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carlosandy
post Dec 18 2007, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(nobuta @ Dec 17 2007, 11:45 PM)
anyone taking P1 with low chin ann b4 this ? how's it ?

any comment on Philip Woo's teaching style? will u feel bored in his class? im scared of having long hours class.
Sheila vs Philip , who would u recommend? 
there's so much difference between fees of ksa n mcO . 1110 vs 780 .

About P2 , Keith Farmer or Joe Fang ?
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I attend P1 with Philip Woo and old 2.6 with Sheila. If u ask me, I will recommend Philip Woo. His teaching style will be more on story to make student understand and interesting in the CG. And don't worry, Philip Woo class won't be boring, he will tell u a lot of commercial funny funny story.

Sheila where I attend her 2.6 class few sitting ago. I'm not say she was not good, but sometime she is too fast until I can't catch up what she try to teach us. And also her notes too detail (size=1 BPP manual) until I can't finish reading. Some of the thing not relavant to 2.6, but she include it in the notes also. Even can finish read her notes, I also feel very blur oredi cos too much thing to read.

So depend on the people, some people like Sheila style but some like Philip Woo style. What I can said was Sheila style will come out some method to help student memorise the Key Word, but Philip Woo will make student understand first and follow by memorise Key Word.

Talk about fees, I always said Mc Orange tuition fees can't acceptable in KL area.

For P2, I'm not sure whether Keith Farmer or Joe Fang is better. But according to some people, they said Keith Farmer exam technique and notes was very good. So I think I'll go for Keith Farmer also lah!

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Dec 17 2007, 10:32 PM)
So riskly to attend his P6 class ah! Means that even normal class, he also didn't teach the whole syllabus?

Then, study tis paper for what? Just go for exam? Paid more fees, but didn't cover whole syllabus. Mc Orange betul-betul MAKAN ORANG oh! mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif
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Yup..he don't manage to cover all but his explanation is very clear and detail...he'll go through the articles written by the examiner paragraph by paragraph and the examples given in the articles....n is better don't skip any classes coz he'll asked u to amend his notes according to the budget and public ruling that had been amended...basically i'll say his normal classes were okie just that u'll have to wait for him patiently... so maybe irc should take ckf class...coz ccyen don't have time to cover so many topics as he'll explain in very detail for those topics that he spotted
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post Dec 18 2007, 01:20 AM

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Guyz, i'd like to ask, is there any significance benefit for us to take AAA P7 than other subject such as AFM,APM?

I've make my choice of taking tax, now left the other subject... So i have to weight the cost and benefits...
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post Dec 18 2007, 04:06 AM

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well since many ppl complain bout mcorange fees...any1 from here hv reasons y da fees r so high especially those who studied tehre b4 ??? it's bout rm300 more expensive
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post Dec 18 2007, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(beeyen @ Dec 18 2007, 01:08 AM)
Yup..he don't manage to cover all but his explanation is very clear and detail...he'll go through the articles written by the examiner paragraph by paragraph and the examples given in the articles....n is better don't skip any classes coz he'll asked u to amend his notes according to the budget and public ruling that had been amended...basically i'll say his normal classes were okie just that u'll have to wait for him patiently... so maybe irc should take ckf class...coz ccyen don't have time to cover so many topics as he'll explain in very detail for those topics that he spotted
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Actually the purpose to take 3.2/P6 not just for exam, but also is a time to get something more adding value, for eg. Tax Planning. This paper is very good and very challenging.

But looking what u try to tell me was Chow Chee Yan only focus on important topic for exam. Means that he is not like Kwai Fatt where beside cover whole syllabus and focus on exam, Kwai Fatt also show us a lot of technique where he done in the actual practice.

Ha Ha Ha, lucky I already pass 3.2, cos now Kwai Fatt won't run this paper for normal class every sitting.


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QUOTE(formulaoag @ Dec 18 2007, 04:06 AM)
well since many ppl complain bout mcorange fees...any1 from here hv reasons y da fees r so high especially those who studied tehre b4 ??? it's bout rm300 more expensive
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I only take Sheila 2.6 in Mc Orange b4 and that time their fees still can acceptable, cos Normal class + IRC only RM700+ to RM800+. I can't comment why their fees so high. May be they thing their lecturer quality is good, so charge so high fees is fair for student.

One more thing I don't like was Mc Orange was a first college in KL where compulsory want the student sign up their Revision Class for every paper in full term course. Due to this, Kasturi now also follow like that and make us paid more fees.

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QUOTE(formulaoag @ Dec 17 2007, 11:19 PM)
dat means there is different salary for degree holder and acca holder???   unsure.gif  can any1 tell da differences?


Added on December 17, 2007, 11:20 pmany1 hv details bout CKF timetable and da fees?
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in my firm,there is slight diff of salary between degree and acca graduate...

