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TShcmalaya
post Sep 26 2025, 11:08 PM, updated 10m ago

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Checkmate
https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/7fd28b5f50dea...ia_06102025.pdf

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Updated FIFA appeal report link
https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/f78c599f752a4...of-Malaysia.pdf

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post Sep 26 2025, 11:09 PM

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post Sep 26 2025, 11:18 PM

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Not TMJ master plan? How can kantoi?
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post Sep 26 2025, 11:19 PM

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Konohans gonna have a field day
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post Sep 26 2025, 11:20 PM

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post Sep 26 2025, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Sep 26 2025, 11:19 PM)
Konohans gonna have a field day
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Konoha vietcong adi assembled onslaught
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post Sep 26 2025, 11:28 PM

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Now taxpayer money need to use for fifa saman kekwa
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post Sep 26 2025, 11:29 PM

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I want to know what are the doctored details/documents - that they have Malaysian roots?
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post Sep 26 2025, 11:39 PM

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post Sep 26 2025, 11:43 PM

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So datuk dia bukan orang malaysia? Kek
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post Sep 26 2025, 11:46 PM

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No wonder the FAM president resigned la

So the AFC win against Vietnam canceled or not?

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post Sep 26 2025, 11:47 PM

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I mean who going to take credit for?

I know when success one guy take credit, when fail like this….
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post Sep 26 2025, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(Hollow21 @ Sep 26 2025, 11:46 PM)
No wonder the FAM president resigned la

So the AFC win against Vietnam canceled or not?

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IF FAIL - MAS 0-3 VN
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Bye Asia Cup and ranking 150 kot
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post Sep 26 2025, 11:50 PM

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post Sep 26 2025, 11:53 PM

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post Sep 26 2025, 11:54 PM

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So apa TMJ gonna say?

Not just konoha, basically all TMJ and JDT haters have a field day.
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post Sep 26 2025, 11:56 PM

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adoi, why need to cheat la

accept the fact that malaysia cannot in football la

take the L and move on....
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post Sep 27 2025, 12:02 AM

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Of this is jdt players… so jdt win also batal??
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post Sep 27 2025, 12:04 AM

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What i don’t understand is our people so stupid thinking fifa willl not find out if it’s fake??? Some more so many
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 27 2025, 12:04 AM)
After
GK Syihan Hazmi
RB Dion Cools ©
CB Shahrul Saad
CB Dominic Tan
LB Corbin Ong
CM Afiq Fazail
CM Stuart Wilkin
RW Arif Aiman
LW Faisal Halim
AM Endrick
CF Romel Morales

Ok je tanpa warisan Latin
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Aku bukan nak kata padan muka pada fam dan meow.
Cuma benda ni dari awal dah ada bau bau yang tak menyenangkan
Bertabahlah peminat bola sepak MY semua...

Namunnnnn...

Persoalannya, apa kata J...hehehe
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post Sep 27 2025, 12:24 AM

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Ini benda baik jangan komen so much. Kesian someone has to telan it.

BRB, layan FB jap. wanna see those supporters what they want to say now.

Suddenly reminded me last time Suckdiq said there's some request and he can't do it cos crossed the line, during his KBS time.

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SIARAN MEDIA: FAM AKAN MEMBUAT RAYUAN TERHADAP KEPUTUSAN FIFA BERHUBUNG PEMAIN WARISAN

Persatuan Bolasepak Malaysia (FAM) mengesahkan bahawa pihak kami telah menerima keputusan rasmi daripada Persekutuan Bola Sepak Antarabangsa (FIFA) berkaitan kes pemain warisan.

FAM ingin menegaskan bahawa para pemain terbabit dan FAM sendiri telah bertindak dengan niat baik serta penuh ketelusan sepanjang proses ini.

FAM telah menguruskan segala dokumentasi serta prosedur berkaitan secara telus mengikut garis panduan yang ditetapkan. Malah, FIFA sebelum ini telah meneliti kelayakan pemain berkenaan dan memberikan pengesahan rasmi bahawa mereka layak untuk beraksi mewakili Malaysia.

Sehubungan dengan keputusan ini, FAM akan membuat rayuan terhadap keputusan tersebut dan akan menggunakan semua saluran serta prosedur perundangan yang ada bagi memastikan kepentingan para pemain serta pasukan kebangsaan Malaysia sentiasa terpelihara.

FAM kekal komited untuk bertindak dengan tegas, mematuhi peraturan antarabangsa, serta mempertahankan integriti bola sepak negara.

Kami juga akan terus bekerjasama rapat dengan Kerajaan Malaysia dan semua pihak berkepentingan bagi memastikan proses yang dijalankan adalah telus, adil dan berlandaskan semangat kesukanan.

Sebarang perkembangan lanjut mengenai proses rayuan dan langkah susulan oleh FAM akan dimaklumkan kepada umum dari semasa ke semasa.

DATUK WIRA MOHD YUSOFF HAJI MAHADI
Pemangku Presiden Persatuan Bolasepak Malaysia (FAM)
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Thanks FIFA. I've had enough of that fella ruining local football.
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france whole squad also black, ok je.
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Sep 27 2025, 01:29 AM)
france whole squad also black, ok je.
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Most of them were born and raised in France.
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Many NGO already questioning of fast track passport of helang vs stateless people. But cannot tanya soalan susah... But if really forging a document.. that's is really low.
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Thanks FIFA. I've had enough of that fella ruining local football.
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So what will happen after appeal still kena sanctions?

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post Sep 27 2025, 04:02 AM

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Not surprising, last time i saw malaysia team photo

I was like "why so many foreigners '
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FIFA give face, didn't suspend fam.

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QUOTE(EX Unseen Forces @ Sep 27 2025, 01:01 AM)
I think PMX and DAP has to resign... unsure.gif
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QUOTE(tik @ Sep 27 2025, 02:58 AM)
like usual good things so fast claim, bad things so fast blame people

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QUOTE(EX Unseen Forces @ Sep 27 2025, 01:01 AM)
I think PMX and DAP has to resign... unsure.gif
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It would be the same no matter who is the government, kucing cakap jangan. Anyway dun pancut awal. I really hope MY dun go so low of using document palsu.

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QUOTE(11c @ Sep 27 2025, 12:02 AM)
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Of this is jdt players… so jdt win also batal??
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No, JDT is a football club. Nationality of players does not matter unless FIFA set some ruling on number of foreign players eligible to play.
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Kucing says dont
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QUOTE(mick84 @ Sep 27 2025, 12:24 AM)
Ini benda baik jangan komen so much. Kesian someone has to telan it.

BRB, layan FB jap. wanna see those supporters what they want to say now.

Suddenly reminded me last time Suckdiq said there's some request and he can't do it cos crossed the line, during his KBS time.
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So saddick was correct then? He refuse to budge under pressure! No wonder he and that fella cannot get along la, if not mistaken!
Anyway, I am against imported players. This team of Malaysian players representing Malaysia sounds like a foreign team. lol. Not that I watch local soccer. In fact hardly watch soccer now, except for excerpts on u tube. 1.5 hours to watch 22 pax chasing a ball all over a football field is too long for me, though I enjoy watching Messi at his prime. Prefer to watch Badminton cos it is usually 30-40 mins match and more exciting!
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If proven and confirmed true, this is shameful, doctoring documentation is like forging your report card scores before letting your parents sign, thinking they won't find out?
FAM must prove it's innocence in the appeal.
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QUOTE(torres09 @ Sep 27 2025, 05:56 AM)
If proven and confirmed true, this is shameful, doctoring documentation is like forging your report card scores before letting your parents sign, thinking they won't find out?
FAM must prove it's innocence in the appeal.
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Means they probably don’t have IC or maybe they hold dual nationality. Usually an IC is the proof of being Malaysian and can play.




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Not TMJ master plan? How can kantoi?
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FAM think other people blind ar?
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Sep 27 2025, 05:51 AM)
So saddick was correct then? He refuse to budge under pressure!  No wonder he and that fella cannot get along la, if not mistaken! 
Anyway, I am against imported players.  This team of Malaysian players representing Malaysia sounds like a foreign team.  lol.  Not that I watch local soccer.  In fact hardly watch soccer now, except for excerpts on u tube. 1.5 hours to watch 22 pax chasing a ball all over a football field is too long for me, though I enjoy watching Messi at his prime. Prefer to watch Badminton cos it is usually 30-40 mins match and more exciting!
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Exactly. I ain't watching national team football to see some stupid latinos playing it. Win also no feel.
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Sobering words!

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...amed-the-nation
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Let’s just say fifa banned countries from participating in international matches for lesser offence.
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Not salah Hanayo ke?
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mempersiasuikan malaysia , getting angmo to play for malaysia is stupid way to improve our football world ranking , learn from japan and korea , not from china of course !
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who is the Master in this plan ...lol
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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Sep 27 2025, 03:33 AM)
So what will happen after appeal still kena sanctions?
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Past 4 affected matches 3W1D revise to 0-3 losses
Ranking drop to 150
Out of Asia Cup
Eternal shame
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Helang from southern project failed?

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 27 2025, 08:34 AM)
Past 4 affected matches 3W1D revise to 0-3 losses
Ranking drop to 150
Out of Asia Cup
Eternal shame
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 27 2025, 09:34 AM)
Past 4 affected matches 3W1D revise to 0-3 losses
Ranking drop to 150
Out of Asia Cup
Eternal shame
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So kucing kata jangan, macam mana?
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Helang from southern project failed?
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Sep 27 2025, 05:45 AM)
No, JDT is a football club.  Nationality of players does not matter unless FIFA set some ruling on number of foreign players eligible to play.
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ACLE no limit of foreign players but MSL has a limit of 15 max and 6 play on field.
So on local league, JDT potentially forfeit all the matches.
Eg JDT 8-0 Sabah forfeit JDT 0-3 Sabah.
Local - 3 Arif, Syihan, Afiq
Ban - 2 Botak, Irazabal
Grey - 1 Mendez
Import- 5 Bergson, Arribas, Eddy, Aketxe, Parra
JDT could miss next season ACLE too
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Dah kena Dah. Dlm bolehland boleh je edit document, minta oren kita DNAA, NFA org yg sah kesalahan, Akta AMLA, SOSMA org yg walaupun bukan terrorist. Kat luar masih perangai mcm ni, hmmm mesti hidup lama sgt, boring dah
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QUOTE(tik @ Sep 27 2025, 02:58 AM)
Eh B40 tarak komen this?
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QUOTE(thunderkingkong @ Sep 27 2025, 08:15 AM)
mempersiasuikan malaysia , getting angmo to play for malaysia is stupid way to improve our football world ranking , learn from japan and korea , not from china of course !
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 27 2025, 08:50 AM)
ACLE no limit of foreign players but MSL has a limit of 15 max and 6 play on field.
So on local league, JDT potentially forfeit all the matches.
Eg JDT 8-0 Sabah forfeit JDT 0-3 Sabah.
Local - 3 Arif, Syihan, Afiq
Ban - 2 Botak, Irazabal
Grey - 1 Mendez
Import- 5 Bergson, Arribas, Eddy, Aketxe, Parra
JDT could miss next season ACLE too
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But so far, this is only for FAM and national soccer team, right? Club soccer no issues yet, correct?

Just curious, how many of our national team are from JDT? Are these players the ones singled out by FIFA? If yes, wonder who the master mind for this screw ups! 🧐
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Sep 27 2025, 09:03 AM)
But so far, this is only for FAM and national soccer team, right?  Club soccer no issues yet, correct? 


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Eg if ur IC is nullified
Then lose passport
Lose driving license
Cannot buy this that later
But of coz in real world Cash is K
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Sep 27 2025, 09:03 AM)
But so far, this is only for FAM and national soccer team, right?  Club soccer no issues yet, correct? 

Just curious, how many of our national team are from JDT?  Are these players the ones singled out by FIFA?  If yes, wonder who the master mind for this screw ups! 🧐
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National team = jdt
They poached every single players and let them rot on the bench or loan them out
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Sep 27 2025, 10:06 AM)
National team = jdt
They poached every single players and let them rot on the bench or loan them out
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Kucen kata…
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Sep 27 2025, 09:07 AM)
Kucen kata…
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when I saw the name list I was lmao

spend so much for other people pocket

u spend on kampung people still better la

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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Sep 27 2025, 09:06 AM)
National team = jdt
They poached every single players and let them rot on the bench or loan them out
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Taking a leaf from Chelsea. Buy all competitors top players
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So, these Latino punya atuk nenek not Malaysian?
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Oh, if any of you wanna trace the origin of your family, kindly contact FAM. They are really good at this thing. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Sep 27 2025, 09:12 AM)
Taking a leaf from Chelsea.  Buy all competitors top players
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Not just players

Even top coaches of other performing teams kena jampi
TCH with Selangor new season into ACL2 can tiba2 resign to join a Thai club fighting relegation
Kekwa
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Hope that fraud of a state got major impact as well
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Ada komen Kasi buang negara? Eh wait….
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Back in 90s
Ayam stay awake 12am
Just to watch replay of AFC Youth Qualifier on RTM
Malaysia lost 3-8 to South Korea
But ayam was happy just to see 3 goals
Akmal Rizal was a good player back then

Fast forward 2018 Asian Games
Safawi scored 2 stunner goals
Malaysia 2-1 Korea
Ayam was dreaming on

2024 Asia Cup
Malaysia 3-3 Korea
Faisal Halim scored best goal of the tournament

2025…
Dream shattered
The pain in heart is unmeasurable
Kekwa
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Next FAM will send show cause letter and demand explanation from fifa
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Well its about time somebody realize their power is not infinities, its bounded to this god forsaken nation only.

U can stop people from talking bad about u or your policy, u can tokok in sosmed about literally anything without repercussion, but people cannot talk back to u. U can find your ways here and there because u have special blood. u can literally do anything here because of your status. About time someone realized that the power they held is only limited here in this country.
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Sep 27 2025, 09:30 AM)
Next FAM will send show cause letter and demand explanation from fifa
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If FAM has proof that those players have Malaysian ICs and have renounced their original nationality then FAM could even sue FIFA in the High Court.


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If FAM has proof that those players have Malaysian ICs and have renounced their original nationality then FAM could even sue FIFA in the High Court.
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Calm ur tits
Citizenship is only one part of the rule
There are still others criteria to fulfil
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When is the International Paralympic Committee gonna sanction BolehLand for the ill-treatment, threats and unabashed bullying of our athletes?

Yes all fingers should be pointed squarely at Megat.
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Calm ur tits
Citizenship is only one part of the rule
There are still others criteria to fulfil
Kekwa
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At least this is the strongest point. Other things can be claimed as written wrongly but if you cannot even prove these then you’re screwed.


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If FAM has proof that those players have Malaysian ICs and have renounced their original nationality then FAM could even sue FIFA in the High Court.
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Wow, then fifa will appeal and go federal court?
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Sep 26 2025, 11:28 PM)
Now taxpayer money need to use for fifa saman kekwa
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We paid to build the stadiums, for player development, FAM salaries & now have to pay the fine for those troubles.

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QUOTE(azack @ Sep 27 2025, 02:06 AM)
Many NGO already questioning of fast track passport of helang vs stateless people. But cannot tanya soalan susah... But if really forging a document.. that's is really low.
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No wonder so many immigrants officers kena tangkap in johor
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JimbeamofNRT many risky comments in this thread that I wonder whether people dare to make if they have to use Digital ID?
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FAM must answer for this debacle. Who make them do it? It is shameful our country represented by almost all foreigners

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FIFA so corrupt. Forgot to grease some peoples hand?

Or it’s just too obvious? Lol.
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QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Sep 27 2025, 09:34 AM)
Well its about time somebody realize their power is not infinities, its bounded to this god forsaken nation only.

U can stop people from talking bad about u or your policy, u can tokok in sosmed about literally anything without repercussion, but people cannot talk back to u. U can find your ways here and there because u have special blood. u can literally do anything here because of your status. About time someone realized that the power they held is only limited here in this country.
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Who was this people's?
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Guys, even without FIfA sanctions, we should be questioning our lineup against Indonesia. Makan maluuu jer
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Sep 27 2025, 10:19 AM)
FAM must answer for this debacle. Who make them do it? It is shameful our country represented by almost all foreigners
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They got some local heritage la. Maybe grandad or granny are Malaysian pipul.

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They got some local heritage la. Maybe grandad or granny are Malaysian pipul.
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Heritage is unimportant. Clerical errors can also be explained during an appeal. What’s important is to prove that JPN has already issued the IC and that the players have renounced their former nationality.


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Heritage is unimportant. Clerical errors can also be explained during an appeal. What’s important is to prove that JPN has already issued the IC and that the players have renounced their former nationality.
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Go read up fifa eligibility rules before keep spamming on IC ya

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Guys, even without FIfA sanctions, we should be questioning our lineup against Indonesia. Makan maluuu jer
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Indonesia?
Pagi2 konoha dah ketum
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Go read up fifa eligibility rules before keep spamming on IC ya
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You should read up not me. Even if they submitted wrongly under naturalization or ancestry based eligibility as long as they hold a Malaysian IC and have no dual nationality it is illegal for FIFA to continue the ban after an appeal.


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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Sep 27 2025, 10:51 AM)
You should read up not me. Even if they submitted wrongly under naturalization or ancestry based eligibility as long as they hold a Malaysian IC and have no dual nationality it is illegal for FIFA to continue the ban after an appeal.
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lol
You’re telling the fifa mafia what they can and can’t do?! Lmao
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You should read up not me. Even if they submitted wrongly under naturalization or ancestry based eligibility as long as they hold a Malaysian IC and have no dual nationality it is illegal for FIFA to continue the ban after an appeal.
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 27 2025, 11:02 AM)
Kekwa
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Based on FIFA's findings, the seven Malaysian players—Gabriel Felipe Arrocha, Facundo Tomás Garcés, Rodrigo Julián Holgado, Imanol Javier Machuca, João Vítor Brandão Figueiredo, Jon Irazábal Iraurgui, and Héctor Alejandro Hevel Serrano—were sanctioned for breaches related to forgery and falsification under Article 22 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code. FIFA's investigation revealed that the Football Association of Malaysia (FAM) submitted doctored documentation during eligibility inquiries to field these players, violating regulations concerning forgery and falsification.

