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TOMEI-R
post Sep 11 2025, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Sep 11 2025, 11:44 AM)
I think at some point I will want to try the Air too but for me battery life is key coz the iPhone is my main driver - and the fact that Apple is pushing a MagSafe battery pack specifically for the Air doesn’t exactly inspire confidence!
I also use an Android for work but I usually go with the one with the biggest battery available coz when I travel for work I turn on the hotspot for my personal phone to feed off it, haha… Currently using an Iqoo Neo 10 with a 7,000mAh battery - waiting for Realme to release their 10,000mAh battery phone - probably next year, hahaha…

For iPhone, the Pro Max is not just for the battery but also for the display… I do sometimes consume some media off my phone when I don’t have my iPad with me and it’s just a bit better to have the extra screen estate on the Pro Max smile.gif
They will also use a square sensor for their next phones? laugh.gif
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Bro.. its like buying an EV but fearing the need to queue at the charging station to charge it for long outstation drives. laugh.gif

This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Sep 11 2025, 12:08 PM
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post Sep 11 2025, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Sep 11 2025, 12:02 PM)
Thinking how CelcomDigi Easy 360 plan will be, hmm ..

If big discount, maybe can consider?
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i tot no people discuss telco plan nowadays... what is the plan it be?
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post Sep 11 2025, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 11 2025, 05:11 AM)
Sure le bro , the 4x will snap at 48mp and 8x after crop stil have 12mp , like the vivo X series , honor magic series , but they have advantage over iphone because they using 200mp for telezoom , after combination with AI , those phone look great on superzoom.

So now let wait review how good will be the apple 8x , maybe will see some improvement because now it come with 12gb ram , so the zoom will be working with AI calculation i believe , like the pixel10pro with 16gb ram to help on AI calculation to improve superzoom photo.
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My issue is that Apple talk about it like it’s optical zoom. It’s not. It’s equivalent. 🤭

I don’t doubt the results will be better than 16PM at 8x with crop. But this marketing speak irks me. Try to confuse us.

The more I look, the more the vanilla 17 is a “pro” phone without the tele camera. Sudah ada promotion.
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post Sep 11 2025, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 11 2025, 01:07 PM)
My issue is that Apple talk about it like it’s optical zoom. It’s not. It’s equivalent. 🤭

I don’t doubt the results will be better than 16PM at 8x with crop. But this marketing speak irks me. Try to confuse us.

The more I look, the more the vanilla 17 is a “pro” phone without the tele camera. Sudah ada promotion.
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What they mean was 4x with 48mp optical , and x8 will be as good as with 12mp optical. So let wait the youtube review and see how true is it , i doubt with daylight should be ok but lowlight will be GG.


iphone 17 is good buy if u dont use the telephoto alot , dual 48mp camera system is more than enough for daily unless u are kind person that always visit to concert biggrin.gif , and with only 177gram , caring a slim magsafe powerbank wont be suffering biggrin.gif The only thing have to concern is after 1 or 2 year , the small capacity battery starting degrade , and u will need more charge per day , that is very common issues for small phone. China phone starting to slash big battery like 6000-6500 on their 6.3" phone , thank to silicone carbon.

Really wish Apple can upgrade to SiCarbon battery on next launching , now i like small phone more alot than big phone (my ip16PM) biggrin.gif (because i just downgrade from 6.8" 5000mAh android phone to 6.67" with 6200mAh battery , and i know that was a GREAT move , super happy with smaller and light phone yet big battery , i aim 6.3" with bigger battery on future upgrade)

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QUOTE(xproc @ Sep 11 2025, 12:10 PM)
i tot no people discuss telco plan nowadays... what is the plan it be?
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Celcomdigi One Ultra / Pro has this benefit to get cheaper iphone instalment 24m or 36m under easy360 : https://www.celcomdigi.com/devices/easy360

But there's this hidden part for Family Plus where that individual can join the part of family line at RM25 while also enjoy Easy360 benefit:

Left is One Ultra /Pro price ; Right is Family Plus under 36 months installments:

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So i plan to join as Family Plus if good discount, hmm
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post Sep 11 2025, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 11 2025, 11:28 AM)
I guess it may not be so easy to copy Becos it involved hardware I guess. 🤪
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Apple can fit the sensor because the dynamic island is big enough , for android , maybe only Huawei or honor can fit because they are the first phone that using dynamic island (Magic Capsule) , if other android want to follow , the camera DOT will need big size and might be not a good looking biggrin.gif maybe they will be using ultra wide sensor and using software to cut become landscape mode (fake landscape) laugh.gif , i really hope android will have this feature too by the way tongue.gif

