You got it wrong.

8800GT was mid-nov originally, later than 3800s.

They made an "emergancy" launch and you could count it as one of the rather poor launches nV has made. Performance is there, but you get literally no stock at MSRP, DOA cards, and some people actually got the 3800s instead.

If they launched after, people would've waited, and there wouldn't be so many issues anyway.

Yields and flexbility?

The way it's done currently is kinda retarded compared to what R700 is going for. They'd only need to tape out ONE chip, make that for ALL segments of the market, and class PRO/XT (50/70) by using clockspeeds on top of multiple core.


For one, the R700 "Mini-cores" are going to be dirt cheap to make compared to nVidia's G80 benmoth, or even ATI's RV670. 1 minicore would take about the same cost as a budget chip would. If we assume the worst and put pricing down to 4 "budget" cards (+markup etc), they'll still be loltons cheaper than a highend chip. Performance I can't talk, nobody can for now.

4 small cores should be much more versatile to cool than 1 huge core (cheaper cooling). With a fraction of SPs it's very unlikely they're gonna heat up that fast, too. Plus, when the card is idle, power management is much more easier than just clock throttling- just shut down cores. These cores should also be the stepping stone to Fusion.

BTW 2 RV670s as it goes should handily beat the 8800Ultra. Even the 8800GT is not far from the GTX at stock. Definitely not an elegant solution (the Ultra too) though.

I never believed in PR wars. Getting the ultimate fast card mostly means nothing except for fantards being happily scalpted for bragging rights. X1950XTX, 6800 Ultra etc. redux.

Aimed for imminent snatching...

This post has been edited by X.E.D: Dec 1 2007, 10:00 PM

GTA IV is not coming to the PC. Rockstar's RAGE technology is not ported, and should never be.

If you're waiting for the 9600GT, just go make your life easier and buy a 3850.

Since that's cheap in Malaysia, and estimated performance should be as good/better.

64SP means that you really won't see spectacular performance, not even close to the 88GT.

Sure, the clocks may be high, the shaders may be optimized, but you just won't escape 64SPs on a small chip.