware released.. it would be as snappy as p1i. i duno, i felt g900 a bit laggy... especially on the touch response. UI transition is fine.. just the touch response a bit lag. just my two cents. anyway.. i've sold my g900 for e71  still kenot forgo the QWERTY after e61, e61i and now e71. brilliant! sorry ak.. no offence at all. me oso SE fans  u sold your G900??? how long u have it?
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demio121
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Jul 3 2008, 11:14 PM
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the SE i hold on my hand now last me 4 years...!!! My other phone is my wife's spare. i am that cheap.
now aiming for the G900. Its SGD688 i found here with standard blah blah blah + 1GB + a base model bluetooth handfree. Its was $768 when i arrive here a month ago. so i'll wait a couple of month before i buy.
forum @ Hardwarezone.com.sg hv some pretty lively dicsussion about G900.
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demio121
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Jul 6 2008, 10:00 AM
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cudn't not resist anymore. back home yest and bought a dark brown unit. RM1.7k with 2GB M2 and bluetooth + the rest of the std blah... blah... blah...
my first eva PDA phone. previously got a dopod but give up after 2 week. i am so used to SE after after 7 years using E and SE model. Still trying to figure out how dis Symbian thing work.
anyone know where i can get free theme?
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demio121
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Jul 7 2008, 08:00 PM
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nid u guys G900 owner help. since i got d phone on Sat, life is running on 25hr a day. no time to even find out abt d phone.
i have some number stored in my SIM. i cant seems to view my SIM number. in the end i hv to pinjam a phone to retrieve the number. I notice when i go into the contact, i got to "more - view folder - SIM"... nothing came out. any advise.
i'll be settled in a couple of day. hopefully then i can install my software and all.
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demio121
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Jul 8 2008, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(rayzrblade @ Jul 7 2008, 10:28 PM) The G900 is living proof that even a sole speaker can sound very well. yeap... G900 speaker is rather good. even when i try Madonna's 4 minute its still reasonably OK for a speaker phone. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Finally found some time to install the software. I have the same problem with my previous W850 when installing the PC Suite, somehow my connected phone is not detected. I have the same prob again last nite. realli fuming ler... oni after i un-installa nd re-install the PC Suite i manage to get both file transfer and phone mode to work. A word of advise... if you plan to update your phone software for the first time, find time like 2hr to spend. Downloading that update service software will take some time.... then install and downloading update will take sometime again. not forgeting b4 u update backup and this also take a while. The update procedure is rather tricky and need some patience. at time instruction ask u to remove batt la, press "C" button and u sit and wonder why no progress.... thing will take some time to come back alive...!!! oso when doin backup... for a while there is like nothign happeing during the phone reset...!!! so be patience... after sitting thru like 2hr... my update finally tell me "there is no update. your phone is using the latest software". well, i take it a learning how to use G900 lesson...
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demio121
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Jul 9 2008, 12:27 AM
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today pondering to get the wireless bluetooth or wired stereo headset. the default is earpiece is not "stylo" la... HBH-DS980 sell for $152 (offer price). me staring @ another empty wallet soon.
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demio121
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Jul 9 2008, 09:24 AM
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you try the wireless stereo bluetooth before? how's the quality. I was using W850i and the default earpiece is good enough for me. Radio is not too important to me.
I just don't want to buy a wireless then regret about the sound quality. These wireless thing, most shop don't allow testing, unlike the phone. All wrap in boxes nicely.
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demio121
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Jul 9 2008, 12:50 PM
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if imaging is of prime concern, get a compact camera. I have not try the new C-series phone but at teh time of release even the K8xx series phone quality is acceptable. Its good among camera phone but if you are picky about picture quality, compact camera is still better.
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demio121
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Jul 10 2008, 12:42 PM
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a c2pid Q to ask here.
the G900 runs on Symbian 9.1 with UIQ 3.0. when i search for application, do i search for Symbian 9.1 or UIQ 3.0 apps?