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post Sep 11 2025, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Sep 11 2025, 11:44 AM)
I think at some point I will want to try the Air too but for me battery life is key coz the iPhone is my main driver - and the fact that Apple is pushing a MagSafe battery pack specifically for the Air doesn’t exactly inspire confidence!
I also use an Android for work but I usually go with the one with the biggest battery available coz when I travel for work I turn on the hotspot for my personal phone to feed off it, haha… Currently using an Iqoo Neo 10 with a 7,000mAh battery - waiting for Realme to release their 10,000mAh battery phone - probably next year, hahaha…

For iPhone, the Pro Max is not just for the battery but also for the display… I do sometimes consume some media off my phone when I don’t have my iPad with me and it’s just a bit better to have the extra screen estate on the Pro Max smile.gif
They will also use a square sensor for their next phones? laugh.gif
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realme come out 15000mAh biggrin.gif they claim 5 day usage phone , bigger than powerbank capacity , crazy laugh.gif
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post Sep 11 2025, 02:40 PM

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Any idea in the Apple store app in phone, if I pre-order with trade in, is there an option to self-pickup? If yes, then the payment is made on TRX Apple store itself? Because I want to pay half and another half convert to installment. Not sure pre-order can work like this or not.
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post Sep 11 2025, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(esmonde @ Sep 11 2025, 02:40 PM)
Any idea in the Apple store app in phone, if I pre-order with trade in, is there an option to self-pickup? If yes, then the payment is made on TRX Apple store itself? Because I want to pay half and another half convert to installment. Not sure pre-order can work like this or not.
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Yes, can pick up. Payment will need to be made when you order. No, you cannot do it this way. It will charge you full and later only credited back to you after trade-in and inspection.

You can choose full payment or installment upon payment.
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post Sep 11 2025, 03:20 PM

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Apple trade-in program was a disaster last year....i got my refund after almost a month.

hopefully can see the improvements this year.
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post Sep 11 2025, 03:21 PM

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Thanks for the info. Guess I have to walk in to do the manual payment thingy.
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QUOTE(JasonthegreatTWO @ Sep 11 2025, 02:50 AM)
Switch and UR trade in price is out. Rm3320 after overtrade with 16PM 256GB.

If use credit card has vouchers but still Apple stores 3500 offers for trade in the best
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Apple Store trade in value RM3,500 is truly amazing. Even if one were to sell off a 16PM 256GB on Carousell, RM3,500 is more or less the effective selling price already.
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QUOTE(shockk @ Sep 11 2025, 03:43 PM)
Apple  Store trade in value RM3,500 is truly amazing. Even if one were to sell off a 16PM 256GB on Carousell, RM3,500 is more or less the  effective selling price already.
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There is slight differences if you trade in Apple you need to purchase the phone there at 5999.

If you managed to sell at Carousal, you can purchase at Shopee for 5750 or so with voucher. Last year was 300 off in Shopee
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 11 2025, 12:07 PM)
Bro.. its like buying an EV but fearing the need to queue at the charging station to charge it for long outstation drives.  laugh.gif
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Which is why I don’t see myself driving an EV in the foreseeable future, hahaha…

QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 11 2025, 02:14 PM)
realme come out 15000mAh  biggrin.gif  they claim 5 day usage phone , bigger than powerbank capacity , crazy  laugh.gif
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That’s too much, 10,000mAh enough la.. I don’t wanna be banned on flights… Haha…

QUOTE(esmonde @ Sep 11 2025, 02:40 PM)
Any idea in the Apple store app in phone, if I pre-order with trade in, is there an option to self-pickup? If yes, then the payment is made on TRX Apple store itself? Because I want to pay half and another half convert to installment. Not sure pre-order can work like this or not.
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I think you can try your luck to walk in if you wanna do this. I know Senheng and Harvey Norman allows this but not sure if those are great channels to pre-order.

QUOTE(Lynixx @ Sep 11 2025, 03:20 PM)
Apple trade-in program was a disaster last year....i got my refund after almost a month.

hopefully can see the improvements this year.
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Ohh, can share more details? I am planning to trade in to them this year

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post Sep 11 2025, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 11 2025, 01:33 PM)
What they mean was 4x with 48mp optical , and x8 will be as good as with 12mp optical. So let wait the youtube review and see how true is it , i doubt with daylight should be ok but lowlight will be GG.
iphone 17 is good buy if u dont use the telephoto alot , dual 48mp camera system is more than enough for daily unless u are kind person that always visit to concert  biggrin.gif  , and with only 177gram , caring a slim magsafe powerbank wont be suffering  biggrin.gif The only thing have to concern is after 1 or 2 year , the small capacity battery starting degrade , and u will need more charge per day , that is very common issues for small phone. China phone starting to slash big battery like 6000-6500 on their 6.3" phone , thank to silicone carbon.

