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Jason
post Jul 6 2025, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(em_on @ Jun 9 2025, 08:18 AM)
hope it increases its battery capacity that is one of the important criteria that i would consider this upgrade
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Pro Max rumored to get biggest battery ever for Apple. I hope Pro gets a battery bump as well. I’m eyeing the Pro due to the 12GB RAM, vapor chamber & redesign to alu.

Frankly the Ti on 16 Pro lineup doesn’t appeal to me. A bit too heavy since I use the device to read a lot.

I’ll admit the Ti finished desert titanium looks good. I’ve owned and handled desert titanium, black and natural 16PM. Not particularly attracted to it. Swapped back to 15 due to form factor and weight. 16 Pro weight like a brick for not much more screen versus plain 15 so nope.

This will be my first Pro purchase on launch day. If they don’t mess up the battery. I would consider the plain 17 if it has A19 + 12GB Ram, but it’s based on iPhone 16 design, so I guess I’ll swing for Pro.

Or if it doesn’t appeal again I’ll just stick with my 15. I feel Apple need to do more… moving the logo down is not a feature I care about…
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post Jul 7 2025, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Jul 6 2025, 03:25 AM)
Pro Max rumored to get biggest battery ever for Apple. I hope Pro gets a battery bump as well. I’m eyeing the Pro due to the 12GB RAM, vapor chamber & redesign to alu.

Frankly the Ti on 16 Pro lineup doesn’t appeal to me. A bit too heavy since I use the device to read a lot.

I’ll admit the Ti finished desert titanium looks good. I’ve owned and handled desert titanium, black and natural 16PM. Not particularly attracted to it. Swapped back to 15 due to form factor and weight. 16 Pro weight like a brick for not much more screen versus plain 15 so nope.

This will be my first Pro purchase on launch day. If they don’t mess up the battery. I would consider the plain 17 if it has A19 + 12GB Ram, but it’s based on iPhone 16 design, so I guess I’ll swing for Pro.

Or if it doesn’t appeal again I’ll just stick with my 15. I feel Apple need to do more… moving the logo down is not a feature I care about…
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Ok, watched some YT on iphone 17 and 18... I think I'll hold and wait for the 18 instead lol. or maybe i'll butt itchy and get 17 pro to play with maybe 3 months post launch.
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post Jul 17 2025, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jul 15 2025, 04:21 PM)
For those of us already used to 80W 90W 100W charging speed, iPhone charger is a bit let down

We don't have to wait overnight for the Fon to finish charging too
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Well that’s only a problem if you’ve been to the dark side. Loyal diehard Apple sheeps won’t know what they never had.

Plus iPhone don’t really have huge batteries to begin with so not that big a difference.

I only charge to 80% so still okay for me. Only when I’m out extended period of time do I max out to 100%.
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post Jul 22 2025, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Jul 22 2025, 12:46 PM)
More picture, so no natural titanium for ip17?

No longer Ti material. So not. Man I don’t like the color scheme.
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post Jul 23 2025, 11:38 AM

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The most attractive "feature" to me.. is the RAM.. I don't use MagSafe charging because it turns the phone into a hot potato..

Don't use telephoto either.. looks like another yawn for me...
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post Jul 23 2025, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Jul 23 2025, 03:50 PM)
Or you can change the battery and save some money tongue.gif

I can't really tell the difference between my iPhone 14 Pro Max and the latest iPhone 16 Pro Max in terms of daily usage.
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True that
But if he has other devices the usb-c is really convenient. I get to bring just 1 charger and cable to swap between my laptop and iPhone 15. I’m trying to get him to upgrade from the 14 Pro hahahaha

I didn’t feel any performance difference between 16 Pro Max and vanilla 15…. Because I just use browser, YouTube and WhatsApp. Went from black ti to natural ti.. and back to 15 since I like the form factor more. 16 Pro is unnecessarily heavy compared to plain 15 so I didn’t bother.

I want to find excuse to upgrade to 17 pro… still finding

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post Jul 24 2025, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Jul 23 2025, 04:25 PM)
Lol ... legend XD
Unless 17 pro has bigger changes on all camera, otherwise i might choose to do battery replacement:)
USB-C alone already can push me to upgrade already cause  rclxs0.gif  IT CAN CONNECT EXTERNAL SDD for continuous photo/recording  thumbup.gif

Just that 16 pro improvement really minor and majority like advertising Apple AI (which meh)
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Lai Lai upgrade

Yes 16 pro max was meh for me. Now 17 pro also meh for me. I backup photos from my 15 to a USB C thumb drive also very fast.
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post Jul 24 2025, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jul 24 2025, 03:42 PM)
Wah, no need to use a screen protector then. laugh.gif
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You sure ah boss? SP very cheap only. RM10 can get... whatever story they say end up also scratch 1 la.
This feature alone not enough to go for Pro for me.

Don't see compelling reason leh. Especially vanilla 17 got 120hz liao

For photographers..they rejoice lah.. telephoto with 48mp
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post Jul 24 2025, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jul 24 2025, 03:50 PM)
RM 10 quality is bad. tongue.gif Anyway, I will still use one screen protector la.

But I'm always a Pro Max user, won't consider anything lower than that.
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Used to the screen size very hard to transition back. I felt that back then from note 4 to s5.

But now even normal iPhone so big (I kaki iPhone mini and kaki 1 hand use phone). I used 16 pro max 2 weeks felt it was too big and heavy, and take up a lot of space in my jeans pocket. Carrying a brick around. Very sad they don’t want to do mini anymore.

