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post Dec 19 2007, 08:27 PM, updated 18y ago

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AMD just took the wraps off their ATI R680, RV620, and RV635 graphics cores. The new R680 consists of two 55-nm processor cores with CrossFireX support sharing the same specifications of the RV670 processor at the heart of their Radeon HD 3870 -- thought to be AMD's best product of the year. The RV620 and RV635 GPU cores are nearly identical to their RV610 and RV630 processors only in a new 55-nm form. Now, imagine if you will a pair of ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2 (R680) cards running in CrossFire. Or say four with CrossFireX. Feels good, right? You won't have to wait much longer as the R680 hits in January.

...it seems AMD is pushing real hard to launch it in January 2008. Apart from DX10.1, SM 4.1, PCIe 2.0 and UVD support, it also supports display port and next generation Crossfire. We learned that R680 has 320 stream processors like the R600 and supports double precision floating point. So effectively, R680 is an enhanced R600 with finer process technology and more features. CJ told us that R680 is clocked at 800Mhz+ and comes with 512MB or 1GB GDDR3 memories but we knew that R680 supports GDDR4 too. Most likely it will come with 512-bit memory interface. Along with R680, we should be seeing RV635 and RV620 replacing HD 2600 (RV630) and HD 2400 (RV610) respectively as well as HD 2950 Pro (RV670) to form a complete top to bottom line-up




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Here is some leak pics of R680. There are only three main chips on board, 2*RV670XT and one PLX chip for two GPU commmuications.

All 16 memory chips (8 on the front and 8 on the back) are missing on the board. Source said the card is using 0.7ns GDDR4 memory.

Also we can notice two digital PWN power modules.
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post Dec 19 2007, 08:49 PM

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so the rumors were true.. shakehead.gif

and must be surprisingly HOT. enough to boil egg.

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post Dec 19 2007, 08:54 PM

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wow acualty i just watit this monster come out and 3870 price will drop then i grap one for CF lol. pray hard the 3870 price will drop . smile.gif

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post Dec 19 2007, 09:30 PM

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i am praying for 3850 and 3870 to drop too...
hope can get 3850 512mb at rm500+...hehe
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post Dec 19 2007, 09:52 PM

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this card is so looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong
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QUOTE(choyster @ Dec 19 2007, 09:52 PM)
this card is so looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong
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As Westerners say, the longer, the better.*


*Although some women do like it wide.
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post Dec 19 2007, 10:42 PM

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"Most likely it will come with 512-bit memory interface".

I doubt this.
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post Dec 19 2007, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Dec 19 2007, 10:09 PM)
As Westerners say, the longer, the better.*
*Although some women do like it wide.
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LOLZ hope the card can beat nvidia 8800 series card haha biggrin.gif
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post Dec 19 2007, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Dec 19 2007, 10:45 PM)
LOLZ hope the card can beat nvidia 8800 series card haha  biggrin.gif
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yup hope its can beat 8800.although use it hehe. If competition great to end-user. Competition will made end-user get better and better technology and product
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post Dec 19 2007, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Dec 19 2007, 10:09 PM)
As Westerners say, the longer, the better.*
*Although some women do like it wide.
Where you pointing at mate?
The card or "something else"? laugh.gif

Just Joking. tongue.gif
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post Dec 19 2007, 11:32 PM

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can't wait to see the result of this card
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the price is .....?

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post Dec 20 2007, 01:00 AM

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btw, where is the RAM chip?? it looks missing from the PCB
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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Dec 20 2007, 01:00 AM)
btw, where is the RAM chip?? it looks missing from the PCB
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the pict of the naked card doesn't hv ram chip, this one reference card (unfinished)
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post Dec 20 2007, 01:43 AM

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Which website you got this information ?
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post Dec 20 2007, 02:44 AM

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Does it support X4 Crossfire? 8 GPUs must be insane!
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Holy cow. But im just wondering,do we really need so much power? Well unless u want to be future-proof. But that ain't gonna happen to coz technology advance almost everyday.
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Dec 20 2007, 07:42 AM)
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post Dec 20 2007, 10:38 AM

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Actually I don't mind dual cards practical.
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Rumours said AMD cutting R&D budget.

Hopes 3870x2 won't be the only high end card launching next year. They need more to compete with nVidia.

Do you guys agree?

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QUOTE(ahsiah @ Dec 20 2007, 09:45 PM)
Rumours said AMD cutting R&D budget.

Hopes 3870x2 won't be the only high end card launching next year. They need more to compete with nVidia.

Do you guys agree?
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did this hd3870x2 = r680..??? if yes it maybe the highen one for hd3000 series, amd plan for new r700 series in q2 2008... multicore vga.. drool.gif drool.gif
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post Dec 20 2007, 10:11 PM

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hmm make up 3870 ka laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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Nvidia 9 Series cards will gonna be out too next year.... watch out.....
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post Dec 21 2007, 10:42 AM

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Now what ATI gonna fit in between a single 680 chip & the dual 680 chip, because there are quite a gap there.

May be lower clock, handicap dual 680?

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From what I read from somewhere (sorry for no source given), the card will have lower clock and only ddr3. I hopes this is not going to be truth.
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QUOTE(ahsiah @ Dec 21 2007, 07:45 PM)
From what I read from somewhere (sorry for no source given), the card will have lower clock and only ddr3. I hopes this is not going to be truth.
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Hav 2 wait for more confirmation...8800GT VS this...
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wat's the chip in the middle...? it's not GPU rite...? unsure.gif
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Hav 2 wait for more confirmation...8800GT VS this...
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i think this card is meant 2 compete with ULTRA flex.gif bruce.gif
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Dec 21 2007, 10:02 PM)
wat's the chip in the middle...? it's not GPU rite...? unsure.gif
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"Here is some leak pics of R680. There are only three main chips on board, 2*RV670XT and one PLX chip for two GPU commmuications."
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post Dec 22 2007, 10:47 AM

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the chip in th middle looks very familiar, may be was the same usedi n GX2....

hopefully this work better and intergrate the core instead of the card like GX2........a big dissapointment
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Running SLi on it, how many power do you think we need at least?
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good job AMD, i really salute u guys ........

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......... so i'll stick with my HD2900Pro until R700.
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QUOTE(ATi_FANBOY @ Dec 22 2007, 03:52 PM)
good job AMD, i really salute u guys ........

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......... so i'll stick with my HD2900Pro until R700.
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ur 2900pro easily beaten by 3850 running on lower wattage and cooler too....nod.gif

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Running SLi on it, how many power do you think we need at least?
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oit, not SLI la...do some reading plz...its CROSSFIRE (CF) doh.gif

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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Dec 22 2007, 03:55 PM)
ur 2900pro easily beaten by 3850 running on lower wattage and cooler too....nod.gif
yeah, agreed. but on the bright side, i get a free LEAFBLOWER attached to my 2900Pro as a VGA cooler. guess 2xR680 requires that too ......
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QUOTE(ATi_FANBOY @ Dec 22 2007, 04:11 PM)
yeah, agreed. but on the bright side, i get a free LEAFBLOWER attached to my 2900Pro as a VGA cooler. guess 2xR680 requires that too ......
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the blower used by 2900series looks much more promissing compared to the 3850 cooler. but i think for X2 3870, its more enough to cool it down.
but considering the length of the card and cooler itself. does the fan strong enough to blow out the heat?? afraid its runs noisy..
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post Dec 22 2007, 11:28 PM

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OMG , this Card damm long , huge ! doh.gif
anyone know wat is 1st and 2nc chip function ?
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QUOTE(likito @ Dec 22 2007, 11:28 PM)
OMG , this Card damm long , huge ! doh.gif
anyone know wat is 1st and 2nc chip function ?
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graphic render.. since it was gpu... it work as crossfire on a single card
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At first I thought R680 and HD3870x2 isn't related but I wrong. Hope that single of these cards works on any motherboard, not just CrossFire motherboard
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dont worry, ati will definitely wants to make this card compatible with any mobo, with any chipsets...
btw, even the geforce 7950gx2 is supported by the biostar t965pt mobo...
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so... wat's PLX...? unsure.gif
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hope this does not disapoint like single 3870...i really want to try ati so bad but then always nvidia pawn them...when will ati become better then nvidia??
i know cf pawn sli but then as a single card solution??
i own 7950gx2 well i can say it not fully compatible on my mobo,it just revert all my oc to standard hope this one is better...for once i wanna see nvidia get pawned and i be a proud owner of ati card lol....
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Hope 3870x2 will run crysis on ultra high settings + 1280x1024 res over 30fps. sweat.gif
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i wonder if this card can beat 8 series or 9 series? hmm.gif

i wonder if this card can fit into my old casing? laugh.gif

i wonder what the price it is? shakehead.gif

i wonder if i can afford this card.. hehe.. icon_idea.gif

btw.. good card n hope comes with good performance.. rclxm9.gif support ATI n AMD.. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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how we gonna change 3rd party hsf ? this card has 2 cores in 1 pcb...
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it reminds me the AGP-PRO version of graphic card....quite long too...

but this one......wooowww.......definitely $$$ thumbup.gif
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still no news of its release date?
its alrdy january 2008, damn it...
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i hope these cards comes with a good cooling fans with all the heat it will generating ..
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QUOTE(smokey @ Jan 3 2008, 07:19 PM)
still no news of its release date?
its alrdy january 2008, damn it...
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just wait ah laugh.gif NO CHOICE tongue.gif

QUOTE(CYBERJUDGE @ Jan 3 2008, 10:01 PM)
i hope these cards comes with a good cooling fans with all the heat it will generating ..
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me too laugh.gif cant really bare with my sauna room 24/7 with 3870 these few days sweat.gif
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r680 will be launching on jan 28 if not mistaken...

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Tom’s hardware told us NVIDIA will debut their GeForce 9800GX2 in 2008 Valentine’s Day, the same release date of 9600GT. The MSRP will be about 449 USD. The date will little later than Radeon HD 3870X2’s Jan 28.


source: en.expreview.com

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maybe this card bring back my memory those were the time i was using 7950gx2 king of the 7 series...hope it will not failure like that card though...
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the card so long

cant fit my mobo liao biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Jan 6 2008, 09:00 PM)
the card so long

cant fit my mobo liao biggrin.gif

lOL!
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should not be a problem as long as your mobo does have a pcie slot. yawn.gif
normal casing for this card is headache though. doh.gif
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 6 2008, 09:03 PM)
should not be a problem as long as your mobo does have a pcie slot.  yawn.gif
normal casing for this card is headache though.  doh.gif
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ahaha...yep. can't wait to see the performance.

I have being holding my purchase on gf to see how this perform.

weird though, still no visible news on the release. flex.gif
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This card will rule.

I'm pretty much sure that the MSRP will be 350USD (100USD below 9800GX2). Yet it's a force to be reckoned with, I might have to laugh at whoever bought 8800GTSes or even 8800GTs at super marked up prices.

That means the price will be about the same as 8800GTS 512MB, but performance will be same/better, even in AA.
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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Jan 6 2008, 10:12 PM)
This card will rule.

I'm pretty much sure that the MSRP will be 350USD (100USD below 9800GX2). Yet it's a force to be reckoned with, I might have to laugh at whoever bought 8800GTSes or even 8800GTs at super marked up prices.

That means the price will be about the same as 8800GTS 512MB, but performance will be same/better, even in AA.
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my guess for it to be at least on par with ultra rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Jan 6 2008, 10:12 PM)
This card will rule.

I'm pretty much sure that the MSRP will be 350USD (100USD below 9800GX2). Yet it's a force to be reckoned with, I might have to laugh at whoever bought 8800GTSes or even 8800GTs at super marked up prices.

That means the price will be about the same as 8800GTS 512MB, but performance will be same/better, even in AA.
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wrong.. right now you can find 88gt and 88gts selling below their msrp...
but if the rumours are correct, the 9800gx2 will only use g92 chips..
which means that it's not next-gen yet and the r680 card will have 2 x rv670 chips..
well, from my point of view, current g80 8800 and 29xt users will not view the r680 and 9800gx2 as a very substantial upgrade..
btw, im skipping g92s, rv670, r680 for the real next gen cards -> r700 and g100 icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Jan 6 2008, 11:24 PM)
wrong.. right now you can find 88gt and 88gts selling below their msrp...
but if the rumours are correct, the 9800gx2 will only use g92 chips..
which means that it's not next-gen yet and the r680 card will have 2 x rv670 chips..
well, from my point of view, current g80 8800 and 29xt users will not view the r680 and 9800gx2 as a very substantial upgrade..
btw, im skipping g92s, rv670, r680 for the real next gen cards -> r700 and g100  icon_idea.gif
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well I've read that R700 have being delayed to 2009 if not mistaken. I guess on the ATI side, we all have to settle to HD3800 X2 hmm.gif

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r700 has not been delayed...the chips are alrdy been fabricated...if nthg is wrong, r700 will arrive at june/july...**fingers crossed
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QUOTE(smokey @ Jan 6 2008, 11:06 AM)
r700 has not been delayed...the chips are alrdy been fabricated...if nthg is wrong, r700 will arrive at june/july...**fingers crossed
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Just because they have silicon, doesn't mean it can't be delayed. They had R600 silicon for almost a year before it was released. And i'm not sure if this R700 is the original R700.
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i delay my plan to play 3870 because of this, hope it can lauch very soon with its performance and price.. hehe
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so any approximate price for this hot stuff? drool.gif
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QUOTE(invisiblelim @ Jan 7 2008, 10:26 PM)
i delay my plan to play 3870 because of this, hope it can lauch very soon with its performance and price.. hehe
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if u cant wait, then its better to buy 2 3870 and cf it..
btw ur c2d is stuck at stock frequency, overclock it so that there'll be no cpu bottleneck if u upgrade ur gc rclxms.gif
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so any approximate price for this hot stuff? drool.gif
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~1st R680 Test~

驱动直接认成3870×2，不显存显示1024MB

两块RV670核心，频率是770/2250MHz，与公版3870完全一样

中央有一块巨大的桥接芯片负责分配PCIE带宽

整张卡发热并不大，满载运行3DMark06的时候只有60度



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Driver acceptability directly into 3870 × 2, 1024 MB memory Show

2 RV670 core frequency is 770/2250 MHz, and is exactly the same as the 3870 version

Central is a great bridge chip responsible for the allocation of bandwidth PCIE

Fever is not the whole card, loaded with time running 3 DMark06 only 60 degrees





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9k 3dmark06... shocking.gif
whoa... that is... a major let down...
did i see something wrong there?
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http://xtreview.com/review191.htm

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2k better than 8800 ULTRA shocking.gif
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aint surprising since its using dual chip compared to GTX/ Ultra laugh.gif

i was hoping the score was higher..
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Jan 10 2008, 02:51 PM)
aint surprising since its using dual chip compared to GTX/ Ultra  laugh.gif

i was hoping the score was higher..
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9k 3dmark06... shocking.gif
whoa... that is... a major let down...
did i see something wrong there?
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should be around 17k in 1280x1024.