While FIFA did not specify the exact nature of the falsified documents, such documents typically include:

Malaysian Identity Cards (ICs): To establish citizenship status.

Renunciation Certificates: To prove the renouncement of previous nationalities.

Birth Certificates: To verify ancestry or place of birth.

Naturalization Documents: To confirm the legal process of acquiring Malaysian citizenship.


The sanctions imposed by FIFA include:

FAM: Fined CHF 350,000.

Each player: Fined CHF 2,000 and suspended from all football-related activities for 12 months.


Additionally, the matter of the players' eligibility to represent Malaysia has been referred to the FIFA Football Tribunal for further consideration.

FAM and the players have 10 days to request a motivated decision, which, if requested, would subsequently be published on FIFA's legal website. The decision remains subject to a potential appeal before the FIFA Appeal Committee.

If you have further questions or need more detailed information on this matter, feel free to ask.
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Roflmao..


The whole process will make a scam gang proud.

No more value in the game.

Fifa should just ban naturalized players for good at intl level.

Cubs are fine.

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Oh, if any of you wanna trace the origin of your family, kindly contact FAM. They are really good at this thing. whistling.gif
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You know there was a bestseller book named ROOTS, by Alex Haley? He traced his roots to Africa and became a hit series many years ago. Now based on you said, is FAM who can do this? Wow!
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 27 2025, 09:17 AM)
Not just players

Even top coaches of other performing teams kena jampi
TCH with Selangor new season into ACL2 can tiba2 resign to join a Thai club fighting relegation
Kekwa
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Really? This has anything to do with the soccer player who kena simba said recently? 🧐
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Sep 27 2025, 11:08 AM)
Roflmao..
The whole process will make a scam gang proud.

No more value in the game.

Fifa should just ban naturalized players for good at intl level.

Cubs are fine.
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Naturalisation is different as it still requires the player to spend a few years in the country first.

This is the heritage route which I think requires either the player's parents or grandparents being from the country.

These affected players were added out of nowhere.
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 27 2025, 09:25 AM)
Back in 90s
Ayam stay awake 12am
Just to watch replay of AFC Youth Qualifier on RTM
Malaysia lost 3-8 to South Korea
But ayam was happy just to see 3 goals
Akmal Rizal was a good player back then

Fast forward 2018 Asian Games
Safawi scored 2 stunner goals
Malaysia 2-1 Korea
Ayam was dreaming on

2024 Asia Cup
Malaysia 3-3 Korea
Faisal Halim scored best goal of the tournament

2025…
Dream shattered
The pain in heart is unmeasurable
Kekwa
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I think the golems age was in the 80’s when we qualified for the Olympics but did not compete. We have supermokh, Spider-Man arumugam, taukeh soh, santokh Singh, James, quah kim song who went on to play in bundesliga, etc. after that, the rot starts … who can forget the Merdeka Stadium roar during Merdeka tournament? Vs Korea then….
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Sep 27 2025, 10:21 AM)
Who was this people's?
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Soalan briani!!!! 😈😎
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You should read up not me. Even if they submitted wrongly under naturalization or ancestry based eligibility as long as they hold a Malaysian IC and have no dual nationality it is illegal for FIFA to continue the ban after an appeal.
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No need to read up, just ask AI

FIFA’s rules on the eligibility of naturalized players are governed mainly by Articles 5–8 of the FIFA Statutes and Regulations Governing the Application of the Statutes. The key points are:
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1️⃣ Basic Principle – Nationality Requirement
• A player must hold the nationality of the country they wish to represent.
• Having a passport is not automatically enough — the nationality must be recognized under the country’s laws.
________________________________________
2️⃣ Connection Requirement for Naturalized Players
If a player acquires a new nationality (naturalization) and has no family ties to the country (no parent or grandparent born there), they must meet additional residency requirements:
• Five years’ continuous residence in the country after turning 18.

This is the core FIFA rule for naturalized players (Article 7).
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3️⃣ Family Ties Exception
If a player’s biological parent or grandparent was born in the country, or if the player themselves was born there, they can represent the country without the 5-year residency requirement (Articles 5–6).
________________________________________
4️⃣ Change of Association
If a player already played for another national team, switching to a new one is only allowed if:
• They had the nationality of the new country at the time of their first appearance for the old country; and
• They meet FIFA’s criteria on caps and age (the 2020 amendments allow one-time switches under specific conditions, e.g., if they played in ≤3 competitive matches before turning 21).
________________________________________
5️⃣ Residency Must Be Continuous
Breaks in residence (e.g., leaving the country for long periods) can reset the 5-year clock unless justified (like playing abroad while under contract to a club in the country).
________________________________________
6️⃣ Documentation
The national association must provide FIFA with:
• Proof of nationality,
• Proof of continuous residence (if needed),
• Birth certificates of parents/grandparents (if using family ties).

FIFA verifies eligibility before the player can appear in an official match.
________________________________________
In short:

A naturalized player with no family connection to a country must live there for five straight years after turning 18 to represent its national team. If they have a parent or grandparent from there, the 5-year rule doesn’t apply.

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QUOTE(RaZmaTaZ @ Sep 27 2025, 11:41 AM)
No need to read up, just ask AI

FIFA’s rules on the eligibility of naturalized players are governed mainly by Articles 5–8 of the FIFA Statutes and Regulations Governing the Application of the Statutes. The key points are:
________________________________________
1️⃣ Basic Principle – Nationality Requirement
• A player must hold the nationality of the country they wish to represent.
• Having a passport is not automatically enough — the nationality must be recognized under the country’s laws.
________________________________________
2️⃣ Connection Requirement for Naturalized Players
If a player acquires a new nationality (naturalization) and has no family ties to the country (no parent or grandparent born there), they must meet additional residency requirements:
• Five years’ continuous residence in the country after turning 18.

This is the core FIFA rule for naturalized players (Article 7).
________________________________________
3️⃣ Family Ties Exception
If a player’s biological parent or grandparent was born in the country, or if the player themselves was born there, they can represent the country without the 5-year residency requirement (Articles 5–6).
________________________________________
4️⃣ Change of Association
If a player already played for another national team, switching to a new one is only allowed if:
• They had the nationality of the new country at the time of their first appearance for the old country; and
• They meet FIFA’s criteria on caps and age (the 2020 amendments allow one-time switches under specific conditions, e.g., if they played in ≤3 competitive matches before turning 21).
________________________________________
5️⃣ Residency Must Be Continuous
Breaks in residence (e.g., leaving the country for long periods) can reset the 5-year clock unless justified (like playing abroad while under contract to a club in the country).
________________________________________
6️⃣ Documentation
The national association must provide FIFA with:
• Proof of nationality,
• Proof of continuous residence (if needed),
• Birth certificates of parents/grandparents (if using family ties).

FIFA verifies eligibility before the player can appear in an official match.
________________________________________
In short:

A naturalized player with no family connection to a country must live there for five straight years after turning 18 to represent its national team. If they have a parent or grandparent from there, the 5-year rule doesn’t apply.
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Its hard to argue with kekwa
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So obvious right? Too fast, too smooth, too easy, dah tau pakar short cut from down under ada buat sesuatu....now waiting for his IG story, but macam sudah krik-krik....

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I think the golems age was in the 80’s when we qualified for the Olympics but did not compete.  We have supermokh, Spider-Man arumugam, taukeh soh, santokh Singh, James, quah kim song who went on to play in bundesliga, etc.  after that, the rot starts … who can forget the Merdeka Stadium roar during Merdeka tournament?  Vs Korea then….
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Beside 1980, Malaysia qualified and play in 1972 Olympic Games but exit group stage with 1W2L
Malaysia won Bronze in 1974 Asian Games beat North Korea 2-1 in playoff match after 3-2 win over South Korea in last Round 2 group match
Those were the old days
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 27 2025, 11:56 AM)
Beside 1980, Malaysia qualified and play in 1972 Olympic Games but exit group stage with 1W2L
Malaysia won Bronze in 1974 Asian Games beat North Korea 2-1 in playoff match after 3-2 win over South Korea in last Round 2 group match
Those were the old days
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Yes, those days were golden years. And we were then known to be the mud players. If it rains, likely we will be fab to win….😎
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Kucing tido ka no meow2, 6 pages suda.

Also me like seeing people creatively skirting around not name dropping he-who-shall-not-be-named.

Edit: 7 pages

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No need to read up, just ask AI

FIFA’s rules on the eligibility of naturalized players are governed mainly by Articles 5–8 of the FIFA Statutes and Regulations Governing the Application of the Statutes. The key points are:
________________________________________
1️⃣ Basic Principle – Nationality Requirement
• A player must hold the nationality of the country they wish to represent.
• Having a passport is not automatically enough — the nationality must be recognized under the country’s laws.
________________________________________
2️⃣ Connection Requirement for Naturalized Players
If a player acquires a new nationality (naturalization) and has no family ties to the country (no parent or grandparent born there), they must meet additional residency requirements:
• Five years’ continuous residence in the country after turning 18.

This is the core FIFA rule for naturalized players (Article 7).
________________________________________
3️⃣ Family Ties Exception
If a player’s biological parent or grandparent was born in the country, or if the player themselves was born there, they can represent the country without the 5-year residency requirement (Articles 5–6).
________________________________________
4️⃣ Change of Association
If a player already played for another national team, switching to a new one is only allowed if:
• They had the nationality of the new country at the time of their first appearance for the old country; and
• They meet FIFA’s criteria on caps and age (the 2020 amendments allow one-time switches under specific conditions, e.g., if they played in ≤3 competitive matches before turning 21).
________________________________________
5️⃣ Residency Must Be Continuous
Breaks in residence (e.g., leaving the country for long periods) can reset the 5-year clock unless justified (like playing abroad while under contract to a club in the country).
________________________________________
6️⃣ Documentation
The national association must provide FIFA with:
• Proof of nationality,
• Proof of continuous residence (if needed),
• Birth certificates of parents/grandparents (if using family ties).

FIFA verifies eligibility before the player can appear in an official match.
________________________________________
In short:

A naturalized player with no family connection to a country must live there for five straight years after turning 18 to represent its national team. If they have a parent or grandparent from there, the 5-year rule doesn’t apply.
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"I got a phone call from my grandmother. She had been working on this (joining Malaysia) for a while. I had been talking about it for some time, but never managed to make it happen. Thank God, this year I was finally able to play. It was incredible."

https://www.nst.com.my/sports/football/2025...-malaysia-shirt

No proof this guy played for his former country at senior cap level and since his grandmother is from Sabah he doesn’t need to fulfill the 5 year rule.
Stubborn TS.

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kantoi sebab fifa check dengan jpn ke
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QUOTE(keybearer @ Sep 27 2025, 12:03 PM)
Kucing tido ka no meow2, 6 pages suda.

Also me like seeing people creatively skirting around not name dropping he-who-shall-not-be-named.

Edit: 7 pages
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mana boleh drop name casually
meow

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Naturalize player easier in indon vietnam thai coz ramai awek sana
But MY?i suspect alot of them got a hair from MY thus making them eligible to play..
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Sep 27 2025, 01:10 PM)
mana boleh drop name casually
some people in here got treated higher than god kot, sentuh sikit terus kena ketuk pintu  whistling.gif
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Meanwhile in FB tak cukup penjara kalau mau angkut semua, kek.

Even saw a new term, WalaJey. Lmao.
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QUOTE(keybearer @ Sep 27 2025, 12:03 PM)
Kucing tido ka no meow2, 6 pages suda.

Also me like seeing people creatively skirting around not name dropping he-who-shall-not-be-named.

Edit: 7 pages
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Biase pakai runner ok je, kenapa kali ni tak boleh?
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QUOTE(keybearer @ Sep 27 2025, 12:12 PM)
Meanwhile in FB tak cukup penjara kalau mau angkut semua, kek.

Even saw a new term, WalaJey. Lmao.
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Why all Latin white fucks playing dor Msia?
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Wanna scam like that, if you do 1-2 players at least not too obvious.

Ni tidak, terus hentam 7-8 ang moh in 1 match. Lu ingat FIFA lu punya bapak punya ke?? LOL
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Sep 27 2025, 12:18 PM)
Wanna scam like that, if you do 1-2 players at least not too obvious.

Ni tidak, terus hentam 7-8 ang moh in 1 match.  Lu ingat FIFA lu punya bapak punya ke?? LOL
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mana la tau boleh kantoi, ingatkan lepas jugak whistling.gif
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https://www.nst.com.my/sports/football/2025...-malaysia-shirt

No proof this guy played for his former country at senior cap level and since his grandmother is from Sabah he doesn’t need to fulfill the 5 year rule.
Stubborn TS.
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Ayam just said beside citizen/IC still need fulfil others criteria
Eg proof that grandma documentation legit
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 27 2025, 12:32 PM)
Siapa yg stubborn tu
Ayam just said beside citizen/IC still need fulfil others criteria
Eg proof that grandma documentation legit
X faham ke
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If can show grandma got Malaysian IC then should be enough already, you just stubborn.


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If can show grandma got Malaysian IC then should be enough already, you just stubborn.
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All the 7 players have Malaysian grandmas? Same grandma?
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All the 7 players have Malaysian grandmas? Same grandma?
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Ancestors kot, Parameswara yang hantar mereka pigi sana untuk berdagang dengan latin america.....

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All the 7 players have Malaysian grandmas? Same grandma?
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I just pick one only is enough. You believe JPN can be so negligent like they simply print IC without making sure first the player really got Malaysian parent or grandparent?


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If can show grandma got Malaysian IC then should be enough already, you just stubborn.
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I just pick one only is enough. You believe JPN can be so negligent like they simply print IC without making sure first the player really got Malaysian parent or grandparent?
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Errr...
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Vietnamese probably already scolding and angry. If grandma can make police report and show her IC then good. Can show to FIFA and Vietnamese side.


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Acid thrower still 404
NFA lagi
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So obvious right?   Too fast, too smooth, too easy, dah tau pakar short cut from down under ada buat sesuatu....now waiting for his IG story, but macam sudah krik-krik....
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Gonna quote myself here

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Put more effort train more Real local hero la. Short cut is not the solution.

I rather lose with pure local than a bunch of fake local.
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Which of the 7 fellas look an ounce of Malaysian lol
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i think this is the issue, no old doc. but new one... if granparents i understand, but like Jon Irazabal, whose mum allegedly from Sabah, should have
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All the 7 players have Malaysian grandmas? Same grandma?
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i think this is the issue, no old doc. but new one... if granparents i understand, but like Jon Irazabal, whose mum allegedly from Sabah, should have
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This part FAM need learn from Konoha
Just publish Names and Grandma ties
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I like this

Never like this fake national teams

Even tho can win in ASEAN match but what the point if only one or two looks local

How about doing it the right way with youth development

Look at Barcelona, almost bankrupt when Messi left but they invest heavily in youth development can have someone like lamine yamal
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This part FAM need learn from Konoha
Just publish Names and Grandma ties
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ya, Konoha did a good job with that, our 7samurai, till now also no see the connection, if got grandma face and names, sure less speculation...
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Sep 27 2025, 12:18 PM)
Wanna scam like that, if you do 1-2 players at least not too obvious.

Ni tidak, terus hentam 7-8 ang moh in 1 match.  Lu ingat FIFA lu punya bapak punya ke?? LOL
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 26 2025, 11:50 PM)
Depend on 10 days appeal result
IF FAIL - MAS 0-3 VN
MAS 0-3 SGP
MAS 0-3 PLE
MAS 0-3 CV
Bye Asia Cup and ranking 150 kot
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OMG this gonna be really embarassing if that happens laugh.gif
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How convincing is this.. project ic?
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Sep 27 2025, 03:29 PM)
I like this

Never like this fake national teams

Even tho can win in ASEAN match but what the point if only one or two looks local
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meh. this one talk cock nia. if fam can somehow get messi to put on our national colors for 1 official match, i bet everyone here will buy that jersey.

the only thing that matters is whether fam can prove their ties to the country. if fifa says we cheated, then it's on fifa to prove that. remember, it was fifa that allowed these 7 players to represent the country in the first place.

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Alot of them saying someone x puas ati wana racun fifa to down us but considering every 2 years v manage to find someone heritage esp woth their great grand is very funny
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Whole French team from Africa. Appa sarahan? Msia team from Latin countries, apa sarahan???
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QUOTE(spursfan @ Sep 27 2025, 04:19 PM)
meh. this one talk cock nia. if fam can somehow get messi to put on our national colors for 1 official match, i bet everyone here will buy that jersey.

the only thing that matters is whether fam can prove their ties to the country. if fifa says we cheated, then it's on fifa to prove that. remember, it was fifa that allowed these 7 players to represent the country in the first place.
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What’s so difficult about getting their Malaysian parent or grandparent to hold a press conference NOW to address the public and publish the IC? Could FIFA be sued over this?


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Whole French team from Africa. Appa sarahan? Msia team from Latin countries, apa sarahan???
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At least most of those African players stayed in France for at least 5 years and played for French club/national youth teams.

Ini tidak, tetibe 8-9 ang moh terus angkat masuk vs Vietnam.

Buta pun boleh nampak terus red flag lah....even if FIFA firstly approved, if ayam other country, I also sudah sus and report.
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What’s so difficult about getting their Malaysian parent or grandparent to hold a press conference NOW to address the public and publish the IC? Could FIFA be sued over this?
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yeah. fam doing some fishy stuff.

edit: maybe some of them may have kicked the bucket. i dunno, lol.

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At least most of those African players stayed in France for at least 5 years and played for French club/national youth teams.

Ini tidak, tetibe 8-9 ang moh terus angkat masuk vs Vietnam. 

Buta pun boleh nampak terus red flag lah....even if FIFA firstly approved, if ayam other country, I also sudah sus and report.
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those african french players most of them born in france, france used to colonize many african countries so its not surprising that many people from those colonies moved to france for a better life
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QUOTE(spursfan @ Sep 27 2025, 04:58 PM)
yeah. fam doing some fishy stuff.

edit: maybe some of them may have kicked the bucket. i dunno, lol.
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Haha good that you don’t read it literally as kucing kata jangan.