If they have a mini, I might get it for the form factor 😂🫢 but not worth it la, cause battery smaller you charge more, more cycles it degrade the battery faster.
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post Jul 25 2025, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jul 24 2025, 11:58 PM)
Yes, difficult to transition back. Screen is one factor but the battery life is also important for me. Pro series also has better specs so it’s hard for me to get the vanilla version.
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What specs matters to you that makes pro the right fit:
cameras on pro? Or the 120hz screen you can’t go non pro?

OLED was the biggest game changer for vanilla. Otherwise performance was not such a big issue for me due to my usage pattern. That’s why I’m going to try and skip this (which I will fail halfway due to backside itchy). My upgrade cycle was 3 years being the longest. Prior to iPhone 7 I upgrade every year.

I tried 16 PM because the allure of the Ti frame. Which is very nice and I do like it, just not ergonomic due to weight. 120hz didn’t do anything for my use case.
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post Aug 1 2025, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 1 2025, 03:19 PM)
So refreshing to see this color. laugh.gif
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I don’t dig it
First thing that came to mind. Hermes.

The blue I can live with it.

Anyway it still looks off to me.
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post Sep 9 2025, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 9 2025, 02:08 PM)
Based on previous experience shared by others, it is not that good. The stocks arrived late compared to other dealers. Usually, people pre-order with them for the extra warranty, I never tried before with them though.
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I preordered iPad from Senheng before upon launch, delay damn long...
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post Sep 10 2025, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(attw @ Sep 10 2025, 08:59 AM)
I think this year the vanilla 17 offers the best value - same RM3,999 starting price but you get double the storage and 120hz refresh rate. That itself is a big win already.
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The only thing stopping it from being amazing is 8GB ram. If it had 12GB can forget about Pro unless you want the camera.

So… Pro has 4x optical and 8x “croptical”? I am not getting what they trying to confuse me with. Is it a real 8x optical or not?

And yes if I were to buy a Pro I want the eSIM version cause I want the battery. So significant on the pros!
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post Sep 10 2025, 11:32 PM

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The tele camera optical zoom is 4x… 8x is a crop…

Errrr
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post Sep 11 2025, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 11 2025, 05:11 AM)
Sure le bro , the 4x will snap at 48mp and 8x after crop stil have 12mp , like the vivo X series , honor magic series , but they have advantage over iphone because they using 200mp for telezoom , after combination with AI , those phone look great on superzoom.

So now let wait review how good will be the apple 8x , maybe will see some improvement because now it come with 12gb ram , so the zoom will be working with AI calculation i believe , like the pixel10pro with 16gb ram to help on AI calculation to improve superzoom photo.
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My issue is that Apple talk about it like it’s optical zoom. It’s not. It’s equivalent. 🤭

I don’t doubt the results will be better than 16PM at 8x with crop. But this marketing speak irks me. Try to confuse us.

The more I look, the more the vanilla 17 is a “pro” phone without the tele camera. Sudah ada promotion.
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post Sep 11 2025, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 11 2025, 01:33 PM)
What they mean was 4x with 48mp optical , and x8 will be as good as with 12mp optical. So let wait the youtube review and see how true is it , i doubt with daylight should be ok but lowlight will be GG.
iphone 17 is good buy if u dont use the telephoto alot , dual 48mp camera system is more than enough for daily unless u are kind person that always visit to concert  biggrin.gif  , and with only 177gram , caring a slim magsafe powerbank wont be suffering  biggrin.gif The only thing have to concern is after 1 or 2 year , the small capacity battery starting degrade , and u will need more charge per day , that is very common issues for small phone. China phone starting to slash big battery like 6000-6500 on their 6.3" phone , thank to silicone carbon.

Really wish Apple can upgrade to SiCarbon battery on next launching , now i like small phone more alot than big phone (my ip16PM) biggrin.gif (because i just downgrade from 6.8" 5000mAh android phone to 6.67" with 6200mAh battery , and i know that was a GREAT move , super happy with smaller and light phone yet big battery , i aim 6.3" with bigger battery on future upgrade)
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My iPhone 15 vanilla at 92% BH with 777 charges. Last week kept charging to 99% because was traveling. Usually set 80% max since at work, car or home got charger.
And don’t charge overnight and try not to go below 20% BH. Going strong. I think I’ll hold on till next year if I don’t get tempted. I had 16PM in natural and black… I liked the natural color but it was too heavy and too big to handle with one hand, so came back to 15. Did not feel 16 was a jump from 15 so didn’t bother.

Of course SilCarbon battery will be best but I think that’s at least 2 more years from Apple.

I was using 13 mini, everything was great except battery cannot make it. Degrade heavily since need to constantly charge.
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post Sep 11 2025, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 11 2025, 07:25 PM)
If iPhone 17 is iPhone 17 plus I believe more ppl will buy it, Becos most ppl especially Asians had gotten used to big display already. No doubt 17 this year has the best CP value, but I guess those who get used to bigger display may not buy it.

I think this is the real reason why Apple killed the plus actually.

Ultimately, many may be forced to buy the pro max after all.
My iPhone SE first gen also bloated. I love the phone very much. Not it cannot be used anymore.
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I noticed guys tend to use Pro or vanilla. Girls tend to take PM and Plus. But that just my circle la. For me, the plain vanilla iPhone and Pro size is already pushing it... i really loved Mini - with 1 hand its a wonder. Oh, and I got perfect eyesight so that works. I do laugh at older folks (my friends) who need to adjust bigger text size.

If guys just stick in pocket, PM and Plus is... well.. no space cause my junk need that space.
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post Sep 12 2025, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Sep 11 2025, 11:57 PM)
Which is why Apple now wants to sell you a RM299 piece of string so you can wear your phone like a handbag and have more free space for your junk.  brows.gif
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Too metrosexual for me but I can see many people going for it. Apple very smart.

 

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