Some people live here with Malaysian parent for 10-15 years, cannot get IC.

Others never step foot into the country, can't speak the language, can't sing the national anthem, can't recite rukun negara straight dapat IC.

It's just how one intends to interpret the Constitution.



So, it can be read that even under special circumstances, still need to satisfy that 3 criteria.

And lets face it, there are tons of stateless people in Malaysia that has lived here their entire lives yet still being ignored by government, but somehow they see fit to hand out citizenships to merceneries that can kick a ball well for a certain state football club.

Any good lawyer will advice you to shut up when legal proceedings are in place bro.

Najib straight come up and proclaim he innocent, means he's not guilty?

I think they gonna lose lol.

You wanna question helang prince finding?

He's the one who pushed for them heh.

Whether he knew is different la, but this is more like the gomen no balls to tell him no.

political leadership can't do jack shit. If they intervene FIFA will ban MY even harder.

That's why FAM is so brazen, because they are an empire onto themselves.

j owner is not a politician - just influencer

pmx can try see how fast they get smacked.

Malaysian asking why politicians can't intervene in FAM tu don't know the rules, but you know better.

But, PMX should punish NRD for randomly giving citizenship based on fake documentation kan... kan?

You have to prove FAM did the fraud.

and FIFA does not have to adhere to the usual rule. If gomen intervenes, FIFA will simply ban FAM.

And then PAS will kutuk PMX for getting Malaysia banned.

Unless you can name a politician from FAM who instruct the crime to be done, it's not because of politics.

meow meow is not part of politics.

PMX can smack down NRD like i have posted.

So prove it lo. Not hard right.

Why can't helang just go to favela's across the latin america and offer those poor kids citizenship.

I'm sure even if 1% turn out to be Ronaldo untung dah.

You just have to cap them early then cannot change dah.

if got ronaldo can qualify one.

We got 7 not even ronaldo already can beat Vietnam 4-0.

The free kick was *chef kiss*

Their IC is valid what. This is now playing technicality.

The 7 players are now Malaysians, regardless if they are banned or not. They can come here and vote, they have same rights are you

Thats why it's technicality.

Malaysia claims it has verified the documentation - and issued them nationality based on it. That was sent to FIFA which approved it.

FIFA say they have evidence - but it is not relevant if CAS ruled otherwise, because they can only go based what was given to them - which is legitimate proof that the players are Malaysian based on documents issued by the government.

I said they will lose previously, and I still think they will. But it's a good challenge to the loophole.

It doesn't matter if Malaysia deems their linkage is legit and issues a legitimate form of nationality based on it. Law cases are specific - is the players considered Malaysian - yes or no based on legitimate certificate.

This currently is a yes - thats why TMJ is harping on the technicality of it. FIFA can produce a certificate - but they can't prove it is the ONLY one.

bro hcmalaya have summed up the potential argument.

It doesn't really matter unless FIFA can push the boundaries on what CAS can rule on. CAS cannot rule that the birth cert issued by Malaysia is fake - because it isn't. That will be how Malaysia argues it.

This is the court of law and as such, it is grounded by the argument presented and the scope of the matter at hand. FIFA can prove the grandparent has a dutch birth cert - but they can't prove he did not once had a Malaysian birth cert - or that he was never born in Malaysia. On the other hand, the Malaysian government has deemed whatever proof they presented warrants a Malaysian birth cert - and has issued a legitimate one.

How is the Dutch birth cert anymore legitimate than one issued by the government of Malaysia? Both are equally legitimate and lawfully issued.

If FIFA have another secondary evidence they would have produced it - but they have none and they don't need to anyway. The contention is limited to the issue of heritage - so now CAS' job is to deem IF the legitimate birth certificate issued by the Malaysian government is sufficient to prove they have Malaysian lineage. It is not CAS' job or boundaries to deem if Malaysia can or cannot issue birth certs based on the facts presented to the government.

If they have they would have produced it and totally kill the discussion.

FIFA rarely reverse their decision, and only reduces the punishment if any. But they have lost a fair few cases where they are forced to reverse their decisions.

Confirm FAM will lose fifa case unless meow influence is so big. But they might have a chance at the CAS level if they can keep the argument to specific semantics that the birth cert is based on what they submitted, which is a legit one from the government.

Then Fifa will have to go chance their rules.