Btw FIFA needs the grandparent to be born in Malaysia. If the grandparent was born in Singapore then not eligible anymore even if holding a Malaysian IC.

And isn’t it FAM’s responsibility to first confirm and have proof that the grandparent was really born in Malaysia before applying to FIFA to get clearance? That’s not JPN’s responsibility since JPN doesn’t need to verify if the grandma was born in Malaysia or not.

If FAM can provide the proof then can sue FIFA?
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Sep 27 2025, 04:59 PM)
those african french players most of them born in france, france used to colonize many african countries so its not surprising that many people from those colonies moved to france for a better life
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Actually it's players born in France play for African countries thru parent's or grandparent's connection.
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Sep 27 2025, 04:59 PM)
those african french players most of them born in france, france used to colonize many african countries so its not surprising that many people from those colonies moved to france for a better life
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Actually it's players born in France play for African countries thru parent's or grandparent's connection.
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If FAM can provide the proof then can sue FIFA?
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Under what law/statute?
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Haha good that you don’t read it literally as kucing kata jangan.

Btw FIFA needs the grandparent to be born in Malaysia. If the grandparent was born in Singapore then not eligible anymore even if holding a Malaysian IC.

And isn’t it FAM’s responsibility to first confirm and have proof that the grandparent was really born in Malaysia before applying to FIFA to get clearance? That’s not JPN’s responsibility since JPN doesn’t need to verify if the grandma was born in Malaysia or not.

If FAM can provide the proof then can sue FIFA?
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well, fifa cleared it. now they u turn. gotta ask fifa they apalancau.gif lo.
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QUOTE(spursfan @ Sep 27 2025, 05:33 PM)
well, fifa cleared it. now they u turn. gotta ask fifa they apalancau.gif lo.
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FIFA must prove for example the grandma was not born in Malaysia. Is FIFA really so daring to issue a ban without this proof?


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JimbeamofNRT many risky comments in this thread that I wonder whether people dare to make if they have to use Digital ID?
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these Malaysians are easily duped and mudah lupa fellas

Long before that, in 2016.

THEY HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO TRACE US EVEN IN 2016

https://www.smasanews.com/index.php/semasa/...-di-tengah-laut

Hina TMJ, 'minah pendek' dicekup polis di tengah laut

Seorang nelayan ditahan di atas botnya semasa berada di perairan Tenggara, Pulau Tioman hari ini kerana dipercayai menghantar mesej berbaur jelik dan menghina Tunku Mahkota Johor Tunku Ismail Sultan Ibrahim melalui laman sosial Facebook pada Sabtu lepas.

Ketua Polis Johor Datuk Wan Ahmad Najmuddin Mohd berkata bertindak atas maklumat, polis menahan nelayan berusia 46 tahun itu yang dipercayai pemilik akaun ‘Minah Pendek’ pada kira-kira 11 pagi tadi.

Beliau berkata pihaknya menerima dua laporan polis pada 8.20 pada dan 9 pagi Sabtu lepas berikutan penghantaran mesej jelik, menghina dan menyakitkan hati Tunku Ismail.

“Suspek didapati memuat naik mesej itu menerusi akaun Facebook atas nama ‘Minah Pendek’. Ekoran itu, kami membuka dua kertas siasatan,” katanya dalam kenyataan di sini, hari ini.

Wan Ahmad Najmuddin berkata pihaknya turut merampas dua unit telefon bimbit bersama sim kad telefon bimbit daripada nelayan itu.

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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Sep 27 2025, 04:49 PM)
At least most of those African players stayed in France for at least 5 years and played for French club/national youth teams.

Ini tidak, tetibe 8-9 ang moh terus angkat masuk vs Vietnam. 

Buta pun boleh nampak terus red flag lah....even if FIFA firstly approved, if ayam other country, I also sudah sus and report.
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Really stupid. want to cheat also cheat smarter la. this one, like want to bring the whole squad into team, for sure kantoi. bodo. if they bring 2 player first, then next few month 2 player again until 7 player, for sure not kantoi. not obvious. this one so obvious. die die want to win against vietnam. now what we got. the whole world make a joke about us. so disgraceful.
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field these players already big malu in the beginning
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Wow! I've just finished reading all 9 pages. Okay, I agree with FIFA nod.gif
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9 pages done
Got another 9 days to count
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Ancestors kot, Parameswara yang hantar mereka pigi sana untuk berdagang dengan latin america.....
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He has a very valid point here!

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ational-striker

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Sep 27 2025, 09:45 PM)
He’s not wrong but we’ve been down that road before. I remember we used to laugh at Singapore when they started using naturalised players. But the joke’s on us when our home grown players can’t even do the basics during a match.

You can’t just say use home grown players when the talent pool is small AND the selection process is flawed. And who should be responsible for developing home grown players? The very same FAM who prefers to use short cuts now.
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Sep 27 2025, 09:55 PM)
He’s not wrong but we’ve been down that road before. I remember we used to laugh at Singapore when they started using naturalised players. But the joke’s on us when our home grown players can’t even do the basics during a match.

You can’t just say use home grown players when the talent pool is small AND the selection process is flawed. And who should be responsible for developing home grown players? The very same FAM who prefers to use short cuts now.
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Well, I do feel he is correct. We need to build internally and use foreign talent sparingly.
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Sep 27 2025, 10:10 PM)
Well, I do feel he is correct.  We need to build internally and use foreign talent sparingly.
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Well yes but we have not produced players like James Wong & others. And that was 4 to 5 decades ago! We were stuck around the 150-160 fifa ranking for many years using local players. Just ask TS.
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Sep 27 2025, 10:10 PM)
Well, I do feel he is correct.  We need to build internally and use foreign talent sparingly.
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Learn from Japan model
Put strong foreign players in clubs but focus on local academy
National team in 90s also had few naturalised Wagner Lopes, Alessandro Santos etc
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Sep 27 2025, 10:15 PM)
Well yes but we have not produced players like James Wong & others. And that was 4 to 5 decades ago! We were stuck around the 150-160 fifa ranking for many years using local players. Just ask TS.
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Yes and no
Thats why we had AMD but LTK effort thrown down the drain by some sohai politikus saying his salary mahai
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Sep 27 2025, 10:15 PM)
Well yes but we have not produced players like James Wong & others. And that was 4 to 5 decades ago! We were stuck around the 150-160 fifa ranking for many years using local players. Just ask TS.
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I know and that’s why I reminisced on the past. But to ‘buy’ foreign talent just to win… well, not the type of victory that I would be proud about. Don’t get me wrong. I am not saying we cannot get foreign talent but we must limit them as what James was advocating. I believe we have the talent but FAM is not doing the right thing to nurture them. They took the short cut and brought in foreign talent, which James highlighted that it does not makes our grassroots talents better.
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 27 2025, 10:16 PM)
Learn from Japan model
Put strong foreign players in clubs but focus on local academy
National team in 90s also had few naturalised Wagner Lopes, Alessandro Santos etc
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That’s what he is saying, in a nutshell. Look at JDT. They practically dominate the local league the past few years(dunno how many years but long enough). Has they actually developed any local talent that comes through the ranks? I do not follow local league but sure is good to know if they have any new talents that comes up through the ranks. I am using JDT cos they seems to have a huge number of FT and most of the FT are in our national team.
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That’s what he is saying, in a nutshell.  Look at JDT.  They practically dominate the local league the past few years(dunno how many years but long enough).  Has they actually developed any local talent that comes through the ranks?  I do not follow local league but sure is good to know if they have any new talents that comes up through the ranks.  I am using JDT cos they seems to have a huge number of FT and most of the FT are in our national team.
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But many more talents like Ramadhan Saifullah just unable to break or hold on senior rank due to more foreign players at certain position

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The Malaysian football players sanctioned by the International Federation of Association Football (Fifa) received their citizenship after a thorough vetting process, said Home Minister Saifuddin Nasution Ismail.

“In this case, we complied with everything (citizenship laws).

“When the decision was made, we followed due process according to existing regulations. That’s on our part,” he said in a video posted on Facebook.

Meanwhile, Saifuddin mentioned that when it comes to naturalised citizenship, an individual must apply under Article 19(1) of the Federal Constitution.

He said that under this clause, among the considerations given to the applicant is whether their parents, grandparents, or ancestors were from Malaysia.

“And the process of giving citizenship is very thorough. The chief secretary (of the Home Ministry) will chair the committee… we study every document submitted.

“As for Fifa’s decision against FAM, that is an issue between both bodies,” he added.

https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/756355

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The Malaysian football players sanctioned by the International Federation of Association Football (Fifa) received their citizenship after a thorough vetting process, said Home Minister Saifuddin Nasution Ismail.

“In this case, we complied with everything (citizenship laws).

“When the decision was made, we followed due process according to existing regulations. That’s on our part,” he said in a video posted on Facebook.

Meanwhile, Saifuddin mentioned that when it comes to naturalised citizenship, an individual must apply under Article 19(1) of the Federal Constitution.

He said that under this clause, among the considerations given to the applicant is whether their parents, grandparents, or ancestors were from Malaysia.

“And the process of giving citizenship is very thorough. The chief secretary (of the Home Ministry) will chair the committee… we study every document submitted.

“As for Fifa’s decision against FAM, that is an issue between both bodies,” he added.

https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/756355
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I think the footballers are not applying for naturalizing. If not wrong naturalizing required you stay here for many years. See many foreigners wife cannot get citizen after many years. There are just applying for FIFA requirement through heritage of parents or grandparents birth places.
But just back to the original sanction, FIFA's reason is falsified documents. Not a single reply from MY to refute the objection and produce evidence, instead beat around the bush... blaming FIFA, MACC investigate players blah blah blah and create more speculation.
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At least most of those African players stayed in France for at least 5 years and played for French club/national youth teams.

Ini tidak, tetibe 8-9 ang moh terus angkat masuk vs Vietnam. 

Buta pun boleh nampak terus red flag lah....even if FIFA firstly approved, if ayam other country, I also sudah sus and report.
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I think the footballers are not applying for naturalizing. If not wrong naturalizing required you stay here for many years. See many foreigners wife cannot get citizen after many years. There are just applying for FIFA requirement through heritage of parents or grandparents birth places.
But just back to the original sanction, FIFA's reason is falsified documents. Not a single reply from MY to refute the objection and produce evidence, instead beat around the bush...  blaming FIFA, MACC investigate players blah blah blah and create more speculation.
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As long as your grandma was born in Malaysia you can represent Malaysia even if both your parents are not local and you don’t need to fulfill the 5 year staying rule. The main thing is to prove your grandma was truly born here. But FIFA can only ban or claim falsification if they can prove your grandma was actually born outside Malaysia for example.

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I think the footballers are not applying for naturalizing. If not wrong naturalizing required you stay here for many years. See many foreigners wife cannot get citizen after many years. There are just applying for FIFA requirement through heritage of parents or grandparents birth places.
But just back to the original sanction, FIFA's reason is falsified documents. Not a single reply from MY to refute the objection and produce evidence, instead beat around the bush...  blaming FIFA, MACC investigate players blah blah blah and create more speculation.
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Dont dig the rabbit hole deeper. It may result in a worse penalty.

It may well expose all the holes in Kerajaans governance at an international level.

The world is watching Msias penchant for comedy.
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CHF350k fine
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This has Bosskur media blitz post PH taking over the gomen signature everywhere. Tmj dah murkah
He pointed out why fifa publicise this before the appeal has run its course
He is pissed why the uturn. This was approved by fifa in the past. Else they won't be even laying for MY.

I recall one day d the players. Loos mat salleh but can spkea better Malay then maybe type C DAP.
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FIFA Disciplinary Committee has imposed sanctions on the Football Association of Malaysia (FAM) and seven players – Gabriel Felipe Arrocha, Facundo Tomás Garcés, Rodrigo Julián Holgado, Imanol Javier Machuca, João Vitor Brandão Figueiredo, Jon Irazábal Iraurgui and Hector Alejandro Hevel Serrano – for breaches of article 22 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code (FDC) concerning forgery and falsification.


https://inside.fifa.com/legal/judicial-bodi...d-seven-players

There are 2 issues:

1) Forgery of docs

2) Players eligibilty


On (1), the argument that fifa approved it initially (FAMs main argument) does not hold water. Forgeries are usually discovered some time after the act especially after someone whistleblows.

On (2) - come on la. All 7 to 8 players datuk nenek moyang from Msia. Wow what a coincidence..anyone buys that apart from Msia?

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I think the footballers are not applying for naturalizing. If not wrong naturalizing required you stay here for many years. See many foreigners wife cannot get citizen after many years. There are just applying for FIFA requirement through heritage of parents or grandparents birth places.
But just back to the original sanction, FIFA's reason is falsified documents. Not a single reply from MY to refute the objection and produce evidence, instead beat around the bush...  blaming FIFA, MACC investigate players blah blah blah and create more speculation.
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The big guns all say FAM had followed the procedure, but avoid mentioning if the documents submitted were genuine.
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The big guns all say FAM had followed the procedure, but avoid mentioning if the documents submitted were genuine.
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My heart hope Malaysia win but my head tells me otherwise
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too bad Ronaldo grandparents not born in Malaysia
else we can qualify for EC

who cares about grassroots development

but of course we are not the first to try and exploit the loopholes

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https://inside.fifa.com/legal/judicial-bodi...d-seven-players

There are 2 issues:

1) Forgery of docs

2) Players eligibilty
On (1), the argument that fifa approved it initially (FAMs main argument) does not hold water. Forgeries are usually discovered some time after the act especially after someone whistleblows.

On (2) - come on la. All 7 to 8 players datuk nenek moyang from Msia. Wow what a coincidence..anyone buys that apart from Msia?
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so it's common that so many of them ended up in Europe and South America, etc

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Just pray for the good outcome

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Read another way, Point 3 basically means there is no hard and direct evidence.

Seriously, is it about winning? Or enjoying the game for what it is. What happened to honesty and fair play?

Anyone considered the feelings of local genuinely Msian players?

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Read another way, Point 3 basically means there is no hard and direct evidence.

Seriously, is it about winning? Or enjoying the game for what it is. What happened to honesty and fair play?

Anyone considered the feelings of local genuinely Msian players?
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The only way FIFA can justify it is if they can provide the hospital record showing that the grandma was born outside Malaysia or if that country can provide the original birth certificate. There might be a whistleblower but hard proof is still required. The onus is on FIFA to show that the document is not genuine such as through hospital records, primary school records or testimony from neighbors in another country. It’s the same as trying to prove you were born in PJ if your birth certificate is lost.
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The only way FIFA can justify it is if they can provide the hospital record showing that the grandma was born outside Malaysia or if that country can provide the original birth certificate. There might be a whistleblower but hard proof is still required. The onus is on FIFA to show that the document is not genuine such as through hospital records, primary school records or testimony from neighbors in another country. It’s the same as trying to prove you were born in PJ if your birth certificate is lost.
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Not sure fifa rules. Burden on proof is on Malaysia now base on article in fifa .com
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Read another way, Point 3 basically means there is no hard and direct evidence.

Seriously, is it about winning? Or enjoying the game for what it is. What happened to honesty and fair play?

Anyone considered the feelings of local genuinely Msian players?
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If I understand correctly, all these players mum or grandma brith cert are newly issued by Malaysia gomen because original was lost
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Not sure fifa rules. Burden on proof is on Malaysia now base on article in fifa .com
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During the FIFA committee appeal, yes, but in an external court FIFA must already show proof of why they disagree. For now you can still prove the grandma was born in Malaysia based on document from JPN. FIFA can still reject it without giving a reason just like certain courts here that sometimes reject appeals without justifying their decision which feels abusive.

But honestly it’s not hard to prove you were born here right. Your neighbors, your primary school records, your relatives all of them are strong proof. If you were born in PJ there would surely be plenty of evidence right.

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During the FIFA committee appeal, yes, but in an external court FIFA must already show proof of why they disagree. For now you can still prove the grandma was born in Malaysia based on document from JPN. FIFA can still reject it without giving a reason just like certain courts here that sometimes reject appeals without justifying their decision which feels abusive.

But honestly it’s not hard to prove you were born here right. Your neighbors, your primary school records, your relatives all of them are strong proof. If you were born in PJ there would surely be plenty of evidence right.
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Bring the case to the Courts and dig the rabbit hole deeper?

FiFA has already given its reason and justifcation - fraud. This is an international organisation with due process. They are not suci murni but these decisions need to be demonstratably fair with clear evidence to be accepted by the global soccer fraternity.

The examples u gave are secondary evidence at best and not strong, and contestable. But do you really want to do this? The integrity of Malaysias governance is at stake. You know what is going on here.
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Bring the case to the Courts and dig the rabbit hole deeper?

FiFA has already given its reason and justifcation - fraud.  This is an international organisation with due process. They are not suci murni but these decisions need to be demonstratably fair with clear evidence to be accepted by the global soccer fraternity.

The examples u gave are secondary evidence at best and not strong, and contestable. But do you really want to do this? The integrity of Malaysias governance is at stake. You know what is going on here.
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If the handwritten record is already lost then secondary evidence is the only way to prove it. JPN can issue a new birth certificate but FIFA can still reject it. But if you issue it without first verifying with secondary evidence it’s very dangerous because we don’t know what evidence FIFA is holding now. It’s like playing poker.
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During the FIFA committee appeal, yes, but in an external court FIFA must already show proof of why they disagree. For now you can still prove the grandma was born in Malaysia based on document from JPN. FIFA can still reject it without giving a reason just like certain courts here that sometimes reject appeals without justifying their decision which feels abusive.

But honestly it’s not hard to prove you were born here right. Your neighbors, your primary school records, your relatives all of them are strong proof. If you were born in PJ there would surely be plenty of evidence right.
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Don think is smart move to bring fifa to court, most likely will get banned Malaysia if do so. Even any interference from local gomen can get FAM banned by fifa.

Honestly, FAM can do what Indonesia do, show the lineage. At least can win people heart
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Bring the case to the Courts and dig the rabbit hole deeper?

FiFA has already given its reason and justifcation - fraud.  This is an international organisation with due process. They are not suci murni but these decisions need to be demonstratably fair with clear evidence to be accepted by the global soccer fraternity.

