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gilz.hippy
post Jul 7 2008, 11:24 AM

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yesterday i bought one rabbit from beh farm.it s lion head type and male.i tried to put the lion head rabbit and my old rabbit (Cik Bit) together in one cage.they were fighting of each other.cik bit is a female rabbit.why she dont like d male rabbit? now i have to buy a new cage and put them separately.why cik bit body shacking after fighting? i so worry..the lion head rabbit look ok.he can sleep well after fighting with cik bit.what should i do to cik bit?
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post Jul 7 2008, 11:34 AM

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I don't think you should mix both of them in one cage immediately, you need to introduce them gradually. Let each of them stay at their own cage, and put them side by side. When they are used to each other, then only try to mix them together, not in a cage which will cause tension. Introduce them at a neutral place, slightly bigger space so they can keep each other a distance, and observe while mixing them up until you are sure that they are fine with each other.
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post Jul 7 2008, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(gilz.hippy @ Jul 7 2008, 11:24 AM)
yesterday i bought one rabbit from beh farm.it s lion head type and male.i tried to put the lion head rabbit and my old rabbit (Cik Bit) together in one cage.they were fighting of each other.cik bit is a female rabbit.why she dont like d male rabbit? now i have to buy a new cage and put them separately.why cik bit body shacking after fighting? i so worry..the lion head rabbit look ok.he can sleep well after fighting with cik bit.what should i do to cik bit?
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rabbits are territorial, read up more to learn about introducing them together. they're not like us human, put male + female together then can like adi.
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post Jul 7 2008, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(gilz.hippy @ Jul 7 2008, 12:24 PM)
yesterday i bought one rabbit from beh farm.it s lion head type and male.i tried to put the lion head rabbit and my old rabbit (Cik Bit) together in one cage.they were fighting of each other.cik bit is a female rabbit.why she dont like d male rabbit? now i have to buy a new cage and put them separately.why cik bit body shacking after fighting? i so worry..the lion head rabbit look ok.he can sleep well after fighting with cik bit.what should i do to cik bit?
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hi, i would recommend u to read 11Jan website on how she introduce her new bunny (named Yohji) to her existing bunny (named buttons)......

http://furrybutts.wordpress.com

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post Jul 7 2008, 12:30 PM

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Bear in mind, that's introducing neutered/spayed rabbits.

9 out of 10 introduction that I have seen end up in fights for un-neutered/un-spayed rabbits. Whether it is a same gender or different gender.

Well, on a personal note, quite disappointing to read about the fights. Everyone should be informed of such situations and due research has got to be done.

QUOTE(lm_meileng @ Jul 7 2008, 11:56 AM)
hi, i would recommend u to read 11Jan website on how she introduce her  new bunny (named Yohji) to her existing bunny (named buttons)......

http://furrybutts.wordpress.com
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post Jul 7 2008, 12:41 PM

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Is best to keep rabbits in separate cages to avoid fighting. They are territorial over their space, especially those that are not spayed or neutered.

My 3 are intact male and females..... but I cage them separately and let them out daily for a run. I never let them out without me look out for them, coz you won't know when fights will occur. Take precaution.

Don't care is female or male, most are territorial and do not like new comers. Read up on how to introduce rabbits. Don't simply chuck in a cage and expect them to be lovey dovey.
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post Jul 7 2008, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(sangterap @ Jul 7 2008, 01:30 PM)
Bear in mind, that's introducing neutered/spayed rabbits.

9 out of 10 introduction that I have seen end up in fights for un-neutered/un-spayed rabbits. Whether it is a same gender or different gender.

Well, on a personal note, quite disappointing to read about the fights. Everyone should be informed of such situations and due research has got to be done.
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for my case, i think i am quite lucky cos i introduce my doe (june) to my buck (coco) at their very young age.......at about two months, they did not fight, i think not because of they r opposite sex, i think because they r still immature their hormon hv yet to kick in.....however, my coco demand a lot of grooming during the introduction stage.....further, i found out that lop ear breed (coco) temperament is quite good and somehow, more tame. nevertheless, i still separate them in a different cage when they grow mature to avoid unnecessary fight. unsure.gif unsure.gif
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And unplanned pregnancies too! Great job!

QUOTE(lm_meileng @ Jul 7 2008, 01:09 PM)
for my case, i think i am quite lucky cos i introduce my doe (june) to my buck (coco) at their very young age.......at about two months, they did not fight, i think not because of they r opposite sex, i think because they r still immature their hormon hv yet to kick in.....however, my coco demand a lot of grooming during the introduction stage.....further, i found out that lop ear breed (coco) temperament is quite good and somehow, more tame. nevertheless, i still separate them in a different cage when they grow mature to avoid unnecessary fight.  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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post Jul 7 2008, 01:15 PM

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thats cool way....
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post Jul 7 2008, 01:19 PM

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Guys, please answer this.. Do u have male rabbit more than 1 year old? How many water intake it takes daily?

