China Woman Illegally Hires Workers from Her Country to Renovate Her Home in Malaysia as Locals are “Inefficient”

A Chinese TikToker @豆总大马签证中心 recently admitted that it was not the right thing to do when some Chinese citizens took advantage of the free visa by working illegally in Malaysia during the 90-day period, but at the same time, she urged the Malaysian contractors to reflect on their inefficiency.

Dou Zong, who has been staying in Malaysia for a period of time, recently shared that a Chinese renovation team obtained a 30-day stay period through the Malaysia-China visa-free policy, and took advantage of this convenience to come to Malaysia to undertake projects, “defeating” local decoration companies with lower prices and faster speeds.

“The Chinese team could complete a project in 20 days, whereas the Malaysian team took about 2 months to finish the job.”

“Some of you Malaysian decorators claim that Chinese decorators are coming to Malaysia to take over the market, but why don’t you ask yourself why the Chinese can do it but you can’t?”

She also revealed that she had hired a Chinese decoration team to renovate her home, and the plumbing and electrical services they provided were “very good”, and called on Malaysian companies to learn from the Chinese’s efficiency and cost control.

The video, however, has been removed from her Douyin and Xiao Hong Shu (RedNote) accounts.

Regardless, what do you think of her take on this?

Money and time saved

I thought there is already a thread about this?

Sadly, yes this is happening not only in Malaysia but around the world. In Australia also a lot of contractors are also Chinese Boss in behind, able to provide faster, lower cost renovation compare to the locals.

Cheaper and faster?
Can share contacts ah ?

I know house reno by some contractors need to take 2-3 months even though everything need cash upfront.

When I bought my house and did my reno, I was expecting my contractors to focus everyday at my house, but what I got is that they'll go missing a few days, then, come back do a bit and then go missing again.

Cheaper and faster?
Can share contacts ah ?

I know house reno by some contractors need to take 2-3 months even though everything need cash upfront.

When I bought my house and did my reno, I was expecting my contractors to focus everyday at my house, but what I got is that they'll go missing a few days, then, come back do a bit and then go missing again.

U sure trust them to do wiring without following our local laws ? If fire happen and bomba investigate, say GG to your insurance claim lol

Cheaper and faster?
Can share contacts ah ?

I know house reno by some contractors need to take 2-3 months even though everything need cash upfront.

When I bought my house and did my reno, I was expecting my contractors to focus everyday at my house, but what I got is that they'll go missing a few days, then, come back do a bit and then go missing again.

illegal sure lower cost..

Simple pull wire from main DB is kacang putih la.

Cheaper and faster?
Can share contacts ah ?

I know house reno by some contractors need to take 2-3 months even though everything need cash upfront.

When I bought my house and did my reno, I was expecting my contractors to focus everyday at my house, but what I got is that they'll go missing a few days, then, come back do a bit and then go missing again.

Got meh ? Maybe ayam missed, can share ?

U sure trust them to do wiring without following our local laws ? If fire happen and bomba investigate, say GG to your insurance claim lol

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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5525748

household wiring just for lights, very hard to fuck up until catch fire.....

as long as not vietnam style that uses breadboards for literally eveyrthing.....

yes this is typical, because they do multiple projects at the same time , so do yours 1st week , 2nd week customer A, 3rd week customer C, 4th week Customer D, and then repeat.

Is it ? Tell that to TnB lol. If china workers use their cheap wiring which is not sirim approved, haha GG liao

Source : my cousin is in TnB

Always pay by stage/job completed eg finish your iron grilles, pay the agreed amount. Finish the kitchen, pay the agreed amount.

Wires are cheap compared to the cost of the installation. 
What is so hard to use, you can even verify yourself or buy yourself if you don't believe.

This because of the unfairly structured contract to the consumer become the standard

With property contract, late projects delivery should be charged with LAD, contractor won't took more jobs than what can they deliver

Proper contractor usually will charge more, consumer prefer cheaper price hence they got into these lousy contractor with more hidden cost in the long run

U sure trust them to do wiring without following our local laws ? If fire happen and bomba investigate, say GG to your insurance claim lol

Our wirings are done by Bangla... same same lah.

Ah ok, ayam must have missed it

But managed by local chinese contractor. But before i approve,i get wireman who has license from TnB to do inspection before paying

Normal lah

Some people open thread but create their own headings 

At least have the decency to pay tax to the host country la

No wonder everyone hate CCP, parasitic in nature, already big and rich still want to suck the blood of the poorer countries dry

it is not TNB, it is Suruhanjaya Tenaga (ST)

From a consumer perspective, this is actually a very big win.

Big loss for the economy.