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at tat price...? no way... sweat.gif
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i think it worth the penny. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 10 2008, 04:47 PM)
dude, look at the benchmark resolution.... whistling.gif
should be around 17k in 1280x1024.
bro, i heard it will be retailed at USD450.
i think it worth the penny.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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oh... u mean the 3870 selling RM700+ at Low Yat not same kar...? unsure.gif
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i mean 3870X2 (as known as R680) 2 RV670XT cores on one PCB.
USD450 = RM1600.
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wow, most powerful single card? with almost 30% higher performance than a Ultra, this puts in the same league as 9800GX2
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wow, most powerful single card? with almost 30% higher performance than a Ultra, this puts in the same league as 9800GX2
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the card's length is shorter than expected.

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wow, most powerful single card? with almost 30% higher performance than a Ultra, this puts in the same league as 9800GX2
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GameSpot 3870X2 (R680) Video @CES doing COD4 2560x1600 AA on

http://au.gamespot.com/video/939217/618439...-amd-booth-tour


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AMD had one very important demonstration at CES: the Radeon HD 3870 X2. We won't be able to bring you performance numbers from this card until the end of the month, but AMD let us snap some photos of the card. Two 3870 GPUs on a single board? That's AMD's entry into the high end market for Q1 2008.

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oh sheet, i didnt notice that reso.. now its really shocking.gif

holy crap, thats my next card drool.gif

arrived just in time when im about to upgrade my LCD
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Jan 10 2008, 11:36 PM)
oh sheet, i didnt notice that reso.. now its really shocking.gif

holy crap, thats my next card drool.gif

arrived just in time when im about to upgrade my LCD
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okay..
two gecube HD3870 on sale at RM650 per card..

hopefully 2 of this can kill crysis.

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@@. wow great job AMD/ATI .

should i go HD3870 CF or this R680 ???
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@@. wow great job AMD/ATI .

should i go HD3870 CF or this R680 ???
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technically HD3870 CF will beat one R680
higher mem speed and core

but R680 CF...hehehe.... just make sure ure gaming at high AA and high Reso settings to make the difference

samething with tri sli.. u need to game at insane settings.

anyways from the video above he said the price range around 400-500 usd.. thats freaking expensive.


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Damn la. Now im regretting buying 8800GT loh. If this card's selling at 1k~1.2K(me dreaming haha) i'l definitely jual my 88GT and grab this beast.

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CES 2008: Good four chip scaling

We've seen it and heard it from a few sources but it looks like two R680, Radeon 3870 X2 will score just over 20,000 in 3Dmark06.

The cards are scheduled for introduction at the end of January, but the final driver for four chips will be later in Q1.

It is quite good scaling and it looks like a great score for a non overclocked system. It will be interesting to see it performing in all games, but that is another matter all together. In most games it should be faster than Ultra, that is what we've been told.



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Aiya, why was ATI so slow. I just bought my 8800gt then they release this. After christmas some more didnt expect it
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thus who want to sell their HD3870 / 8800gt after this card release,kindly PM me...smile.gif

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which lowest PSU support 2x8pin pcie? aiya need 800W?

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3870 X2 lose to 9800GX2 yeah !!~~ maybe cheaper then RV680 also whistling.gif

CES 2008: Faster chips


We said this back in 2007 but let us be clear on one thing. Nvidia’s upcoming high end sandwich board, Geforce 9800 GX2 is going to end up faster than a single Radeon 3870 GX2.

This comes as no surprise as Nvidia’s single G92 is faster than a single RV670 and in the same matter a dual chip Nvidia beats ATI.

Radeon 3870 X2 will be very competition as its single chip brother was but it is still a bit slower compared to Nvidia. We still believe hat Radeon 3870 X2 will have quite good sales as it will be significantly cooler than Nvidia’s card and it will be available in massive numbers

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...d=5082&Itemid=1
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QUOTE(Ezonizs @ Jan 11 2008, 10:55 AM)
3870 X2 lose to 9800GX2 yeah !!~~ maybe cheaper then RV680 also  whistling.gif

CES 2008: Faster chips
We said this back in 2007 but let us be clear on one thing. Nvidia's upcoming high end sandwich board, Geforce 9800 GX2 is going to end up faster than a single Radeon 3870 GX2.

This comes as no surprise as Nvidia's single G92 is faster than a single RV670 and in the same matter a dual chip Nvidia beats ATI.

Radeon 3870 X2 will be very competition as its single chip brother was but it is still a bit slower compared to Nvidia. We still believe hat Radeon 3870 X2 will have quite good sales as it will be significantly cooler than Nvidia's card and it will be available in massive numbers

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...d=5082&Itemid=1
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Yes. But if dual cards setup i think 3870x2 CrossfireX is still better than 9800GX2 Quad SLI... hmm.gif
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3870 X2 lose to 9800GX2 .

even 9800x2 is faster then 3870x2 . but i sill go for ATI . smile.gif
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isnt it 9800gx2 the high end card for nvidia 9 series?
i thought that 3870x2 means to beat nvidia 8 series high end card and also an experiment for ati high end r700 series hmm.gif
so lets wait for the real match between ati r700 high end vs nvidia 9800gx2 drool.gif

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QUOTE(cyberfly @ Jan 11 2008, 01:43 PM)
isnt it 9800gx2 the high end card for nvidia 9 series?
i thought that 3870x2 means to beat nvidia 8 series high end card and also an experiment for ati high end r700 series hmm.gif
so lets wait for the real match between ati r700 high end vs nvidia 9800gx2  drool.gif
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R700 suppose to VS Nvidia GT200 which is 9800GTX smile.gif
for this i'm not so sure who will win coz Ati's R700 have 2 Gpu in one die same as Dual core CPU and for the Nvidia they are only using one single core~~ no idea who will win~ hmm.gif
unfortunately all Next gen Nvidia cards do not support DX10.1 and SM 4.1
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...d=5081&Itemid=1

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QUOTE(Ezonizs @ Jan 11 2008, 11:55 AM)
3870 X2 lose to 9800GX2 yeah !!~~ maybe cheaper then RV680 also  whistling.gif

CES 2008: Faster chips
We said this back in 2007 but let us be clear on one thing. Nvidia's upcoming high end sandwich board, Geforce 9800 GX2 is going to end up faster than a single Radeon 3870 GX2.

This comes as no surprise as Nvidia's single G92 is faster than a single RV670 and in the same matter a dual chip Nvidia beats ATI.

Radeon 3870 X2 will be very competition as its single chip brother was but it is still a bit slower compared to Nvidia. We still believe hat Radeon 3870 X2 will have quite good sales as it will be significantly cooler than Nvidia's card and it will be available in massive numbers

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...d=5082&Itemid=1
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It's onli a prediction only, no proper review or comparison wink.gif . The design of NVidia's sandwich board with G92 core will onli pack more heat icon_rolleyes.gif .
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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jan 11 2008, 01:57 PM)
It's onli a prediction only, no proper review or comparison wink.gif . The design of NVidia's sandwich board with G92 core will onli pack more heat icon_rolleyes.gif .
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ATi fanboy, what else to say laugh.gif
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ATi fanboy, what else to say laugh.gif
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I'm saying facts & i'm not fanboy ATi, u know i've 8600GTS with me. wut defined as fanboy onli use that specific brand loyal to it & no other options for them at any cause.

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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jan 11 2008, 02:05 PM)
I'm saying facts & i'm not fanboy ATi, u know i've 8600GTS with me. wut defined as fanboy onli use that specific brand loyal to it & no other options them at any cause.
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i was referring to that other guy, not you laugh.gif
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any estimated price yet?
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any estimated price yet?
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which one is more cheaper then i will grab it lol either Nvidia or ATI haha as long as 2 GPU whistling.gif
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Here is the GTX results at 2560x1600

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QUOTE(kaiser_falco @ Jan 11 2008, 07:26 PM)
whoever win or loose doesnt matter since technology is always evolving..and it always leave a burn hole in consumer pocket...
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Here is the GTX results at 2560x1600

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that is 8800gtx right?
add another 2k for 3870X2 cos it's benched with q6600 at 2.4ghz.
then the result is clear :

3870x2 = 11500
8800gtx = 8046
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QUOTE(nadeng1987 @ Jan 11 2008, 05:59 AM)
Damn la. Now im regretting buying 8800GT loh. If this card's selling at 1k~1.2K(me dreaming haha) i'l definitely jual my 88GT and grab this beast.
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the cycle never ends laugh.gif

QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Jan 11 2008, 06:09 AM)
sure it's gonna be hot and a power sucker.

time to change PSU again sad.gif
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whats next? minimum of more than 1k watt PSU? doh.gif

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QUOTE(nagflar @ Jan 11 2008, 12:36 PM)
3870 X2 lose to 9800GX2 .

even 9800x2 is faster then 3870x2 . but i sill go for ATI . smile.gif
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faster FPS doesnt mean quality will nice because NVIDIA quality sux kok whistling.gif

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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Jan 12 2008, 12:26 AM)
whats next? minimum of more than 1k watt PSU? doh.gif

Added on January 11, 2008, 11:29 pm

faster FPS doesnt mean quality will nice because NVIDIA quality sux kok whistling.gif
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newer GC seem to eat less power than previous GC.... unsure.gif

nVidia Quality sux...? shakehead.gif
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still most of us would go for cheap performance graphic card according to current market...
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nVidia Quality sux...? shakehead.gif
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yes it is a big pain in my eyes 2 see NVIDIA graphics compare with ATI doh.gif
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Jan 12 2008, 12:21 AM)
yes it is a big pain in my eyes 2 see NVIDIA graphics compare with ATI doh.gif
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yea in win xp you can see the different,and i may say ati IQ is nicer,but in vista hmmm both also the same quality but nvidia is faster....(comparing 3870 n 88gt)...anyway what the point of having great image quality if the frame is low??coz i try both 3870 n 88gt...but now end up using 88gts 512 coz its highly oc capability... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Jan 12 2008, 01:21 AM)
yes it is a big pain in my eyes 2 see NVIDIA graphics compare with ATI doh.gif
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DIE HARD ATI fanboy lol sweat.gif if R680 cheaper then nvidia then i go ATI , PRICE is the most important !

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QUOTE(Ezonizs @ Jan 12 2008, 01:40 AM)
DIE HARD ATI fanboy lol  sweat.gif  if R680 cheaper then nvidia then i go ATI , PRICE is the most important !
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correction: price/performance is important... not price only...
if u looking for cheap GPU means X1050 or FX6200.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kaiser_falco @ Jan 12 2008, 12:34 AM)
yea in win xp you can see the different,and i may say ati IQ is nicer,but in vista hmmm both also the same quality but nvidia is faster....(comparing 3870 n 88gt)...anyway what the point of having great image quality if the frame is low??coz i try both 3870 n 88gt...but now end up using 88gts 512 coz its highly oc capability... laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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yea 3870 cant be Oc at all and its using ddr4 rams whistling.gif
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CES 2008: Late January

Once ATI launches its dual RV670 board you can expect it to be in decent volumes. This is the plan and if ATI wanted to launch a limited number was able to do it back in December.


Samples are in good shape and hardware was finished back at December but we are still waiting for the final driver.

This is a tricky product as some games will scale really well but some including Crysis are much more unfriendly to the dual cards and ATI wants to make sure that it has the best driver possible when it launches this card. The plan is to introduce them in late January.


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I just measured my motherboard layout, the R680 will hit my SATA port and cable. I guess I got to stay away with this card anymore. Very sad. sad.gif
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QUOTE(choyster @ Jan 12 2008, 02:41 AM)
yea 3870 cant be Oc at all and its using ddr4 rams  whistling.gif
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can oc but headroom a bit only...duh doh.gif ....dont be sarcastic la,i own both before then i trade in,so i believe i know what im talking about hmmm??i even run it at cf just play around and came up to conclusion dont ever get x38 gigabyte ds5 to do cf...it will ruin your games,flickering everywhere.....
but on asus x38 mobo doesnt seem to be a problem...so maybe it a driver problem...

im not a fan boy of any brand,i just buy what the best can suit me,no need to be a fan boy and justify good product/bad product,the best things is try it yourself and experiance it...trade it with your friend or forum if itchy to try others.... brows.gif brows.gif

so far as i said it before,nvidia is faster,both card doesnt show any different IQ on vista but on the xp it totally diferent story..IQ wins on 3870...exspecially if you use modified driver like tweakforce driver,it look so much better,but then the draw back is a little bit slower if compare to 88gt even oc also wont be that good...that why i trade it out and get this 88gts,and of course i will buy this card R680 and try it out to check it for myself...frankly telling you that review always have it doubt,the best things is experiance it yourself...
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QUOTE(kaiser_falco @ Jan 12 2008, 01:21 PM)
can oc but headroom a bit only...duh doh.gif ....dont be sarcastic la,i own both before then i trade in,so i believe i know what im talking about hmmm??i even run it at cf just play around and came up to conclusion dont ever get x38 gigabyte ds5 to do cf...it will ruin your games,flickering everywhere.....
but on asus x38 mobo doesnt seem to be a problem...so maybe it a driver problem...

im not a fan boy of any brand,i just buy what the best can suit me,no need to be a fan boy and justify good product/bad product,the best things is try it yourself and experiance it...trade it with your friend or forum if itchy to try others.... brows.gif  brows.gif

so far as i said it before,nvidia is faster,both card doesnt show any different IQ on vista but on the xp it totally diferent story..IQ wins on 3870...exspecially if you use modified driver like tweakforce driver,it look so much better,but then the draw back is a little bit slower if compare to 88gt even oc also wont be that good...that why i trade it out and get this 88gts,and of course i will buy this card R680 and try it out to check it for myself...frankly telling you that review always have it doubt,the best things is experiance it yourself...
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did u update your bios for 3870?Cause the stock got limit.I dont game so much alry so i want to get 3870 for the better IQ and i believe still can play every game at high la not graphic whore also icon_rolleyes.gif
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did u update your bios for 3870?Cause the stock got limit.I dont game so much alry so i want to get 3870 for the better IQ and i believe still can play every game at high la not graphic whore also icon_rolleyes.gif
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yup update and mod bios also la....im not gaming much just in to oc like to push the clock yo max that all...
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which is the best

wait end of feb, buy either new gc from ati or nvidia
or, but the reduced price hd3800 series or 8800gt, after new gc come out
or, wait the end of this year

and, which gc should i consider. ati or nvidia

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talk about oc capability.
i tried both before,
MSI 8800GT: 730/1000 from 600/900 with stock cooler 100% fan speed. ~21% oc
Sapphire 3870: 950/1300 from 777/1125 pencil modded with stock cooler 80% fan speed. ~22% oc
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i wander who will buy HD3800 series .
if it is slower then 8800 Series , ??
expensive then 8800 Series . ??
IQ is not better then 8800 Series ??
consume more power then 8800 Series ??

which above is right , i donno lol


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the consumer wont be that stupid i think..
they'll know which one is the best.. as long the price is worth with the performance.
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 12 2008, 02:23 PM)
talk about oc capability.
i tried both before,
MSI 8800GT: 730/1000 from 600/900 with stock cooler 100% fan speed. ~21% oc
Sapphire 3870: 950/1300 from 777/1125 pencil modded with stock cooler 80% fan speed. ~22% oc
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ya true that why i trade in my 88gt and 3870 to get gts....standard for 88gts xfx....650/972/1625 oc to 820/1000/2000 no v mod easily can hit....damn this is a gem...