The examples u gave are secondary evidence at best and not strong, and contestable. But do you really want to do this? The integrity of Malaysias governance is at stake. You know what is going on here.
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What I see here is that FAM OR kuching found a loop hole in fifa naturalize players process and true to exlploit it.
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26. RECIDIVISM
1. Recidivism occurs if another offence of a similar nature and gravity is committed ...
2. Recidivism counts as an aggravating circumstance.
e.g. to cover up the first one.
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What I see here is that FAM OR kuching found a loop hole in fifa naturalize players process and true to exlploit it.
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Something like that.

But more of lax checks.

An analogy is airport checks la. Not all luggages screened or screened properly...

But now there is a whistleblower ..
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Don think is smart move to bring fifa to court, most likely will get banned Malaysia if do so. Even any interference from local gomen can get FAM banned by fifa.

Honestly, FAM can do what Indonesia do, show the lineage. At least can win people heart
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By now you should already know whether the grandma was born in Malaysia or not right? Its not hard to prove if you were born in PJ?

But look, the eagle is very angry and do you think they will just let it go? This is not a small issue ya.
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those that say singapore also done the same thing and use many foreign import players in their national squad, yes its true last time 8 or 9 out of their 11 players were import players, but they go through the proper way of naturalizing those players, those players played in their S-league and reside in SG for at least 5 years before getting naturalized into singaporean citizens
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Sep 28 2025, 02:52 PM)
Something like that.

But more of lax checks.

An analogy is airport checks la. Not all luggages screened or screened properly...

But now there is a whistleblower ..
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Actually what more shame is that JPN is cohorts if it’s guilty of manipulation and it’s effect country image as a whole
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those that say singapore also done the same thing and use many foreign import players in their national squad, yes its true last time 8 or 9 out of their 11 players were import players, but they go through the proper way of naturalizing those players, those players played in their S-league and reside in SG for at least 5 years before getting naturalized into singaporean citizens
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They do not have that many - majority is local especially right now.

In the past. it used to be 1 to 3 per nat team at any point

And why it is less than an eyesore is because their naturalized players are not first rate or second rate players - mostly unknown. And the reason is because crazy rich Sg will not spend money on these petty things.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sin...tside_Singapore

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If the handwritten record is already lost then secondary evidence is the only way to prove it. JPN can issue a new birth certificate but FIFA can still reject it. But if you issue it without first verifying with secondary evidence it’s very dangerous because we don’t know what evidence FIFA is holding now. It’s like playing poker.
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FIFA disciplinary committee is made up of international representatives and unlikely to make arbitrary decisions and without sound basis.
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While the decision of the FIFA Appeal Committee is "final and binding", should Chelsea not be satisfied with the outcome they can make a further appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) - something they are doing.


They won’t announce the decision on the hearing date. After hearing your explanation, they will just inform you on another date that your appeal is rejected. They don’t need to explain in detail.

Unlike an external court, they must show proof to justify the ban. It cannot be just an arbitrary reason like saying, “a whistleblower informed us fraud occurred and we cannot accept your proof.”



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During the FIFA committee appeal, yes, but in an external court FIFA must already show proof of why they disagree. For now you can still prove the grandma was born in Malaysia based on document from JPN. FIFA can still reject it without giving a reason just like certain courts here that sometimes reject appeals without justifying their decision which feels abusive.

But honestly it’s not hard to prove you were born here right. Your neighbors, your primary school records, your relatives all of them are strong proof. If you were born in PJ there would surely be plenty of evidence right.
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So FAM/JPN should furnish the proof that the grandmas were born here. But I can bet they will not go that far, there's hardly any details other than 'we followed the procedure'. The more they protest without furnishing evidence, the more it looks bad on them. If they do furnish evidence, the more worms will come out of the can.

Why some people get citizenship so easily? Why some other people with genuine lost documentation have such a hard time to get replacement document? Everyone is hoping to get these answered. FAM is stuck in a hard place, dig more and expose yourself or lose your dignity.
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So FAM/JPN should furnish the proof that the grandmas were born here.  But I can bet they will not go that far, there's hardly any details other than 'we followed the procedure'.  The more they protest without furnishing evidence, the more it looks bad on them.  If they do furnish evidence, the more worms will come out of the can.  

Why some people get citizenship so easily? Why some other people with genuine lost documentation have such a hard time to get replacement document?  Everyone is hoping to get these answered.  FAM is stuck in a hard place, dig more and expose yourself or lose your dignity.
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Corruption by officials has not been cited or yet.

FAM could literally open pandoras box if they are not careful and in doing so, Msia or FAM could in bigger trouble.

Btw, forgery is a penal code offence. Who will take the hit?

Latin America is calling this a global soccer scandal by Msia - going viral.

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Their supporters in socmed including KJ keep repeating "why Fifa approved initially?"

Maybe Fifa operate like LHDN, you submit tax form, approved and everything, doesn't mean LHDN wont korek balik if ada suspicious case years later....
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Sep 28 2025, 08:08 PM)
Their supporters in socmed including KJ keep repeating "why Fifa approved initially?"

Maybe Fifa operate like LHDN, you submit tax form, approved and everything, doesn't mean LHDN wont korek balik if ada suspicious case years later....
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Thats not a valid argument which obviates the offence of forgery however.


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MACC sudah jadi /k... ini baik jangan komen, miao....
FAM scandal falls outside our scope, says MACC

Meanwhile our hero Akmal dah keluar jaga maruah Negaraku?
This issue is more serious than bendera terbalik.
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Saw in some fb page, FAM admit wrong documentation submitted to FIFA by an administrative staff. Not sure is true or not.
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QUOTE(jaapers @ Sep 28 2025, 05:58 PM)
So FAM/JPN should furnish the proof that the grandmas were born here.  But I can bet they will not go that far, there's hardly any details other than 'we followed the procedure'.  The more they protest without furnishing evidence, the more it looks bad on them.  If they do furnish evidence, the more worms will come out of the can. 

Why some people get citizenship so easily? Why some other people with genuine lost documentation have such a hard time to get replacement document?  Everyone is hoping to get these answered.  FAM is stuck in a hard place, dig more and expose yourself or lose your dignity.
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https://www.thestar.com.my/sport/football/2...e-filing-appeal

This is already very serious. It seems FAM must break the can and force FIFA to show reasoning and sources of alleged document falsification.

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4. So in short

FIFA can hide the whistleblower’s identity in the judgement.

FIFA cannot reasonably hide the origin of the verification (the country or authority). At minimum, they must state:

> “Verification was received in writing from the competent civil authority of [Country X], confirming that Person Y was not born in Malaysia.”

If they refuse to reveal even the country until appeal, FAM could argue the first decision was procedurally defective because it gave no meaningful chance to contest.

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✅ Therefore:

Protecting the whistleblower = allowed.

Withholding the verifying country/authority until appeal = not sufficient under FIFA’s own due process standards.

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QUOTE(torres09 @ Sep 28 2025, 08:47 PM)
Saw in some fb page, FAM admit wrong documentation submitted to FIFA by an administrative staff. Not sure is true or not.
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QUOTE(torres09 @ Sep 28 2025, 08:47 PM)
Saw in some fb page, FAM admit wrong documentation submitted to FIFA by an administrative staff. Not sure is true or not.
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jeng jeng jeng
miao miao miao

📢 FAM ADMITS ERROR IN DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED TO FIFA 🇲🇾⚽️
The Football Association of Malaysia (FAM) has acknowledged a technical error in the documentation process submitted to FIFA, carried out by its administrative staff. 📝⚠️
FAM stressed that while it takes this matter seriously, the heritage players involved remain legitimate Malaysian citizens.
Currently, FAM is awaiting FIFA’s full written judgment before officially filing an appeal through the proper legal channels. ⚖️

and one of the comment by Gusti Patading:
So FAM says the error(s) occured 7 times in a row?


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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Sep 28 2025, 09:26 PM)

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Admission la tu

Those players should not have been included.

The admin error claim is possbly to salvage something out of this.

Dont think FIFA will buy it. Why would anyone? Tarak check ka? Players naturalized hours before Vietnam match..

Main thing - Msia deployed unallowable players and even won game/s with them.

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Sep 28 2025, 09:43 PM)
Admission la tu

Those players should not have been included.

The admin error claim is possbly to salvage something out of this.

Dont think FIFA will buy it. Why would anyone? Tarak check ka? Players naturalized hours before Vietnam match..

Main thing - Msia deployed unallowable players and even won game/s with them.
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If FAM can prove the grandma was really born in Malaysia, and they admit they sent the wrong document, then the situation changes a lot:

✅ Eligibility issue solved → If the grandma’s real Malaysian birth record is produced, the players’ eligibility becomes valid under FIFA rules.

⚖️ No falsification → Submitting a wrong document by mistake is not the same as forging. FAM can argue it was an administrative error, not intentional falsification.

📉 Penalty could be reduced → CAS may say the fine or suspension is disproportionate if the core eligibility was actually valid. The only fault would be negligence in submitting the wrong file.

⏳ Players’ ban → If eligibility is proven genuine, the players’ 12-month suspension might be overturned or shortened, since punishing them for an admin error is too harsh.


👉 In short: if FAM can show real proof the grandma was born in Malaysia, then FIFA’s case of “falsification” becomes very weak, and CAS could reverse or reduce both the bans and the fine.
Lol, this is only if FIFA doesn’t have further proof like a whistleblower with solid evidence or official records from another country.


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Kek, 7 orang technical error yang menguntungkan.
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QUOTE(mick84 @ Sep 28 2025, 09:30 PM)
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📢 FAM ADMITS ERROR IN DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED TO FIFA 🇲🇾⚽️
The Football Association of Malaysia (FAM) has acknowledged a technical error in the documentation process submitted to FIFA, carried out by its administrative staff. 📝⚠️
FAM stressed that while it takes this matter seriously, the heritage players involved remain legitimate Malaysian citizens.
Currently, FAM is awaiting FIFA’s full written judgment before officially filing an appeal through the proper legal channels. ⚖️

and one of the comment by Gusti Patading:
So FAM says the error(s) occured 7 times in a row?

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Memainkan wording pulak.. the real issue now is not whether the players are legitimate Malaysian citizens, but whether the process of neutralization is carried out properly and in accordance with FIFA's regulations.
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Lol, this is only if FIFA doesn’t have further proof like a whistleblower with solid evidence or official records from another country.
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We dont know that.

And they do not need 2 prove anything beyond discoverd fraudulent docments submitted- they are the governing body. Msia does and for all 7 players spanning Europe to Latin America which already sounds incredible to begin with, and pass FIFAs credibility threshold.

And the fact remains, Msia deployed unallowable players with fraudulent documents, admin error claim or otherwise.





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Memainkan wording pulak.. the real issue now is not whether the players are legitimate Malaysian citizens, but whether the process of neutralization is carried out properly and in accordance with FIFA's regulations.
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Very good wording indeed.

Important word is actually Birthplace.

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Haha yes 😅.

If the grandma was born in Malaysia, even if she left the next minute and never came back, her birthplace remains Malaysia on the record. Under FIFA rules, that’s enough — because eligibility is tied to birthplace, not how long she lived there or whether she stayed Malaysian citizen later.

So technically, even a “one-minute Malaysian birth” still qualifies!
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An insult to all Malaysians. Where is Akmal? Oh sorry, C not involved....
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QUOTE(mick84 @ Sep 28 2025, 09:30 PM)
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📢 FAM ADMITS ERROR IN DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED TO FIFA 🇲🇾⚽️
The Football Association of Malaysia (FAM) has acknowledged a technical error in the documentation process submitted to FIFA, carried out by its administrative staff. 📝⚠️
FAM stressed that while it takes this matter seriously, the heritage players involved remain legitimate Malaysian citizens.
Currently, FAM is awaiting FIFA’s full written judgment before officially filing an appeal through the proper legal channels. ⚖️

and one of the comment by Gusti Patading:
So FAM says the error(s) occured 7 times in a row?

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The error was on the entire batch or just one?
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The error was on the entire batch or just one?
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if only 1, FIFA should only penalty 1 player, not all.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Sep 28 2025, 10:51 PM)
The error was on the entire batch or just one?
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That’s the thing. If it’s just one then maybe just an oversight but all SEVEN?
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Similar case just for reference; not exactly same detail

Ecuador national RB Byron Castillo was born 1995 in a Colombia border town with Ecuador
Chile lodged complaint in 2022 and wanna Ecuador disqualified from World Cup to take the back door ticket

Key difference
Ecuador waited 5 years from his debut in U17 to senior call up

Key similarity
Ecuador submitted a birth registration with false info citing born in Ecuador

Key result
CAS ruled that Byron is legally Ecuador national but his birth registration has false birth info. Key decider is that Byron has not represented Colombia competitively and resided in Ecuador for 5 years. While Ecuador kept the ticket to WC, the national team was fined and deducted 3 points for next cycle WC qualifier.

Precedent impact for Malaysia appeal case?
A) Malaysia provide authentic birth certificate document support
Out of jail card but unlikely available at the first place
OR
B) Malaysia provide alternative birth registration document
CHF350k fine and 2k fine likely stay; money no problemo
All 5 results 4W1D remained
3 points deduction in next cycle AFC Qualifier
OR
C) CAS recognize players as Malaysian but did not fulfil 5 years rule, thus fine increased, results reversed to 0-3 losses and disqualified.

Fingers crossed at least get Option B
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Spanish club files complaint as FIFA bans Malaysia's naturalized player in 'global scandal'

Media outlets in Argentina, Chile, Colombia and Spain have reported extensively on the sanctions, describing the incident as a "global scandal."

The suspension affected not only the Malaysia national team but also multiple clubs across three continents. Alaves lost their key defender in La Liga, Velez must adjust their squad mid-season, and America de Cali face potential complications for Holgado, who is under contract until 2026.
https://e.vnexpress.net/news/sports/footbal...al-4944402.html
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If Indian and Chinese can become Malay, this is small matter. Not to worry....
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Staff error resulted 7players including 1 la liga player suspended. The stake is too high for such mistake. Yesterday still pointing fingers but not themselves.
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 29 2025, 12:30 AM)
Similar case just for reference; not exactly same detail

Ecuador national RB Byron Castillo was born 1995 in a Colombia border town with Ecuador
Chile lodged complaint in 2022 and wanna Ecuador disqualified from World Cup to take the back door ticket

Key difference
Ecuador waited 5 years from his debut in U17 to senior call up

Key similarity
Ecuador submitted a birth registration with false info citing born in Ecuador

Key result
CAS ruled that Byron is legally Ecuador national but his birth registration has false birth info. Key decider is that Byron has not represented Colombia competitively and resided in Ecuador for 5 years. While Ecuador kept the ticket to WC, the national team was fined and deducted 3 points for next cycle WC qualifier.

Precedent impact for Malaysia appeal case?
A) Malaysia provide authentic birth certificate document support
Out of jail card but unlikely available at the first place
OR
B) Malaysia provide alternative birth registration document
CHF350k fine and 2k fine likely stay; money no problemo
All 5 results 4W1D remained
3 points deduction in next cycle AFC Qualifier
OR
C) CAS recognize players as Malaysian but did not fulfil 5 years rule, thus fine increased, results reversed to 0-3 losses and disqualified.

Fingers crossed at least get Option B
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QUOTE(torres09 @ Sep 28 2025, 08:47 PM)
Saw in some fb page, FAM admit wrong documentation submitted to FIFA by an administrative staff. Not sure is true or not.
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Isn’t that always the case? Blunder by staff? Hahahaha….
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📢 FAM ADMITS ERROR IN DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED TO FIFA 🇲🇾⚽️
The Football Association of Malaysia (FAM) has acknowledged a technical error in the documentation process submitted to FIFA, carried out by its administrative staff. 📝⚠️
FAM stressed that while it takes this matter seriously, the heritage players involved remain legitimate Malaysian citizens.
Currently, FAM is awaiting FIFA’s full written judgment before officially filing an appeal through the proper legal channels. ⚖️

and one of the comment by Gusti Patading:
So FAM says the error(s) occured 7 times in a row?

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There you go! Hahahaha…. I think almost everyone knows who the culprit is but due to some circumstances, cannot mention name. So to cover ass, blame staff la.
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r nadeswaran wrote a good article on this in Mkini. And one of the comments is really ‘ interesting’. . There is another article in Mkini about the same issues as well. One of the comments were so direct, pinpointing who…


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QUOTE(fongsk @ Sep 29 2025, 07:17 AM)
r nadeswaran wrote a good article on this in Mkini.  And one of the comments is really ‘ interesting’. .  There is another article in Mkini about the same issues as well.  One of the comments were so direct, pinpointing who…
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This one
https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/756301

Many Indo and Viet bashing kuat kuat.. while because they can.
Even FAM Facebook page... Can spend your free time reading the comments there.

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Spanish club files complaint as FIFA bans Malaysia's naturalized player in 'global scandal'

Media outlets in Argentina, Chile, Colombia and Spain have reported extensively on the sanctions, describing the incident as a "global scandal."