My previous male Nino drank 250ml a day... But daddy (1and half years old bunny) drinking habit rly makes me wori.. sad.gif He drinks 500-700ml daily. I check from the internet about renal dissease symptom, but he didnt show any sign of getting renal disease (or any disease), except drink alot. Dr Pillai said ok.. but i'm going to send him to other vet soon.

Owh, btw... i'm now preparing him for neutering process.. And hope this drinking problem wont give any bad effect to the neutering..

I only found 3 vets (from yellow pages) who do neutering.

1) Dr Pillai (Chai Leng Park) - RM60 (male only). He's using local anaesthetic (bcoz he said the other anaesthetic are stong for rabbit), the rabbit is concious during the surgery.. I'll not send Daddy here.

2) Pusat Haiwan Pulau Pinang - RM80 (male only). He said he's using mix anaesthetic, but he said safe for rabbit. But my bf and frens said goverment selalunya tak ok.. What do u guys think?

3) Dr. Pava & Dr. Shohna Vet Surgeon (Bukit Gelugor) - RM280 for male. I didnt ask the spaying cost, sori.. Should i send Daddy here?

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post Jul 7 2008, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Jul 7 2008, 01:19 PM)
Guys, please answer this.. Do u have male rabbit more than 1 year old? How many water intake it takes daily?

My previous male Nino drank 250ml a day... But daddy (1and half years old bunny) drinking habit rly makes me wori.. sad.gif He drinks 500-700ml daily. I check from the internet about renal dissease symptom, but he didnt show any sign of getting renal disease (or any disease), except drink alot. Dr Pillai said ok.. but i'm going to send him to other vet soon.

Owh, btw... i'm now preparing him for neutering process.. And hope this drinking problem wont give any bad effect to the neutering..

I only found 3 vets (from yellow pages) who do neutering.

1) Dr Pillai (Chai Leng Park) - RM60 (male only). He's using local anaesthetic (bcoz he said the other anaesthetic are stong for rabbit), the rabbit is concious during the surgery.. I'll not send Daddy here.

2) Pusat Haiwan Pulau Pinang - RM80 (male only). He said he's using mix anaesthetic, but he said safe for rabbit. But my bf and frens said goverment selalunya tak ok.. What do u guys think?

3) Dr. Pava & Dr. Shohna Vet Surgeon (Bukit Gelugor) - RM280 for male. I didnt ask the spaying cost, sori.. Should i send Daddy here?
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u need to ask them more questions.. with such little info, impossible to decide who to go for.

what anaesthetic? isofluorane is safe. sevoflourane is even better.

how many neuters have they done?

what is the success rate?? it should be 99.99%

do they recommend fasting the rabbit before surgery? if they tell you yes, then forget it. look for another vet. the most basic difference between a rabbit and other animals is that rabbits cannot vomit, so they don't need to fast before surgery. fasting rabbits is very bad as it will disrupt the digestive system
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post Jul 7 2008, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(gilz.hippy @ Jul 7 2008, 11:24 AM)
yesterday i bought one rabbit from beh farm.it s lion head type and male.i tried to put the lion head rabbit and my old rabbit (Cik Bit) together in one cage.they were fighting of each other.cik bit is a female rabbit.why she dont like d male rabbit? now i have to buy a new cage and put them separately.why cik bit body shacking after fighting? i so worry..the lion head rabbit look ok.he can sleep well after fighting with cik bit.what should i do to cik bit?
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post Jul 7 2008, 01:38 PM

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I think 500ml to 700ml is quite reasonable. I have one rabbit that drink around that amount too.

I don't think there is anything to worry about.

QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Jul 7 2008, 01:19 PM)
Guys, please answer this.. Do u have male rabbit more than 1 year old? How many water intake it takes daily?

My previous male Nino drank 250ml a day... But daddy (1and half years old bunny) drinking habit rly makes me wori.. sad.gif He drinks 500-700ml daily. I check from the internet about renal dissease symptom, but he didnt show any sign of getting renal disease (or any disease), except drink alot. Dr Pillai said ok.. but i'm going to send him to other vet soon.

Owh, btw... i'm now preparing him for neutering process.. And hope this drinking problem wont give any bad effect to the neutering..

I only found 3 vets (from yellow pages) who do neutering.