Really wish Apple can upgrade to SiCarbon battery on next launching , now i like small phone more alot than big phone (my ip16PM) biggrin.gif (because i just downgrade from 6.8" 5000mAh android phone to 6.67" with 6200mAh battery , and i know that was a GREAT move , super happy with smaller and light phone yet big battery , i aim 6.3" with bigger battery on future upgrade)
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My iPhone 15 vanilla at 92% BH with 777 charges. Last week kept charging to 99% because was traveling. Usually set 80% max since at work, car or home got charger.
And don’t charge overnight and try not to go below 20% BH. Going strong. I think I’ll hold on till next year if I don’t get tempted. I had 16PM in natural and black… I liked the natural color but it was too heavy and too big to handle with one hand, so came back to 15. Did not feel 16 was a jump from 15 so didn’t bother.

Of course SilCarbon battery will be best but I think that’s at least 2 more years from Apple.

I was using 13 mini, everything was great except battery cannot make it. Degrade heavily since need to constantly charge.
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QUOTE(dikae @ Sep 11 2025, 11:24 AM)
me too always a pro max person when it comes to iphone, but ever since I used a smaller android this year, I'm having dilemma now... the smaller size phone actually fit the hand much better, using it more coz of the smaller form factor as well.... and I heard the battery on the pro is not too bad compare to PM...dilemma dilemma..
you're ok with the smaller battery?
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It seems much more improved for the 17 Pro over the 16 Pro.
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post Sep 11 2025, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 11 2025, 04:01 PM)
My iPhone 15 vanilla at 92% BH with 777 charges. Last week kept charging to 99% because was traveling. Usually set 80% max since at work, car or home got charger.
And don’t charge overnight and try not to go below 20% BH. Going strong. I think I’ll hold on till next year if I don’t get tempted. I had 16PM in natural and black… I liked the natural color but it was too heavy and too big to handle with one hand, so came back to 15. Did not feel 16 was a jump from 15 so didn’t bother.

Of course SilCarbon battery will be best but I think that’s at least 2 more years from Apple.

I was using 13 mini, everything was great except battery cannot make it. Degrade heavily since need to constantly charge.
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Yeah , the pro max with case + temp glass even more bulky + heavy biggrin.gif , when lying down on bed playing the phone , few time miss hold and hit my face, damn pain laugh.gif , i believe the 17 pro max will be even more bulky with case sweat.gif
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QUOTE(TongCN @ Sep 11 2025, 01:34 PM)
Celcomdigi One Ultra / Pro has this benefit to get cheaper iphone instalment 24m or 36m under easy360 : https://www.celcomdigi.com/devices/easy360

But there's this hidden part for Family Plus where that individual can join the part of family line at RM25 while also enjoy Easy360 benefit:

Left is One Ultra /Pro price ; Right is Family Plus under 36 months installments:

user posted image

So i plan to join as Family Plus if good discount, hmm
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Hi there.
I’m back again after 2 years since the last iPhone 15pro🤭
And the last time I got my iPhone 15P with the DIGI plan 24 months contract. Now they all have merged with Celcom, I’m so confused as to how that plan will apply under CelcomDigi.

Anyone have bought iPhone 16 last year using the CelcomDigi 24/36 months contract?
What’s Family Plus plan if you don’t mind me asking?
It’s all so confusing.

I called CelcomDigi earlier today to asked if there’s any upfront payment to make in order to be able to preorder the iPhone 17P….they all like clueless only. All the CS told me after checking and verifying my personal details was “You go to CelcomDigi store, walk in and asked if any upfront payment.” Hahahahaha aiyo…suddenly I’m so dumb on how to apply get the contract thingy.

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QUOTE(Lynixx @ Sep 11 2025, 03:20 PM)
Apple trade-in program was a disaster last year....i got my refund after almost a month.

hopefully can see the improvements this year.
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Me too. sweat.gif Mine was 1.5 months later. Avoid RHB and HLB as per what happened last year, the CS Manager told me.
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QUOTE(JasonthegreatTWO @ Sep 11 2025, 03:51 PM)
There is slight differences if you trade in Apple you need to purchase the phone there at 5999.

If you managed to sell at Carousal, you can purchase at Shopee for 5750 or so with voucher. Last year was 300 off in Shopee
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Yeah, guess the only other benefit of buying through Apple is the 14-day no questions asked return policy though.

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