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post Dec 1 2007, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Dec 1 2007, 12:13 PM)
if the ati can make it come true, the next gen r700 will come with multicore for vga, even midrange hv 2 graphic core... hope nvidia will do the same...
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What kind of multi core are you talking about?

If multiple GPU, that's not really a good thing, power consumption and cost will be through the roof. The idea of using multiple HD 3k GPU to try and get the performance crown just shows how bad ATi are doing, they are not capable of producing a single GPU that could beat GeForce 8800 Ultra.

If you mean multicore as in multiple GPU on a single die, I don't think it makes any sense at all since they are already massively parallel processor.

i mean, if you can cramp in 2 GPU cores, each with 128 SMP into a single die, why not make a core with 256 SMP instead.
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post Dec 3 2007, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(clayclws @ Dec 2 2007, 09:25 PM)
Here is something to get your mind scratching...
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finally, mid range card gets 256bits memory controller.
I hope D9 is a completely new architecture though. Not just DX10.1 update.

QUOTE(ronho @ Dec 2 2007, 11:15 PM)
omg, here we are still getting the finer details of the 8800 series and the 9000 series are round the corner....this has indeed been a very interesting year for graphic cards as mentioned by a forummer....but I wonder how come suddenly there is a rush in this direction?? anybody got ideas??
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Hardly any rush at all. GeForce 8 is way more than a year old. We should have seen GF 9 by now but instead, they keep coming up updates with 8800GT and then 8800GTS again. It's good for those who was looking to buy a new card at that time, but it terms of performance, it's been a boring year.

GeForce 8800 Ultra remains the fastest GPU into 2008.
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post Dec 3 2007, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Dec 3 2007, 12:50 PM)
G92 is D8P, so D9P will be the replacement for that.
9 will build on 8, just as R700 will build on R600. There are very few completely new architectures.
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I'm confuse by that G92 D8 thing.
I mean, are they re branding the G92 (which is 8800GTS 512MB now) to D8P? I think the G92 now is already 65nm, so I don't see any other changes to it when they start calling it D8P.
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post Dec 5 2007, 06:52 PM

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From the past, looking at GeForce 3 (first DX8 card, introduction of programmable shader), GeForce 5 (first DX9, we all knew what happened), usually the first generation of GPU for a new API (especially DX8) doesn't do too well as compare to the next gen GPU that follows.

Of course we can only guess how next gen cards will perform, but since DX10 introduce new architecture (unified shaders), I somewhat expect this coming GPU to bring significant improvement that will further utilize this architecture...
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post Dec 6 2007, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(commanderz @ Dec 5 2007, 07:39 PM)
ya~~ 9 series is useless change early.....unless using an old card...and wan change to 9 series....also...i dn tink dx 10.1 game will out until....2009.....mabye tat time...10 series...dx 10.2????
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Its not the feature but its more on the performance that will be the selling point

QUOTE(Aura @ Dec 6 2007, 11:05 AM)
I also thought of wanting to upgrade to 9 series but I dun wish to be the guinea pig.... Looking back at the history of GCs, usually the 1st batch of the cards are not that good..... So, will see what will happen later....
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GeForce 8 is the first batch of DirectX 10

If you consider D9E to be first batch just because its DX 10.1, then heck D10E will be first batch for DX10.2 and so on, so you might as well don't buy any graphic card at all.
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post Dec 11 2007, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Dec 9 2007, 07:14 PM)
so far got any spec for those new gen card? rumor?
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High end card may have 512bits memory bus, while mid range will finally get 256bits bus.

Just rumor only. Haven't come across rumors on how many SP it will have though.
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post Dec 11 2007, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 11 2007, 07:05 PM)
I wonder if...

Two 8800 Ultra = One 9800 GTX

or

Two 8800 GT = One 9800 GTX

Either one, Nvidia GeForce 8 users will not be happy.

Wow... can't believe it, GeForce 9 series... it felt like GeForce 8 was released just months ago....
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That trend has been going on for years now there's nothing to be unhappy about

GeForce 8 was more than a year ago. D9E should have been in the market by now.
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post Dec 12 2007, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(kagi182 @ Dec 11 2007, 10:52 PM)
well i was thinking tat why dun u juz buy a console instead of neverending of upgrade? 1 gc is equivalent to a console by average thou...
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Depends on games title. Crysis are not available on console, and so are many games that I love.
Even getting a console doesn't mean you can play all console game, there's 3 different console out there biggrin.gif

That kind of decision really depends on a person's preference what games he/she likes to play. Unless of course you're rich enough to own all 4 gaming hardware
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post Dec 13 2007, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Dec 13 2007, 11:08 AM)
u think they will release a unplayable game on xbox? think.... they will reduce the graphics details to make it playable
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And totally kill the game quality in the process.

