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river.sand
post Sep 27 2025, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(derthvadar @ Sep 26 2025, 11:18 PM)
Not TMJ master plan? How can kantoi?
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Not salah Hanayo ke?
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post Sep 27 2025, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Sep 27 2025, 04:59 PM)
those african french players most of them born in france, france used to colonize many african countries so its not surprising that many people from those colonies moved to france for a better life
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Actually it's players born in France play for African countries thru parent's or grandparent's connection.
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post Sep 27 2025, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Sep 27 2025, 04:59 PM)
those african french players most of them born in france, france used to colonize many african countries so its not surprising that many people from those colonies moved to france for a better life
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Actually it's players born in France play for African countries thru parent's or grandparent's connection.
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post Sep 28 2025, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(azack @ Sep 28 2025, 04:18 AM)
I think the footballers are not applying for naturalizing. If not wrong naturalizing required you stay here for many years. See many foreigners wife cannot get citizen after many years. There are just applying for FIFA requirement through heritage of parents or grandparents birth places.
But just back to the original sanction, FIFA's reason is falsified documents. Not a single reply from MY to refute the objection and produce evidence, instead beat around the bush...  blaming FIFA, MACC investigate players blah blah blah and create more speculation.
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The big guns all say FAM had followed the procedure, but avoid mentioning if the documents submitted were genuine.
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post Sep 29 2025, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(RicoT @ Sep 29 2025, 08:31 AM)
Just need to provide evidence of them colonists, be it Portuguese, Spanish, The Netherlands, or British, if one of those naturalized player's forefather participated in the conquest of Malacca and fucuk with a local girl. Easy peasy...
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Remember Atuk claimed that the first person to round the world was a Malay?

Maybe when Magellen's ships were in Latin America, that guy fucuk a dozen of local women. Now his descendants are all over the continent 🤣
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post Sep 29 2025, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(RaZmaTaZ @ Sep 27 2025, 11:41 AM)
No need to read up, just ask AI

FIFA’s rules on the eligibility of naturalized players are governed mainly by Articles 5–8 of the FIFA Statutes and Regulations Governing the Application of the Statutes. The key points are:
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1️⃣ Basic Principle – Nationality Requirement
• A player must hold the nationality of the country they wish to represent.
• Having a passport is not automatically enough — the nationality must be recognized under the country’s laws.
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2️⃣ Connection Requirement for Naturalized Players
If a player acquires a new nationality (naturalization) and has no family ties to the country (no parent or grandparent born there), they must meet additional residency requirements:
• Five years’ continuous residence in the country after turning 18.

This is the core FIFA rule for naturalized players (Article 7).
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3️⃣ Family Ties Exception
If a player’s biological parent or grandparent was born in the country, or if the player themselves was born there, they can represent the country without the 5-year residency requirement (Articles 5–6).
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4️⃣ Change of Association
If a player already played for another national team, switching to a new one is only allowed if:
• They had the nationality of the new country at the time of their first appearance for the old country; and
• They meet FIFA’s criteria on caps and age (the 2020 amendments allow one-time switches under specific conditions, e.g., if they played in ≤3 competitive matches before turning 21).
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5️⃣ Residency Must Be Continuous
Breaks in residence (e.g., leaving the country for long periods) can reset the 5-year clock unless justified (like playing abroad while under contract to a club in the country).
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6️⃣ Documentation
The national association must provide FIFA with:
• Proof of nationality,
• Proof of continuous residence (if needed),
• Birth certificates of parents/grandparents (if using family ties).

FIFA verifies eligibility before the player can appear in an official match.
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In short:

A naturalized player with no family connection to a country must live there for five straight years after turning 18 to represent its national team. If they have a parent or grandparent from there, the 5-year rule doesn’t apply.
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QUOTE(commonsense @ Sep 29 2025, 08:13 PM)
i don't know FIFA rules, but so many foreigner looks player doesn't seem right. actually under what condition they can play for malaysia ah?
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see above
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post Sep 29 2025, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(sHsIkuA @ Sep 29 2025, 02:36 PM)
ngl Gabriel got that malay look
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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Sep 29 2025, 03:06 PM)
So does Imanol.
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you could say Ronaldo (R9, not CR7) also got Malay look.
many Latin Americans got native American blood.

