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merk
post May 7 2008, 10:02 AM

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your area size is something like my house. Let me share some of the cost that I have paid:

1. Plaster ceiling - whole house (inclusive of several L boxes) - RM 8k
2. Change roof tiles - why? Have you considered painting over your old ones? Anyway, 1 cement roof tile is about RM 2.50, clay is double that, generally 1 tile covers 1 sqf
3. Painting - should set you back about RM 3k not inclusive of painting materials

Have you considered marbling your toilets instead of tiling? and for your porch, have you considered pebble wash and cement render?
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post May 7 2008, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(merk @ May 7 2008, 10:02 AM)
your area size is something like my house. Let me share some of the cost that I have paid:

1. Plaster ceiling - whole house (inclusive of several L boxes) - RM 8k
2. Change roof tiles - why? Have you considered painting over your old ones? Anyway, 1 cement roof tile is about RM 2.50, clay is double that, generally 1 tile covers 1 sqf
3. Painting - should set you back about RM 3k not inclusive of painting materials

Have you considered marbling your toilets instead of tiling? and for your porch, have you considered pebble wash and cement render?
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hi merk, thanks for the info on the prices.
for the roof tiles, they are quite old, about 30+ years, thats why i think i may need to change them. based the price provided, i guess it should set me back at about 2-4K on the roof tiles alone sweat.gif

any advatages to marbling the toilets instead of tiling ? price wise a lot diffrence ?
as for pebble wash and cement render, i have not got any idea on this, any sample to share ?
merk
post May 7 2008, 05:00 PM

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nnpjj, dont forget what I mentioned is just the tiles, have not included the wooden frame to hold the roof (if this requires changing) and labour.

well, marble gives your house the hotel effect (some say more class) and if you are lucky, you may get marble as cheap as RM5/sqft labour maybe about RM3.50 - 4.50 depending on floor or wall. If you take that, tiling comes up to almost the same price. However, its up to you on what you like!

unfortunately I do no have samples of pebble wash and cement render but pebble wash is basically using those small stones (comes in 20 kg bags) and cement render is basically using cement.
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post May 7 2008, 11:14 PM

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i think the knocking wall and extension will be the one eating up a lot of cost...

replacing the floor tiles as well as painting the house will not cost much... definitely below RM20k...

also, the plaster ceiling for living room...cost about RM2k average? i remember it's not that expensive as well...

the one eating up the cost will be the extension at the back...

me also now have to start calculating cost for reno.... good thread...do share if you have any more updates on the current cost estimation
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post May 8 2008, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ May 7 2008, 11:14 PM)
i think the knocking wall and extension will be the one eating up a lot of cost...

replacing the floor tiles as well as painting the house will not cost much... definitely below RM20k...

also, the plaster ceiling for living room...cost about RM2k average? i remember it's not that expensive as well...

the one eating up the cost will be the extension at the back...

me also now have to start calculating cost for reno.... good thread...do share if you have any more updates on the current cost estimation
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i agree with you that the extension will be the one eating a lot of cost, so i might shelve this idea in order to save cost
merk
post May 9 2008, 10:57 AM

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i beg to differ, if you are engaging a contractor to do your knocking and banging, yes it will be very very expensive. But if you engage a couple of workers to do it, the cost is one of the lowest (to me). Banging of 4 walls (5x10) took me about 1 day to bang down and 1 day to clear.

Flat plasterceiling is cheap but the moment you do L-boxes, then the cost increases
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post May 9 2008, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(nnpjj @ Jan 28 2008, 09:52 AM)
want to ask some info on cost of renovation of double storey house for budgeting purpose.
can anyone roughly tell me roughly thr cost for below item:

1) extention of the back of house for both floors
2) change of tiles of whole house
3) lay new tiles for car porch
4) change roof tiles
5) paint whole house
6) plaster ceiling for whole house
7) construct a wall in the living room for partition purpose
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er... me quite n00b about renovation.. but i did plans everythg for my shop renovation, every single places/corners in my shop, i plan it and calculate it.



1) unknown... each contractor from each company they charge differently.. as wat other forumer said, u pay wat u get.. but nowaday they using indonesia workers..

2) depends wat material.. so.. very hard to calculate...

3) depends on material...

4) cheapest, 4k to 6k.... but if expensive, can goto 10k. contractor charges on the difficulty and ur house size. and depends wat material u gonna use.

5) normal double storey should be around 4k to 8k... mind need to consider skim coat before start painting... again.. depends on wat paint u choose.. labor? better give the job to professional painter. otherwise, do it urself.... for my shop, my contractor dont know how 2 paint, but he said he will do the job... at the end, indonesia workers painted my shop with very bad outcome. and i gotta repaint some places myself.. (cuz over budget... cry.gif )

6) plaster ceiling for whole house... this one few k can be done, find the right one, some might charge u very high price.... if you got problem with ur roof top, settle ur roof top problem...water leaking could make ur plaster ceiling look like sh1t...