But of course there's a possibility or porting, but it will be a different game, like FarCry Instinct for xbox, its not the original FarCry

That's the only way to make people buy the game, otherwise why would anyone wants to run a crippled Crysis on x360 that cost more than the real Crysis that cost lesser.
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post Dec 25 2007, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(jcliew @ Dec 25 2007, 09:27 AM)
New 8800GT n 8800GTS G92 just launched recently now GeForce 9 series plan to launch by Feb 2008?? Cannot invest on graphic cards anymore liao since the life cycle that short sad.gif
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Those are just refreshment part. Its still the same GeForce 8, just with smaller fabrication process.
A new architecture is long overdue. GeForce 8 has been in the market for more than a year now.
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post Jan 4 2008, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(ianho @ Jan 4 2008, 03:53 PM)
7950GX2 was not a failure. It was a brilliant card. The failure was Quad SLI with 2 units of 7950GX2 running in SLI.
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Many was pissed off after nVidia released the GeForce 8 not too long after they spend on 7950GX2

I'm somewhat disappointed that this is the same old GeForce 8800, and only 30% faster. Something is not right
Probably is just another push for GeForce 8 before finally moving on to a new range of GPU, which makes this GX2 a pointless card to spend on.

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post Jan 5 2008, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Jan 4 2008, 11:00 PM)
GeForce 9800 & 9600 specs and availability

1. GeForce 9800 GX2 : 2 x 65nm G92, 256 shader processors, 2 x 256-bit memory interface, 1GB memories, Feb-Mar

2. GeForce 9800 GTX : Replace 8800GTX, Feb-Mar

3. GeForce 9800 GT : Replace 8800 GT, Mar-Apr

4. GeForce 9600 GT : Launch on Feb 14th, 64 shader processors, 256-bit memory interface, 512MB memories, 8600GTS< 9600GT<8800GT, US$169
Source : http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=221448
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Its funny how the put it that way as if G9800GX2 will be a monster lol. Basically, its still 512MB per core. If data has to be duplicated across both cores, the card will just have an effective size of 512MB. The effective memory bus is also 256bits only. Given the fact that its only 30% faster than an 8800Ultra (though this card has 2x SPs), i think it goes to show how inefficient the card is. It 2 PCB slap together, and probably aren't clocked at a very high frequency.

98 is just a new number for the 65nm die shrink. Its still the same 15 months old GPU.

I think nVidia are holding back the real next gen chips until ATi release their R700. Till then, its a boring 1H 2008.
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post Jan 6 2008, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Jan 5 2008, 06:40 PM)
SO big...same size to Ultra.....Rumor say it fasther and greather than 8800Ultra...Ultra now market price is Rm2800.....Hohoho...if great than ultra price sure RM3k above...hohoho...SLI is rm6k Same price to my entire Rig!!!
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Expected to be 30% faster than Ultra
Ultra price may drop

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Nov 24 2008, 10:34 AM)
Im loving my Forsa 9800 gtx+ with its performance and cooling. But it keeps locking up especially during online racing. (somehow changed to 2d mode that made it locked up). Apart from that....its a brilliant card....if u have the PSU. it takes two 6-pin PCI-E connectors.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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And I was thinking about getting that Forsa card sweat.gif

Is the crash just with 1 games only, or all games?

62c under load is quite normal IMO, shouldn't be the temp... or your 550W PSU, thats more than enough
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post Nov 25 2008, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Nov 24 2008, 11:09 PM)
Had tried it with rfactor (i simrace almost everyday) and the card gave me prob. Its not nice when u have raced 20 laps for almost an hour then the gc decides to lock up and u lose all advantage. vmad.gif

And ive tried Crysis at 1280 runs flawlessly but the fps gets more and more sluggish as the game progresses....strange. No lockups there.

MOH Airborne gives no prob at all. Probably coz of its PhysX integration.

But in all instance after an hour of gaming and when i return to desktop, the whole pc just freeze for awhile (5-10s) then go back to normal.
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That sounds quite serious sweat.gif

I check the PSU in your sig, its a very good PSU, so I think its safe to say its probably the card hardware problem

I might stay away from Forsa now... sweat.gif

 

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