The suspension affected not only the Malaysia national team but also multiple clubs across three continents. Alaves lost their key defender in La Liga, Velez must adjust their squad mid-season, and America de Cali face potential complications for Holgado, who is under contract until 2026.
https://e.vnexpress.net/news/sports/footbal...al-4944402.html
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so technically the BOY manage to make Msia name famos again in world footballing stages
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so technically the BOY manage to make Msia name famos again in world footballing stages
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Which boy? The boy whose name cannot be mentioned? 🧐
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r nadeswaran wrote a good article on this in Mkini.  And one of the comments is really ‘ interesting’. .  There is another article in Mkini about the same issues as well.  One of the comments were so direct, pinpointing who…
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Which boy?  The boy whose name cannot be mentioned? 🧐
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ya la... cannot mention names, even some of his filipion heritage players in his club also got question now,
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ya la... cannot mention names, even some of his filipion heritage players in his club also got question now,
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Really? Got articles to read on this? I read somewhere also that a former Filipino who played in our league made some comments. And then in that article, references were made to the 3 (was it 3?) Filipino players in our M league, which that former player was in some way ‘insinuating’ something…. Same article?
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Wow quite a development over the weekend. FAM staff work weekends?
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From my understanding
You have to prove ancestral lineage by birth proof
So Malaysia side claims that original handwritten birth cert cannot be found , so NRD Malaysia issued new one to them and using that claim lineage
FIFA claims that’s forgery

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Really?  Got articles to read on this?  I read somewhere also that a former Filipino who played in our league made some comments.  And then in that article, references were made to the 3 (was it 3?) Filipino players in our M league, which that former player was in some way ‘insinuating’ something…. Same article?
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from FB, just search

Johor Darul Ta'zim 🇲🇾must now explain if it's true that they registered several players with Filipino passports and data as their ASEAN quota (according to their Transfermarkt data, especially in Europe). If so, the The Philippine Football Federation 🇵🇭 must surely be aware of this,
so why were these players never called up to the Azkals squad?
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QUOTE(11c @ Sep 29 2025, 07:25 AM)
so technically the BOY manage to make Msia name famos again in world footballing stages
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Which boy?  The boy whose name cannot be mentioned? 🧐
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ya la... cannot mention names, even some of his filipion heritage players in his club also got question now,
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Kat negara sendiri buat apa pun boleh, rakyat tak berani persoal. But bawa perangai yg sama sampai ke luar? Kena londeh seluar la jawabnya
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Kat negara sendiri buat apa pun boleh, rakyat tak berani persoal.  But bawa perangai yg sama sampai ke luar?  Kena londeh seluar la jawabnya
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that boy thought he world class but actually in local scenes, he can do whatever he wanted.
i rembr many years ago, he go beat up Terreganu import players.
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Just need to provide evidence of them colonists, be it Portuguese, Spanish, The Netherlands, or British, if one of those naturalized player's forefather participated in the conquest of Malacca and fucuk with a local girl. Easy peasy...
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QUOTE(RicoT @ Sep 29 2025, 08:31 AM)
Just need to provide evidence of them colonists, be it Portuguese, Spanish, The Netherlands, or British, if one of those naturalized player's forefather participated in the conquest of Malacca and fucuk with a local girl. Easy peasy...
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portugese, holland & UK possible but spanish, argentinian macam x pernah jajah malaya
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QUOTE(RicoT @ Sep 29 2025, 08:31 AM)
Just need to provide evidence of them colonists, be it Portuguese, Spanish, The Netherlands, or British, if one of those naturalized player's forefather participated in the conquest of Malacca and fucuk with a local girl. Easy peasy...
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Lets be honest and transparent la.

We were caught red handed this time.

Do we want to risk another red card?

This time - Msia itself could be banned for a long time.


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QUOTE(RicoT @ Sep 29 2025, 08:31 AM)
Just need to provide evidence of them colonists, be it Portuguese, Spanish, The Netherlands, or British, if one of those naturalized player's forefather participated in the conquest of Malacca and fucuk with a local girl. Easy peasy...
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Remember Atuk claimed that the first person to round the world was a Malay?

Maybe when Magellen's ships were in Latin America, that guy fucuk a dozen of local women. Now his descendants are all over the continent 🤣
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Remember Atuk claimed that the first person to round the world was a Malay?

Maybe when Magellen's ships were in Latin America, that guy fucuk a dozen of local women. Now his descendants are all over the continent 🤣
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Not atok i think, is old story. doneclaim budaya kita

SIRI MISTERI: 'Panglima Awang' Melayu pertama keliling dunia
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Johor Darul Ta'zim 🇲🇾must now explain if it's true that they registered several players with Filipino passports and data as their ASEAN quota (according to their Transfermarkt data, especially in Europe). If so, the The Philippine Football Federation 🇵🇭 must surely be aware of this,
so why were these players never called up to the Azkals squad?
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#Philippines #JDT
Day 1 Indonesia
Day 2 Vietnam
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Who's next ? 🤭
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This part may be
1. Phillipines has big pool of heritage players to choose currently playing in Europe and US, though mostly lower tier league.
2. Some heritage players demand money to play.
3. Some heritage players refused call up.
4. Some local clubs unwilling to release player for non FIFA games
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Which boy?  The boy whose name cannot be mentioned? 🧐
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6 months into the role only, who else?

https://www.thestar.com.my/sport/football/2...fter-six-months
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As long as your grandma was born in Malaysia you can represent Malaysia even if both your parents are not local and you don’t need to fulfill the 5 year staying rule. The main thing is to prove your grandma was truly born here. But FIFA can only ban or claim falsification if they can prove your grandma was actually born outside Malaysia for example.
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what if it's step grandma? e.g. grandpa has many wives.


QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Sep 29 2025, 08:19 AM)
From my understanding
You have to prove ancestral lineage by birth proof
So Malaysia side claims that original handwritten birth cert cannot be found , so NRD Malaysia issued new one to them and using that claim lineage
FIFA claims that’s forgery
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not surprising for documents to be missing. malaya time documents leh. if non, duduk berpuluh tahun tak diberi ic pon ada.

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 29 2025, 09:57 AM)
This part may be
1. Phillipines has big pool of heritage players to choose currently playing in Europe and US, though mostly lower tier league.
2. Some heritage players demand money to play.
3. Some heritage players refused call up.
4. Some local clubs unwilling to release player for non FIFA games
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Could be… but now the news broke out, everyone is spectic
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Terbarai HM.
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QUOTE(spursfan @ Sep 29 2025, 10:09 AM)
what if it's step grandma? e.g. grandpa has many wives.
not surprising for documents to be missing. malaya time documents leh. if non, duduk berpuluh tahun tak diberi ic pon ada.
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Actually if msia succeeds this time, we will open new doors for naturalization of players all over the world…

Issue new birth certs to grandma

Our ideas is actually quite new. Nobody try befoee
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Sep 29 2025, 08:19 AM)
From my understanding
You have to prove ancestral lineage by birth proof
So Malaysia side claims that original handwritten birth cert cannot be found , so NRD Malaysia issued new one to them and using that claim lineage
FIFA claims that’s forgery
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Some people live here with Malaysian parent for 10-15 years, cannot get IC.

Others never step foot into the country, can't speak the language, can't sing the national anthem, can't recite rukun negara straight dapat IC.

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Sep 29 2025, 11:47 AM)


Some people live here with Malaysian parent for 10-15 years, cannot get IC.

Others never step foot into the country, can't speak the language, can't sing the national anthem, can't recite rukun negara straight dapat IC.

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macam mana nak dapat IC bahasa melayu pun tak boleh cakap, masuk mahkamah pun pakai intrepeter

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Sep 29 2025, 08:19 AM)
From my understanding
You have to prove ancestral lineage by birth proof
So Malaysia side claims that original handwritten birth cert cannot be found , so NRD Malaysia issued new one to them and using that claim lineage
FIFA claims that’s forgery
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QUOTE(spursfan @ Sep 29 2025, 10:09 AM)
what if it's step grandma? e.g. grandpa has many wives.
not surprising for documents to be missing. malaya time documents leh. if non, duduk berpuluh tahun tak diberi ic pon ada.
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Heh

1 person can kasi chance la.

7 person, all no original birth certificate, all missing document?

Summore its Argentina/Brazil, something that has little to do with Malaysia back then.

I mean...

Thats very hard to defend.
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Sep 29 2025, 12:08 PM)
Heh

1 person can kasi chance la.

7 person, all no original birth certificate, all missing document?

Summore its Argentina/Brazil, something that has little to do with Malaysia back then.

I mean...

Thats very hard to defend.
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hope they lose the case and FAM get banned lmao
you can do what you want locally but you can't get away with international ruling
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Sep 29 2025, 12:09 PM)
hope they lose the case and FAM get banned lmao
you can do what you want locally but you can't get away with international ruling
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I hope FAM get punished if they really cheated, but pity all that those actual Malaysian players that played so hard for HM but now that effort gone to waste.
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Sep 29 2025, 12:14 PM)
I hope FAM get punished if they really cheated, but pity all that those actual Malaysian players that played so hard for HM but now that effort gone to waste.
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What to do, we really needed this punishment otherwise ketirisan will keep happening and will actually kill local talents at faster rate
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QUOTE(spursfan @ Sep 29 2025, 10:09 AM)
what if it's step grandma? e.g. grandpa has many wives.
not surprising for documents to be missing. malaya time documents leh. if non, duduk berpuluh tahun tak diberi ic pon ada.
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It says biological grandparent so obviously step grandma doesn’t count. Usually a government official document is considered solid proof. For FIFA to allege forgery they must have strong evidence like an official letter from another country contradicting the document or other strong proof like VK Lingam video power abuse. It’s like a poker game now as we don’t know what evidence FIFA actually has. Saying technical error is not a strong counter.


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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Sep 29 2025, 12:30 PM)
It says biological grandparent so obviously step grandma  doesn’t count. Usually a government official document is considered solid proof. For FIFA to allege forgery they must have strong evidence like an official letter from another country contradicting the document or other strong proof like VK Lingam video power abuse. It’s like a poker game now as we don’t know what evidence FIFA actually has. Saying technical error is not a strong counter.
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well, we don't have the documents. so, it's all conjecture.
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FIFA:
forge documents - kena sanction
commit genocide, kill babies and force starve people on daily basis - ok je. nothing wrong with this.
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FIFA:
forge documents - kena sanction
commit genocide, kill babies and force starve people on daily basis - ok je. nothing wrong with this.
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last night, i heard so influencer say becuse msia support palestine that's why fifa ban...
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Sep 29 2025, 11:47 AM)


Some people live here with Malaysian parent for 10-15 years, cannot get IC.

Others never step foot into the country, can't speak the language, can't sing the national anthem, can't recite rukun negara straight dapat IC.

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Tapi setengah orang kata jika tak boleh cakap Bahasa Malaysia mesti balik negara asal...oh wai- whistling.gif
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Sep 29 2025, 12:08 PM)
Heh

1 person can kasi chance la.

7 person, all no original birth certificate, all missing document?

Summore its Argentina/Brazil, something that has little to do with Malaysia back then.

I mean...

Thats very hard to defend.
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Original birth cert of grandma grandpa mmg susah la
Kalo parent senang sikit
Dion cool Belgium little to do with Msia tapi mother orang Sarawak
So mungkin juga nenek mereka kahwin Pak Latin tak heran pun
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FAM identify technical error in submission process as appeal looms

https://www.thestar.com.my/sport/football/2...as-appeal-looms

So, FAM did something wrong? hmm.gif
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wah....malu sedunia.

mana geng geng mahakuasa ini bumi siapa? semua tak layak nak jadi sjkuad negara ka?
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Technical means what? Meaning loophole not big enough as you think it would?
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QUOTE(pandah @ Sep 29 2025, 02:24 PM)
Technical means what? Meaning loophole not big enough as you think it would?
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techincal mean bohong kena bongkar?
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QUOTE(karazure @ Sep 29 2025, 02:24 PM)
wah....malu sedunia.

mana geng geng mahakuasa ini bumi siapa? semua tak layak nak jadi sjkuad negara ka?
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worse, those players cannot play in their clubs also. Got some in La Liga kena ban 12 months, gg
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 29 2025, 02:17 PM)
Original birth cert of grandma grandpa mmg susah la
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Burden of proof is on Malaysia.

QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 29 2025, 02:17 PM)
Kalo parent senang sikit
Dion cool Belgium little to do with Msia tapi mother orang Sarawak
So mungkin juga nenek mereka kahwin Pak Latin tak heran pun
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Tak hairan if got 1 or even 2.

But 7 of them? Suspicious suspicious. And I remember TMJ said more is coming.

Got so many or not.

Let not even talk about hard proof.

Just show their Malaysia grandparents. Tunjuk la gambar ke apa. Nama pun tak kasi. Bangsa tak tau. Malay, Chinese, Indian, native Sabah/Sarawakian?


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Indon dengki lipot FIFA, all look malaysians what. Kek

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Ask them to sebut "Shah Alam" and see.
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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ Sep 29 2025, 02:33 PM)
Indon dengki lipot FIFA, all look malaysians what. Kek

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Ask them to sebut "Shah Alam" and see.
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ngl Gabriel got that malay look
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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ Sep 29 2025, 02:33 PM)
Indon dengki lipot FIFA, all look malaysians what. Kek

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Ask them to sebut "Shah Alam" and see.
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Lol, Malaysia might actually have a chance to enter the 2030 World Cup if we get more players like these. Could even beat Japan!


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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ Sep 29 2025, 02:33 PM)
Indon dengki lipot FIFA, all look malaysians what. Kek

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Ask them to sebut "Shah Alam" and see.
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So does Imanol.

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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Sep 29 2025, 03:06 PM)
So does Imanol.
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Imanol mother is Sabahan
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At least now not salah DAP. brows.gif
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if FIFA upholds the fines and malaysian taxpayers end up footing the bill, i hope some heads in FAM will roll...

but i doubt so because FAM already so defensive.... claim ditindas and NATO.. finally NFA by FAM..

btw, if our opponents doing the same, i am sure FAM will complain kau kau..

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Heritage Link
1) Imanol Machuca- Sabahan mother
2) Jon Irazabal - Sabahan mother
3) Joao Figueiredo - Rembau grandmother
4) Hector Hevel - Melaka grandfather
5) Facundo Garces- Grandmother
6) Rodrigo Holgado - Grandmother
7) Gabriel Palmero - Grandmother

No 1 & 2 can easily prove like Dion Cools kot
No 3 & 4 can trace kot with location known
No 5,6,7 grandma stories susah sikit kena usaha banyak
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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Sep 29 2025, 02:42 PM)
Lol, Malaysia might actually have a chance to enter the 2030 World Cup if we get more players like these. Could even beat Japan!
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Could even beat giant China 8-0

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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ Sep 29 2025, 02:33 PM)
Indon dengki lipot FIFA, all look malaysians what. Kek

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Ask them to sebut "Shah Alam" and see.
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Vietnam yang report I think, lepas kena bantai 0-4
Indon is just scapegoat
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now already found scapegoat no1, admin in FAM makes mistakes... dont think that boy will own up

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QUOTE(11c @ Sep 29 2025, 05:07 PM)
now already found scapegoat no1, admin in FAM makes mistakes... dont think that boy will own up
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Salahan yahodee
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Looks like the internet has called this incident Malaysias "Doctored Documents" scandal.

https://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/fifa-fam-do...-032245364.html
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https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/756499

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DAP MP demands FAM reveal 'technical errors' as taxpayers to foot fines

DAP national legal bureau chairperson Ramkarpal Singh urged the Football Association of Malaysia (FAM) to reveal the technical error which led to fines by the International Federation of Association Football (Fifa).

He said this is because the national football team is funded by taxpayers, and that public money will be used to pay Fifa’s fine of 350,000 Swiss francs (RM1.9 million) on FAM and 2,000 Swiss francs (RM10,500) on each “heritage” player.

“Whether or not a mere ‘technical error’ can result in...

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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Sep 29 2025, 02:34 PM)
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Hmm... no thanks.
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Should've said unite to demand integrity from all sides. This is asking to blindly follow regardless.

FAM says technicality, FIFA says forgery and fraud. Their claim is on what they have been given in hand. FAM better prove the truth and debunk the claim.
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QUOTE(Odinn @ Sep 29 2025, 07:17 PM)
Should've said unite to demand integrity from all sides. This is asking to blindly follow regardless.

FAM says technicality, FIFA says forgery and fraud. Their claim is on what they have been given in hand. FAM better prove the truth and debunk the claim.
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Technically a Forged error
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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Sep 29 2025, 02:34 PM)
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If only there is a same effort to bring back real Malaysian who could contribute towards nation building. whistling.gif
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i don't know FIFA rules, but so many foreigner looks player doesn't seem right. actually under what condition they can play for malaysia ah?
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QUOTE(RaZmaTaZ @ Sep 27 2025, 11:41 AM)
No need to read up, just ask AI

FIFA’s rules on the eligibility of naturalized players are governed mainly by Articles 5–8 of the FIFA Statutes and Regulations Governing the Application of the Statutes. The key points are:
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1️⃣ Basic Principle – Nationality Requirement
• A player must hold the nationality of the country they wish to represent.
• Having a passport is not automatically enough — the nationality must be recognized under the country’s laws.
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2️⃣ Connection Requirement for Naturalized Players
If a player acquires a new nationality (naturalization) and has no family ties to the country (no parent or grandparent born there), they must meet additional residency requirements:
• Five years’ continuous residence in the country after turning 18.

This is the core FIFA rule for naturalized players (Article 7).
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3️⃣ Family Ties Exception
If a player’s biological parent or grandparent was born in the country, or if the player themselves was born there, they can represent the country without the 5-year residency requirement (Articles 5–6).
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4️⃣ Change of Association
If a player already played for another national team, switching to a new one is only allowed if:
• They had the nationality of the new country at the time of their first appearance for the old country; and
• They meet FIFA’s criteria on caps and age (the 2020 amendments allow one-time switches under specific conditions, e.g., if they played in ≤3 competitive matches before turning 21).
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5️⃣ Residency Must Be Continuous
Breaks in residence (e.g., leaving the country for long periods) can reset the 5-year clock unless justified (like playing abroad while under contract to a club in the country).
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6️⃣ Documentation
The national association must provide FIFA with:
• Proof of nationality,
• Proof of continuous residence (if needed),
• Birth certificates of parents/grandparents (if using family ties).

FIFA verifies eligibility before the player can appear in an official match.
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In short:

A naturalized player with no family connection to a country must live there for five straight years after turning 18 to represent its national team. If they have a parent or grandparent from there, the 5-year rule doesn’t apply.
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QUOTE(commonsense @ Sep 29 2025, 08:13 PM)
i don't know FIFA rules, but so many foreigner looks player doesn't seem right. actually under what condition they can play for malaysia ah?
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see above
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QUOTE(sHsIkuA @ Sep 29 2025, 02:36 PM)
ngl Gabriel got that malay look
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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Sep 29 2025, 03:06 PM)
So does Imanol.
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you could say Ronaldo (R9, not CR7) also got Malay look.
many Latin Americans got native American blood.

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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Sep 29 2025, 02:34 PM)
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Lol the farking irony.....asking Malaysians to unite to protect dignity of the national team, and defend the 7 latin americans that represent us.....

Where is the pride...?