CKF is not lecturing this sitting,so i think there is no fee and timetable lo..


QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Dec 18 2007, 01:20 AM)
Guyz, i'd like to ask, is there any significance benefit for us to take AAA P7 than other subject such as AFM,APM?

I've make my choice of taking tax, now left the other subject... So i have to weight the cost and benefits...
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actually in msia..no significance nebefit if u take AAA...

QUOTE(formulaoag @ Dec 18 2007, 04:06 AM)
well since many ppl complain bout mcorange fees...any1 from here hv reasons y da fees r so high especially those who studied tehre b4 ??? it's bout rm300 more expensive
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i think they think they have good and famous lecturer,so can raise the price lo...


Added on December 18, 2007, 10:21 am[quote=carlosandy,Dec 18 2007, 09:32 AM]
Actually the purpose to take 3.2/P6 not just for exam, but also is a time to get something more adding value, for eg. Tax Planning. This paper is very good and very challenging.

But looking what u try to tell me was Chow Chee Yan only focus on important topic for exam. Means that he is not like Kwai Fatt where beside cover whole syllabus and focus on exam, Kwai Fatt also show us a lot of technique where he done in the actual practice.

Ha Ha Ha, lucky I already pass 3.2, cos now Kwai Fatt won't run this paper for normal class every sitting.

he stop this sitting only la...not mean every sitting la..last sitting also got ma... laugh.gif

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post Dec 18 2007, 10:58 AM

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I'm taking P2, P4 and P7 next semester at sunway. No doubt there's other better lecturers out there (alto I still like menon).


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QUOTE(andy888 @ Dec 17 2007, 06:35 PM)
wah. u taking 5 papers ?? sweat.gif  sweat.gif

for p2, last time i got see his notes, quite excellent. thumbup.gif
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U mean Keith farmer notes? I might go for Joe Fang...coz my "loan provider" prefer Joe Fang. Then actually i plan to take 5 paper for class.. then maybe go class first then exam later...but advices given.. better complete P1 at last, therefore..i will take

P2-Joe Fang
P3- Parmindar
P4- Daniel Ho (i cant get timetable, ftms still not email me the fees,timetable, anyone hv? pls upload here, tq)
P6- Alan Yeo

Therefore, anyone hv same class v me? See u all next year~~ ^-^
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QUOTE(Zoeee @ Dec 18 2007, 11:35 AM)
U mean Keith farmer notes? I might go for Joe Fang...coz my "loan provider" prefer Joe Fang. Then actually i plan to take 5 paper for class.. then maybe go class first then exam later...but advices given.. better complete P1 at last, therefore..i will take

P2-Joe Fang
P3- Parmindar
P4- Daniel Ho (i cant get timetable, ftms still not email me the fees,timetable, anyone hv? pls upload here, tq)
P6- Alan Yeo

Therefore, anyone hv same class v me? See u all next year~~ ^-^
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u cannot take p1 at last and complete option 1st unless u take at same sitting after u pass ur p2 and p3 ma..

and it is not advisable to attend class then sit exam later

coz sometime lecturer focus will be more to that sitting...
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QUOTE(coolly @ Dec 18 2007, 11:58 AM)
u cannot take p1 at last and complete option 1st unless u take at same sitting after u pass ur p2 and p3 ma..

and it is not advisable to attend class then sit exam later

coz sometime lecturer focus will be more to that sitting...
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oo....how bout if June 08 sitting, i take p2,3,4,6 lik tis can?? coz.....i tot...now can jump right? or hv to complete all core paper then only can do option??

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QUOTE(Zoeee @ Dec 18 2007, 01:17 PM)
oo....how bout if June 08 sitting, i take p2,3,4,6 lik tis can?? coz.....i tot...now can jump right? or hv to complete all core paper then only can do option??
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Ya, but only for same module paper u can jump. For eg, P1 - P3, you can take any order for tis 3 paper. If u want to take options, then u need to take also together with P1, P2 & P3.

Dec 07 is a transition period, that's why some people can take option b4 core!
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oo..its mean, for june 08 i can only take P1,2,3 and then choose either 1, P4 or P6...??

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post Dec 18 2007, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Zoeee @ Dec 18 2007, 01:30 PM)
oo..its mean, for june 08 i can only take P1,2,3 and then choose either 1, P4 or P6...??
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Yes.

And one more thing I need to remind u. Don't think option paper is easy than core paper. B'cos under new syllabus, the easier old paper 3.4 oredi joint with P3 and 3.7 also move to option. So, option paper no longer easier than core paper.

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Dec 18 2007, 01:45 PM)
Yes.

And one more thing I need to remind u. Don't think option paper is easy than core paper. B'cos under new syllabus, the easier old paper 3.4 oredi joint with P3 and 3.7 also move to option. So, option paper no longer easier than core paper.
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ya,last time still got IT paper easier to pass..now it is all got standard liao..all also quite hard to pass liao..

so if cannot afford,don try to take 4 papers together esp u in part 3..