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i wander who will buy HD3800 series .
if it is slower then 8800 Series , ??
expensive then 8800 Series . ??
IQ is not better then 8800 Series ??
consume more power then 8800 Series ??

which above is right , i donno lol
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how come you guys know all this stuff thumbup.gif

oc? way out of my league. yet, really interested in learning
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QUOTE(kaiser_falco @ Jan 12 2008, 02:47 PM)
ya true that why i trade in my 88gt and 3870 to get gts....standard for 88gts xfx....650/972/1625 oc to 820/1000/2000 no v mod easily can hit....damn this is a gem...

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IQ is better in xp,but barely visible in vista....Xp you can really see the different..
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why is it brarely visible in vista?

In-game IQ or Desktop IQ? Is it because of DirectX version?
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QUOTE(nles @ Jan 12 2008, 04:26 PM)
why is it brarely visible in vista?

In-game IQ or Desktop IQ? Is it because of DirectX version?
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Not really, ATi is still better at IQ. Ive used my new 3870 for less than a week and i already notice the change from 8800GTS. The most obvious part where Ati IQ is better is at HD movie playback, even my desktop looks very vibrant. And crysis looks a tad better, not in term of Effects, but colour vividness.

Added on January 12, 2008, 8:10 pmand yea, im running vista x64

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so you mean if use ATI HD38++ series the colours of my monitor in game or watever will be more sharper , intense , cooler deeper then Nvidia cards ?
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QUOTE(kaiser_falco @ Jan 12 2008, 02:47 PM)
IQ is better in xp,but barely visible in vista....Xp you can really see the different..
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i wanna know too... visible in vista in term of what.. ?
i am vista x86 user.. the different thing i've got is gaming experience & hd video with cat 7.12 ....so wonderful....
good framerate.. good IQ... good adaptive AA

my 88gts using xp, nothing interesting.. but quite faster in framerate.. but poor IQ with every incoming nvidia ..BETA/WHQL driver...


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QUOTE(Ezonizs @ Jan 12 2008, 09:52 PM)
so you mean if use ATI HD38++ series the colours of my monitor in game or watever will be more sharper , intense , cooler deeper then Nvidia cards ?
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from my experience YES flex.gif NVIDIA is just an faster FPS whore card which is how they can gain more FPS because they render less graphical details unlike ATI laugh.gif

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QUOTE(zeronehza @ Jan 12 2008, 09:54 PM)
i wanna know too... visible in vista in term of what.. ?
i am vista x86 user.. the different thing i've got is gaming experience & hd video with cat 7.12 ....so wonderful....
good framerate.. good IQ... good adaptive AA

my 88gts using xp, nothing interesting.. but quite faster in framerate.. but poor IQ with every incoming nvidia ..BETA/WHQL driver...
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why dont you unplug the nvidia and put it into that vista rig...just try it yourself...but under xp yes i dont object that ati image produce better IQ,but then if you try playing around with nvidia ctrl panel you can imrove it a bit but still not up to the ati IQ..ati win in this department
but i myself wonder i dual boot,i try xp ok,good IQ for ati,unplug the card fix in nvidia then boot again yes can truly see the different then boot again try vista same procedure,hmmm didnt see a large diferent between ati and nvidia IQ..


oh shot!! BTW i think we already off topic edi... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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yes.. i make dual boot with c2d.. xp + vista... no need to unplug.. tongue.gif
but nvidia still bad in driver for vista..

sorry.,. no fan boy thing.. both card i use.. no regret at all..
ON topic again. tongue.gif
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err...what is IQ. sorry and thank you
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err...what is IQ. sorry and thank you
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arggg..... when will this card reach our shore?
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arggg..... when will this card reach our shore?
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hmmph...should i get it or not....cant wait to see review by forumers first,coz im afraid it gonna go down as 7950gx2...hope this can kick my 88gts 512 xfx ass nicely maybe 50% boost more or less,i surely get this...
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Jan 12 2008, 11:21 PM)
from my experience YES flex.gif NVIDIA is just an faster FPS whore card which is how they can gain more FPS because they render less graphical details unlike ATI laugh.gif
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Imagine 8800GT G92 Core already facing cooling problem, then wut happen if 9800GX2 G92 dual core sandwich?? I think gonna be as hot as wasabi sandwich wink.gif , faster frame rates doesn't wins all but endurance like long hours gaming flex.gif .
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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jan 13 2008, 01:42 PM)
Imagine 8800GT G92 Core already facing cooling problem, then wut happen if 9800GX2 G92 dual core sandwich?? I think gonna be as hot as wasabi sandwich wink.gif , faster frame rates doesn't wins all but endurance like long hours gaming flex.gif .
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yup gt is hot but gts is cooler...hmmm dont knoe what type of cooling solution they will use...but i dont feel to hype since whatever it is,it still using the same core with gt n gts g92....
i dont see any improvement at all...it feel like they try to finish up the core stock so they can launch another 1...lol
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hm... any idea how much izit? if the price is reasonable, i might sell off my 512 GTS and get this baby and CF. drool.gif brows.gif
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Q: there is two dual-core gpu by ati , 3870 and R680?
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jan 13 2008, 08:37 PM)
Q: there is two dual-core gpu by ati , 3870 and R680?
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Like I said, wait for CES2008...and VOILA~! It showed up wink.gif
GO here: http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=224402

EDIT: Now I'm a bit skeptical after Ezonics pointed out to me that it looks like R600. The card in the case don't have 2 heatsinks and the PCI-E power input is spread out like R600 prototype.

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the shape looks alike with the R600 aka HD2900XT 1 Gb prototype version lol sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Ezonizs @ Jan 13 2008, 08:51 PM)
the shape looks alike with the R600 aka HD2900XT 1 Gb prototype version lol sweat.gif
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Did you see the 2 larger heatsinks (compared to RV670)? One for each processor.
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i was meaning the card in the silverstone case ~~ it really looks like it. go google it wink.gif
by the way in the first page thats the actual real card coming out.

http://www.maxitmag.com/hardware-reviews/g...ges-leaked.html

http://forums.firingsquad.com/firingsquad/...thread.id=99314

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Ah, my bad...I think the GPU is indeed R600.
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yikes card looks so bloody ridiculously long doh.gif it looks like a stretch 2900XT with double cooler laugh.gif
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Its ok not that long la, still can fit in most cases...

my question is most PSU has only 1 8-pin and 1 6-pin so for me i only can use 1 of this card...
i wonder what psu is able to hold these cards in crossfire setup? any idea? what voltage? 800w minimum? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(butthead012 @ Jan 14 2008, 01:35 AM)
Its ok not that long la, still can fit in most cases...

my question is most PSU has only 1 8-pin and 1 6-pin so for me i only can use 1 of this card...
i wonder what psu is able to hold these cards in crossfire setup? any idea? what voltage? 800w minimum? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(butthead012 @ Jan 14 2008, 12:35 AM)
Its ok not that long la, still can fit in most cases...

my question is most PSU has only 1 8-pin and 1 6-pin so for me i only can use 1 of this card...
i wonder what psu is able to hold these cards in crossfire setup? any idea? what voltage? 800w minimum? hmm.gif
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When you see PSU being labelled as SLI or CF compatible, you'ld know that they have more than 1 PCI-E connector. Open it up and check to be certain. If they won't let you, don't buy it from that shop. As a consumer, you have every right to check the stuff that you are about to buy with hard-earned money. It's not RM1 or 2 purchase. It's hundreds of ringgit...
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A never ending supply of benchmark...here's another one.
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Source: http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=225518
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the score still too low compare to 3870 CF.. maybe some oced cpu + proper cat driver .can get higher score then...
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QUOTE(zeronehza @ Jan 15 2008, 10:34 PM)
the score still too low compare to 3870 CF.. maybe some oced cpu + proper cat driver .can get higher score then...
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Do you realize that it is 2560x1600 resolution?
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ouch.. sorry.. im not look it properly tongue.gif
on 30" ? fuhh...
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ouch.. sorry.. im not look it properly tongue.gif
on 30" ? fuhh...
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Crysis run on Radeon 3870 X2

R680_Crysis 1.1_VeryHigh DX10_1280×800_0AA/0AF_8.451

Other spec:
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Source: Crysis run on Radeon 3870 X2

Ouch.. still got killed by Crysis..

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Crysis will still tax HD4xxx series lar...so don't expect much. Unless CF R680 or something.
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i hope this come out ASAP
then 3870 price drop i wll grab 1
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The (mis)named 9800GX2 is in reality just two "new" 8800GTS-512 units put together, giving each "half" its own PCB. - From theinquirer


Is this true? 9800GX2 is just G92 8800GTS put together? It's a little bit disappointing if it's true..

Anyway, I wonder why they like Dual-chip solution so much.. I know it's cheaper this way, but the software doesn't usually support dual-chip cards unless patched. Which means, need to wait for the developers and GFX card maker to supply the drivers to play the game..

I hope it doesn't end up like 7950GX2..
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i hope this come out ASAP
then 3870 price drop i wll grab 1
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Launch date on 23rd? Hopefully...Guess retail are starting to pile up on stock now.

Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/15/amd..._graphics_card/
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still getting killed by crysis is a definite ouch...

who needs GPU power for anything else? freaking COJ?

come on AMD..!!
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still getting killed by crysis is a definite ouch...

who needs GPU power for anything else? freaking COJ?

come on AMD..!!
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over-demanding is one thing, those x2 scores are basically same or even less than a single 3870
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 16 2008, 09:50 AM)
over-demanding is one thing, those x2 scores are basically same or even less than a single 3870
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You like many others...choose to ignore the fact that it ran on 2560x1600 resolution...not 1280x1024.
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You like many others...choose to ignore the fact that it ran on 2560x1600 resolution...not 1280x1024.
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you, like many others choose to ignore the fact that i'm referring to the crysis benchmark @ 1280x800 NOT the useless 3dmark06
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later on garage sales sure got cheap 3870 hehe im waiting for that
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you, like many others choose to ignore the fact that i'm referring to the crysis benchmark @ 1280x800 NOT the useless 3dmark06
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Sigh...did I even mentioned 3dmark06? I guess you are referring to the one I post. Well, as you like. Go Google some more. Find the one whereby R680 can run Crysis at "playable" frame rate at 2560x1600 while HD3870 just stutter along.
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Well, the thing about Crysis is it doesn't scale too well with CF or SLI setups. If everything works right, it should get an enhancement of 70-80% over single card.

Hopefully, the developers will come out with a patch that fixes this.

As for 3DMarks, I think 3DMark03 is a better benchmark than '06. It's not bottlenecked by processor that much, unless you're running triple card configuration.
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I feel that there's a compelling need to benchmark your CPU as well. In a game, the GPU will handle the graphics (shadows, AA, lighting, etc.) but the CPU handles a hell lot of stuffs as well (AI - everyone in the game and not just those you see on screen - their movement, behaviour, etc., pathfinding - everyone as well, audio - if using onboard solution, physics - w/o Ageia, mapping, etc.) CPU is just as important for 3D.
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just saw an interesting news from hardforum saying that AMD gonna release this beast a week earlier... makes it 23rd of Jan... wonder when will be available for sale here... biggrin.gif

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/35629/118/
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ATI IQ better then NVIDIA like how...post screenies pls !
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QUOTE(king99 @ Jan 16 2008, 05:56 PM)
ATI IQ better then NVIDIA like how...post screenies pls !
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Here you go...


