Nvidia is ready for its next-generation GPU launch. According to sources at graphics card makers, the company plans to launch its GeForce 9 series GPU after the Lunar New Year in February. The first chip to rollout of in GeForce 9 family will be the D9E, a high-end product that adopts 65nm manufacturing. The new product will also support DirectX 10.1 and Shader Model 4.1, revealed the sources. In addition to the D9E, Nvidia will roll out a mid-range GeForce 9 family product named D9P in June 2008. The new GPU will adopt 55nm processing, the sources pointed out.

Source: http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20071129PD216.html

This post has been edited by mai-k: Apr 8 2008, 02:29 PM

then 8800ultra will be crap
waiting the day to come lol

If thats true, the shit yeah! I want to play Crysis at it max! If this card can handle it lol.

3 month.. We should start saving our money from now to buy this card

Indeed a good news but this is the high-end version with high end price! And these is where the mid-range cards come in, scheduled on Jun 2008. At the end of the year mainstream version probably come out, and prices for high and mid range should be cheaper. Only then i would consider upgrade... The soon to be released G92 8800GTS should hold up well until then...

This post has been edited by retsnom: Dec 1 2007, 07:27 AM

best time upgrade during oct/nov, when those hot game are out.

playing waiting game huh? i doubt i could wait for that long, would grab either 8800gt ot gts soon or else i'm gonna miss lotta fun and my pc is just idling there collecting dust

tips on buying graphic cards : Always skip a generation

-if you bought a GF4, wait for GF6
-if you bought GF6, wait for GF8
-If you bought GF8, wait for GF10

then you'll really feel the difference, and save a ton of money

wow thta fast, i thought its only cmin out around september or october next year. hmm, probably ill pass on this card. cuz i just got 8800gt and now ill wait for 10 series.

hahaha. its about time 2 save all ang pow money 4 these babies.

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Added on December 1, 2007, 9:49 amgood idea actually. does that apply 2 processor upgrade as well? like q6600 upgrade 2 nehalem (if only got such processor after penryn)?

This post has been edited by skylinelover: Dec 1 2007, 09:50 AM

But I always buy a next gen card, how?

but then, there's no big name games around tat time next year
currently waiting for sins of a solar empire, tat's should be the closest big name games scheduled to be released in feb

can't deny that sometimes it kinda of hard to resist

why WAIT / BUY when you can BUY / SELL ?

haha, im still using geforcefx series, guess if i upgrade anytime also got big difference heheheh.

keep waiting and i'm sure u won't change in your life time =_="

i think untill mati also cannot afford those new highend gc...
but maybe a good news for me, since the price of current higend gc might drop a lot...

i can see you are a low end gamer eh but then new card means new system setup wey

I actually planing to jump from 6 to 9. lol

lol...nice jump.. think the score will be triple up eh? 6 series still can play new games but with low reso, low setting.

really a hard fight between nvidia & ati...

never ending war.......

if the ati can make it come true, the next gen r700 will come with multicore for vga, even midrange hv 2 graphic core... hope nvidia will do the same...

What war? It seems that it's been nvidia all the way this year - at least from looking at the steam hardware survey http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html

It's only a war if there is some fight.

From this, there's absolutely no reason for nvidia to release their next part out as early as February. The only reason nvidia would release a new part would be to spoil the launch of another amd/ati part.

Wah sei i change too many stuff now new one ! HAIZ headec liao ! and tooth pain !

Why not. They beat AMD by being way early. They beat 3dfx by being early. Waiting for your competitor to catch up or surprise you is not a good idea in this game.

There are no surprises here. Everyone has a roadmap to follow. If i recall just recently we all know that the 8800gt was launched to counter the HD 3850 and HD 3870. It's about market dominance. The more dominant nvidia are in this the less incentive they have to release new products, it's the same with any other monopolists.

edit: I also thought nvidia beat 3dfx by buying them out?