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find more contractor... sub-con... ask them quote u... u can save few k sometimes...
but before tat, make sure their quality...

i choose the cheaper 1, and my shop came out cheaper quality... doh.gif .. tat time only think about saving money... for saving 1.5k, i get very bad result + bad attitude from the contractor... (delay work for 3 weeks.. they dont 1 work tat time..said got other jobs on hand and said wan to wait dunno which wall dry or wat.. doh.gif ...whenever they did very bad job, i ask them to re-do.. they refuse.. i argued with them, they scold me with bad words.... and the wall i asked them construct.. after 2 or 3 months, the wall start cracking.... when they come and collect the remaining debts, they promised me they will come on next week to fix it... after 6 months, no news.. i just give up.... sad.gif )

This post has been edited by jonglik: May 9 2008, 11:27 AM
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post May 10 2008, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(merk @ May 7 2008, 05:00 PM)
well, marble gives your house the hotel effect (some say more class) and if you are lucky, you may get marble as cheap as RM5/sqft labour maybe about RM3.50 - 4.50 depending on floor or wall. If you take that, tiling comes up to almost the same price. However, its up to you on what you like!
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Is that for actual marble or 'marble-effect' tiles?
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post May 10 2008, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(nnpjj @ May 7 2008, 01:45 PM)
for the roof tiles, they are quite old, about 30+ years, thats why i think i may need to change them. based the price provided, i guess it should set me back at about 2-4K on the roof tiles alone  sweat.gif
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If your existing roof tiles still ok, no need to change. Just repaint.

Sometimes if you change and the workmanship no good then will introduce leaks. The roof is quite a sensitive area of the house.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
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post May 13 2008, 10:33 PM

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I am doing almost the same requirement as you, still awaiting for the price quote.
But my additional items were relocating 1 bathroom and building another bathroom.
Someone told me this wuld cost RM20K or more ..
But mine is single story house so hopefully would be cheaper.

Any idea how much is pebbles wash stones? I saw some designs, which uses this pebbles wash
but heard it wud crack if expose to hot sun too much.

Also, the green type of windows .. heard it is very exp too !! Darn ..

merk
post May 14 2008, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ May 10 2008, 09:41 AM)
Is that for actual marble or 'marble-effect' tiles?
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Marble-marble not those marble effect types

A toilet will most prolly cost you about 10k upwards per toilet depending on size and type of furnishing
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post May 24 2008, 12:55 AM

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Do you still need estimation of pricing? I can get someone to break down the pricing for u so u can compare with your contractor and plan on your budget.
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post May 24 2008, 02:29 PM

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Actually i getting a dbl terrance in puchong with 20x70...House are totally basic unit with 11years old already..I planning to do:
1) extention of the back of house for both floors
2) change of tiles of whole house
3) lay new tiles for car porch
4) change roof tiles
5) paint whole house-i can get good indo worker for paint.
6) plaster ceiling for living room

Extention of back of house for kitchen only or both floor,i knew the cost are totally different...Anyone got ideas for how much $ need to fork out?
My planning is if out of budget,maybe i only can extend the kitchen only...

Mind shares ur guy's experience with me?...


Thanks
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post May 26 2008, 02:18 PM

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It all depends on what type of Extension you are planning and the additional space size you have at the back of your house.
Extension for both floors of your house will cost you more as you need to have a solid foundation and beams erected and you will have aconcrete base. This could easily cost you RM40k and above depending on the size and if you are moving your toilet from its original loaction.

Just for the extension of your kitchen will not cost a lot but again depending on your size. But it would start from RM15k.
The most important thing is getting a good contractor . You have to ask them what are the iron size that they will be using for the foundation and how deep will it be. You need to talk to them as if you know what is needed to be done.
BTW- Never ever pass payment in full to the contractors.
Always go for 30% after initial job is started.
Another 30% after 3/4 job is done.
20% when job is completed.
Last 20% few weeks after job completed . This is so u will have time to check for any leaking or cracks.

Hope this helps



QUOTE(hanif444 @ May 24 2008, 02:29 PM)
Actually i getting a dbl terrance in puchong with 20x70...House are totally basic unit with 11years old already..I planning to do:
1) extention of the back of house for both floors
2) change of tiles of whole house
3) lay new tiles for car porch
4) change roof tiles
5) paint whole house-i can get good indo worker for paint.
6) plaster ceiling for living room

Extention of back of house for kitchen only or both floor,i knew the cost are totally different...Anyone got ideas for how much $ need to fork out?
My planning is if out of budget,maybe i only can extend the kitchen only...