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demio121
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Jul 11 2008, 09:28 AM
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Got myself the HBH-DS220 bluetooth headset. Sounds is OK to me. I'll probably upgrade the earpiece to something better later. Should have got the 200 model as it comes with earplug (220 come with in-ear) since i am gonna upgarde the earpiece anyway. Pairing is simple. I just pair once, the rest i just swithc on and auto pairing. I wish there is more remote function. it only have play and stop function on the blurtooth. I wanted 980 model but 980 do not have 3.5mm jack, so i am stuck with the default earpiece.
install the trial version of handy expense too. so far its good. help me keep track of my expenses while i m away at a foreign land. Its a simple one to use. I might buy the full version soon. i think its $11 if i purchase online in the next 3 days.
I have been using S ans SE phone for the last 7-8 years (my last 4 phone are S or SE) and this G900 need some getting used to. Some function either they are missing or i have yet to find it. Like profile... i am still looking for it. Th touchscreen thing is not exactly touchscreen as i would put it, especially scrolling. For instance, i kept a pdf copy of the train system but it's won't scroll with touchscreen... well, u can touch the scroll bar to scroll... which i thought its not so convenient as the scroll bar is not that big for my fingers. Also when you reach some menu and you see a scroll bar, well, take the stylus out then... The media player is cool, almost (i have not really 100% tried all function yet) touch-able. scrolling the different music files, picture or video, work with the finger well. The media interface is pretty cool, not like those other menu.
2 major grouse i have is the software and also respond time. The SE software since my W850i have given me the same old problem. I start the software and plug in my phone, sometime the software just don't see my phone. i gotta unplug then plug in again. at time gotta do this a few time. demn... can't the improve this??? also the procedure can be headache... especially the update service. when doin the update, at time i don't know if things are still working or i am waiting for durian runtuh... and not to mention the "press C button, pull the battery out... blah blah blah... steps". My old Philips MP3 player have an easier update procedures.
ah... respond time. when i got this G900 i am expecting some wait time. At time its fast. i touch menu come up. sometime, i scroll the panel, its like things hang. i just leave my phone idle for a while and in a while (i don't go counting the second...) its OK. a little annoying but so far the machine have not totally hang on me that i nedd a hard reset.
The shortcut... it more like a macro to auto the menu. example... you select create sms... you can see on the screen, the whole process of going to the message menu, select create sms. and when you close, you see the same thing again in recerse order. not an issue but something i think can be imrpoved <- is this a Symbian or UIQ issue???
overall, i am OK with the G900. Lite PDA user who need a phone first then a PDA later will probably find this one fitting.
Now i got a question to ask... is the a Microsoft Outlook Today alike screen? i wanna see what is my task, appoitnment when i active the phone.
Next, i'll try watching movie and see what's the experience like.
BTW, anyone have used 4GB memory. The shop i bought told me i might encounter problem if i max the memory.
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demio121
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Jul 11 2008, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(quiksilve @ Jul 11 2008, 10:47 AM) So far my one has been running on the new sandisk m2 4GB, nope not a problem at all. Smooth operation The sales person did advise me if i go beyong that like 8GB, the problem is only might be slower in response time cause of the huge amount of data in the memory card trying to be read by the phone software. But i think when 16GB becomes a norm for phones, a software update might just do the trick in the near future. 8GB...!!! i thought the spec says max is 4GB only?
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demio121
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Jul 11 2008, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jul 11 2008, 02:11 PM) Actually the capacity problem does not result in the phone becoming unresponsive. You may have an 8GB memory card but if you're not filling it up yet or nowhere near the limit there is no such thing as a huge amount of data in memory. After all these are flash memory which is persistent. No power is required to hold them and you don't move and shift these data the entire 8GB block at the same time. Chances are you access the data the same you would do for any other smaller capacity cards. The problem comes from the resources required for the huge amount of addressing in a high capacity card. Depending on the hardware platform, it may not be game enough to handle such requirements. Especially those 16bit processors that is inefficient and require multiple clock cycles to complete one instruction. This is where the slowing down will happen. New phones or technically newer platforms with new MCUs should have solved this problem. Look at iphone 8GB, 16GB and even 32GB. Look at Touch Diamond and Omnia. Although these are built in, they are basically the equivalent of flash memory ICs. Just want to get this problem cleared. true... back in those 386 and 486 days... windows and office can run on like 64MB RAM. these days 2GB juz sufficient to run the OS alone. With faster processing power, programs get fancier and the vicious cycles start. I remember my family first ever mobile phone... the Motorola taikor tai 8000 series phone. man... there is not even memory to store phone number. I remember the shop telling my brother to get the Sony model, can store 3 phone number...!!! THREE...!!! How things change.