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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Sep 29 2025, 12:09 PM)
hope they lose the case and FAM get banned lmao
you can do what you want locally but you can't get away with international ruling
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Bumi ini milik siapa? Everyone born in this planet are naturalized bumiputera. Oh wai...
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FAM better come up with their best goreng version for the appeals.
Chances this verdict gets overturned is low because the reason is very serious.
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 29 2025, 08:17 PM)
see above
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I dont think it is that easy la as producing a new IC or doc.

If so, anyone can get through.

An investigation usually precedes a disciplinary outcome. It is likely that they have all the necessary information, including from countries where these players come from.

Malaysia risks being accused of fraud twice!
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Repeat post.

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QUOTE(pandah @ Sep 29 2025, 02:24 PM)
Technical means what? Meaning loophole not big enough as you think it would?
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Basically, yes. The "technical error" is that they thought that they could get away with it. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(pandah @ Sep 29 2025, 02:24 PM)
Technical means what? Meaning loophole not big enough as you think it would?
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Bersangka baik maybe lupa cop suruhanjaya sumpah
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Malaysia vs Laos

Probable XI
GK Syihan Hazmi
RB Dion Cools ©
CB Shahrul Saad
CB Dominic Tan
LB Corbin Ong
CM Nazmi Faiz
CM Nooa Laine
RW Arif Aiman
LW Faisal Halim
AM Endrick
CF Romel Morales

Without the 7s still solid kot
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 29 2025, 10:26 PM)
Malaysia vs Laos

Probable XI
GK Syihan Hazmi
RB Dion Cools ©
CB Shahrul Saad
CB Dominic Tan
LB Corbin Ong
CM Nazmi Faiz
CM Nooa Laine
RW Arif Aiman
LW Faisal Halim
AM Endrick
CF Romel Morales

Without the 7s still solid kot
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Not as good but this lineup not bad already
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 29 2025, 10:26 PM)
Malaysia vs Laos

Probable XI
GK Syihan Hazmi
RB Dion Cools ©
CB Shahrul Saad
CB Dominic Tan
LB Corbin Ong
CM Nazmi Faiz
CM Nooa Laine
RW Arif Aiman
LW Faisal Halim
AM Endrick
CF Romel Morales

Without the 7s still solid kot
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figeredo really good liao. really rugi if we lost him.

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QUOTE(11c @ Sep 29 2025, 11:45 PM)
Not as good but this lineup not bad already
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QUOTE(DS51 @ Sep 30 2025, 01:52 AM)
figeredo really good liao. really rugi if we lost him.
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Alternate Anak Jati XI
GK Syihan Hazmi
RB Azam Azmi
CB Shahrul Saad
CB Harith Haiqal
LB Ruventhiran
CM Afiq Fazail
CM Nazmi Faiz
RW Arif Aiman
LW Faisal Halim ©
AM Safawi Rasid
CF Haqimi Azim

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Alternate Anak Jati XI
GK Syihan Hazmi
RB Azam Azmi
CB Shahrul Saad
CB Harith Haiqal
LB Ruventhiran
CM Afiq Fazail
CM Nazmi Faiz
RW Arif Aiman
LW Faisal Halim ©
AM Safawi Rasid
CF Haqimi Azim

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Saifuddin:

Home Minister Saifuddin Nasution Ismail said on Saturday the process of granting citizenship to the seven players had complied with the Federal Constitution.

The granting of citizenship through naturalisation is provided for under Article 19(1) of the Constitution and involves a strict vetting process before any decision is made, he said, as reported by the New Straits Times (NST).

“A naturalisation case refers to a situation where an applicant, through their family lineage - whether father, mother, grandmother or ancestors - has ties or origins from Malaysia,” Saifuddin said, as quoted by NST.

Describing it as a “very thorough” process, he said his ministry examines all documents submitted to ensure they meet every requirement under the law.

Saifuddin also clarified the decision is under the purview of FIFA and FAM, and that the Home Ministry’s focus is “strictly on citizenship matters”.

TMJ:


Johor’s regent Tunku Ismail and Malaysia’s former sports minister Khairy Jamaluddin, meanwhile, questioned who had lodged the complaint and why FIFA reversed its earlier decision.

“FIFA has already approved (the naturalisation) before, so why has the decision changed now?,” Tunku Ismail said in a post on X on Saturday.

“What led to such a decision? Was there any external party that influenced FIFA’s decision?” he added.

“Who was in New York?”

It is unclear who he was referring to in his New York question.

The Johor crown prince, who owns Johor Darul Ta’zim, the club that three of the seven players – Figueiredo, Irazabal and Hevel – play for, also took issue with how FIFA had publicised the penalties before the appeals process had concluded.

“We are not afraid and we will not bow to those who are worried about the rise of Harimau Malaya,” Tunku Ismail said.

KJ:

Khairy, a Johor Darul Ta’zim board member, called the reversal “strange” in an Instagram post on Saturday.

“FIFA had already approved their eligibility through the proper process. That means the documents were vetted and due diligence was done. Why change their minds now,” said Khairy.

SOURCE: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/malays...players-5375151

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GK Khairul Fahmi
RB S.Kunanlan
CB Amirizwan Taj
CB Afif Amiruddin
LB Zubir Azmi
DM Junior Eldstal
CM Safiq Rahim ©
CM Nasir Basharudin
RW Wan Zack
LW Amri Yahya
CF Hazwan Bakri

Centre back is weak link
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 30 2025, 08:32 AM)
GK Khairul Fahmi
RB S.Kunanlan
CB Amirizwan Taj
CB Afif Amiruddin
LB Zubir Azmi
DM Junior Eldstal
CM Safiq Rahim ©
CM Nasir Basharudin
RF Wan Zack
LF Amri Yahya

Centre back is weak link
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 30 2025, 08:32 AM)
GK Khairul Fahmi
RB S.Kunanlan
CB Amirizwan Taj
CB Afif Amiruddin
LB Zubir Azmi
DM Junior Eldstal
CM Safiq Rahim ©
CM Nasir Basharudin
RF Wan Zack
LF Amri Yahya

Centre back is weak link
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I was in Dubai
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GK Khairul Fahmi
RB S.Kunanlan
CB Amirizwan Taj
CB Afif Amiruddin
LB Zubir Azmi
DM Junior Eldstal
CM Safiq Rahim ©
CM Nasir Basharudin
RF Wan Zack
LF Amri Yahya

Centre back is weak link
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Wow Khairul Fahmi

Lama tak dengar this name

I remember loooonnng time ago, this guy was the most popular player in the country. Said to be the best etc etc.

What happened to him? Recent years langsung didn't hear his name.
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kau patah balik 2010 ke  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(11c @ Sep 30 2025, 09:16 AM)
I was in Dubai
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Sep 30 2025, 09:28 AM)
Wow Khairul Fahmi

Lama tak dengar this name

I remember loooonnng time ago, this guy was the most popular player in the country. Said to be the best etc etc.

What happened to him? Recent years langsung didn't hear his name.
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Now at Sabah sifu to Damien Lim
Seangkatan Copot dan Safee
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Terbarai la. Bila next match? Senyap nanti stadium.
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QUOTE(giftfre @ Sep 30 2025, 10:02 AM)
Terbarai la. Bila next match? Senyap nanti stadium.
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9 oktober rasanya
di laos
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9 oktober rasanya
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Ni pun kena tunggu keputusan rayuan 7 Oct
Silap2 kena DQ terus cancel flight x yah pergi
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GK Khairul Fahmi
RB S.Kunanlan
CB Amirizwan Taj
CB Afif Amiruddin
LB Zubir Azmi
DM Junior Eldstal
CM Safiq Rahim ©
CM Nasir Basharudin
RW Wan Zack
LW Amri Yahya
CF Hazwan Bakri

Centre back is weak link
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oi..u forgot amar rohidan 🤣🤣. and where is lord fakhri 🤣🤣
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 29 2025, 10:26 PM)
Malaysia vs Laos

Probable XI
GK Syihan Hazmi
RB Dion Cools ©
CB Shahrul Saad
CB Dominic Tan
LB Corbin Ong
CM Nazmi Faiz
CM Nooa Laine
RW Arif Aiman
LW Faisal Halim
AM Endrick
CF Romel Morales

Without the 7s still solid kot
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Meanwhile, captain Dion Cools scored his first goal in J League...


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https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cvgq08g64e6o
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I hope FIFA ban9 Malaysia.
>10 year would be good.

LOL
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oi..u forgot amar rohidan 🤣🤣. and where is lord fakhri 🤣🤣
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Technical error juga
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JDT vs 🇯🇵Machida tonight without 3 stars

Probable XI
GK Zubiaurre
RB Eddy
CB Cristian
CB Park
LB Silva
CM Afiq ©
CM Mendez
RW Arif
LW Aketxe
CF Jairo
CF Bergson

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Meanwhile, captain Dion Cools scored his first goal in J League...


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not bad, to be able to play regularly in J league 1 is considered very good already, J league 1 is as good as english Championship league level (below EPL), he is our national team's highest level player now (if dont count the 7 banned players)
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 30 2025, 10:29 AM)
Ni pun kena tunggu keputusan rayuan 7 Oct
Silap2 kena DQ terus cancel flight x yah pergi
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if DQ, tukar flight to my name, i mahu naik flight free pergi cari player warisan baru untuk HM tongue.gif tongue.gif
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if DQ, tukar flight to my name, i mahu naik flight free pergi cari player warisan baru untuk HM  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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JDT kecewa dengan FAM

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...an-teknikal-fam

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JDT kecewa kesilapan teknikal FAM

Kelab itu berkata kesilapan itu menyebabkan tiga pemainnya yang menyarung jersi Harimau Malaya digantung.

Pemain JDT, Joao Figueiredo, Jon Irazabal dan Hector Hevel antara tujuh tonggak Harimau Malaya digantung oleh Fifa selama 12 bulan. (Gambar JDT)

PETALING JAYA: Johor Darul Ta’zim (JDT) kecewa dengan kesilapan teknikal dalam proses penghantaran dokumen oleh Persatuan Bolasepak Malaysia (FAM), menyebabkan penggantungan tiga pemainnya yang menyarung jersi Harimau Malaya.

“Kami berharap perkara ini dapat diselesaikan dengan segera dan pemain terbabit dapat kembali mewakili JDT dalam masa terdekat,” kata Ketua Pegawai Eksekutifnya Luis Garcia.

Kelmarin, FAM telah mengenal pasti wujud kesilapan teknikal dalam proses penyerahan dokumen tujuh pemain warisan yang dilakukan oleh kakitangan pentadbiran badan induk sukan itu.

Setiausaha Agungnya Noor Azman Rahman berkata pihaknya memandang serius perkara itu sambil menegaskan pemain terlibat ialah rakyat Malaysia yang sah.

Minggu lalu, Jawatankuasa Tatatertib Persekutuan Bolasepak Antarabangsa (Fifa) mengumumkan denda 350,000 franc Swiss (RM1.9 juta) kepada FAM kerana melanggar Artikel 22, yang berkaitan pemalsuan dokumen.

Sementara itu, tujuh pemain didenda 2,000 franc Swiss (RM11,000) setiap seorang dan digantung selama 12 bulan, berkuat kuasa serta-merta.

Pemain terbabit ialah Gabriel Felipe Arrocha, Facundo Tomas Garces, Rodrigo Julián Holgado, Imanol Javier Machuca, Joao Vitor Brandao Figueiredo, Jon Irazabal Iraurgui dan Hector Alejandro Hevel Serrano.

Figueiredo, Irazabal dan Hevel bermain dengan skuad Harimau Selatan yang kini menduduki tangga teratas dalam Liga Super.
Sudah nampak bayangan siapa bawah tayar bas.

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JDT kecewa dengan FAM

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...an-teknikal-fam
Sudah nampak bayangan siapa bawah tayar bas.
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JDT kecewa dengan FAM

Sudah nampak bayangan siapa bawah tayar bas.
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Kan ex presiden fam je resign bulan lepas

Lepas ni bagi JDT buat IC dulu 5 tahun baru fam panggil

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JDT v 🇯🇵Machida

Starting XI
GK 🇲🇾Syihan
CB Eddy
CB Cristian
CB Silva
CM 🇲🇾Afiq ©
CM Mendez
CM Parra
RW 🇲🇾Arif
LW Aribbas
CF Bergson
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not bad, to be able to play regularly in J league 1 is considered very good already, J league 1 is as good as english Championship league level (below EPL), he is our national team's highest level player now (if dont count the 7 banned players)
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This guy used to play for Brugge, one of the top teams in Belgium and I think even a few times in the Champions League.
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This guy used to play for Brugge, one of the top teams in Belgium and I think even a few times in the Champions League.
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lol typical mercenary - no money, no honey.
FAM really blind from instant success

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lol typical mercenary - no money, no honey.
FAM really blind from instant success
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lol typical mercenary - no money, no honey.
FAM really blind from instant success
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If you know the story, it's not FAM whistling.gif
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https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/756627

Eric Paulsen mendakwa penjelasan terbaru Menteri Dalam Negeri, Saifuddin Nasution Ismail, bahawa pemain-pemain tersebut layak di bawah Perkara 19 Perlembagaan Persekutuan, tidak dapat diterima dari segi undang-undang.

“Menteri dalam negeri mendakwa bahawa tujuh pemain yang dikatakan berketurunan ini telah dinaturalisasikan dengan betul melalui Perkara 19 Perlembagaan Persekutuan.

“Beliau menjelaskan bahawa di bawah peruntukan ini, mereka yang mempunyai hubungan dengan negara melalui ‘keturunan keluarga mereka, sama ada melalui bapa, ibu, datuk, nenek, atau nenek moyang… dengan hubungan, pernah tinggal di sini… berasal dari Malaysia’.
"Namun, konsep memperoleh kewarganegaraan melalui keturunan bagi mereka yang nenek moyangnya lahir atau menetap secara tetap di wilayah yang kini dikenali sebagai Malaysia, tidak termaktub dalam Perkara 19,” kata Eric kepada Malaysiakini.

Finally someone raise the issue. Although we already know that but dunno why our manteri and FAM keep insisting the procedure and legal.

Maybe they also confuse of naturalised player and heritage player and hence submitted the wrong documents.
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QUOTE(azack @ Oct 1 2025, 09:11 AM)
https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/756627

Eric Paulsen mendakwa penjelasan terbaru Menteri Dalam Negeri, Saifuddin Nasution Ismail, bahawa pemain-pemain tersebut layak di bawah Perkara 19 Perlembagaan Persekutuan, tidak dapat diterima dari segi undang-undang.

“Menteri dalam negeri mendakwa bahawa tujuh pemain yang dikatakan berketurunan ini telah dinaturalisasikan dengan betul melalui Perkara 19 Perlembagaan Persekutuan.

“Beliau menjelaskan bahawa di bawah peruntukan ini, mereka yang mempunyai hubungan dengan negara melalui ‘keturunan keluarga mereka, sama ada melalui bapa, ibu, datuk, nenek, atau nenek moyang… dengan hubungan, pernah tinggal di sini… berasal dari Malaysia’.
"Namun, konsep memperoleh kewarganegaraan melalui keturunan bagi mereka yang nenek moyangnya lahir atau menetap secara tetap di wilayah yang kini dikenali sebagai Malaysia, tidak termaktub dalam Perkara 19,” kata Eric kepada Malaysiakini.

Finally someone raise the issue. Although we already know that but dunno why our manteri and FAM keep insisting the procedure and legal.

Maybe they also confuse of naturalised player and heritage player and hence submitted the wrong documents.
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they trying to confuse the rakyat with Malaysia Law & FIFA Law, 2 different things, i guess all people trying to save that boy.

FAM dare not to post the names of the grandma, cause it will easily be dismissed as fraud if not true.
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If you know the story, it's not FAM whistling.gif
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biasalah siapa pun tahu itu..................meeeoowwwwwww

ok ok sorry cat
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if bolehland won this allegation, then other countries could just use the same trick to attract talents especially the rich saudi arab countries who going to host world up
think about the consequences !

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This guy used to play for Brugge, one of the top teams in Belgium and I think even a few times in the Champions League.
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No offense to Belgium, but these small countries league is just not as good as the top 5 (England, Germany, Italy, Spain, France).

Like you see other countries top players play in those leagues.

Of course, even these small countries league is probably still ahead of most Asian leagues.
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Oct 1 2025, 09:07 AM)
If you know the story, it's not FAM whistling.gif
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Oct 1 2025, 09:23 AM)
biasalah siapa pun tahu itu..................meeeoowwwwwww

ok ok sorry cat
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QUOTE(nazq @ Oct 1 2025, 09:32 AM)
Ngl seeing that guy kena bash berjemaah by SEA football fans in Twitter is pretty hilarious
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Since we cannot do that here, they will give him and his followers the harsh truth.

QUOTE(gamehype @ Oct 1 2025, 09:33 AM)
If really Malaysia kena sanctioned, I want to see, will people (especially the ultras) dare or not to criticize / speak the truth.
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If Malaysia kena sanction, people will move to JDT next because this is totally not the first time they did this whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Oct 1 2025, 09:41 AM)
Since we cannot do that here, they will give him and his followers the harsh truth.
If Malaysia kena sanction, people will move to JDT next because this is totally not the first time they did this whistling.gif
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But will Malaysians actually sound him (you all know who I am talking about la).

This is what I want to know.

If no, then Malaysia really GG la.
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kesian. First dey try to play the narrative got others sabotage then kena backlash from all. Then said got kesalahan teknikal lmao. Now seems rike wan say by malaysia law everything is done lawfully only fifa law tak lepas. Ofcos lar fifa statute is the highest if wan play football
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Oct 1 2025, 09:51 AM)
But will Malaysians actually sound him (you all know who I am talking about la).

This is what I want to know.

If no, then Malaysia really GG la.
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Sound but in "sopan" way kot, lebih lebih nanti kena tangkap
You know I know la, this is Malaysia we are talking about
Helang dipuja, pipit disisihkan
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Oct 1 2025, 09:30 AM)
No offense to Belgium, but these small countries league is just not as good as the top 5 (England, Germany, Italy, Spain, France).

Like you see other countries top players play in those leagues.

Of course, even these small countries league is probably still ahead of most Asian leagues.
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QUOTE(11c @ Oct 1 2025, 09:15 AM)
they trying to confuse the rakyat with Malaysia Law & FIFA Law, 2 different things, i guess all people trying to save that boy.