NVIDIA shocking.gif
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ATI drool.gif
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Better IQ for ATI is like, the anti-aliasing quality, anisotropic filtering quality is better than nvidia. Screenshots? i think you can find it using google where they do comparisons for image quality . I dont use ATI cards for quite some time but from my previous experience when i using ATI and Nvidia on 2 pc, i notice that ATI produce better image.
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i heard that R680 will be launched by next week from mydrivers source.
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here are the comparisons between Nvidia 8800GT and ATI HD3870 IQ's

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/AMD_Radeon...3F/5392-14.html


base on the site ATI card IQ are more deeper then nvidia's

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==' Cannot See Diffrence=='
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==' Cannot See Diffrence=='
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QUOTE(king99 @ Jan 16 2008, 09:23 PM)
==' Cannot See Diffrence=='
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go try it out your self . get a 8800 Gt and HD3870 . u will feel and see the diffrence. if no diffrence u notice . just stay with Nvidia .

if HD 3870 got no +positive side or advantage . why stilll it can survive in market ? rclxms.gif

remember IQ is not only apply to games . your desktop , movie spcially HD Movie . ... etc

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QUOTE(nagflar @ Jan 16 2008, 09:37 PM)
go try it out your self . get a 8800 Gt and HD3870 . u will feel and see the diffrence. if no diffrence u notice . just stay with Nvidia .

if HD 3870 got no +positive side or advantage . why stilll it can survive in market ?  rclxms.gif

remember IQ is not only apply to games . your desktop , movie spcially HD Movie . ... etc
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Now Memang Pening.....Donno want to go Ati,Nvidia or Voodo ?
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Seriously just get what you can afford....no point allowing fanboy loyalty to stop you from getting your moneys worth from a purchase. The most important stat is the price performance ratio which you can get a lot of info on the net on the new GC's.
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Seriously just get what you can afford....no point allowing fanboy loyalty to stop you from getting your moneys worth from a purchase. The most important stat is the price performance ratio which you can get a lot of info on the net on the new GC's.
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==' Cannot See Diffrence=='
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Here you go...
NVIDIA  shocking.gif
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this is why i choose to bought ATI card even the price is not much different with Nvidia...
wow... i wish my card can turn this picture into real person... haha doh.gif

btw, how much will cost for a ATI R680 card?

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image quality??
HD3870=K800i
8800GT=N73
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Rumoured...Double the price...but not double the performance...of HD3870.

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image quality??
HD3870=K800i
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hope 3870 drop price because of this
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QUOTE(choyster @ Jan 17 2008, 12:44 AM)
hope 3870 drop price because of this
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Because of R680? Won't affect much...but maybe lots of people ditch their HD3870 for the R680 lah. And you can get them cheap 2nd hand wink.gif

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honestly for me,3870 not such a big improvement from his previous brother 2900xt...
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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Jan 17 2008, 11:20 PM)
honestly for me,3870 not such a big improvement from his previous brother 2900xt...
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Wait for 3870x2 then tongue.gif
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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Jan 17 2008, 11:20 PM)
honestly for me,3870 not such a big improvement from his previous brother 2900xt...
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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Jan 17 2008, 11:20 PM)
honestly for me,3870 not such a big improvement from his previous brother 2900xt...
ATI...what happen to uu sad.gif
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Well you must compared the introduction price of HD3870 and 2900XT.

HD3870 is never meant to be fight with 8800Ultra, if so they would price > RM1.5k
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Well you must compared the introduction price of HD3870 and 2900XT.

HD3870 is never meant to be fight with 8800Ultra, if so they would price > RM1.5k
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i heard it's going to be retailed at USD500 which is roughly around rm1.8k here. hmm.gif
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i heard it's going to be retailed at USD500 which is roughly around rm1.8k here.  hmm.gif
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R680 are meant for ppl who does't have Xfire motherboard exp X38 with both X16 speed ~~~~
ppl who wan have a try on Xfire taste which does not have budget on X38 mobo will consider this ~~~~~~
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QUOTE(butthead012 @ Jan 18 2008, 12:13 PM)
got any source about it? if 1.8k then better get 2 hd3870 and xfire...
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i dont think r680 will cost more than 2x 3870..
rite now u can get 3870 for rm700++..
so if r680 is priced at rm1200 or rm1300 then it's definitely a steal brows.gif

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i dont think r680 will cost more than 2x 3870..
rite now u can get 3870 for rm700++..
so if r680 is priced at rm1200 or rm1300 than it's definitely a steal  brows.gif
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guess it will be around 1.7-1.8k sweat.gif ... cos the price will be around $449...

here is the page... http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7198.html
says it will be out on 23rd Jan
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QUOTE(butthead012 @ Jan 18 2008, 01:04 PM)
guess it will be around 1.7-1.8k  sweat.gif ... cos the price will be around $449...

here is the page... http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7198.html
says it will be out on 23rd Jan
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i though USD449 after conversion is RM1571? blink.gif
(i used 3.5 exchange rate)
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QUOTE(butthead012 @ Jan 18 2008, 01:04 PM)
guess it will be around 1.7-1.8k  sweat.gif ... cos the price will be around $449...

here is the page... http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7198.html
says it will be out on 23rd Jan
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but very soon, it will drop price d~~

that time sure is a good grap laugh.gif
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i though USD449 after conversion is RM1571? blink.gif
(i used 3.5 exchange rate)
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tax, shipping, agent ..... bla bla bla....

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i though USD449 after conversion is RM1571? blink.gif
(i used 3.5 exchange rate)
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tax, shipping, agent ..... bla bla bla....

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yalor, sure got abit charges ... u cant just multiply with the price...
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i though USD449 after conversion is RM1571? blink.gif
(i used 3.5 exchange rate)
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Yeah...and don't forget that people want to make extra for the first 2 months since it is "HOT" item...
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thanks
it's 3.27 now. doh.gif

so 449 x 3.27 = 1468

add another rm200 for etc charges should be around RM1.6k here. brows.gif
if this is real, it will be a nice card in terms of performance per price ratio.
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 18 2008, 03:12 PM)
add another rm200 for etc charges should be around RM1.6k here.  brows.gif
if this is real, it will be a nice card in terms of performance per price ratio.
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That's similar to getting 2 HD3870 and CF...Hoping this R680 can run without the need of a CF board.
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 18 2008, 04:12 PM)
thanks
it's 3.27 now.  doh.gif

so 449 x 3.27 = 1468

add another rm200 for etc charges should be around RM1.6k here.  brows.gif
if this is real, it will be a nice card in terms of performance per price ratio.
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Make it RM1699 for the early birds icon_idea.gif, buying 3.30 u won't get 3.27 exact.
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Let's wait and see the bulk price for this then wink.gif
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After it released. Hope can use low price grab Ultra brows.gif

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That's similar to getting 2 HD3870 and CF...Hoping this R680 can run without the need of a CF board.
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why do you need a CF board for single pcb card?
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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jan 18 2008, 04:27 PM)
Make it RM1699 for the early birds icon_idea.gif, buying 3.30 u won't get 3.27 exact.
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i'd say RM1499 at LYP can get... hmm.gif
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i'd say RM1499 at LYP can get... hmm.gif
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if its start selling a rm1499 then id say its reasonable but im hoping for the card to be priced at sub rm1300..
btw ill be ditching my old gts and maybe upgrade to r680 or 9800gx2 if the price is right brows.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 18 2008, 05:07 PM)
why do you need a CF board for single pcb card?
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We aren't surea bout it yet. Maybe it really requires a CF board since the caard itself is CF-ed in a different manner. 7950GX2 required an SLI board, although it is dual PCB...but we'll see how it turns out.
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these R680 i guess no need to get C-Fire slot board.. hmm.gif
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so if i'm using a spider platform,
and i crossfire - X 4 of these cards
does that mean that i'm running on 8 gpu cores?
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QUOTE(Radeon @ Jan 19 2008, 12:16 PM)
so if i'm using a spider platform,
and i crossfire - X 4 of these cards
does that mean that i'm running on 8 gpu cores?
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Is ATi drivers support quad setups? or might juz ended up like SLi Hybrid?
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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Jan 19 2008, 10:55 AM)
these R680 i guess no need to get C-Fire slot board.. hmm.gif
wanna try these R680 soon drool.gif
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It may need the CF chip in the motherboard to actually function. I'm hoping that it does not.
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QUOTE(Radeon @ Jan 19 2008, 11:16 AM)
so if i'm using a spider platform,
and i crossfire - X 4 of these cards
does that mean that i'm running on 8 gpu cores?
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i tot for 3870x2, the max is only 2 cards...
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It may need the CF chip in the motherboard to actually function. I'm hoping that it does not.
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yeah .. hopefully it is not..cos if really need a CF board, ppl with CF board would just rather buy another 3870 n CF it instead...the CF chip requirement will kinda defeat the purpose of glue-ing two cards together as one... same thing should be said of 9800x2 as well...
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QUOTE(Radeon @ Jan 19 2008, 11:16 AM)
so if i'm using a spider platform,
and i crossfire - X 4 of these cards
does that mean that i'm running on 8 gpu cores?
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Hmm...I don't think the drivers support that.


QUOTE(smokey @ Jan 19 2008, 02:39 PM)
i tot for 3870x2, the max is only 2 cards...
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Jan 19 2008, 03:15 PM)
yeah .. hopefully it is not..cos if really need a CF board, ppl with CF board would just rather buy another 3870 n CF it instead...the CF chip requirement will kinda defeat the purpose of glue-ing two cards together as one... same thing should be said of 9800x2 as well...
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Or...they will buy one of this and CF with their existing HD3870 = 3 cores.
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Or...they will buy one of this and CF with their existing HD3870 = 3 cores.
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hmm... u have a good point there... but is it compatible then ? hopefully nonit chip la... my mobo oni got one slot lerh cry.gif .... praying hard..
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Jan 19 2008, 04:04 PM)
hmm... u have a good point there... but is it compatible then ? hopefully nonit chip la... my mobo oni got one slot lerh cry.gif  .... praying hard..
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The hope is there biggrin.gif It has a chip on the single PCB between the two RV670...I think that's the CF chip...
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this card is quite long is it??
either it can fit my i-cute modded rev3.2 casing or not.. hmm.gif
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this card is quite long is it??
either it can fit my i-cute modded rev3.2 casing or not.. hmm.gif
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it's same length with 8800GTX ....slightly over the atx mobo.
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QUOTE(smokey @ Jan 19 2008, 02:39 PM)
i tot for 3870x2, the max is only 2 cards...
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QUOTE(clayclws @ Jan 19 2008, 03:44 PM)
Hmm...I don't think the drivers support that.
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if it's a driver issue, it's not a really big issue right?
im saying that if the drivers support, we'll have 8 cores?
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So guys blush.gif

When do you think we will be able to grab this bayby?

I say it is not after Valentine rclxub.gif


What says you?


What about the PSU any Ideas if you wish to CF?

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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 19 2008, 07:32 PM)
it's same length with 8800GTX ....slightly over the atx mobo.
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rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif R680!!!here i come!! rclxm9.gif
btw......how much aa?? hmm.gif cry.gif
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It's rumoured to be released on 23rd Jan...of which, seems very realitic. Pricing is anyone's guess.
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if its start selling a rm1499 then id say its reasonable but im hoping for the card to be priced at sub rm1300..
btw ill be ditching my old gts and maybe upgrade to r680 or 9800gx2 if the price is right  brows.gif  icon_idea.gif
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maybe around April Powercolor price will somewhere there... or Sapphire... brows.gif
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That, you need to ask the distributors or resellers (retail).
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get 680 2x make it cf!
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get 680 2x make it cf!
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8pin? arrghhh. I need 1k psu to CF these babies. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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can anybody here confirm the final clocks. thanks.

825MHz core
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^ and a lawnmower-car radiator hybrid gpu cooler.

can anybody here confirm the final clocks. thanks.

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Launching tomoro... hahaha
hope its true... then we will see how good performance this card is...
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some result for this new GC..

http://en.expreview.com/?p=219
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QUOTE(Amal @ Jan 22 2008, 05:38 PM)
some result for this new GC..

http://en.expreview.com/?p=219
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hm...the benchmark for Crysis is kinda dissapointing. even the ultra pawns this card in every resolution (crysis). how come? hmm.gif
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hm...the benchmark for Crysis is kinda dissapointing. even the ultra pawns this card in every resolution (crysis). how come? hmm.gif
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chinese version of review

http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/graphics/re...01/1210234.html
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QUOTE(Amal @ Jan 22 2008, 05:38 PM)
some result for this new GC..

http://en.expreview.com/?p=219
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ouch the heat is killing laugh.gif sweat.gif
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ouch the heat is killing laugh.gif sweat.gif
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Wait for benchmark after the NDA.
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R680 works in CF mode...sort of. And Crysis has problem with CF.
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i thought they fixed the problem in cat8.1?
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another biggrin.gif review: http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video/amd-r...-3870-x2-review

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QUOTE(butthead012 @ Jan 22 2008, 09:56 PM)
another  biggrin.gif review: http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video/amd-r...-3870-x2-review
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Doesn't look impressive on that review based upon the charts but the reviewers seem to think that it is a great card. Priced at USD449? Hmm, that's almost double of HD3870. If it really is priced and performed as seen on that review, this card is a waste of money for HD38xx owners that want to upgrade...

Added on January 22, 2008, 10:05 pmOh, btw, butthead012, you do not need to put the [color=red] code for HTTP. It is automatically coloured red and you can actually click on it to be directed to the website.

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you don't need a CF board for this card. biggrin.gif
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btw , is it the card around US$449 ?
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the price was set but it may be more out there... laugh.gif
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remember guys...crysis is optimized for Nvidia...so that explains d low scores on d X2 card. Dunno...maybe it'll get better in da official catalyst driver...
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The Radeon HD 3870 X2 on the bench today is a very early sample of the card and the drivers even more so. That's not to say the numbers you're about to see aren't accurate, it's just we wish we could have tested it closer to launch with proper software support.

So, it's not really an accurate benchmark...Thank GOD~! I would've been very disappointed if it was...


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Our testing occurred in an office adjacent to one of the main railroad arteries in southern California, and it was not uncommon that the sound of the passing trains were drowned out by the X2's fan when under a full graphics load. Not exaggerating.

OMG, do we need 2 x HR03GT? Each in different mounting position?


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Something you won't find in the specs is that this video card will work on any PCI-Express X16 capable motherboard. It was widely assumed in the early-going that the card would only work on motherboards that support CrossFire technology. In reality, however, the CrossFire option does not even become available in the Catalyst driver when using this card. All CrossFire connectivity appears to be handled internally, and the computer recognizes the X2 as a single video card.

Yes, it doesn't require CF boards. Hurrah~!


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We received this card very shortly after AMD started sampling to board partners, and as such the driver we managed to download from the AMD ftp was an early build of what we believe wound up being Catalyst 7.12.

Again, non-optimized drivers.
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hm...the benchmark for Crysis is kinda dissapointing. even the ultra pawns this card in every resolution (crysis). how come? hmm.gif
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crysis slides toward nvida cards coz nvidia partnerd tat game

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so anyone know where got sell this card yet?
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Ok, here's a good and trustworthy review: http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/23/ati...ge_fury_maxx_2/


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The chart above sums it up for me. At USD400+ (Tomshardware actually mentioned the price was at USD586), this card ain't worth the upgrade from my HD3870.