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post Sep 30 2025, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Sep 29 2025, 10:26 PM)
Malaysia vs Laos

Probable XI
GK Syihan Hazmi
RB Dion Cools ©
CB Shahrul Saad
CB Dominic Tan
LB Corbin Ong
CM Nazmi Faiz
CM Nooa Laine
RW Arif Aiman
LW Faisal Halim
AM Endrick
CF Romel Morales

Without the 7s still solid kot
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Meanwhile, captain Dion Cools scored his first goal in J League...


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post Oct 1 2025, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Oct 1 2025, 03:44 PM)
They also got 2 Awang + 1 amdk
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American soldiers piapped vietmoi during the War, then brought them to the States.

Malaysia? I still can't imagine how was our connection to Latin America.
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post Oct 2 2025, 06:50 AM

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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Oct 1 2025, 10:21 PM)
FIFA must have strong proof like the grandma hospital, school, or official birth cert in argentine. Otherwise relying on suspicion or hearsay from whistleblower could see CAS overturn the ban.
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If FIFA needs evidence, it could search in the Lain American countries, where the players were born. It doesn't need to search here.
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post Oct 7 2025, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Oct 7 2025, 02:29 PM)
Just to be clear. Those players get citizenship or merely proof of ancestorship or PR then can play for MY?
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(1) citizenship
AND
(2a) heritage
OR
(2b) 5-year residence

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post Oct 7 2025, 03:48 PM

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FAM refutes FIFA's findings, says seven players did not knowingly use false documents
https://www.thestar.com.my/sport/football/2...false-documents


Basically, FAM indirectly admitted that the documents are fake laugh.gif
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post Oct 7 2025, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Oct 7 2025, 04:32 PM)
BIG 3 Hall of Shame in Malaysia Football

1. 1994 Match Fixing Scandal
    More than 100 players and officials were arrested for match fixing allegations during 1993-1994 season. 21 received life ban while another 84 received various restrictions but were pardoned in 2016. Damaged was done and the national football team had never recover from the glory days in the 80s with the world ranking drop from 75 in 1993 to 117 in 1995.

2. 2015 UAE 10-0 record trashing
    When Malaysia lifted the AFF Cup in 2010 plus double back to back SEA Games gold in 2009-2011 era, we thought the worst period was over. Hopes were rolling high but the sudden worst ever result at international level brought the team back down on earth. Beside the UAE drubbing; the war torn Palestine also trashed Malaysia 6-0 twice home and away!

3. 2025 Naturalization Scandal
    7 players were fined and banned 12 months over their ancestral birth place documentation scandal. New low!
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#1 was internal to Malaysia. Outside this country, nobody cared.

But this time, the whole world know doh.gif
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post Oct 7 2025, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(jaapers @ Oct 7 2025, 06:32 PM)
Actually, are there really any forged documents?  NRD already issued official birthcert to the 7 grandmas.  I would think the issue is that NRD did it using methods that FIFA and basically everyone else would not agree with.  Its still a valid document, as NRD has full authority to issue it as they please.
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If you were born in KL, can you change your birth place to Singapore?

NRD can't issue birth certificate to someone not born in Malaysia.
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post Oct 8 2025, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Oct 8 2025, 06:32 PM)
Apa lesson to be learned?
Must have intelligent and steadfast advisors. Not just Yes men.
Must learn to trust and heed the advise of advisors.
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Don't take short cut when it comes to developing the country's sports.
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post Oct 17 2025, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Oct 14 2025, 06:29 PM)
Malaysian Chow Chee Keung was AFC best goalkeeper for 5 times in 66-70 and was highest paid pro in HK league. His nickname Asian Steel Gate and Crazy Sword
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I remember he got a nickname called agile cat.

 

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