1) Dr Pillai (Chai Leng Park) - RM60 (male only). He's using local anaesthetic (bcoz he said the other anaesthetic are stong for rabbit), the rabbit is concious during the surgery.. I'll not send Daddy here.

2) Pusat Haiwan Pulau Pinang - RM80 (male only). He said he's using mix anaesthetic, but he said safe for rabbit. But my bf and frens said goverment selalunya tak ok.. What do u guys think?

3) Dr. Pava & Dr. Shohna Vet Surgeon (Bukit Gelugor) - RM280 for male. I didnt ask the spaying cost, sori.. Should i send Daddy here?
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post Jul 7 2008, 01:40 PM

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post Jul 7 2008, 01:42 PM

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Nicoty_yne, if Daddy is peeing normally, as opposed to straining to pee, then it shouldn't have any urinary problems.

is he drinking from a water bottle or bowl? if its water bottle, could it be that its leaking?

if he is otherwise normal, was not recently in a fight/suffered any injuries, then it ok..

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post Jul 7 2008, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(11Jan @ Jul 7 2008, 02:42 PM)
Nicoty_yne, if Daddy is peeing normally, as opposed to straining to pee, then it shouldn't have any urinary problems.

is he drinking from a water bottle or bowl? if its water bottle, could it be that its leaking?

if he is otherwise normal, was not recently in a fight/suffered any injuries, then it ok..
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yap, i notice that my buck drink lesser than my doe, but they do drink and pee a lot, that is why i am not so worry.......however, it they eat a lot of foods which hv high water content, such as fruits, they tend to drink less also, this has what to my buns... hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(11Jan @ Jul 7 2008, 01:42 PM)
Nicoty_yne, if Daddy is peeing normally, as opposed to straining to pee, then it shouldn't have any urinary problems.

is he drinking from a water bottle or bowl? if its water bottle, could it be that its leaking?

if he is otherwise normal, was not recently in a fight/suffered any injuries, then it ok..
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I checked the tray everyday.. dry tray, no leakage from the bottle. And he is peeing normally... no sign of straining or pain. Except a lot! Cannot use any bedding bcoz even i'm using Woodypet, the urine will soak all the bedding. So i use empty tray with wire grill on top to prevent his legs to get wet. And i wash the tray twice a day... He starts drink alot since he recover from the 2 lumps removal (around1-2months ago). He eats and poops normally. So, is it consider normal for a buck?


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QUOTE(11Jan @ Jul 7 2008, 01:33 PM)
u need to ask them more questions.. with such little info, impossible to decide who to go for.

what anaesthetic? isofluorane is safe. sevoflourane is even better.

how many neuters have they done?

what is the success rate?? it should be 99.99%

do they recommend fasting the rabbit before surgery? if they tell you yes, then forget it. look for another vet. the most basic difference between a rabbit and other animals is that rabbits cannot vomit, so they don't need to fast before surgery. fasting rabbits is very bad as it will disrupt the digestive system
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Thanx, i'll get more info from the vet first bfore sending Daddy there.. Maybe i'll bring Daddy to normal check up first, and see how the vet handle my rabbit. That time i can ask more question to the vet.

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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Jul 7 2008, 05:46 PM)
He starts drink alot since he recover from the 2 lumps removal (around1-2months ago). He eats and poops normally. So, is it consider normal for a buck?

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maybe you can check with the vet when you bring Daddy for his pre-neuter checkup.. in humans, drinking a lot of water in certain circumstances (post-accident, etc) is a sign of internal bleeding, the body is losing a lot of fluid and thus drives the person to drink more. but since its already been 2 months from Daddy's surgery, maybe that is not the case.. hehe sorry hope i didn't alarm you blush.gif it just kind of rang a bell when you tied the excessive water consumption to a surgery.. i doubt its related to the surgery as that was so long ago, but since ur going to the vet, just see what they have to say about him drinking a lot

i just found this: http://www.marvistavet.com/html/overview_o...s_mellitus.html which says excessive eating/drinking/urinating/weightloss could be a sign of diabetes. i have no idea if our vets here are able to test for that.. again, not to alarm you.. i'm just as curious as you are about his drinking habits.. lets see what the vet says

it could very well be nothing haha some rabbits just drink more than others .. i guess as rabbit slaves, we tend to get paranoid sometimes

This post has been edited by 11Jan: Jul 7 2008, 07:00 PM
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post Jul 7 2008, 07:08 PM

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guys..have u ever seen this photo?? so sweet..i took this from home a pet forum by Yang..its "Chatucak Market" at Bangkok..so cuteeeeeeeeeeee...feel like want to go over there.....

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