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some diffrence bramd of r680
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anyone know where available now? might wanna check them out especially the price laugh.gif

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Asus . R.O.G HD 3870X2 pic
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/ASUS_EAH38...Specs/5525.html


p.s sry internet connection this few days quite slow cannot upload the pic haiz doh.gif

oh myy Gecube using liquid state caps doh.gif instead of OEM ATI using Digital PWMs

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avaiable at lowyat yt? need to know the price. >_<
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MSRP Price will be US449=+-RM1550. Expect double the HD 3870 price for now.
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lowyat got sell alraedy?
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lowyat got sell alraedy?
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LOL...the link I posted to Tomshardware's review of R680 is invalid now. Good thing I got an image from their review. Guess AMD.ATI ain't happy about Tomshardware breaking the NDA...it's not 23rd over there yet.
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dang asus version looks 2 ugly and big laugh.gif sapphire/powercolor version not bad wey rclxms.gif
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it is 24 over here and yet lyn are not selling it doh.gif
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QUOTE(Ezonizs @ Jan 24 2008, 01:15 AM)
it is 24 over here and yet lyn are not selling it  doh.gif
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Supply not easily available, maybe? I'll go have a look today or Friday.
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Jan 24 2008, 12:28 AM)
dang asus version looks 2 ugly and big laugh.gif sapphire/powercolor version not bad wey rclxms.gif
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but maybe the ugly and big asus is more cooling efficient than the rest brows.gif
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I would think Asus is probably a better solution than Powercolor or Sapphire has to offer at the moment. The stock fan and heatsink would shame my Mom's hairdryer.
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I wonder why the Asus need 4 DVI?
maybe need to support ppl gaming with 4 LCD setting? tongue.gif
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lol, i bet ASUS X2 product price is 200~300 more than PowerColor/Sapphire version >_<

PowerColor still not using/release their SCS version yet, to 3870x2 card ..
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QUOTE(cschun86 @ Jan 24 2008, 01:41 AM)
I wonder why the Asus need 4 DVI?
maybe need to support ppl gaming with 4 LCD setting? tongue.gif
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People with 4 monitors. Sometimes, 2 ain't enough. Asus is not the only want to do that.
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wondering it support waterblock such as mcw-60? watercooling this card seems easier thn 2 pcb nvdia 9 series...
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this is just not impressive... http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1279/1/pa...tion/index.html
maybe its still an early review? laugh.gif

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ASUS/PowerColor/Sapphire release 1 GB version, while MSI 512 MB version? hmm.gif
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ASUS/PowerColor/Sapphire release 1 GB version, while MSI 512 MB version? hmm.gif
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err, something is wrong on the gpu-z... i dunno why its saying 512mb there laugh.gif cant me 512mb...
even the box says 1gb ddr3 biggrin.gif
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but maybe the ugly and big asus is more cooling efficient than the rest  brows.gif
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ouch then i guess we need an even bigger casing 4 that gigantic cool baby laugh.gif

anyway the GECUBE version looks like an 8800GS with double zalman fan laugh.gif

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MSI 3870X2 RM1600 ?? ONLY ??

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/616580
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MSI 3870X2 RM1600 ?? ONLY ??

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/616580
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its a good buy but dunno its real or not
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Why don't they have comparison with xfire HD3870.

That something that most of us would like to us.

Does Dual 3870 > xfire 3870.
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i think 3870x2 should be better than 3870 CF.. it's running on single slot x16... while CF does dual slot @ x8 rite..

the truth is... 3870x2 really pown the 8800ultra.. price & performance.. it will take both...
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QUOTE(nles @ Jan 24 2008, 06:15 PM)
Why don't they have comparison with xfire HD3870.

That something that most of us would like to us.

Does Dual 3870 > xfire 3870.
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i think 3870x2 should be better than 3870 CF.. it's running on single slot x16... while CF does dual slot @ x8 rite..

the truth is... 3870x2 really pown the 8800ultra.. price & performance..  it will take both...
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well the x16,x8 or x4 depends on ur mobo right? AFAIK high end CF mobo have both slot @ pci-e x16

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high end mobo like asus maximus can have both pcie for 16x...

i also wanna know is hd3870x2 better than hd3870 cf... wink.gif
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Been to Lowyat and back yesterday...don't know if they really don't have it or they are keeping mum on the 3870X2. Seems like NDA ISN'T 23rd Jan after all...
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i noticed in some 3870x2 reviews the gpuz shows that the plex pcie bridge chip is on pcie 1.1 not pcie 2.0

anybody can confirm this?
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QUOTE(jinaun @ Jan 25 2008, 08:39 AM)
i noticed in some 3870x2 reviews the gpuz shows that the plex pcie bridge chip is on pcie 1.1 not pcie 2.0

anybody can confirm this?
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I noticed that as well. Particularly Tomshardware (which I trust) but I'm not sure if the link I posted is still there. Can't confirm yet though. But if the professionals said so, I wouldn't disagree.
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A question here.
Wouldn't 3870X2 a better solution than 3870 crossfire?

Not all games support CF but all the games should support 3870X2 even without any patch.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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A question here.
Wouldn't 3870X2 a better solution than 3870 crossfire?

Not all games support CF but all the games should support 3870X2 even without any patch.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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According to several reviews, 3870X2 has the same problem with CF. Any games that has problem with CF will have problem with 3870X2.
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Well, it's no surprise it has the same problems with CF. It is, after all, a dual-GPU solution. If you take a look at the CPU-Z, it says "Crossfire: Enabled". So, I think it's still using the same Crossfire communication between the GPUs.

There's one more advantage for 3870 X2 over CF, you don't need to buy an expensive CF-mobo to use it. Which is a huge plus considering CF-mobo is expensive.

But, I really hope DAAMIT can fix the AA performance hit. Enabling AA really hurts any ATi cards.

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I have got another question here regarding the hd3870 CF vs hd3870x2...
wouldnt it be better using hd3870 CF as they are using DDR4 while hd3870x2 using DDR3...

so are there any negatives in DDR3 vs DDR4 while both also 1gb? any idea? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(butthead012 @ Jan 25 2008, 10:18 AM)
I have got another question here regarding the hd3870 CF vs hd3870x2...
wouldnt it be better using hd3870 CF as they are using DDR4 while hd3870x2 using DDR3...

so are there any negatives in DDR3 vs DDR4 while both also 1gb? any idea? hmm.gif
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well i think if u have a mobo that supports 16x 16x cf then hd3870 cf is the way to go because its memory clockspeed is 2250mhz compared to r680's memory clockspeed of 1800mhz.. icon_idea.gif
on the other hand, if u dont have a cf capable mobo, then u're better off with r680 as it uses internal cf to utilize both rv670 gpu nod.gif

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my mobo is p35... laugh.gif
can crossfire but bottleneck doh.gif
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my mobo is p35...  laugh.gif
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yala same as my mobo, p35 cf only 16x 4x...
sure bottleneck... single card all the way for me tongue.gif
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its has being delay till monday (28th January)
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According to some website, that the latest catalyst 8.1 is unoptimised for R680. The performance between R680 and R670 CF is the same.
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dont mind the delays s long s the performance can kick the crap outta the 9800GX2 good dy laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(zeronehza @ Jan 24 2008, 10:06 PM)
i think 3870x2 should be better than 3870 CF.. it's running on single slot x16... while CF does dual slot @ x8 rite..

the truth is... 3870x2 really pown the 8800ultra.. price & performance..  it will take both...
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no the current HD3870 will pawn the HD3870X2

CF on X38 runs full PCIE2.0 16x

also the HD3870X2 depends on the games support for multi gpu..and the current HD3870X2 has a clock limit at 860 and a slower ram..

the benefits is only the 1gb of mem it has.

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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jan 25 2008, 09:57 AM)
Well, it's no surprise it has the same problems with CF. It is, after all, a dual-GPU solution. If you take a look at the CPU-Z, it says "Crossfire: Enabled". So, I think it's still using the same Crossfire communication between the GPUs.

There's one more advantage for 3870 X2 over CF, you don't need to buy an expensive CF-mobo to use it. Which is a huge plus considering CF-mobo is expensive.

But, I really hope DAAMIT can fix the AA performance hit. Enabling AA really hurts any ATi cards.

* Just for some information, DAAMIT is the new ATI/AMD name.
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dont judge the cpuz on crossfire for the HD3870X2..

its not crossfire...
its a multigpu card..

there is a difference.

whats ikan??? oh ikan... explain the probs with the HD3870X2 ati drivers...
hmm is he MIA??

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dont judge the cpuz on crossfire for the HD3870X2..

its not crossfire...
its a multigpu card..


Nah, what I meant is that it's still using the same driver for X2 and CF.. So the performance will be roughly the same..

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Nah, what I meant is that it's still using the same driver for X2 and CF.. So the performance will be roughly the same..
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dude it works differently
if what u say is true
then there shouldnt be a problem with crysis???

but there is... and also a few other games from what i was told...
and all those games has no issue with CF.
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Review: HD3870x2 vs 8800 ultra vs HD3870 crossfire
http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2008/01/26/002729321_07.shtml

Note: its in chinese.

ENJOY~

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QUOTE(butthead012 @ Jan 27 2008, 11:04 PM)
Review: HD3870x2 vs 8800 ultra vs HD3870 crossfire
http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2008/01/26/002729321_07.shtml

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in chinese again doh.gif ..but anyways thanks dude for bringing all those reviews here... as for the reviews, again the result is not conclusive vs 8800 ultra... i find it very weird especially when the AA n AF is turned on in NFS:PS will cause a big drop in performance on 3870x2 but not 3870 CF ... driver issue? (i cant read chinese..so i wont noe if they mentioned it there tongue.gif )
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me banana too laugh.gif but u have 2 respect the chinese reviewers who does have a lot of useful quality crap content 4 us 2 read unlike the english counterparts doh.gif no only in PC dept but even the chinese car tuning magazine like option auto have a lot more content than hypertune and other malay kereta crap mag doh.gif the best we bananas can do is 2 see pictures lo laugh.gif like i said picture speaks a million words tongue.gif tongue.gif

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lol they actually weight the card sweat.gif ~ same me banana also tho i'm from chinese school from standard 2 to 6~~ Failed ~~ in UPSR laugh.gif blush.gif
today official launch date for this card hmm.gif seee who will be buying it laugh.gif

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QUOTE(butthead012 @ Jan 27 2008, 11:04 PM)
Review: HD3870x2 vs 8800 ultra vs HD3870 crossfire
http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2008/01/26/002729321_07.shtml

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OMG , Rock GPU ... cant stop upgrading laugh.gif

edit : 3870X2 1KG doh.gif

here is another chinese web , just a picture .. take a look
RV680

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ASUS Launches World's First Onboard Dual RV670XT with EAH3870X2 Series
News Taipei, Taiwan, January 23, 2008 - ASUS, producer of top quality graphic solutions, has today unveiled the latest generation of AMD GPUs - the world´s first on-board dual RV670XT, with the ASUS EAH3870X2/G/3DHTI/1G and EAH3870X2/G/HTDI/1G. The EAH3870X2/G/3DHTI/1G comes equipped with the fastest upgraded DRR3 0.8ns memory modules and two exclusive extra DVI outputs. It also comes specially designed with dual fansinks for both GPUs - ensuring efficient heat dissipation. On top of all this, the ASUS EAH3870X2 Series will also come bundled with the hottest DX10 game, Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts.
how come this website call it r670 huh??wrong typo??
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its R680

hmm in a dilemma
should a get a the HD3870x2 now or wait
since its having probs with overclocking above 860..
and the cooler sucks.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jan 28 2008, 08:54 PM)
its R680

hmm in a dilemma
should a get a the HD3870x2 now or wait
since its  having probs with overclocking above 860..
and the cooler sucks.
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walau brother...u got 3870 CF liao still want this card ka? brows.gif
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GeCube HD 3870 X2 X-Turbo Dual

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lastest benchies with new driver

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Nice improvement for Crysis, but it's still not enough =D
What's the setting for Crysis? Ultra High or High?

Anyway, ASUS also has dual fan for 3870X2, and as usual bundled with Company of Heroes.
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jan 28 2008, 08:50 PM)
Nice improvement for Crysis, but it's still not enough =D
What's the setting for Crysis? Ultra High or High?

Anyway, ASUS also has dual fan for 3870X2, and as usual bundled with Company of Heroes.
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no idea yet, just found the graph from other site. sweat.gif

asus one also comes with 2 6pin pcie?
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doh.gif FPS gap not even 10fps compare HD3870X2 with 8800GTX sweat.gif
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http://www.hothardware.com/articles/R680_H...eon_HD_3870_X2/

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_3870_X2

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1281/gecu...card/index.html

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3209

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/28/ati...ge_fury_maxx_2/

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/AMDX2Review/index.php

http://techreport.com/articles.x/13967

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http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2008/0128/tawada129.htm

http://www.4gamer.net/games/044/G004473/20080127008/

http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/103/103468/

http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/pcuser/articles...28/news049.html

http://journal.mycom.co.jp/articles/2008/0...70X2/index.html

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Nice improvement for Crysis, but it's still not enough =D
What's the setting for Crysis? Ultra High or High?

Anyway, ASUS also has dual fan for 3870X2, and as usual bundled with Company of Heroes.
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and they replaced the 1.0ns ddr3 with a 0.8ns ddr3
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Most of the reviews gave positive outlook for the card but I don't think the price will justify the purchase if you're a HD3870 owner and has a CF board. Even more so if you're a 8800GT owner with SLI board.
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English

http://www.hothardware.com/articles/R680_H...eon_HD_3870_X2/

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_3870_X2

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1281/gecu...card/index.html

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3209

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/28/ati...ge_fury_maxx_2/

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/AMDX2Review/index.php

http://techreport.com/articles.x/13967

Japanese

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2008/0128/tawada129.htm

http://www.4gamer.net/games/044/G004473/20080127008/

http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/103/103468/

http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/pcuser/articles...28/news049.html

http://journal.mycom.co.jp/articles/2008/0...70X2/index.html

German

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/?article_id=629881
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Nice links there bro. Thanks alot...

This baby is indeed very very long. At least around the same size as the 8800GTX.