FAM dare not to post the names of the grandma, cause it will easily be dismissed as fraud if not true.
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(2) Subject to Clause (9), the Federal Government may, in
such special circumstances as it thinks fit, upon application made
by any person of or over the age of twenty-one years who is not
a citizen, grant a certificate of naturalization to that person


Eric is wrong because the Constitution clearly says “special circumstances.” This means that even if the residency rule is not fulfilled the gomen can still decide to give citizenship. The real issue with FIFA rules is different as FIFA require the grandma to be born in Malaysia.

The main issue is grandma must be born in Malaysia. A digital copy is okay but maybe FIFA has some other contradicting proof about grandma birthplace. I doubt FIFA would dare to ban without solid proof. Just suspicion or hearsay is not enough.



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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Oct 1 2025, 10:33 AM)
Eric is wrong because the Constitution clearly says “special circumstances.” This means that even if the residency rule is not fulfilled the gomen can still decide to give citizenship. The real issue with FIFA rules is different as FIFA require the grandma to be born in Malaysia.

The main issue is grandma must be born in Malaysia. A digital copy is okay but maybe FIFA has some other contradicting proof about grandma birthplace. I doubt FIFA would dare to ban without solid proof. Just suspicion or hearsay is not enough.
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I'm not lawyer, but there is criteria to be met.. including staying of ten yr. You read again that section or if my England is too poor
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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Oct 1 2025, 10:33 AM)
Eric is wrong because the Constitution clearly says “special circumstances.” This means that even if the residency rule is not fulfilled the gomen can still decide to give citizenship. The real issue with FIFA rules is different as FIFA require the grandma to be born in Malaysia.

The main issue is grandma must be born in Malaysia. A digital copy is okay but maybe FIFA has some other contradicting proof about grandma birthplace. I doubt FIFA would dare to ban without solid proof. Just suspicion or hearsay is not enough.
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Isn't the burden of proof on Malaysia?

Malaysia must give actual undeniable proof that the grandma or grandpa is born in Malaysia.

So where is the proof? If FIFA is being unreasonable here, FAM can show it to the whole world on twitter or something.

Show people they submited real proof but FIFA is the one that is unreasonable.

Until now, FAM don't dare show anything.

Even the player reaction also very telling

QUOTE(mick84 @ Oct 1 2025, 12:28 AM)
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If you were this player and you weren't guilty, why would you remove the Malaysian flag? Won't you try to defend yourself? This one no. He remove the Malaysian flag.

FAM won't reveal the actual proof. Players chickened out, don't dare to defend themself.


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QUOTE(azack @ Oct 1 2025, 10:53 AM)
I'm not lawyer, but there is criteria to be met.. including staying of ten yr. You read again that section or if my England is too poor
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Not exclusively. There is a special ministerial level provision that allow a person to become a citizen under that special provision. We have been doing it for a while now especially for sports. Remember China born walker that become Malaysian? That was a very long time ago.
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Oct 1 2025, 10:51 AM)
But will Malaysians actually sound him (you all know who I am talking about la).

This is what I want to know.

If no, then Malaysia really GG la.
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Sound but in "sopan" way kot, lebih lebih nanti kena tangkap
You know I know la, this is Malaysia we are talking about
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Oct 1 2025, 10:56 AM)


Even the player reaction also very telling
If you were this player and you weren't guilty, why would you remove the Malaysian flag? Won't you try to defend yourself? This one no. He remove the Malaysian flag.


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As far as i recall
FG posted Malaysia flag in his 9-Sep IG post for debut game
The post is still there..

The spain flag memang at his main profile kot
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Oct 1 2025, 09:33 AM)
If really Malaysia kena sanctioned, I want to see, will people (especially the ultras) dare or not to criticize / speak the truth.
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ultras...LOL
they used to be an independent group
but now when someone or some group pour money to them,
terus jadi macam ahli politik.

i remember 10 or 15 years ago they gila gila condemn FAM
siap naik banner FAM bangsat la, FAM sakau la, FAM itu FAM ini

now jadi ekor harimau more like ekor kucing liao
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ultras...LOL
they used to be an independent group
but now when someone or some group pour money to them,
terus jadi macam ahli politik.

i remember 10 or 15 years ago they gila gila condemn FAM
siap naik banner FAM bangsat la, FAM sakau la, FAM itu FAM ini

now jadi ekor harimau more like ekor kucing liao
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FAM bangsat days were during the time when we got beaten 10-0 or something like that. Continuous losses, no good result. Memang la kena.

Then recent years, Malaysia doing quite well (compared to FAM bangsat days), so no more complaining lo. Ok la that fair la.

But if let say Malaysia really kena banned, then how?

If they keep quiet, then Malaysia GG
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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Oct 1 2025, 10:33 AM)
Eric is wrong because the Constitution clearly says “special circumstances.” This means that even if the residency rule is not fulfilled the gomen can still decide to give citizenship. The real issue with FIFA rules is different as FIFA require the grandma to be born in Malaysia.

The main issue is grandma must be born in Malaysia. A digital copy is okay but maybe FIFA has some other contradicting proof about grandma birthplace. I doubt FIFA would dare to ban without solid proof. Just suspicion or hearsay is not enough.
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It's just how one intends to interpret the Constitution.

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(1) Subject to Clause (9), the Federal Government may, upon application made by any person of or over the age of twenty-one years who is not a citizen, grant a certificate of naturalization to that person if satisfied -

(a) that -

(i) he has resided in the Federation for the required periods and intends, if the certificate is granted, to do so permanently;

(ii) (Repealed).

(b) that he is of good character; and

© that he has an adequate knowledge of the Malay language.

(2) Subject to Clause (9), the Federal Government may, in such special circumstances as it thinks fit, upon application made by any person of or over the age of twenty-one years who is not a citizen, grant a certificate of naturalization to that person if satisfied -

(a) that he has resided in the Federation for the required periods and intends, if the certificate is granted, to do so permanently;

(b) that he is of good character; and

© that he has an adequate knowledge of the Malay language.

(3) The periods of residence in the Federation or the relevant part of it which are required for the grant of a certificate of naturalization are periods which amount in the aggregate to not less than ten years in the twelve years immediately preceding the date of the application for the certificate, and which include the twelve months immediately preceding that date.


So, it can be read that even under special circumstances, still need to satisfy that 3 criteria.

And lets face it, there are tons of stateless people in Malaysia that has lived here their entire lives yet still being ignored by government, but somehow they see fit to hand out citizenships to merceneries that can kick a ball well for a certain state football club.
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This guy used to play for Brugge, one of the top teams in Belgium and I think even a few times in the Champions League.
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he is much better than those import heritage players that play in 3rd 4th dividions of top european leagues haha
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Oct 1 2025, 11:34 AM)
It's just how one intends to interpret the Constitution.
So, it can be read that even under special circumstances, still need to satisfy that 3 criteria.

And lets face it, there are tons of stateless people in Malaysia that has lived here their entire lives yet still being ignored by government, but somehow they see fit to hand out citizenships to merceneries that can kick a ball well for a certain state football club.
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You need to read it as a whole that under special circumstances, the gomen can deem the conditions as already satisfied.

This means it’s up to the gomen to be satisfied as it does not mean the applicant must strictly satisfy every condition. That distinction is important.

For example if the rule says you must drink one glass of water and under special circumstances the gomen could consider drinking even half a glass as satisfying the requirement.

Even if the player has an IC and can access subsidized RON 95, FAM still must provide undisputed proof that his grandma was born in Malaysia.

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Eric is wrong because the Constitution clearly says “special circumstances.” This means that even if the residency rule is not fulfilled the gomen can still decide to give citizenship. The real issue with FIFA rules is different as FIFA require the grandma to be born in Malaysia.

The main issue is grandma must be born in Malaysia. A digital copy is okay but maybe FIFA has some other contradicting proof about grandma birthplace. I doubt FIFA would dare to ban without solid proof. Just suspicion or hearsay is not enough.
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Question:

Since there are 7 players being suspended, are we talking about seven grandmothers or just one? If just one, should that ONE player be suspended

If technical error, it is logical if just one player have mistakes in forms but seven?

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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Oct 1 2025, 09:07 AM)
If you know the story, it's not FAM whistling.gif
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Sorry I am not very familiar with football

Only with this case, I knew we have Latinos-Malaysian hybrids playing for the national team

Who are we talking about here?
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QUOTE(tokroni76 @ Oct 1 2025, 12:11 PM)
Sorry I am not very familiar with football

Only with this case, I knew we have Latinos-Malaysian hybrids  playing for the national team

Who are we talking about here?
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Just know that many times one entity keep sibuk with our football doing stuff behind the scene
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QUOTE(tokroni76 @ Oct 1 2025, 12:06 PM)
Question:

Since there are 7 players being suspended, are we talking  about seven grandmothers or just one? If just one, should that ONE player be suspended

If technical error, it is logical if just one player have mistakes in forms but seven?
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believe that for all 7, the original birth certificate of the grandmother is not available.

hence what is produced is an extract or something akin to certified true copy based on evidence from witness, etc

this is based on the response from JPN.

this should be the contention from FIFA.

How credible is the witness statement that support the issue of the extract of the birth certificate confirming the grandmother was born in Malaysia
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Really kemaluan yang amat besar if appeal not accepted


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QUOTE(gamehype @ Oct 1 2025, 10:56 AM)
Isn't the burden of proof on Malaysia?

Malaysia must give actual undeniable proof that the grandma or grandpa is born in Malaysia.

So where is the proof? If FIFA is being unreasonable here, FAM can show it to the whole world on twitter or something.

Show people they submited real proof but FIFA is the one that is unreasonable.

Until now, FAM don't dare show anything.

Even the player reaction also very telling
If you were this player and you weren't guilty, why would you remove the Malaysian flag? Won't you try to defend yourself? This one no. He remove the Malaysian flag.

FAM won't reveal the actual proof. Players chickened out, don't dare to defend themself.
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I’m wondering is it bcos he not able to represent his country and Malaysia is the option he has to play as a country player

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Oct 1 2025, 11:12 AM)
Chillax
As far as i recall
FG posted Malaysia flag in his 9-Sep IG post for debut game
The post is still there..

The spain flag memang at his main profile kot
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But has any of the 7 players said anything?

Why don't they defend themselves?

Ha. Not suspicious?
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I’m wondering is it bcos he not able to represent his country and Malaysia is the option he has to play as a country player
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PUTRAJAYA: Melalap assemblyman Peter Anthony has failed in his final appeal to set aside his conviction for forging a letter from the office of the Universiti Malaysia Sabah (UMS) vice-chancellor for fraudulent purposes 11 years ago.


Doubt that but kucing kata jangan

For forgery Peter must knew the letter was fake but still chose to send it. In this case Peter sent the forged letter to gain a benefit, a project. Was any benefit involved?

Takkan you cannot even verify from your family where your grandma was born?

macc responded quickly at first but eventually

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QUOTE(gamehype @ Oct 1 2025, 01:48 PM)
But has any of the 7 players said anything?

Why don't they defend themselves?

Ha. Not suspicious?
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All 7 have actually mentioned their heritage connection to media before; i had summarised in earlier post
Now in sanction issues; players better let the professionals do their jobs la..
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Oct 1 2025, 01:48 PM)
But has any of the 7 players said anything?

Why don't they defend themselves?

Ha. Not suspicious?
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Any good lawyer will advice you to shut up when legal proceedings are in place bro.

Najib straight come up and proclaim he innocent, means he's not guilty?
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Oct 1 2025, 02:05 PM)
Any good lawyer will advice you to shut up when legal proceedings are in place bro.

Najib straight come up and proclaim he innocent, means he's not guilty?
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Ok, I wait until the full process has completed. See they got say anything after that.
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Ok, I wait until the full process has completed. See they got say anything after that.
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I think they gonna lose lol.


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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Oct 1 2025, 02:14 PM)
I think they gonna lose lol.
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I also know 99% will lose.

But after lose, will they (the players) say anything?

After all, their name all tarnished. Maybe even kena banned from playing football.

If they are innocent sure will die die defend themselves.
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I think they gonna lose lol.
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FIFA unlikely reverse decision
CAS few rare case give some allowance but with penalties remain

Possible scenario ayam think ini macam kot:
CAS recognize the new nationality of the players but the documentation of ancestral link is subject to FIFA recognition.
Fine must pay according to FIFA ruling
Previous results remain as it is;as clearance was approved by FIFA
Players’ 12 months suspension only applicable to national team and further subject to 5 years resident ruling. Players may play for respective clubs subject to respective league nationality ruling.
3 points deduction for next cycle of Qualifier.
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jelly vietnam no budget buy pro-player
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They also got 2 Awang + 1 amdk
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FIFA unlikely reverse decision
CAS few rare case give some allowance but with penalties remain

Possible scenario ayam think ini macam kot:
CAS recognize the new nationality of the players but the documentation of ancestral link is subject to FIFA recognition.
Fine must pay according to FIFA ruling
Previous results remain as it is;as clearance was approved by FIFA
Players’ 12 months suspension only applicable to national team and further subject to 5 years resident ruling. Players may play for respective clubs subject to respective league nationality ruling.
3 points deduction for next cycle of Qualifier.
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seems like that we are not up to international level, memalukan... but this is most likely scenario
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 1 2025, 12:18 PM)
believe that for all 7, the original birth certificate of the grandmother is not available.

hence what is produced is an extract or something akin to certified true copy based on evidence from witness, etc

this is based on the response from JPN.

this should be the contention from FIFA.

How credible is the witness statement that support the issue of the extract of the birth certificate confirming the grandmother was born in Malaysia
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The arguments now is how can fifa say Malaysia government certification is fake….

Maybe they got the brith certificate of the grandma Argentina???
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Oct 1 2025, 03:44 PM)
They also got 2 Awang + 1 amdk
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American soldiers piapped vietmoi during the War, then brought them to the States.

Malaysia? I still can't imagine how was our connection to Latin America.
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American soldiers piapped vietmoi during the War, then brought them to the States.

Malaysia? I still can't imagine how was our connection to Latin America.
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220,000 Chinese in Argentina
Not a surprise if some grandpa grandma follow there to settle
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"His" die hard fans in socmed keep protekting by repeating "Tak bosan ke dulu team kita asyik kalah 10-0?"

But I want you to just close your eyes and imagine if this whole operation is by, lets say for example Hannah Yeoh, and the 7 heritage players are from China.

And its legal and done in proper way, approved by FIFA.

Pergh I cannot imagine the constant kecam on socmed by these people everyday if it happened..

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"His" die hard fans in socmed keep protekting by repeating "Tak bosan ke dulu team kita asyik kalah 10-0?"

But I want you to just close your eyes and imagine if this whole operation is by, lets say for example Hannah Yeoh, and the 7 heritage players are from China. 

And its legal and done in proper way, approved by FIFA. 

Pergh I cannot imagine the constant kecam on socmed by these people everyday if it happened..
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that boy quite a lot of supporters, no doubt he invested a lot in local football but this is next level
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Oct 1 2025, 05:22 PM)
"His" die hard fans in socmed keep protekting by repeating "Tak bosan ke dulu team kita asyik kalah 10-0?"

And its legal and done in proper way, approved by FIFA. 

Pergh I cannot imagine the constant kecam on socmed by these people everyday if it happened..
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QUOTE(11c @ Oct 1 2025, 05:24 PM)
that boy quite a lot of supporters, no doubt he invested a lot in local football but this is next level
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Heritage by parents is a right move
Heritage by grandparent a bit too far fetched
Perhaps need a bit patient by naturalisation 5 years such as Sumareh, Morales, Aguero and next Bergson
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Oct 1 2025, 07:00 PM)
Heritage by parents is a right move
Heritage by grandparent a bit too far fetched
Perhaps need a bit patient by naturalisation 5 years such as Sumareh, Morales, Aguero and next Bergson
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Grandparent pun ok.

Why farfetch?

As long as we got the real legal documents, I support.


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Grandparent pun ok.

Why farfetch?

As long as we got the real legal documents, I support.
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We excel at parent level
Kantoi at grandparent level
Guess need wait another generation to have proper papers
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The arguments now is how can fifa say Malaysia government certification is fake….

Maybe they got the brith certificate of the grandma Argentina???
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We don't even know what they gave to fifa. Some digital birth certificate?
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FIFA’s Disciplinary Committee began investigating. After reviewing the documents, interviewing sources, and conducting forensic checks, the Committee concluded that FAM had submitted doctored paperwork to push the players through the eligibility process. This was deemed a direct violation of Article 22 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code, which specifically covers forgery and falsification of documents.



https://madeinmalaysia.com.my/fam-forged-do...a-scandal-2025/
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FIFA unlikely reverse decision
CAS few rare case give some allowance but with penalties remain

Possible scenario ayam think ini macam kot:
CAS recognize the new nationality of the players but the documentation of ancestral link is subject to FIFA recognition.
Fine must pay according to FIFA ruling
Previous results remain as it is;as clearance was approved by FIFA
Players’ 12 months suspension only applicable to national team and further subject to 5 years resident ruling. Players may play for respective clubs subject to respective league nationality ruling.
3 points deduction for next cycle of Qualifier.
Kekwa
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think the players are banned from all football games cos they were not fielded in the JDT recent match


https://inside.fifa.com/legal/judicial-bodi...d-seven-players



The aforementioned players have been further sanctioned with a 12-month suspension from all football-related activities, effective from the date of notification of the decision.

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It is quite clear by now that FIFA conducted a thorough investigation.

Msia should think twice abour coming up with more of its "own evidence" to reverse the decision. The worry is that even the new evidence can be regarded as unreliable and fabricated.

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think the players are banned from all football games cos they were not fielded in the JDT recent match
https://inside.fifa.com/legal/judicial-bodi...d-seven-players
The aforementioned players have been further sanctioned with a 12-month suspension from all football-related activities, effective from the date of notification of the decision.
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Yes currently suspended from all football activities for 12 mths
But as I mentioned, CAS sometimes though rare may give allowances in certain circumstances
Eg CAS may recognize the players new nationalities and suspension only apply to national team under 5-years residence ruling. Still got chance to escape club level suspension after appeal.
Precedent case slightly similar but not exactly same
Ecuador Byron Castillo was born in Colombia
Chile request Ecuador to be disqualified from WC ticket
CAS ruled that new nationality of Castillo is recognized, hence Ecuador get to WC. But his birth information is deemed false; hence 3 point deduction in next WC qualifier cycle.
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Oct 1 2025, 10:09 PM)
It is quite clear by now that FIFA conducted a thorough investigation.