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demio121
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Jul 12 2008, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(Jeffery @ Jul 12 2008, 12:36 AM) how can I make sure that the phone using only WIFI to surf net but not 3G? I not dare to activate my 3G first because of this. in your phone network selection, chose oni GSM. in this case you turn off 3G. Wifi hotspot are pretty easy to spot these days. No need 3G... unless you are unlimited data plan, paying for surfing on 3G will cost you a bomb not to mention 3G (I ma not refering to HSDPA) is all hype no substance. Its reali slow.
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demio121
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Jul 12 2008, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(Fazz @ Jul 12 2008, 01:03 PM) erk, can Nokia BH-503 bluetooth headset produce a good & nice sound quality when using with G900? A word of advise if you wanna use Bluetooth headset for music. Its not gonna last long. I got the SE HBH-DS220 a few days ago. The sound is alright but i gotta charge like every other day. I am looking at getting HPM-82 or 90 for spare now. demn... this G900 is buring areal big hole in my pocket. that BH-503 does look cool though...
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demio121
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Jul 12 2008, 05:58 PM
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There is a function where at standby the screen look like Microsoft Outlook today. showing the daily calendar entry, inbox, task and missed call. Goto Setting - Display - Standby Application and choose business.
Catch is the touch panel is missing instead you get a list of shortcut that can open and collapse. Not very cool i must say. I'll stay with the touch panel for now. I am not that a busy man that i need to look at my Today to remind me of my life.
and a small report of my G900 and my BT headset. Yest suddenly my G900 is not transfering any sound to my bluetooth. I gotta reset my ohone to make it work again. don't kno why but after a song, its al silence. The controls are all still working but oni no sound on my BT headset.
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demio121
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Jul 12 2008, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(Jeffery @ Jul 12 2008, 08:03 PM) Ic... thx davidmak for answering my question. I found one solution for seperating 3G connection and WIFI for internet browsing. First, go to connection mgr then find internet account. Set ur 3G connection to one group and wifi AP for another group. And in setting, tick the show connection dialog. So whenever, you open the browser, it will prompt you which connection group to use for surfing internet. So it won't mixed up the 3G and WIFI connection. Coz i felt that not enabling 3G is not a good solution. ^^ unless you do use 3G, enabling it drain yut batt faster. I am on Digi anyway... 3G not available anyway. Added on July 12, 2008, 9:44 pmQUOTE(Jeffery @ Jul 12 2008, 06:35 PM) yup yup, it's AP. AP company from CS. 15 months warranty for phone, 12 months for LCD. And one more thing, I've been putting the brightness to 30% but my G900 still suck alot of battery. Is it becoz the first time I charge wasn't fulfill the 8 hrs requirement? or is there such requirement? I think with medium usage the phone can't last for one whole day. Providing I always close all the programs in task manager after I've used it. Will it be improvement in future? if like that G900 battery really isn't good. you may wanna turn off yur 3G. My 3G is off (me on Digi). If you look at the G900 spec on SE site, talk time on 3G is 1/3 of GSM time. My first charge last me abt 6 days. I did however do light charging when i connect to my laptop. This post has been edited by demio121: Jul 12 2008, 09:44 PM
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demio121
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Jul 13 2008, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(Jeffery @ Jul 13 2008, 01:41 AM) wah.... i didn't enable my 3G at all. But my battery can't last long. Seriously how to u make it 6 days? You didn't use for calling and sms? or did u turn off ur phone when you sleep? Added on July 13, 2008, 3:01 amGuys, i've used Swiss Manager 1.6 to check my G900 system. And I realized that I have only 45mb ram free and after shutting down all user app and reclaim my memory I've only 57mb free. System said that 5 mb ram will be reserve meaning 123mb - 57mb = 66mb. So G900 system used 66mb to boot up? that's alot.... my phone is perpetually on standby mode oni i hardly make or receive any call. oh... i think i should clarify my 6-days batt situation. I am in SG now so my G900 is in roaming mode which i switch on for my family and wife to call. I got another local line. I do listen to mp3 woth blurtooth on while commuting.
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