This post has been edited by Kidicarus: Dec 1 2007, 04:08 PM

Just start planning to buy 8800GT card, and hear this news. Aiks, what should i do ?

jus get it bro, It's not gonna end if U just wait and see what the technology produces, aihhhh, I am also getting confused... technology has been growing rapidly

if your current card still statisfy your need, then don't need to upgrade. but if you feel your card is already somewhat out of your test..then just grab 8800gt. always only buy when you need it. tech is changing fast

btw..good to have war between them..if not..we will suffer from overpriced hardware...

6 to 9...
haha
if 8 wait to 10 lar?
my tips for upgrading gc
u got the money go for it
why bother wait
plus if u use 8 change to 9
the 8 ppl still want it in garage sales
6/7 outdated edi
haha

if your current gc could cope your needs and u r happy with it then just keep it, if upgrade is needed indeed then no point for waiting, hard to always keep up the new thingy unless really loaded

Last time I jump 4 and 5 to 7. Hehe

They owned 3dfx before buying them out (oh the pun). There is no monopoly in the GPU market, plus nvidia have bigger problems to worry about than AMD in the long term, namely intel. It would not do them any good to pull their punches.

Seriously u cant always wait . Like what they said , the hardware is already outdated once you bought it , just waiting for it to be obsolete .

Yeah, i get what u meant, Moore's Law .

However, I do hope that by the time i get a new card, it will in the right timing which will be a long way before the price starts to depreciate.

the 3870 and 3850 launched to counter 8800gt actually...

so..this news is confirm? btw the new cards will be pci 2.0 rite? high end card 65nm and mid will be 55nm? isit 55nm more oc ability than 65nm?

You got it wrong.

8800GT was mid-nov originally, later than 3800s.

They made an "emergancy" launch and you could count it as one of the rather poor launches nV has made. Performance is there, but you get literally no stock at MSRP, DOA cards, and some people actually got the 3800s instead.

If they launched after, people would've waited, and there wouldn't be so many issues anyway.

total money i spend to my pc . can buy a kancil liao

What kind of multi core are you talking about?

If multiple GPU, that's not really a good thing, power consumption and cost will be through the roof. The idea of using multiple HD 3k GPU to try and get the performance crown just shows how bad ATi are doing, they are not capable of producing a single GPU that could beat GeForce 8800 Ultra.

If you mean multicore as in multiple GPU on a single die, I don't think it makes any sense at all since they are already massively parallel processor.

i mean, if you can cramp in 2 GPU cores, each with 128 SMP into a single die, why not make a core with 256 SMP instead.

mine total spend in last 4 years can buy one GTR R34 already

Yields and flexbility?

The way it's done currently is kinda retarded compared to what R700 is going for. They'd only need to tape out ONE chip, make that for ALL segments of the market, and class PRO/XT (50/70) by using clockspeeds on top of multiple core.


For one, the R700 "Mini-cores" are going to be dirt cheap to make compared to nVidia's G80 benmoth, or even ATI's RV670. 1 minicore would take about the same cost as a budget chip would. If we assume the worst and put pricing down to 4 "budget" cards (+markup etc), they'll still be loltons cheaper than a highend chip. Performance I can't talk, nobody can for now.

4 small cores should be much more versatile to cool than 1 huge core (cheaper cooling). With a fraction of SPs it's very unlikely they're gonna heat up that fast, too. Plus, when the card is idle, power management is much more easier than just clock throttling- just shut down cores. These cores should also be the stepping stone to Fusion.

BTW 2 RV670s as it goes should handily beat the 8800Ultra. Even the 8800GT is not far from the GTX at stock. Definitely not an elegant solution (the Ultra too) though.

I never believed in PR wars. Getting the ultimate fast card mostly means nothing except for fantards being happily scalpted for bragging rights. X1950XTX, 6800 Ultra etc. redux.

Aimed for imminent snatching...

This post has been edited by X.E.D: Dec 1 2007, 10:00 PM

I think I gonna get one once the ~RM1200 level GeForce 9 card comes out around Jun2008. A rule of thumb is always get cards that is slightly more than RM1000 at any time to get at least some decent gaming for 1 year. Just forget about those RM500-600 card.