Msia should think twice abour coming up with more of its "own evidence" to reverse the decision. The worry is that even the new evidence can be regarded as unreliable and fabricated.
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FIFA must have strong proof like the grandma hospital, school, or official birth cert in argentine. Otherwise relying on suspicion or hearsay from whistleblower could see CAS overturn the ban.


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FIFA must have strong proof like the grandma hospital, school, or official birth cert in argentine. Otherwise relying on suspicion or hearsay from whistleblower could see CAS overturn the ban.
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Even dental records, burial records, etc.

And they interviewed i.e. took statements from "sources" who, amongst others, can be the players themselves..

Games up. Just accept the penalties and move on.

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Even dental records, burial records, etc.

And they interviewed i.e. took statements from "sources" who, amongst others, can be the players themselves..

Games up. Just accept the penalties and move on.
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Doubt the players will admit, it’s a criminal offence. That’s why they can only claim it was sent wrongly as a technical error konon.


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Doubt the players will admit, it’s a criminal offence. That’s why they can only claim it was sent wrongly as a technical error konon.
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Not really.

They can claim that they are just players and leave everything to their agents.

You just need to break down one. Use his statement against the rest then one ny one will admit esp. when threatened with even longer bans.


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Not really.

They can claim that they are just players and leave everything to their agents.

You just need to break down one. Use his statement against the rest then one ny one will admit esp. when threatened with even longer bans.
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I think FIFA already sent letters asking them to confirm whether all documents were genuine. The JPN letter is dated the 19th. It’s possible that one or a few were admitted but any such admission would likely leak during CAS proceedings. They can’t hide it for long unless FAM dont appeal to CAS.

So it’s better not to appeal further unless you are 100% certain that the grandma was really born in Malaysia.

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FAM MASIH MENUNGGU KEPUTUSAN PENGHAKIMAN PENUH FIFA

Persatuan Bolasepak Malaysia (FAM) ingin memaklumkan bahawa pada ketika ini tiada sebarang perkembangan baharu berhubung isu keputusan penggantungan oleh Persekutuan Bolasepak Antarabangsa (FIFA).

FAM masih menunggu dokumen penuh keputusan penghakiman daripada pihak FIFA. Proses rayuan hanya akan dimulakan sebaik sahaja dokumen penuh keputusan penghakiman tersebut diterima.

Sehubungan itu, pihak FAM tidak akan mengeluarkan sebarang kenyataan atau perkembangan lanjut sehingga proses rayuan selesai sepenuhnya.

Setiausaha Agung Persatuan Bolasepak Malaysia (FAM)

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These players were not fringe squad members. Several were high-caliber recruits from Europe and South America. For instance, Facundo Garcés was playing in Spain’s LaLiga with Alavés, bringing top-tier experience into the Malaysian setup. Meanwhile, Holgado and Figueiredo proved decisive by scoring against Vietnam.

By naming them, FIFA made clear that this was not a case of administrative oversight or unused players sitting on the bench. These athletes were central to Malaysia’s strategy, and their involvement directly changed the outcome of a competitive match.


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FAM MASIH MENUNGGU KEPUTUSAN PENGHAKIMAN PENUH FIFA

Persatuan Bolasepak Malaysia (FAM) ingin memaklumkan bahawa pada ketika ini tiada sebarang perkembangan baharu berhubung isu keputusan penggantungan oleh Persekutuan Bolasepak Antarabangsa (FIFA).

FAM masih menunggu dokumen penuh keputusan penghakiman daripada pihak FIFA. Proses rayuan hanya akan dimulakan sebaik sahaja dokumen penuh keputusan penghakiman tersebut diterima.

Sehubungan itu, pihak FAM tidak akan mengeluarkan sebarang kenyataan atau perkembangan lanjut sehingga proses rayuan selesai sepenuhnya.

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Wow! 23 pages already. I think I'm just gonna wait for FIFA's final verdict jer lah.

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FIFA must have strong proof like the grandma hospital, school, or official birth cert in argentine. Otherwise relying on suspicion or hearsay from whistleblower could see CAS overturn the ban.
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If FIFA needs evidence, it could search in the Lain American countries, where the players were born. It doesn't need to search here.
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FAM MASIH MENUNGGU KEPUTUSAN PENGHAKIMAN PENUH FIFA

Persatuan Bolasepak Malaysia (FAM) ingin memaklumkan bahawa pada ketika ini tiada sebarang perkembangan baharu berhubung isu keputusan penggantungan oleh Persekutuan Bolasepak Antarabangsa (FIFA).

FAM masih menunggu dokumen penuh keputusan penghakiman daripada pihak FIFA. Proses rayuan hanya akan dimulakan sebaik sahaja dokumen penuh keputusan penghakiman tersebut diterima.

Sehubungan itu, pihak FAM tidak akan mengeluarkan sebarang kenyataan atau perkembangan lanjut sehingga proses rayuan selesai sepenuhnya.

Setiausaha Agung Persatuan Bolasepak Malaysia (FAM)

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Waiting for what. They already admit technical false just resubmit again if the r confident. Or they just use this ten days update their own cv and find other job? Hannah Yeoh got so little power to FAM?
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Oct 1 2025, 09:33 AM)
If really Malaysia kena sanctioned, I want to see, will people (especially the ultras) dare or not to criticize / speak the truth.
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ultras...LOL
they used to be an independent group
but now when someone or some group pour money to them,
terus jadi macam ahli politik.

i remember 10 or 15 years ago they gila gila condemn FAM
siap naik banner FAM bangsat la, FAM sakau la, FAM itu FAM ini

now jadi ekor harimau more like ekor kucing liao
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your ultras former capo
lmao

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france whole squad also black, ok je.
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220,000 Chinese in Argentina
Not a surprise if some grandpa grandma follow there to settle
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Because a large number of chinese fled the Qing dynasty and went all over (including here)

But there was no historical reason for large numbers of Malays to flee the country

A significant number of Indonesians and Malays did join the Royal Navy actually, that's why there's a large Malay community in South Africa for example. But the numbers in truth are relatively few and many came back because there was little reason to flee. Malaya and Dutch East Indies were relatively peaceful colonies.
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your ultras former capo
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kalau betul la fifa nak ikut kata erick, fifa mesti ada bukti nak sanction fam
masalahnya sekarang fam sendiri mengaku ada kesilapan masa submit

apa lagi nak lawan? you appeal untuk betulkan je la
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Because a large number of chinese fled the Qing dynasty and went all over (including here)

But there was no historical reason for large numbers of Malays to flee the country


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Waiting for what. They already admit technical false just resubmit again if the r confident. Or they just use this ten days update their own cv and find other job? Hannah Yeoh got so little power to FAM?
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FIFA has strict rules that respective FA cannot be interfered by others.. eg Kuwait suspended 4 years due to political interference
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PETALING JAYA: Facundo Garces is the second mixed heritage player after Rodrigo Holgado to arrive in Malaysia and help resolve the documentation issue leading to his one-year FIFA ban.

According to Spanish media El Correo, the 26-year-old is in Malaysia to assist in the process of resolving the issue.

As JDT trios Figueiredo, Irazabal and Hevel are already here, the remaining players Gabriel Palmero and Imanol Machuca are expected over the weekend too.

Due date for appeal is on 6-Oct next Monday night.
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PETALING JAYA: Facundo Garces is the second mixed heritage player after Rodrigo Holgado to arrive in Malaysia and help resolve the documentation issue leading to his one-year FIFA ban.

According to Spanish media El Correo, the 26-year-old is in Malaysia to assist in the process of resolving the issue.

As JDT trios Figueiredo, Irazabal and Hevel are already here, the remaining players Gabriel Palmero and Imanol Machuca are expected over the weekend too.

Due date for appeal is on 6-Sep next Monday night.
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Oct 3 2025, 02:17 PM)
PETALING JAYA: Facundo Garces is the second mixed heritage player after Rodrigo Holgado to arrive in Malaysia and help resolve the documentation issue leading to his one-year FIFA ban.

According to Spanish media El Correo, the 26-year-old is in Malaysia to assist in the process of resolving the issue.

As JDT trios Figueiredo, Irazabal and Hevel are already here, the remaining players Gabriel Palmero and Imanol Machuca are expected over the weekend too.

Due date for appeal is on 6-Sep next Monday night.
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Hope they bring their grandma back to the land where they are born
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Oct 3 2025, 02:31 PM)
6 oct la
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2 Sabah, 1 rembau, 1 melaka, 3 lagi ntah
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Typo

Nanti ada la gambar warisan balik kampung
2 Sabah, 1 rembau, 1 melaka, 3 lagi ntah
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Oct 3 2025, 02:17 PM)
PETALING JAYA: Facundo Garces is the second mixed heritage player after Rodrigo Holgado to arrive in Malaysia and help resolve the documentation issue leading to his one-year FIFA ban.

According to Spanish media El Correo, the 26-year-old is in Malaysia to assist in the process of resolving the issue.

As JDT trios Figueiredo, Irazabal and Hevel are already here, the remaining players Gabriel Palmero and Imanol Machuca are expected over the weekend too.

Due date for appeal is on 6-Oct next Monday night.
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let HM facing Laos with pure malaysian blood

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I think Laos also got naturalized players….

Pure local born players don’t think can win
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Malaysia vs Laos
29-players call up without the 7s

Probable XI
GK Syihan Hazmi
RB Dion Cools ©
CB Shahrul Saad
CB Dominic Tan
LB Corbin Ong
CM Endrick dos Santos
CM Nooa Laine
RW Arif Aiman
LW Faisal Halim
AM Paulo Jouse
CF Romel Morales

Subs
GK Azri Ghani
GK Haziq Nazli
RB Quentin Cheng
RB Declan Lambert
RB Azam Azmi
CB Junior Eldstal
CB Harith Haiqal
CB Ubaidullah Shamsul
LB Daniel Ting
LB Richard Chin
CM Afiq Fazail
CM Nazmi Faiz
CM Sergio Aguero
CM Stuart Wilkin
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RW Ramadhan Saifullah
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Malaysia vs Laos
29-players call up without the 7s

Probable XI
GK Syihan Hazmi
RB Dion Cools ©
CB Shahrul Saad
CB Dominic Tan
LB Corbin Ong
CM Endrick dos Santos
CM Nooa Laine
RW Arif Aiman
LW Faisal Halim
AM Paulo Jouse
CF Romel Morales

Subs
GK Azri Ghani
GK Haziq Nazli
RB Quentin Cheng
RB Declan Lambert
RB Azam Azmi
CB Junior Eldstal
CB Harith Haiqal
CB Ubaidullah Shamsul
LB Daniel Ting
LB Richard Chin
CM Afiq Fazail
CM Nazmi Faiz
CM Sergio Aguero
CM Stuart Wilkin
RW Safawi Rasid
RW Ramadhan Saifullah
LW Aliff Izwan
CF Jordan Mintah
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Paulo Josue datang balik

If there was one good thing about the 7 imports, it's that Paulo don't play anymore.
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Paulo Josue datang balik

If there was one good thing about the 7 imports, it's that Paulo don't play anymore.
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At least is not Pauline
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Team A bt Vietnam 4-0
GK Syihan Hazmi 70
RCB Matthew Davies © 70
CB Facundo Garces 80
LCB Jon Irazabal 72
RWB Dion Cools 78
LWB Corbin Ong 72
CM Nooa Laine 70
CM Hector Hevel 70
RW Arif Aiman 78
LF Joao Figueiredo 80
CF Rodrigo Holgado 75

Team B vs Laos
GK Syihan Hazmi 70
RB Dion Cools © 80
CB Shahrul Saad 65
CB Dominic Tan 65
LB Corbin Ong 70
CM Endrick dos Santos 72
CM Nooa Laine 70
RW Arif Aiman 76
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for me club football can have any foreigners to play but when come to country football competition must have all Malaysian not rojak team.
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for me club football can have any foreigners to play but when come to country football competition must have all Malaysian not rojak team.
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I laugh at China after so long, throw so much money but still no team

But at least theirs is all local members not foreigner play for them, at most they get foreign coach saja

Our Malaysia punya lol 90% orang luar, 10% local jadi mascot

Memang no face
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I laugh at China after so long, throw so much money but still no team

But at least theirs is all local members not foreigner play for them, at most they get foreign coach saja

Our Malaysia punya lol 90% orang luar, 10% local jadi mascot

Memang no face
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I laugh at China after so long, throw so much money but still no team

But at least theirs is all local members not foreigner play for them, at most they get foreign coach saja

Our Malaysia punya lol 90% orang luar, 10% local jadi mascot

Memang no face
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When Qatar host 2022 World Cup with 9 naturalized players
2 Sudan, Iraq
1 France, Portugal, Egpyt, Ghana, Bahrain

And the local born got few Awang players too
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When Qatar host 2022 World Cup with 9 naturalized players
2 Sudan, Iraq
1 France, Portugal, Egpyt, Ghana, Bahrain

And the local born got few Awang players too
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Oh I see where we learn tactics from.

Maybe we need to throw more money at the sanction, pretty sure Qatar also throw, we just throw tak cukup saja

Sorry I not football fans, don't know much unless fellow ktard post here
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The game is not worth watching at the intl level if folks use gold farmers and off the shelf avatars which can be bought.

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Oh I see where we learn tactics from.

Maybe we need to throw more money at the sanction, pretty sure Qatar also throw, we just throw tak cukup saja

Sorry I not football fans, don't know much unless fellow ktard post here
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The game is not worth watching at the intl level if folks use gold farmers and  off the shelf avatars which can be bought.
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Interesting article on different approach.
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...rs-two-messages


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Interesting article on different approach. 
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...rs-two-messages
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My Lady Hannah Yeoh can do no wrong, she will bring light to this issues like her husband case, no other company better than her husband.

Give her time and patient, she will investigate and give us a satisfactory answer for her husband
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Interesting article on different approach. 
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...rs-two-messages
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Easier to say 1 player was a mistake. 7 players?

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Interesting article on different approach. 
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Grandma’s one can still claim there’s no handwritten birth cert but mother’s one also suddenly has none? Such a coincidence?


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Malaysia call up 15 naturalized players for Laos clashes in Asian Cup qualifiers
By Hieu Luong October 3, 2025 | 06:00 pm PT

Coach Peter Cklamovski has named a 29-man squad featuring 15 naturalized players, 10 mixed and five completely foreign, to prepare for Malaysia's two matches against Laos in the 2027 Asian Cup qualifiers this month.
https://e.vnexpress.net/news/sports/footbal...rs-4946993.html
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If like this pay to win, beter tjust close down and save the money lah
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If like this pay to win, beter tjust close down and save the money lah
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The Football Association of Malaysia (FAM) is not a government entity but a non-profit, non-governmental organization (NGO).
It serves as the national governing body for football in Malaysia, registered under the Sports Development Act 1997, and operates as the organizing body for the national football teams and leagues.

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more ban soon?
Malaysia call up 15 naturalized players for Laos clashes in Asian Cup qualifiers
By Hieu Luong   October 3, 2025 | 06:00 pm PT

Coach Peter Cklamovski has named a 29-man squad featuring 15 naturalized players, 10 mixed and five completely foreign, to prepare for Malaysia's two matches against Laos in the 2027 Asian Cup qualifiers this month.
https://e.vnexpress.net/news/sports/footbal...rs-4946993.html
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What ban? They are regular starters and have played in local league long before the whole issue started.

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KENYATAAN RASMI PERSATUAN BOLASEPAK MALAYSIA (FAM)

Persatuan Bolasepak Malaysia (FAM) ingin memaklumkan bahawa pihak FAM masih menunggu dokumen penuh keputusan penghakiman daripada Persekutuan Bolasepak Antarabangsa (FIFA).

Proses rayuan hanya dapat dimulakan sebaik sahaja dokumen penuh keputusan tersebut diterima secara rasmi.

Pasukan guaman FAM telah bersedia untuk mengambil sebarang tindakan lanjut sejurus dokumen berkenaan diperoleh.

Sebaik sahaja keputusan penuh diterima, pasukan guaman FAM akan mengemukakan rayuan dengan dokumen sokongan yang kukuh.

Setiausaha Agung Persatuan Bolasepak Malaysia (FAM)

Tonight is last day to request FIFA publish full detail in Legal site.
Meantime FAM CMS site kena hacked twice by trollers
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post Oct 7 2025, 01:30 AM

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So rodrigo hogaldo grandpa came from penang
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post Oct 7 2025, 01:39 AM

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As if FIFA is retarded and ignorant.

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so FIFA actually found the real birth certificates documents of the grandfathers of the 7 players in their respective countries (spain, holland, argentina etc)

like this how to win the court case? JPN ownself admit they dont have the proof that the 7 grandfathers were born in malaysia, but FIFA have solid proof documents that the 7 grandfathers were born outside of malaysia
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"Original birth certificates gathered by the Secretariat"

Adoooiiiii......
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QUOTE(PeopleOfPerlis @ Oct 7 2025, 01:29 AM)
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Check mate
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QUOTE(PeopleOfPerlis @ Oct 7 2025, 01:29 AM)
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Told ya.
Should investigate Jdt as well. This is not the first time.

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FIFA nak protek negara-negara Eropah la ni....mereka takut dengan kebangkitan kito!!!!!!

"Tak mungkin pemain antarabangsa nak memalsukan dokumen dan bunuh karier mereka sendiri!!"


Those fan boys kept protekting saying that NRD went through proper steps bla bla bla not realizing that what actually FIFA is trying say is that the whole of Malaysia, from FAM, to NRD is SUS and cannot be trusted! Tak kan macam tu pun tak paham??

Semua benda kito yg buat from dokumen and everything, of course semua nampak cantik....

This post has been edited by United Rulez: Oct 7 2025, 05:09 AM
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Full report link
https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/7fd28b5f50dea...ia_06102025.pdf

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