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well i guess this one is good 4 those ppl with small casings laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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well i guess this one is good 4 those ppl with small casings laugh.gif  rclxms.gif
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huh, what talking you?
it will use up 2 slots(same as R680 stock cooler)
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huh, what talking you?
it will use up 2 slots(same as R680 stock cooler)
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laugh.gif what i meant was the length of the card itself can surely fit small casing unlike the original R680 n 8800 ultra tongue.gif
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Finally Guru 3D H.I.S HD3870 X2 review

using stock cooler~~ Wonder are they coming out IceCube 3 edition of it ~~ hmm.gif

http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/490/1

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no sign of this babe's price on all the pricelist of LYN...
no one buy it?? i wanna know the actual price for this babe..
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no sign of this babe's price on all the pricelist of LYN...
no one buy it?? i wanna know the actual price for this babe..
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i have been looking for this for a while already also cant find anyone selling ...

try "ROCKROCK" in display section, he is selling MSI and Sapphire for around 1.5k but he didn't reply my pm... laugh.gif
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[quote=kaiser_falco,Jan 28 2008, 07:14 PM]
how come this website call it r670 huh??wrong typo??
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[/quote]

from guru3d :

[/QUOTE]Ehm, I hear you ask "Hilbert, you persistently say RV670 but I heard this cards is manufactured under codename R680 ??". Yes, see if you take two RV670 graphics processor units, stick them on the same PCB and bridge them .. then you have a product under codename R680. R680 is simply a codename that ATI used to develop this multi-core based graphics card. So if you'd take two 512 MB HD 3870 cards and run them in Crossfire ... you'd have nearly identical performance.[QUOTE]

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Finally Guru 3D H.I.S HD3870 X2 review

using stock cooler~~ Wonder are they coming out IceCube 3 edition of it ~~ hmm.gif

http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/490/1

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woah turbo iceq 3 version of this baby would kick more serious ass on the mass heat 4 sure laugh.gif rclxms.gif

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woah turbo iceq 3 version of this baby would kick more serious ass on the mass heat 4 sure laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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Going to have to wait for very long for that version to appear. It's not easy to design heatsinks for such a card. I wonder if Thermalright will design any specifically for it. Or just slap 2 HR03GT on it?
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What games are bundled with the HIS? Is it the Black Edition?
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hmm so a lot of talk.. anybody bought it yet??

me decided for first time not going to be guine pig..
was guinea for the 320gts, 2900xt, 3870, 8800gt, 8800gts 512

so this time wanna see some ppl else posting performance no.
more importantly overclocking and temps..

bit worried about the temps ..
a lot of the reviews are done in middle of the coldest month in winter..

so malaysia means plus another 20C min
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jan 29 2008, 06:02 PM)
hmm so a lot of talk.. anybody bought it yet??

me decided for first time not going to be guine pig..
was guinea for the 320gts, 2900xt, 3870, 8800gt, 8800gts 512

so this time wanna see some ppl else posting performance no.
more importantly overclocking and temps..

bit worried about the temps ..
a lot of the reviews are done in middle of the coldest month in winter..

so malaysia means plus another 20C min
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You do realize that the reviewers didn't put their PC out in the open, in the blistering cold, right? They use heaters at home, to raise the temperature around 25-27°C. Some Malaysians like to set their aircon to the lowest possible (around 16°C) of which, will cause the room temperature to be around 20-23°C.

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You do realize that the reviewers didn't put their PC out in the open, in the blistering cold, right? They use heaters at home, to raise the temperature around 25-27°C. Some Malaysians like to set their aircon to the lowest possible (around 16°C) of which, will cause the room temperature to be around 20-23°C.
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hmm i think u never lived overseas..
i did for 4 years.

a lot of ppl dont use heaters that much unless ure rich to pay ure gas bills.

most of the time we control the temps only for the bedroom to be warm during nights.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jan 29 2008, 06:21 PM)
hmm i think u never lived overseas..
i did for 4 years.

a lot of ppl dont use heaters that much unless ure rich to pay ure gas bills.

most of the time we control the temps only for the bedroom to be warm during nights.
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Yeah, I never lived overseas. But I did go there during winter. But would you think people at Tomshardware, Anandtech, and guru3D would overlook the ambient temperature? And I don't think they don't have problems with heating. Unless you go to forums whereby individuals post their rresults, that's another matter.
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Yeah, I never lived overseas. But I did go there during winter. But would you think people at Tomshardware, Anandtech, and guru3D would overlook the ambient temperature? And I don't think they don't have problems with heating. Unless you go to forums whereby individuals post their rresults, that's another matter.
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i am not going to waste my time talking about this.. but if u want a few reviewers hp no.
i can give them to u.... kindda talk to some of them often.
happy?
guru3d.. yeah i know a few of them.. u wanna ask them personally??.

trust me when i say most ppl dont run heaters in their computer room. and all this benchmark are bench rigs and are in the open. or go get a HD3870x2.. do ure own temps monitoring and compare that to those of anand..
yeah he used a magic wand..



if u can even achieve some of the older overclocks on stock gpu that vrzone has done.. i would be suprise.


so anybody bought the hd3870x2 yet??

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dude, the picture you show is DangerDen waterblock for R680. doh.gif

this is CoolIT waterblock
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ANOTHER REVEIW HIS R680 BY hardwarezone

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view....2475&cid=3&pg=1
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my friend browse the lyp last afternoon..
check out the czone..

they area already release sapphire 3870x2 @ RM 1699 damn cheap than ultra !!
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wander who will buy ultra again whistling.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/622465

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my friend browse the lyp last afternoon..
check out the czone..

they area already release sapphire 3870x2 @ RM 1699 damn cheap than ultra !!
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performance wise for this card not that remarkable sweat.gif use back my 8800GTS G92 laugh.gif until i see some amazing results with optimize drivers wink.gif

Rm1599 ~ RM1699 quite resonable brows.gif hops Nvidia 9800GX2 dont cost more then Rm1800 can de doh.gif

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i am not going to waste my time talking about this.. but if u want a few reviewers hp no.
i can give them to u.... kindda talk to some of them often.
happy?
guru3d.. yeah i know a few of them.. u wanna ask them personally??.

trust me when i say most ppl dont run heaters in their computer room. and all this benchmark are bench rigs and are in the open. or go get a HD3870x2.. do ure own temps monitoring and compare that to those of anand..
yeah he used a magic wand..
if u can even achieve some of the older overclocks on stock gpu that vrzone has done.. i would be suprise.
so anybody bought the hd3870x2 yet??
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Haha~! Ok ok. You make your point. I play GW with lots of people from 4 season countries and most of them use heaters in their house, so they don't really think that winter would affect their cooling. Anyway, let's put this thing aside.

That HD3870X2 is available in Lowyat. I can confirm that. Saw it and the price just blew me away. But it's really close to recommended retail price. Then again, one should only consider this after the release of better stock heatsinks or 3rd party ones from reputable manufacturers.
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cry.gif  cry.gif so expensive  cry.gif  cry.gif
how can a student can afford this? altot im really falling to this babe...  drool.gif
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Haha~! Ok ok. You make your point. I play GW with lots of people from 4 season countries and most of them use heaters in their house, so they don't really think that winter would affect their cooling. Anyway, let's put this thing aside.

That HD3870X2 is available in Lowyat. I can confirm that. Saw it and the price just blew me away. But it's really close to recommended retail price. Then again, one should only consider this after the release of better stock heatsinks or 3rd party ones from reputable manufacturers.
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cry.gif  cry.gif so expensive  cry.gif  cry.gif
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czone way over priced..

can get it for Rm1500-1550..
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Well, bargaining power, pursuasion and a little bit knowledge on bulk price will help the consumers get the card at relatively lower price that is closer to recommended retail price.
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RM1550, quite resonable, seems like a good idea to ditch my 3870 to get this babe......... hrm..... hard decision....... too bad i dun have pci-e 8 pin ar .......
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RM1550, quite resonable, seems like a good idea to ditch my 3870 to get this babe......... hrm..... hard decision....... too bad i dun have pci-e 8 pin ar .......
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3870 CF vs this card...which one better?
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almost the same, check the results from review in previous pages
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RM1550, quite resonable, seems like a good idea to ditch my 3870 to get this babe......... hrm..... hard decision....... too bad i dun have pci-e 8 pin ar .......
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anyway, any news on price drop for 3870?

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i think u can CF 3870x2 with a regular 3870 since crossfireX support 2,3 and 4 gpu...so u dont need to sell ur 3870 yet...
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Guys doh.gif you can use 2 X 6 pin power connector for HD 3870 X2 just that the Overdrive (OC) options will be disabled only laugh.gif
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everything which NEW and HOT always pricier biggrin.gif
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this baby crazy . QX9650 4GHz ddr3 890Mhz score 2xxxx on 3dmark

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wow nice score . with the price range 1.5k - 1.6k . we have to say bye bye to Ultra . hehe

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minus 2 ~3k 3Dmark score from that if you are using dualcore haha laugh.gif
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QUOTE(onimusha333 @ Jan 30 2008, 12:28 AM)
cry.gif  cry.gif so expensive  cry.gif  cry.gif
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DDR3 ram gave more benefit on 3dmark compare to ddr2 . this is wat i see in coolaler forum ..
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Powercolor Non-reference 3870X2 (shorter PCB and better cooler)

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souce from

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Jan 30 2008, 12:31 PM)
wat is black edition ?haha tongue.gif

btw, i just get know my suplier there got stock already. later i will take 1 for try.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Powercolor Non-reference 3870X2 (shorter PCB and better cooler)

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souce from

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OMG , 4 DVI port , but lack HDMI blush.gif
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 30 2008, 05:27 PM)
Powercolor Non-reference 3870X2 (shorter PCB and better cooler)

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


souce from

http://news.mydrivers.com/1/99/99170.htm
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lol cooler looks erhhhhhh ugly doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif prefer reference laugh.gif

but the card is short thats the benefit of it rclxms.gif

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Cooling is meant to be efficient. The stock cooling solution is terrible. Very noisy and very hot.
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understand now why that's so loooooooooooooog

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Powercolor Non-reference 3870X2 (shorter PCB and better cooler)

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really sexy ... great design

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seamonster, got plan to grab one?
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wonder how this card work with p35 chipset mobo...

is the 2.0 pci-e lane so effective? how's the performance if use normal 1.0 pci-e lane cos i'm using asus p5k mobo~
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performance drop by 5~10% maybe ?
the actual benefit from PCIE 2.0 is double the power supply to tha PCIE lane only wink.gif
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wonder how this card work with p35 chipset mobo...

is the 2.0 pci-e lane so effective? how's the performance if use normal 1.0 pci-e lane cos i'm using asus p5k mobo~
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will stuck!

PCIE 2.0 and PCIE 1.0 really far distance smile.gif

PCIE 2.0 realease the MAx power for the GC
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seamonster, got plan to grab one?
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Crossfire kaw kaw it!!!

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performance drop by 5~10% maybe ?
the actual benefit from PCIE 2.0 is double the power supply to tha PCIE lane only wink.gif
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Erm...here's something easy to read to know about PCI-Express: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express
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i read the pc weekly and wrote that pci 2.0 realease the power of the GC
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QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Jan 30 2008, 09:34 PM)
i read the pc weekly and wrote that pci 2.0 realease the power of the GC
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I was referring to Ezonics who mentioned that, "the actual benefit from PCIE 2.0 is double the power supply to tha PCIE lane only".
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Erm...here's something easy to read to know about PCI-Express: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express
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as far as i know this is how it goes
pcie1.1 slots max 75 watts
pcie 2x3 pin max 75 watts

pcie 2.0 120 watts
pcie 2x4pin 115watts ( i could be wrong on this)
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Hey guys...
GeForce 9600 game out already....

benchmark from some website stated that 2 GeForce 9600GT SLi can defeat GeForce 8800 Ultra

nice...
nVIDIA ROX !!!
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QUOTE(general_odin @ Jan 30 2008, 10:22 PM)
Hey guys...
GeForce 9600 game out already....

benchmark from some website stated that 2 GeForce 9600GT SLi can defeat GeForce 8800 Ultra

nice...
nVIDIA ROX !!!
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any link?
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hi..correct me if i am wrong


one thing unconfirm..this card supports pcie 2.0 and pcie x16..
but the bridge on the ( the bridge that connects two chips together on a PCB )card is only supports pcie x16 so even though if connect this card on a pcie2.0 board, it wont give u the benefits on pcie2.0....

read from a chinese site, if you put a pcie1.1 card on a pcie2.0 mobo, the performance will run better than the 1.1 one..
somehow rather if putting this card in a pcie2.0 mobo still can perform better than the pcie1.1..but it wont work on pcie2.0, it'd only recognized as pcie1.1

now the 3870x2 is 800/1800 or 825/1800 or 850/1800 by fan cooling..
read from fudzilla there is a water cooling coming on next week, one of those can hit over 900+/2000


source that tells this card will lose all the benefits from pcie2.0
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...d=5356&Itemid=1

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QUOTE(general_odin @ Jan 30 2008, 10:22 PM)
Hey guys...
GeForce 9600 game out already....

benchmark from some website stated that 2 GeForce 9600GT SLi can defeat GeForce 8800 Ultra

nice...
nVIDIA ROX !!!
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hi..correct me if i am wrong
one thing unconfirm..this card supports pcie 2.0 and pcie x16..
but the bridge on the ( the bridge that connects two chips together on a PCB )card is only supports pcie x16 so even though if connect this card on a pcie2.0 board, it wont give u the benefits on pcie2.0....

read from a chinese site, if you put a pcie1.1 card on a pcie2.0 mobo, the performance will run better than the 1.1 one..
somehow rather if putting this card in a pcie2.0 mobo still can perform better than the pcie1.1..but it wont work on pcie2.0, it'd only recognized as pcie1.1

now the 3870x2 is 800/1800 or 825/1800 or 850/1800 by fan cooling..
read from fudzilla there is a water cooling coming on next week, one of those can hit over 900+/2000
source that tells this card will lose all the benefits from pcie2.0
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...d=5356&Itemid=1
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Jeez it doesn't even matter. PCI-E 2.0 as of now only provides 1-3FPS performance difference from PCI-E 1.x.
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Looks like competition from AMD/ATI is heating up. Great to see some interesting stuff happening on AMD/ATI side. I never knew Radeon 3870x2 was in development.