Mind shares ur guy's experience with me?...
Thanks
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post May 27 2008, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(hanif444 @ May 24 2008, 02:29 PM)
Actually i getting a dbl terrance in puchong with 20x70...House are totally basic unit with 11years old already..I planning to do:
1) extention of the back of house for both floors
2) change of tiles of whole house
3) lay new tiles for car porch
4) change roof tiles
5) paint whole house-i can get good indo worker for paint.
6) plaster ceiling for living room

Extention of back of house for kitchen only or both floor,i knew the cost are totally different...Anyone got ideas for how much $ need to fork out?
My planning is if out of budget,maybe i only can extend the kitchen only...

Mind shares ur guy's experience with me?...
Thanks
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Basically i called up my contractor btw his a close friend and this is what he came up.

1.Extention Back - below 10ft :
a. Kitchen c/w : Wall tiles & Flr tiles
b. Back Door + Fencing
c. Concrete table (no cabinet)
d. 1st floor c/w Aluminium window
e. 8m tiles 1x1 standard - 10-12k

2.Change existing tiles (standard) top and bottom 1400 2 ft - depending on Tiles (8-12k)

3.Car Porch - 5002 ft ~ 8k

4.Paint internal and external - Paint Cost ~ RM 4000 / Labour indonesion worker 2500-3000 if with Chinese head 4-4500k

5. Plaster Ceiling - flat - 3 / sq ft roughly 800 - 1500k depending on size and design.

Overall: Depending on what material the price will land on 40k,50k,70k

From the detail u provide this is rough estimation to work on your budget. Basically if u wanna work around your budget to see there is anything to actually maximize your need and cut those overhead cost. Initially i wanted to do car porch but instead i end up spending more on my living room and tiles. If there is any more question i suggest u visit his webpage cause im an IT guy so not much of renovation stuff i can explain. What he did for me was back extension with tiles, kitchen cabinet, grills and alarm system. The whole thing came up to about RM22k. I try to upload some pics once i get my digital camera back from my brother cry.gif

http://www.ckconstruction.com.my/




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post May 27 2008, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(Givenz @ May 27 2008, 01:08 AM)
Basically i called up my contractor btw his a close friend and this is what he came up.

1.Extention Back - below 10ft :
a. Kitchen c/w : Wall tiles & Flr tiles
b. Back Door + Fencing
c. Concrete table (no cabinet)
d. 1st floor c/w Aluminium window
e. 8m tiles 1x1 standard              -  10-12k

2.Change existing tiles (standard) top and bottom 1400 2 ft - depending on Tiles (8-12k)

3.Car Porch - 5002 ft ~ 8k

4.Paint internal and external - Paint Cost ~ RM 4000 / Labour indonesion worker 2500-3000 if with Chinese head 4-4500k

5. Plaster Ceiling - flat - 3 / sq ft  roughly 800 - 1500k depending on size and design.

Overall: Depending on what material the price will land on 40k,50k,70k

From the detail u provide this is rough estimation to work on your budget. Basically if u wanna work around your budget to see there is anything to actually maximize your need and cut those overhead cost. Initially i wanted to do car porch but instead i end up spending more on my living room and tiles. If there is any more question i suggest u visit his webpage cause im an IT guy so not much of renovation stuff i can explain. What he did for me was back extension with tiles, kitchen cabinet, grills and alarm system. The whole thing came up to about RM22k. I try to upload some pics once i get my digital camera back from my brother  cry.gif 

http://www.ckconstruction.com.my/
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thanks alot's...
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post Jun 10 2008, 07:26 PM

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Here are pictures of my renovated home.

http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c191/ken...nt=d463172f.pbw
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post Jun 17 2008, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Givenz @ Jun 10 2008, 07:26 PM)
Here are pictures of my renovated home.

http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c191/ken...nt=d463172f.pbw
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cantik la...brother
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post Jun 25 2008, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(hanif444 @ Jun 17 2008, 12:07 PM)
cantik la...brother
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Hanif444 ada advice dari contractor i, kalau u really nak renovate tempat u, make sure ada plan submission cause MPSJ really kacau 1. So besides all the price quotation that he quote also put in budget for plan submission. If get insider to do usually 1 month if owner do himself usually 3-6 month but if u anak datuk or tan sri maybe 1 day lar laugh.gif . ~ RM3,500 rclxub.gif

The drawing approve can last for 1 year. so maybe plan the drawing first and sort out someone to advice on the design and costing.




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QUOTE(Givenz @ Jun 10 2008, 07:26 PM)
Here are pictures of my renovated home.

http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c191/ken...nt=d463172f.pbw
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bro ... very nice job done ... smile.gif

in overall you only spent RM22K for all the renovation?


Added on June 25, 2008, 2:56 pm
QUOTE(Givenz @ Jun 10 2008, 07:26 PM)
Here are pictures of my renovated home.

http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c191/ken...nt=d463172f.pbw
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btw, how much you spent for your kitchen?

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