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QUOTE(coolly @ Dec 18 2007, 10:20 AM)
actually in msia..no significance nebefit if u take AAA...
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What do you mean? can give me more example? I understand that this is very important choice as there's no way back... icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(coolly @ Dec 18 2007, 02:54 PM)
ya,last time still got IT paper easier to pass..now it is all got standard liao..all also quite hard to pass liao..

so if cannot afford,don try to take 4 papers together esp u in part 3..
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colly , i think u already pass ACCA, why go P2-Keith Farmer class ?
revision ?? rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Dec 18 2007, 02:12 PM)
What do you mean? can give me more example? I understand that this is very important choice as there's no way back... icon_question.gif
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last time in UK,they need u to take 3.1 if u need to get ur practising certificate..

but this rule does not apply to malaysia..

so far i did not know any country that will particularly see ur optional and make different offer or what..

but in my opinion,u shd see what interest u have and proceed to further gain knowledge on that area lo..

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QUOTE(coolly @ Dec 18 2007, 01:54 PM)
ya,last time still got IT paper easier to pass..now it is all got standard liao..all also quite hard to pass liao..

so if cannot afford,don try to take 4 papers together esp u in part 3..
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Oic, smile.gif thx for the advice....emm.. coz desperate to finish acca quickly....after june 08, need to start work, so think while fulltime now,take more, later oni change to partime wen work...

so...now..mean i hv to take

p1-....undecided yet - philip woo? (easy understand...but on Sunday full day) parmindar? jackson?(i been both of them revision for 2.1 & F8, quite ok)
p2-joe fang (his former student) or keith farmer....( seem like lots ppl talking about him, coolly u oso go for it right?)
p3-parmindar


either 1:
p4- daniel ho
p6- alan yeo


Added on December 18, 2007, 2:43 pmEmm, previously, i heard that P1 is new syllabus n is like combination of other paper, so will be tough & tot of how about do it later ^-^

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post Dec 18 2007, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(coolly @ Dec 18 2007, 02:18 PM)
last time in UK,they need u to take 3.1 if u need to get ur practising certificate..

but this rule does not apply to malaysia..

so far i did not know any country that will particularly see ur optional and make different offer or what..

but in my opinion,u shd see what interest u have and proceed to  further gain knowledge on that area lo..
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The problem is this paper change format, change examiner and the most famous audit lecturer in KL ie Philip Woo and Sheila also stop teaching. I dun think got any other lecturer better than them to teach tis paper.


Added on December 18, 2007, 2:57 pm
QUOTE(Zoeee @ Dec 18 2007, 02:41 PM)
Oic,  smile.gif  thx for the advice....emm.. coz desperate to finish acca quickly....after june 08, need to start work, so think while fulltime now,take more, later oni change to partime wen work...

so...now..mean i hv to take

p1-....undecided yet - philip woo? (easy understand...but on Sunday full day) parmindar? jackson?(i been both of them revision for 2.1 & F8, quite ok)
p2-joe fang (his former student) or keith farmer....( seem like lots ppl talking about him, coolly u oso go for it right?)
p3-parmindar
either 1:
p4- daniel ho
p6- alan yeo


Added on December 18, 2007, 2:43 pmEmm, previously, i heard that P1 is new syllabus n is like combination of other paper, so will be tough & tot of how about do it later ^-^
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P1 - I strongly prefer Philip Woo. For Parmindar, I think ok ok but problem was he don't have audit background, I don't know what method he will use to teach internal control. But please don't go for Jackson Chan, cos my friend working in KSA, she told me some student complaint about Jackson Chan's teaching method for P1.

P2 - Is up to u. My friend say Joe Fang very good in consol also, but IFRS part ok ok only.

P3 - This paper actually is combination of old 3.4 and 3.5. IT/IS play very important in tis paper, b'cos the examiner for P3 was ex-2.1 examiner.

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QUOTE(Zoeee @ Dec 18 2007, 02:41 PM)
Oic,  smile.gif  thx for the advice....emm.. coz desperate to finish acca quickly....after june 08, need to start work, so think while fulltime now,take more, later oni change to partime wen work...

so...now..mean i hv to take

p1-....undecided yet - philip woo? (easy understand...but on Sunday full day) parmindar? jackson?(i been both of them revision for 2.1 & F8, quite ok)
p2-joe fang (his former student) or keith farmer....( seem like lots ppl talking about him, coolly u oso go for it right?)
p3-parmindar
either 1:
p4- daniel ho
p6- alan yeo


Added on December 18, 2007, 2:43 pmEmm, previously, i heard that P1 is new syllabus n is like combination of other paper, so will be tough & tot of how about do it later ^-^
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ya,last time i joined keith farmer der...

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