Guys,

Need ur help with the X2. Recently I convert my self from Nvidia Fanboy to Ati lover. And finally after 1 year of hard working.. I am able to get myself a CNY present of Sapphire 3870 X2.

Now.. the requirement for this card is min. PSU which is 550W above. Mine one at the moment is only using Acbel 510W tru power.

I had XP and Vista all together installed on my Rig.

When I played Crysis in XP, it gives me black lines appeared on the rendering process.
But when I played Crysis in Vista it run smooth..

(Settings 1440x900 all medium no AA)

NFS Pro Street also giving another problem when running under XP it even worsen in the sense all of the sudden random blackout but the game still running.

in XP I run 3dMark .... came up with score of 11456 without AA and 10K+ with AA (this one without shutter or black lines problem).

After all of my long explanaitin, where does the problem lies? OS, PSU or immature Driver for XP?

Thanks a bunch in advance..

That's a relief... coz if not for the CNY holiday I would either buying higher wattage PSU or even trade in back this card with 8800 GT.....

So no choice... had to wait for better drivers

Err... how to set into single GPU?

This post has been edited by ajaibman: Feb 8 2008, 06:03 PM

Ok, after playing X2 around for 2 weeks.....

Here's the outcome...

Windows XP.

1. With my current RIG.. (see my sig).. I managed to get 11K from 3DMark2006 with 1280x1204 no AA - using Sapphire CD installation Driver.
2. Went to ATI AMD gaming site to download the latest Driver (Catalyst 8.1)... guess what.. ..... Only managed to get 9k+ with the same setting.
3. Playing Crysis ver. 1.1 Got random black lines appeared during rendering stages
4. Playing NFS Carbon. Random shutter (blank screen) every now and then
5. Playing COD 4 ver. 1.4, No problem what so ever.. (same result with my previous 8800 GTS G90 320 mb)

Windows Vista.

1. Haven't install 3DMark yet.
2. Playing Crysis only got into acceptable playable FPS of 30+ with the setting all high 1280x1024 no AA
3. Playing COD4, nothing excell from the DX9 version of XP but see the lighting brighter and smokes are more like a real smoke should behaving
4. Playing HellGate London : much better experience compare to DX9 version.
5. Upgrading to the latest Catalyst 8.2 (clean Install), not much different when playing Crysis. Other games have not tried yet.

Overclocking (ATI Overdrive). + This cost me another 600 RM due upgrading my PSU to Acbel M8 750W just to get the 8 pin PCie socket (anyone want to buy my 2nd hand PSU Acbel iNtelligent 510W?)

1. Under XP with Catalyst 8.142 Managed to get the stable overclock of CPU core 855mhz and Memory of 945Mhz.
2. Again under XP to be suprised.. it doesn't much help on 3dMark since the result is the same with the stock frequency.
3. Under Vista, Same oc'ed speed playing Crysis.. not much different feel.. still the same wif stock. Dunno if using FPS counter software could be differnet.


Conclusion.

Seems that this X2 is more Vista friendly compare to XP.

I bought it from Atom Computer LYP. Taiko is a member of mine. Only 1 unit he got in stock. But last week I saw new shipment of BFG XFS 8800GTS AlphaDog edition.. yummy...

Geez... if my proc is the cause... then .....how le? Convert to Intel? or Phenom?......geez my CNY Bonus budget running thin aledy...

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Added on February 15, 2008, 11:09 pmSorry to hear that man, no doubt its true what you saying, because I saw it with my own eyes that they thrown used AMD sempron (seen thermal paste in the proc) for their budget packet PC. (well guess that to cover their 500 RM++ price tag for entire PC).

But I know the taiko since 2005 and bought things from him since (only him not the other kuncu2) also everytime I checked all stuff I bought in front of his eyes.

Not mean to defend Atom but just give the fair share of what I encountered as customer.

Now.. lets get back on the track abt X2...

Supposed I changed the CPU into higher spec let say AMD X2 6400 AM2 (or C2D Intel) for example would it able to improve rendering process alot or only marginally?


This post has been edited by ajaibman: Feb 15 2008, 11:09 PM

Ur right.... let say if I just upgrade to Phenom... with the almost similar price tag, I will be getting lower peformance. But if i Changed to Intel e.g. C2D Quad 6600 I had to cough another hengget for MoBo...

So we talkin abt 1.2 K here? for Intel Conversion. While Phenom just a chip upgrade will cost around less than 1K ,

IF I decided to go for Intel path. what Mobo and proc that u think the best bang out of the buck? (e.g. slowest quad core or the fastest dual core?)

Please advice since I am blind when comes to Intel proc..

Ok Today I am scouting around for Phenom in LYP.. and guess what? NO stock.. damn.. So no choice have to follow the Intel way.

Thats ok, I bought a Gigabyte P35 DS3L aleady. So .... now waiting for the right candidate for my Proc. Either E8400 or Q6600.

Price wise, not much diff As i can get the Q6600 around 900 and E8400 around 700++ RM Which one do you guys think more better for today's Apps and Games?

PS : I have found a suitable buyer for my AMD Proc and Mobo

Ok folks... I got my hands on my E8400 at 735 RM LYP, this thing is smoking hot..... lot of shop run out of stock, and don't want to sell except in Package.

Can't wait to pair it with my Xigmatek.. Any tips on how to apply Thermal Paste for Intel?

Liquid Nitro can be colder than Dry Ice ... u be suprise it would go up to 50 to 100 degrees below 0.

Ok

here's my 3dmark06 using e8400 running 4.14ghz

The driver is normal Cat 8.2 and the 3870X2 is not overclocked( stock speed).

-all using Air cooling.

result.



For daily usage

At the moment trying push to 4.40 Ghz.... so far no luck. Eventhough already put the vcore up to 1.5V

Able to boot into windows but failed run prima95 or orhtos with both core.

Any suggestion? Still same temp load is around 65C and idle 42C

I would have no idea,

Can be a lot of factors.

1. Proc problem not a good batch
2. El cheapo GPU not the uber XFS or Zotac but mere Sapphire. =not a good build
3. Cap ayam RAM, Corsair XMS2 is not as good as DHX or some progressive timing memory with CL less than 4.
4. Using a cheap heatsink..... not using Uber watercooling.. or even a Nitrogen = temp problem
5. No aircond at room that gives a near boiling point ambient temp.
6. Using a P35 Chipset not the Uber X38.

Well thats what I can think of, no other.. but I am satisfied since this is a huge leap forward from my previous AMD rig.



This post has been edited by ajaibman: Feb 21 2008, 05:15 PM