They're cheaper because they wont pay any taxes here, and won't pay any taxes on China either. This becomes black money.

Also since they're only on the tourist visa they won't spend much here either, even compared to those other illegal bangladeshis/indonesians/pakistanis that do contractor work which live here.

I knew there were a large group of renovation contractor from Vietnam.

They can beat local contractor by 30%~50% lower in quotation.

It's not a news anymore.

I don't deny some workers never put in effort to improve their skills.
Wet cement - forever only knew how to do brick & plaster.
Tiler - forever just want to do tiling.

I came across a group of vietnamese who could sapu electrical, water piping, cement, tiling, iron works, all by themselves.

Title from the website that i quote but memang illegal. Lagi mau proteck for what. Letting our money go out without paying tax is a form of betrayal to nation. U as malaysian support such betrayal ?

It's also temporary. Market is tough in China, they are willing to take a cut from what they normally charge for survival. Once times are better they will go back to status quo

And what then of our local market? Wiped out by them?

Pros and cons for consumers

Cons are as per what you say, and also local companies lose biz

Pros are consumers get cheaper service and might spur local companies to offer better services

Fact is even without those from China, a lot of people today are turning to Indonesians to do such work too and even if you engage local companies, the ones who actually do the work are Bangla or Indon

Renovation works are really dependent on the scale. If its condo renovation (the pic from the article looks like condo), you normally can't do much and if you buy higher end condos. you don't even need to do tiling anymore

So, 20 days to just install lights and cabinets is actually reasonable and if local companies quote 2 months, then can you blame consumers to turn to China contractors? 

As for quality, local biz also not assured of quality too. So, if both also not assured of quality, most consumers would go for cheaper and faster service

It's also temporary. Market is tough in China, they are willing to take a cut from what they normally charge for survival. Once times are better they will go back to status quo

And what then of our local market? Wiped out by them?

it only has begun...

we relied too much on foreigners actually. cooks from viet/cambo/southern thai, construction workers from bangladesh/indonesia, pasar workers from myanmar, and now CCP invasion

But AMDK says China economy collapsing

So, they will go back to better times? 

Normal la those guy are form of migration from poorer countries
This one CCP already rich already also want to do that still?

At least have the decency to pay tax to the host country la

No wonder everyone hate CCP, parasitic in nature, already big and rich still want to suck the blood of the poorer countries dry

If u source cheap unqualified local contractors also, onus is on u to kena if bomba check and see if u see product that not met sirim.

Ayam talking solely on electrical. The others one ayam dono.

Get a competent, accredited local contractors and dont support illegal workers who wont pay tax. It is a national betrayal

won't wipe out, in the end if they wanna do business, have to register SSM, hire local staff and apply worker permit, then that time baru is level playing field. Worker permit cost the most, easily RM10k+ per year.

The way they do illegally is just ad hoc job.

Cheaper and faster?
Can share contacts ah ?

I know house reno by some contractors need to take 2-3 months even though everything need cash upfront.

When I bought my house and did my reno, I was expecting my contractors to focus everyday at my house, but what I got is that they'll go missing a few days, then, come back do a bit and then go missing again.

Normal la those guy are form of migration from poorer countries
This one CCP already rich already also want to do that still?

Their restaurant biz also don't want to comply with local council ruling from signage to lev and grease trap.

Comply macam a taboo for them kek

these CCP if rich better they go to australia or any other european country, what for wanna do this kind of job at some random stranger in strange land? anytime can kena raid what?

or better still, run a scam job call center

their style of work: if can escape then just do it. see the ss19 ccp restaurant case enough lah

I hired indon for a small renovation, cost is just 1/3 compared to local and get the job done fast no need to queue like few weeks.

Real topkek fellas

KL estabishments like Hakka Restaurant, Nobel House always comply with regulations for generations

These guys come in signage also no f care can cry mother and father kek
s.

Their restaurant biz also don't want to comply with local council ruling from signage to lev and grease trap.

Comply macam a taboo for them kek

How you manage them?
I have heard some under estimate the job and “almost” want to disappear after half done….

How do you think they do it cheaper? 996, pay worker like shxt, ignore all OSHA and environmental regulations, lari income tax.

It's not some super secret. That's why shxt like Bangkok building collapsed happen.

Big loss for the economy.

They're cheaper because they wont pay any taxes here, and won't pay any taxes on China either. This becomes black money.

Also since they're only on the tourist visa they won't spend much here either, even compared to those other illegal bangladeshis/indonesians/pakistanis that do contractor work which live here.