I'm already started saving for this card . Gonna skip 8800GTX lar..

This post has been edited by zubai: Dec 1 2007, 11:57 PM

8800 gt 800 wor

start saving. Only bought one the card is value in term money/performance

Like 8800GT. Value but not too cheap but great in performance (on par or above GTS and GTX)

I'm gonna start saving ! Graphic Cards yearly keluar. Money all go to drain. LoL. Should settle on 8800GT first la. Or maybe 8800GTS..lol

The chips can't be too small either. There are some things that will have to be duplicated across the chips, so there will be some redundant waste there too. Also not all tasks can be parallelized nicely across multiple chips without massive interconnect bandwidth. I doubt each core will be equivalent to a budget chip. Assuming they want to use one chip to cover the entire range, my guess would be dual core for high end, cutdown for low end, one core for midrange. Else they will just end up wasting most of the core on the non scalable stuff.

the upgrades never ends

all the anticipated games already launched, most of the games i already finished. afaik during feb the 9series are launched there no hot game titles out at that ??

Hopefully these new cards are 2x faster in Direct X10 than any of the current cards while being able to handle 4xAA and 16xAF

Gaming in Direct X10 is a pain at the moment, especially at higher resolution.

Lotsa competition = Lotsa development = Better for consumers.

Can play crysis with very high+4aa+16x anisotropy what . Also gonna try with World in Conflict with everthing maxxed out

I gonna save my money to get geforce9, It be great than enough ^^

i thinks nvidia wont announce 10 series , which is same name as ATI ...
example 1600,1800,1900 ..

Here is something to get your mind scratching...

indeed

indeed

haiyah just get the 9 series straight away la nothing wrong with waiting game ma

omg, here we are still getting the finer details of the 8800 series and the 9000 series are round the corner....this has indeed been a very interesting year for graphic cards as mentioned by a forummer....but I wonder how come suddenly there is a rush in this direction?? anybody got ideas??

ati and nvidia are in a hot competition.

If the pricing in US300 range for "9800GTS", then will start selling 8800GT before launch.

finally, mid range card gets 256bits memory controller.
I hope D9 is a completely new architecture though. Not just DX10.1 update.

Hardly any rush at all. GeForce 8 is way more than a year old. We should have seen GF 9 by now but instead, they keep coming up updates with 8800GT and then 8800GTS again. It's good for those who was looking to buy a new card at that time, but it terms of performance, it's been a boring year.

GeForce 8800 Ultra remains the fastest GPU into 2008.

G92 is D8P, so D9P will be the replacement for that.
9 will build on 8, just as R700 will build on R600. There are very few completely new architectures.

I'm confuse by that G92 D8 thing.
I mean, are they re branding the G92 (which is 8800GTS 512MB now) to D8P? I think the G92 now is already 65nm, so I don't see any other changes to it when they start calling it D8P.

Internal designations and what they write on the chip can be different. It's just a name.

GF9 mid end cards can support Crysis at High setting with mid resolution haha.Thats what new gen card do haha.

my 8800GTX .....is doom.....T_T

This post has been edited by commanderz: Dec 3 2007, 01:39 PM

U are always welcomed to upgrade.... They will spread their arms for u (yeah right, more like ur money )... I'm gonna upgrade to 9 series later if it meets my requirements.... Hahaha!!!

hardware upgrading flow is juz like my money, flowing away unlimited

Wow, seems like more than half this thread is filled with completely useless posts.

I would say that more than half of the hardware forum is filled with completely useless posts!

Including this one! And the one above!

guess i'm gonna do jumping too?? from ATi X300 to HD4xxx??

imo, skipping one generation of cards or not...one of the most important reasons most ppl upgrade their GC is due to the want to play new games with new graphics engine that offers a totally new level of experience like how Crysis does.
If one must experience all the games in its full glory especially games like Crysis, then it will inevitably necessitate the change to the latest GC from time to time.

i dn tink wanna change 9 series....mabye 10 series ...@@....bcoz..next year.....dn have many game to play.......just farcry 2 n starcraft 2...other all... ........also...i dn tink the game in 2008...will.....use dx 10.1.....mabye need wait 9 month or 2009...only will saw a dx 10.1 game....... just like last time i get 8800 - -........waited almos half life.....only have chance to play in dx 10 game...