Generally, I like AMD/ATI Radeon cards in terms of graphics, I used to own a Radeon 9800 Pro. How is the AMD/ATI drivers these days?

After that I went for Nvidia 7 series and now Geforce 8800GT. Is this card considered high end like the Geforce 8800GTS and Geforce 8800GTX in terms of pricing? Graphic cards industry sure move too fast to follow.
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QUOTE(general_odin @ Jan 30 2008, 11:22 PM)
Hey guys...
GeForce 9600 game out already....

benchmark from some website stated that 2 GeForce 9600GT SLi can defeat GeForce 8800 Ultra

nice...
nVIDIA ROX !!!
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oh my lol doh.gif shuuuuu shuuuu laugh.gif
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QUOTE(general_odin @ Jan 30 2008, 10:22 PM)
Hey guys...
GeForce 9600 game out already....

benchmark from some website stated that 2 GeForce 9600GT SLi can defeat GeForce 8800 Ultra

nice...
nVIDIA ROX !!!
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You see they are trying desperate move doh.gif
rclxub.gif

They got what they deserve anyway, the truth always come out, NV ADA S#@$**@ Point, it is only for those who know nothing with big pocket.

Back to the topic please, no time for them. whistling.gif

Any Other shops in LYT have it???? icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Nocrimes @ Jan 31 2008, 09:53 AM)
You see they are trying desperate move doh.gif 
rclxub.gif

They got what they deserve anyway, the truth always come out, NV ADA  S#@$**@ Point, it is only for those who know nothing with big pocket.

Back to the topic please, no time for them. whistling.gif

Any Other shops in LYT have it???? icon_rolleyes.gif
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heard from senoir here that Loywat c-zone hav it,
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 31 2008, 09:14 AM)
Jeez it doesn't even matter. PCI-E 2.0 as of now only provides 1-3FPS performance difference from PCI-E 1.x.
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This is from what u read...good googling.. thumbup.gif

reality from those who tested it.

pcie 2.0 spec can overclock higher
and is independent from ure PCI/sata mhz...
been running them at 120mhz.. for a long time...

pcie sig 1.1 is not.. and will still be locked with sata/pci slots.

and its around 3-5 percent on same clocks but get higher clocks later on. slightly especially on mem.

fps increase is depending on 3 factors

Reso ure running
MB/GB ure GPU has
Bus/Mem speed on Bandwidth..

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 31 2008, 09:14 AM)
Jeez it doesn't even matter. PCI-E 2.0 as of now only provides 1-3FPS performance difference from PCI-E 1.x.
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a pcie2.0 card installed on a pcie1.1 and pcie 2.0 mobo, i think the different is definitely more than 1~3fps performance..
but a pcie1.1 card installed on a pcie1.1 mobo and pcie2.0 mobo, this can be 1~3fps increase when u install on a pcie2 mobo..
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a pcie2.0 card installed on a pcie1.1 and pcie 2.0 mobo, i think the different is definitely more than 1~3fps performance..
but a pcie1.1 card installed on a pcie1.1 mobo and pcie2.0 mobo, this can be 1~3fps increase when u install on a pcie2 mobo..
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dude the difference again is based on
the three things above..

hence

example
joker A.
with HD3850 256mb
on maximus or foxconn p35 mars..
gaming at 1440x900..
no diff..

joker B
with HD3870 512mb OCed Mems to 1250.
on same boards above
gaming at 1920x1200 ..
mainly on "FPS games" which uses a lot of MB's on ure gpu to load all that background and environment.

has up to 5 percent difference..

1-3fps??.. what game ..
3fps more in crysis means 10 percent jump..

so use percentage.

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ya..i think the fps drive me confuse.. the percentage will be much easier to understand..thx
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jan 31 2008, 11:57 AM)
This is from what u read...good googling.. thumbup.gif

reality from those who tested it.

pcie 2.0 spec can overclock higher
and is independent from ure PCI/sata  mhz...
been running them at 120mhz.. for a long time...

pcie sig 1.1 is not.. and will still be locked with sata/pci slots.

and its around 3-5 percent on same clocks but get higher clocks later on. slightly especially on mem.

fps increase is depending on 3 factors

Reso ure running
MB/GB ure GPU has
Bus/Mem speed on Bandwidth..
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Probably take a look at this: http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/23/cro...ress/page5.html

While Tomshardware charts are a little bit... skeptical, but the thing is what I'm trying to pin-point is that running on a X38 board/any board with PCI-E 2.0 doesn't really give much of a performance increase.

I think I would have to rephrase that 1-3FPS performance increase is somewhat wrong, something within the point of 1%-3% increament in performance in most games is more precise. As you set, this will depend on what game but I'm simply taking the average here.

True that later on graphic cards will take the full benifit of the double bandwidth on PCI-E 2.0, but right now, not yet. Not atleast enough to warrant a purchase for a X38 mobo or 780i if you aren't doing multi-GPU setups.
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nt many games support crossfire yet and the 2nd GPU will nt b used if the game does nt support crossfire/the drivers are nt up to date,check guru3d.com 3870x2 is nt compatible with world in conflict.ATI need 2 improve their drivers.88GT SLI beats the crap outa 3870x2 even in crysis.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 31 2008, 02:43 PM)
Probably take a look at this: http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/23/cro...ress/page5.html

While Tomshardware charts are a little bit... skeptical, but the thing is what I'm trying to pin-point is that running on a X38 board/any board with PCI-E 2.0 doesn't really give much of a performance increase.

I think I would have to rephrase that 1-3FPS performance increase is somewhat wrong, something within the point of 1%-3% increament in performance in most games is more precise. As you set, this will depend on what game but I'm simply taking the average here.

True that later on graphic cards will take the full benifit of the double bandwidth on PCI-E 2.0, but right now, not yet. Not atleast enough to warrant a purchase for a X38 mobo or 780i if you aren't doing multi-GPU setups.
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correcto mundo..

oh yeah and that review is inconclusive..
they should try higher bus on rams/ ddr3 higher speeds etc...
willing to be there is a difference.

as i had said 3 factors..


no single card solution takes up that bandwidth..
i am still figuring out ..
does the latency between the two GPU of the HD3870x2 makes up for the slower GDDR3 compared to HD3870 Crossfire ..

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ur rite,faster bus and faster ram needs to be used to fully optimise the dual gpu configuration,meaning the 3870x2 power nt full unleashed if use phenom platform with hypertransport3 .But they should just make 2 cores on the gpu instead of making 2 gpu on 1 card just what 3dfx did b4 with their voodoo 5 up to 4 GPU on 1 card crazy!!!!!!,resulting more heat and power consumption.The power consumption of 3870x2 almost same as 2900XT bro its super duper power hungry card and if u c in the benchmark at lower resolution 3870x2 going through cpu bottleneck,showing that the bus speed is nt enough.
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this card is a pcie 1.1 part. so far, only HIS misprinted the box cover with pcie 2.0.
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this card is a pcie 1.1 part. so far, only HIS misprinted the box cover with pcie 2.0.
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few day already still no llyn member buy this monster ???
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Feb 1 2008, 12:02 PM)
few day already still no llyn member buy this monster ???
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yeah..need to wait offical driver released and i am sure some of here will grab it.
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Feb 1 2008, 11:02 AM)
few day already still no llyn member buy this monster ???
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voltmod on 3870X2 ^^

http://news.mydrivers.com/1/99/99431.htm (chinese)
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izzit tri-GPU posibble??

CF =3870x2 + 3870...posibble??

any link review?
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QUOTE(xen0 @ Feb 5 2008, 01:03 AM)
izzit tri-GPU posibble??

CF =3870x2 + 3870...posibble??

any link review?
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Sapphire Water Cooled HD3870 X2 thumbup.gif

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Done by Shamino.
With 1.42v , gpu's does 3D @ 1ghz stock cooling.

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QUOTE(Ezonizs @ Feb 5 2008, 12:15 AM)
no idea quad official drivers also havent released  doh.gif

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QUOTE(xen0 @ Feb 5 2008, 12:03 AM)
izzit tri-GPU posibble??

CF =3870x2 + 3870...posibble??

any link review?
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tri-GPU should be possible coz crossfireX support 2,3 and 4 gpus...
but have to wait for the driver which will be launched during early March 2008...
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hi skyline.happy CNY  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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no idea quad official drivers also havent released  doh.gif

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Water refill needed?
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Or need to open the case after plug in..??
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Guys,

Need ur help with the X2. Recently I convert my self from Nvidia Fanboy to Ati lover. And finally after 1 year of hard working.. I am able to get myself a CNY present of Sapphire 3870 X2.

Now.. the requirement for this card is min. PSU which is 550W above. Mine one at the moment is only using Acbel 510W tru power.

I had XP and Vista all together installed on my Rig.

When I played Crysis in XP, it gives me black lines appeared on the rendering process.
But when I played Crysis in Vista it run smooth..

(Settings 1440x900 all medium no AA)

NFS Pro Street also giving another problem when running under XP it even worsen in the sense all of the sudden random blackout but the game still running.

in XP I run 3dMark .... came up with score of 11456 without AA and 10K+ with AA (this one without shutter or black lines problem).

After all of my long explanaitin, where does the problem lies? OS, PSU or immature Driver for XP?

Thanks a bunch in advance..
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i would say immature drivers of X2 (and perhaps bottleneck of cpu? tongue.gif )

there is alot of issue, when gaming, screen goes blackout..



and , from my experience...about gaming at Vista n XP

gaming does better abit on Vista (faster graphic load/processing, not sure about FPS,maybe lower )

but as for 3dmark, it does better on XP (more marks)

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It's more on immature driver than CPU bottleneck. The card is still new, as does the driver. The gaming experience should improved as newer driver been released.

For the time being, just make sure you can tolerate problems, and running single GPU mostly fixed some problems
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That's a relief... coz if not for the CNY holiday I would either buying higher wattage PSU or even trade in back this card with 8800 GT.....

So no choice... had to wait for better drivers

Err... how to set into single GPU?

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Feb 8 2008, 06:01 PM)
That's a relief... coz if not for the CNY holiday I would either buying higher wattage PSU or even trade in back this card with 8800 GT.....
that is the worst decision tongue.gif
joking, this card will perform better than 88gt , just wait for the drivers..
QUOTE(ajaibman @ Feb 8 2008, 06:01 PM)
So no choice... had to wait for better drivers

Err... how to set into single GPU?
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@@ Powercolor shrink the 3870 X2

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@@ Powercolor shrink the 3870 X2

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sos:
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i dislike tis hsf . look low end blush.gif

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Ok, after playing X2 around for 2 weeks.....

Here's the outcome...

Windows XP.

1. With my current RIG.. (see my sig).. I managed to get 11K from 3DMark2006 with 1280x1204 no AA - using Sapphire CD installation Driver.
2. Went to ATI AMD gaming site to download the latest Driver (Catalyst 8.1)... guess what.. ..... Only managed to get 9k+ with the same setting.
3. Playing Crysis ver. 1.1 Got random black lines appeared during rendering stages
4. Playing NFS Carbon. Random shutter (blank screen) every now and then
5. Playing COD 4 ver. 1.4, No problem what so ever.. (same result with my previous 8800 GTS G90 320 mb)

Windows Vista.

1. Haven't install 3DMark yet.
2. Playing Crysis only got into acceptable playable FPS of 30+ with the setting all high 1280x1024 no AA
3. Playing COD4, nothing excell from the DX9 version of XP but see the lighting brighter and smokes are more like a real smoke should behaving
4. Playing HellGate London : much better experience compare to DX9 version.
5. Upgrading to the latest Catalyst 8.2 (clean Install), not much different when playing Crysis. Other games have not tried yet.

Overclocking (ATI Overdrive). + This cost me another 600 RM due upgrading my PSU to Acbel M8 750W just to get the 8 pin PCie socket (anyone want to buy my 2nd hand PSU Acbel iNtelligent 510W?) biggrin.gif

1. Under XP with Catalyst 8.142 Managed to get the stable overclock of CPU core 855mhz and Memory of 945Mhz.
2. Again under XP to be suprised.. it doesn't much help on 3dMark since the result is the same with the stock frequency.
3. Under Vista, Same oc'ed speed playing Crysis.. not much different feel.. still the same wif stock. Dunno if using FPS counter software could be differnet.


Conclusion.

Seems that this X2 is more Vista friendly compare to XP. whistling.gif
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conclusion~immature drivers laugh.gif
your Proc is bottlenecking wink.gif your card can achieve over 16k ++ in 3Dmark 06
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Yesterday i just go LYP ...PC Zone C Zone and Cycom haven't sold 3870x2 yet.....u guys get from online orders?
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Feb 15 2008, 06:44 PM)
Ok, after playing X2 around for 2 weeks.....

Here's the outcome...

Windows XP.

1. With my current RIG.. (see my sig).. I managed to get 11K from 3DMark2006 with 1280x1204 no AA - using Sapphire CD installation Driver.
2. Went to ATI AMD gaming site to download the latest Driver (Catalyst 8.1)... guess what.. ..... Only managed to get 9k+ with the same setting.
3. Playing Crysis ver. 1.1 Got random black lines appeared during rendering stages
4. Playing NFS Carbon. Random shutter (blank screen) every now and then
5. Playing COD 4 ver. 1.4, No problem what so ever.. (same result with my previous 8800 GTS G90 320 mb)

Windows Vista.

1. Haven't install 3DMark yet.
2. Playing Crysis only got into acceptable playable FPS of 30+ with the setting  all high 1280x1024 no AA
3. Playing COD4, nothing excell from the DX9 version of XP but see the lighting brighter and smokes are more like a real smoke should behaving
4. Playing HellGate London : much better experience compare to DX9 version.
5. Upgrading to the latest Catalyst 8.2 (clean Install), not much different when playing Crysis. Other games have not tried yet.

Overclocking (ATI Overdrive). + This cost me another 600 RM due upgrading my PSU to Acbel M8 750W just to get the 8 pin PCie socket (anyone want to buy my 2nd hand PSU Acbel iNtelligent 510W?) biggrin.gif

1. Under XP with Catalyst 8.142 Managed to get the stable overclock of CPU core 855mhz and Memory of 945Mhz.
2. Again under XP to be suprised.. it doesn't much help on 3dMark since the result is the same with the stock frequency.
3. Under Vista, Same oc'ed speed playing Crysis.. not much different feel.. still the same wif stock. Dunno if using FPS counter software could be differnet.
Conclusion.