Shockingly i hear they willing to outbid locals to rent prime spots so they are not exactly cash strapped

But my god do they cut corners elsewhere

really act like gangster they are

simple thing also kenot comply, can expect them to throw all kind of shits into the sewers, epf socso memang GG

Things not rosy back home. It ain't collapsing it aint a bed of roses either. They won't be coming out in droves if it wasn't the case

Funny why cheap CCP no go indonesia do work. Indonesia worker must be very better than Chynah 

these CCP if rich better they go to australia or any other european country, what for wanna do this kind of job at some random stranger in strange land? anytime can kena raid what?

or better still, run a scam job call center

U think bangla and Indon pay taxes? Taxes does not justify why they are cheaper and more efficient. It's just a poorly put up excuse.

As to whether the bangla / indo contribute to local spending, it is not that much. Most of their earnings are sent back to their home country. It's just the way things are. Despite all of this, we still need them.

Cost of business, and more importantly mau tunjuk muka

A friend in education business told me about how a daughter of "civil servant" come here study master but rent condo in jalan Kia peng.

The thing is even if they run trough the legal channel they still do a better job at lower price then the locals ......I've seen a lot of renovation work done in my area and most of the owner when chit chat always complain sifu lansi and slow, but money want advance first. Very hard to find one that is fast and efficient.

With china currently at a property bust, their skill worker got not much business except oversea. And the problem with local here is because the work is "hard" and bad reputation in the past getting paid less .... not many local wanna do.

This goes same to decoration artist, like if you wanna cover your wall with cement art how many know if local here have professional doing that? Many hire outsiders. Same as murals.

Blaming outsider snatch your rice bow ain't gonna solve the fact that our service is no where close to their level. If local good quality + fast price war won't make too much of a difference .... its only a problem when your price already expensive but the quality and speed is questionable.

Factories they open here also funny cases

I hear from folks who dealt with them, consult for them. Even when given the opportunity to apply for MIDA tax incentives they rather not. Its open to all manufacturers in MY regardless of shareholding. The only folks who do this are probably those that dont manufacture and only swap packaging right...???

My vendor supplies consumables and approach a few before. Mission critical consumables as in if supply stop you ham ka ling. These china factories always tell him to quote the same price as their china suppliers ex work china. else no talk. They say no issue can always get from China. But my vendor put 2 and 2 together, you get disruption in the slightest you basically have intermitent production. Serious companies dont do this. But they can accept. So this tells you again production here is for show maybe? And bulk of stuff they export are rebadge stuff

Not illegal also la, they rebadge cant get certificate of origin but these factories should be reclassified as non FDI contributing and be barred from purchasing prime land kek

Their restaurant biz also don't want to comply with local council ruling from signage to lev and grease trap.

Comply macam a taboo for them kek

their style of work: if can escape then just do it. see the ss19 ccp restaurant case enough lah

Factories they open here also funny cases

I hear from folks who dealt with them, consult for them. Even when given the opportunity to apply for MIDA tax incentives they rather not. Its open to all manufacturers in MY regardless of shareholding. The only folks who do this are probably those that dont manufacture and only swap packaging right...???

My vendor supplies consumables and approach a few before. Mission critical consumables as in if supply stop you ham ka ling. These china factories always tell him to quote the same price as their china suppliers ex work china. else no talk. They say no issue can always get from China. But my vendor put 2 and 2 together, you get disruption in the slightest you basically have intermitent production. Serious companies dont do this. But they can accept. So this tells you again production here is for show maybe? And bulk of stuff they export are rebadge stuff

Not illegal also la, they rebadge cant get certificate of origin but these factories should be reclassified as non FDI contributing and be barred from purchasing prime land kek

SS19 itu is local restaurant

The thing is even if they run trough the legal channel they still do a better job at lower price then the locals ......I've seen a lot of renovation work done in my area and most of the owner when chit chat always complain sifu lansi and slow, but money want advance first. Very hard to find one that is fast and efficient.

With china currently at a property bust, their skill worker got not much business except oversea. And the problem with local here is because the work is "hard" and bad reputation in the past getting paid less .... not many local wanna do.

This goes same to decoration artist, like if you wanna cover your wall with cement art how many know if local here have professional doing that? Many hire outsiders. Same as murals.

Blaming outsider snatch your rice bow ain't gonna solve the fact that our service is no where close to their level. If local good quality + fast price war won't make too much of a difference .... its only a problem when your price already expensive but the quality and speed is questionable.

I still cannot brain how this benefits local Wolf Warriors? Are they just retirees who TCSS everyday? So far I see Wolf Warrior pattern in this forum, everyday jilat China EV but own self drive Japanese car, everyday jilat China good but send own children go study in Western country.

kenot be that ignorant what?