This post has been edited by commanderz: Dec 4 2007, 03:03 PM

A brand new kancil worth 20k. Dont tell me ur computer worth 20k haha.

A question. The new GC cards (high end) will be out next year feb?

What am i gonna do with my 7900GS? it sucks..!

gimme

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This post has been edited by khaidani: Dec 4 2007, 08:58 PM

im sure the new 9 series will have GDDR 5

Maybe...but most likely not. They haven't even embarked unto GDDR4. But some quarters do argue that since GDDR5 is already in stable production capacity, might as well jump directly to GDDR5 instead of GDDR4. My money is on GDDR4 though.

I think it will use gddr4 coz only ATI using ggdr4 rite now.

i think im very much with u
my gc cards in sequence
1. onboard graphic
2. tnt2 m64
3. GF2 pro
4. GF4 ti4200
5. GF6 - 6600GT
6. GF6- 6800ultra
except for i upgraded from a 6600GT to 6800 ultra (when 6800ultra already quite cheap)

can still play COD4

As a rule of thumb for me, I would only upgrade my gpu if and only if the new cpu have almost 2x the performance of my current gpu.

And also if I can't game at my LCD monitor's native resolution ie. 1280x1024. Might change to 22-24 inch when I do build a new system which is probably in 1-2 years time.

There is something cross my mind.

with AMD/ATI being less competitive, I wonder will Nvidia took a chance to shrink the chip even further & more efficient like they did during the transition from GeForce 6 series to GeForce 7 series.

I would like to have a energy/performance efficient chip like to Geforce 7 series.

i will prolly skip 9 series too. my 8800gt can still go strong.

me too

unless 9 series can play crysis at everything max + FPS>50 then maybe different story

technology will always suprise you, my friend.

just like how geforce6 surprise the geforce5

From the past, looking at GeForce 3 (first DX8 card, introduction of programmable shader), GeForce 5 (first DX9, we all knew what happened), usually the first generation of GPU for a new API (especially DX8) doesn't do too well as compare to the next gen GPU that follows.

Of course we can only guess how next gen cards will perform, but since DX10 introduce new architecture (unified shaders), I somewhat expect this coming GPU to bring significant improvement that will further utilize this architecture...

ya~~ 9 series is useless change early.....unless using an old card...and wan change to 9 series....also...i dn tink dx 10.1 game will out until....2009.....mabye tat time...10 series...dx 10.2????

we might not know whether the 9s series card will be faulty, let others try 1st. =p

I also thought of wanting to upgrade to 9 series but I dun wish to be the guinea pig.... Looking back at the history of GCs, usually the 1st batch of the cards are not that good..... So, will see what will happen later....

First batch of card? GeForce 9? Huh? First batch for DirectX 10.1? As opposed to GeForce 8 being first batch for DirectX 10? How much do you people know about DirectX 10 and 10.1?

Its not the feature but its more on the performance that will be the selling point

GeForce 8 is the first batch of DirectX 10

If you consider D9E to be first batch just because its DX 10.1, then heck D10E will be first batch for DX10.2 and so on, so you might as well don't buy any graphic card at all.

I might try to be the next guinea pig..saving up money for it..hehekz...

i think.. it shouldn't be next raising point
it should be dx 10.1a, 10.1b and lastly 10.1c <-- should be the stable dx 10 API...
like how they done with dx9.0, 9.0a, 9.0b and 9.0c (include in win xp SP2)

This post has been edited by zeronehza: Dec 6 2007, 02:09 PM

u cant tell how long can ur 8800gt last.

my x1950pro bought 6months ago turn into one piece of scrap in today.
i cant play all the new game in max detail, not to say Creamsys