Seems that this X2 is more Vista friendly compare to XP.  whistling.gif
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same case when hd3870 came out.. had to wait for a month or two

QUOTE(RegentCid @ Feb 15 2008, 08:58 PM)
Yesterday i just go LYP ...PC Zone C Zone and Cycom haven't sold 3870x2 yet.....u guys get from online orders?
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sold in in the first few days
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Yesterday i just go LYP ...PC Zone C Zone and Cycom haven't sold 3870x2 yet.....u guys get from online orders?
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I bought it from Atom Computer LYP. Taiko is a member of mine. Only 1 unit he got in stock. But last week I saw new shipment of BFG XFS 8800GTS AlphaDog edition.. yummy... drool.gif
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Feb 15 2008, 10:47 PM)
I bought it from Atom Computer LYP. Taiko is a member of mine. Only 1 unit he got in stock. But last week I saw new shipment of BFG XFS 8800GTS AlphaDog edition.. yummy... drool.gif
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Atom no offence to me conman..

last time bought lcd.. they took out the dvi cable.. i went back up.. they buat dunno and say no refund
second time evga 8800gts 640mb.. got a 3dmark06 cd when the package wrote there is. missing..didnt even bother going back..
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QUOTE(Ezonizs @ Feb 15 2008, 08:38 PM)
conclusion~immature drivers  laugh.gif
your Proc is bottlenecking  wink.gif  your card can achieve over 16k ++ in 3Dmark 06
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Geez... if my proc is the cause... then .....how le? Convert to Intel? or Phenom?......geez my CNY Bonus budget running thin aledy... cry.gif cry.gif

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 15 2008, 10:50 PM)
Atom no offence to me conman..

last time bought lcd.. they took out the dvi cable.. i went back up.. they buat dunno and say no refund
second time evga 8800gts 640mb.. got a 3dmark06 cd when the package wrote there is. missing..didnt even bother going back..
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Sorry to hear that man, no doubt its true what you saying, because I saw it with my own eyes that they thrown used AMD sempron (seen thermal paste in the proc) for their budget packet PC. (well guess that to cover their 500 RM++ price tag for entire PC).

But I know the taiko since 2005 and bought things from him since (only him not the other kuncu2) also everytime I checked all stuff I bought in front of his eyes.

Not mean to defend Atom but just give the fair share of what I encountered as customer.

Now.. lets get back on the track abt X2...

Supposed I changed the CPU into higher spec let say AMD X2 6400 AM2 (or C2D Intel) for example would it able to improve rendering process alot or only marginally?


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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Feb 15 2008, 09:58 PM)
Yesterday i just go LYP ...PC Zone C Zone and Cycom haven't sold 3870x2 yet.....u guys get from online orders?
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Thundermtach is selling Sapphire HD3870 X2 for Rm1550 laugh.gif

ajaibman
Sry ~ ican't help you here ~~ since i havent tried a single AMD Proc before sad.gif maybe a Phenom 2.6Ghz wil help
If you change to Intel then you have to change your Mobo too wink.gif

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Supposed I changed the CPU into higher spec let say AMD X2 6400 AM2 (or C2D Intel) for example would it able to improve rendering process alot or only marginally?
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QUOTE(Ezonizs @ Feb 16 2008, 10:43 AM)
Thundermtach is selling Sapphire HD3870 X2 for Rm1550  laugh.gif

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Sry ~ ican't help you here ~~ since i havent tried a single AMD Proc before  sad.gif  maybe a Phenom 2.6Ghz wil help
If you change to Intel then you have to change your Mobo too  wink.gif
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Ur right.... hmm.gif let say if I just upgrade to Phenom... with the almost similar price tag, I will be getting lower peformance. But if i Changed to Intel e.g. C2D Quad 6600 I had to cough another hengget for MoBo...

So we talkin abt 1.2 K here? for Intel Conversion. While Phenom just a chip upgrade will cost around less than 1K ,

IF I decided to go for Intel path. what Mobo and proc that u think the best bang out of the buck? (e.g. slowest quad core or the fastest dual core?)

Please advice since I am blind when comes to Intel proc.. icon_question.gif icon_rolleyes.gif notworthy.gif



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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Feb 16 2008, 11:49 AM)
A LOT LA OF COURSE laugh.gif rclxms.gif get E8400 while phenom is just a bunch of bullshit
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Ok Today I am scouting around for Phenom in LYP.. and guess what? NO stock.. damn.. So no choice have to follow the Intel way.
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Feb 18 2008, 03:15 PM)
the whole malaysia no stock FARK doh.gif shakehead.gif
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Thats ok, I bought a Gigabyte P35 DS3L aleady. So .... now waiting for the right candidate for my Proc. Either E8400 or Q6600. biggrin.gif

Price wise, not much diff As i can get the Q6600 around 900 and E8400 around 700++ RM Which one do you guys think more better for today's Apps and Games?

PS : I have found a suitable buyer for my AMD Proc and Mobo rclxms.gif
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more & more games and applications are optimized to use 4 cores within a year or more wink.gif
games = dual core
applications = quad core

if you wan to have high frame rates in games now or maybe until 2009 go for E8400 and OC till 4Ghz above~~
reviews already proved that quad cores still loses to dual core in terms of gaming.

if you wan to edit photos, videos, folding etc etc base applications then you should go for quad cores because these applications now are utilizing all 4 cores laugh.gif

anyway the choice is in your own hand nod.gif
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Feb 18 2008, 09:15 PM)
Thats ok, I bought a Gigabyte P35 DS3L aleady. So .... now waiting for the right candidate for my Proc. Either E8400 or Q6600. biggrin.gif

Price wise,  not much diff As i can get the Q6600 around 900 and E8400 around 700++ RM Which one do you guys think more better for today's Apps and Games?
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i say E8400 is more worth it than Q6600. u can OC 4ghz easily with E8400. thats 4 100% gaming. if u do a lot of adobe editing n other applications, then quad 6600 is 4 u.

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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Feb 19 2008, 11:11 AM)
i say E8400 is more worth it than Q6600. u can OC 4ghz easily with E8400. thats 4 100% gaming. if u do a lot of adobe editing n other applications, then quad 6600 is 4 u.
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I juz know that E8400 (dual core) is better than Q6600 (quad core) in gaming.
What cpu cooler u use to 100% overclock the E8400.
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QUOTE(kerollowyat @ Feb 19 2008, 01:32 PM)
I juz know that E8400 (dual core) is better than Q6600 (quad core) in gaming.
What cpu cooler u use to 100% overclock the E8400.
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E8400(3ghz at default) 100% overclock is 6ghz. doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(kerollowyat @ Feb 19 2008, 01:32 PM)
I juz know that E8400 (dual core) is better than Q6600 (quad core) in gaming.
What cpu cooler u use to 100% overclock the E8400.
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never knew it would reach 6 GHz ......with an air cooler summore??????????? sweat.gif
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Ok folks... I got my hands on my E8400 at 735 RM LYP, this thing is smoking hot..... lot of shop run out of stock, and don't want to sell except in Package.

Can't wait to pair it with my Xigmatek.. Any tips on how to apply Thermal Paste for Intel?
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adui... he was trying to say the term "100%" is way impossible ler... sweat.gif
in the penryn OC thread ppl no reached 4.5 ghz stable so far... but there's one OC team in LYN reaching 5ghz... brows.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Feb 19 2008, 06:40 PM)
adui... he was trying to say the term "100%" is way impossible ler... sweat.gif
in the penryn OC thread ppl no reached 4.5 ghz stable so far... but there's one OC team in LYN reaching 5ghz... brows.gif
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now thats hot....did they use dry ice like KOC?????
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now thats hot....did they use dry ice like KOC?????
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liquid nitrogen 2 b precise brows.gif brows.gif
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liquid nitrogen 2 b precise brows.gif brows.gif
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Liquid Nitro can be colder than Dry Ice ... u be suprise it would go up to 50 to 100 degrees below 0.
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some result with 3870x2 under ln2 last weekend with T_M from Team.AU smile.gif
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Ok

here's my 3dmark06 using e8400 running 4.14ghz

The driver is normal Cat 8.2 and the 3870X2 is not overclocked( stock speed).

-all using Air cooling.

result.

user posted image

For daily usage

user posted image
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there you go rclxms.gif 16k in 3Dmarks 06
lol there is tons of Shortcuts on your screen lol laugh.gif
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you guys are always so extreme  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Feb 21 2008, 11:48 AM)
Ok

here's my 3dmark06 using e8400 running 4.14ghz

The driver is normal Cat 8.2 and the 3870X2 is not overclocked( stock speed).

-all using Air cooling.

result.

user posted image

For daily usage

user posted image
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that score of ures pretty low
missing around 1k

priming on one core??

cpuz 1.4??

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At the moment trying push to 4.40 Ghz.... so far no luck. Eventhough already put the vcore up to 1.5V

Able to boot into windows but failed run prima95 or orhtos with both core.

Any suggestion? Still same temp load is around 65C and idle 42C
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Feb 21 2008, 04:02 PM)
At the moment trying push to 4.40 Ghz.... so far no luck. Eventhough already put the vcore up to 1.5V

Able to boot into windows but failed run prima95 or orhtos with both core.

Any suggestion? Still same temp load is around 65C and idle 42C
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if i was u i would wonder y ppl at 4ghz at gpu stock can get 17500+
before u attempt 4.4
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 21 2008, 04:34 PM)
if i was u i would wonder y ppl at 4ghz at gpu stock can get 17500+
before u attempt 4.4
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I would have no idea,

Can be a lot of factors.

1. Proc problem not a good batch
2. El cheapo GPU not the uber XFS or Zotac but mere Sapphire. =not a good build
3. Cap ayam RAM, Corsair XMS2 is not as good as DHX or some progressive timing memory with CL less than 4.
4. Using a cheap heatsink..... not using Uber watercooling.. or even a Nitrogen = temp problem
5. No aircond at room that gives a near boiling point ambient temp.
6. Using a P35 Chipset not the Uber X38.

Well thats what I can think of, no other.. but I am satisfied since this is a huge leap forward from my previous AMD rig.

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some cards are nuts
i can say this card is about the same as my 3870 crossfire performance
so far tested on Crysis,CD4 and GOW.. no crashes and everything smooth

3dmark06 untweak and running on 24/7 background programs.
oh yeah avg crashed after i installed and then later had to uninstall the asus smartdr and gamer osd. its not working

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3870x2 CrossfireX using COD4
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QUOTE(cyberfly @ Feb 21 2008, 07:11 PM)
3870x2 CrossfireX using COD4
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getting ready to buy one more kekeke..

one thing once u touch the HD3000 series.. nvidia G9x just not the same..
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 21 2008, 08:21 PM)
getting ready to buy one more kekeke..

one thing once u touch the HD3000 series.. nvidia G9x just not the same..
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is it worth upgrading my 8800GTS G92 to HD3870 X2 ?
wats the performance wise ? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Ezonizs @ Feb 21 2008, 08:36 PM)
bro need your opinion~
is it worth upgrading my 8800GTS G92 to HD3870 X2 ?
wats the performance wise ?  laugh.gif
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when i went to 8800gtx.. awesome

when i used 8800 ultra even more awesome

then sold them off with the anticipation of the 8800gt price/performance ratio freaking gila..

straight sold off all the g80 gts i had.. and made second rig slied with 8800gt

then since i was on maximus and was fedup with all the 680 except for the asus p5n32esli..
tried HD3870 crossfire.. awesome..

then temporarily went back to 8800gts G92 was in a trying mood... . biggest mistake..
hence what happened to me when i had that card, the very next day just packed it back and 3rd day posted sales thread

gaming ure card is good
but other things just pissed me off
dual screen support goes nuts especially when u want to play video on the second monitor
dont even talk about hdtv.. if u enable hdtv on ure second monitor say like mine 24 inch dualie.. so second i made it hdtv.. u can see framerate freaking slow when u play high def movies..
tested with naruto 1920x1200 encoding movie 2.. lousy...and some hd movie downloads

but gaming was good.. but price wise waste of money for a mediocre gain compared to 8800gt.only pros is he cooling

so base on this is what i can tell u.. everybody's expectation for buying a graphic card is different.. and what they expect from it is different.
this is the best i can tell u.

i cannot argue on 8800gt price/ performance .. its just that a good card
for hd3870 .. the price/performance/feature .. is something legendary

so depends where ure expectation meets..
for me daily 2-3 hours surfing while watching movie gaming 2 hours..
i need something that can do both exceptionally well.
the 8800gts G92 didnt fit to my criteria.

so thats y u see sometimes ppl selling off 8800gt to move to hd3870 and vice versa.. its whether they got what they were looking for

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well thx for your explanation laugh.gif
think i should stick back with GTS G92 coz im a single treaded person laugh.gif game means game , movie means movie ~ 1 program running at a time haha tongue.gif

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awesome card
this is what it just did flawlessly

with this spec
E8400@4.25ghz
1000mhz CL5 2.05v
HD3870 Stock

Second Monitor 1920x1200 watching Sarah Connor Chronicles Episode 6 full scren
Main Monitor Windows XP with Crysis at windowed 1280x1024 resolution .. with msn at High Setting

Awesome..
the GTS couldnt handle this..
benefit of dual gpu
try it goldfries.

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you really a multitasker lol do so many things at one time sweat.gif
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Anyone installed 3rd party cooler with this monster yet?
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QUOTE(Ezonizs @ Feb 21 2008, 08:36 PM)
bro need your opinion~
is it worth upgrading my 8800GTS G92 to HD3870 X2 ?
wats the performance wise ?  laugh.gif
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better wait 4 the 9800GX2 n 4870 X2 if possible laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Feb 22 2008, 10:29 AM)
better wait 4 the 9800GX2 n 4870 X2 if possible laugh.gif  rclxms.gif
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better yet 10000GTX extreme

waiting means something better will always come.. buy whatever u can now and later also..
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Feb 21 2008, 04:02 PM)
At the moment trying push to 4.40 Ghz.... so far no luck. Eventhough already put the vcore up to 1.5V

Able to boot into windows but failed run prima95 or orhtos with both core.

Any suggestion? Still same temp load is around 65C and idle 42C
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Try increasing NB,CPU VTT,FSB termination voltage and see how.Should be able to stablelize quite well.
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