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TSNinG
post Jan 10 2025, 07:40 AM

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Whenever I starts the monkey mind, I exercise. Recently stopped due to mind fatigue. Too tired until i able to sleep whole day. But the mind is restlsss, which caused me worst
Thanks for the encouragement, I will force myself to workout again. True, we complicated life, and life is too short to waste our time. I don't want to give myself too many excuses without trying.

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Being in a relationship is the most tired thing I ever done. White flag for me. 放过我 T.T

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post Jan 10 2025, 08:03 AM

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Thank you for all the kind words, encouragements and suggestions. At the moment my mind is truly numbed and high level of fatigue. But I will slowly digest it. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

For other lyn who experiencing this, you're not alone.
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post Jan 10 2025, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(NinG @ Jan 9 2025, 11:10 PM)
Can anyone share your experience in fighting against depression and anxiety? Sorry Mod, I tried to search in mental group but it seems to be active long ago so posted in serious /k.

I feel like roller coaster for the past 6 years, recently my condition is getting severe. I only took my medication for the 1st year then stopped, these few years tried on self control. I've been keeping myself busy, further studies, start up business, work harder, religion supports, but my emotions stil unstable while controllable.

Recently my condition worsens drastically so decided visit physiatrist 2 days ago. I told my dr that I just want to get my monkey mind a good rest. However after the medication, I couldn't work as my mind is totally numbed, knackered and nausea. Due to the side effects, I throw up like nobody business today.

I'm meeting my physiatrist again next monday to see if can solve my root cause to ease my conditions. I try not to be dependent on sleeping pills. Basically 2025 my most important plan is religion support, continue workout, further studies again (new title), pick up my old hobbies. Love myself more as I've been neglecting myself. I not sure if keeping myself busy works for my conditions? Most probably no more business again this year as I'm really out of hand.

Can I have sharings of your journey? At least I know I'm not alone or maybe brainstorming on certain part I probably missed out. This point, I'm feeling very very very super duper sick, felt like standing side of a cliff and it really took me alot of courage to type this out because maybe there is other perspectives which im missing out. Please don't bash me. I just need help.

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I had the same issue. but not until need medication.

Yes your plan is spot on. Religion is one of the way. find a bigger purpose in life.

workout also helps. join some events like those running events and set a goal to yourself. basically anything that keeps your mind off overthinking. I couldn't imagine myself living without sports because that is the only thing keeping me sane these days.

all the best TS. I wish you the best.
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post Jan 10 2025, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(NinG @ Jan 10 2025, 07:05 AM)
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I'm no longer single, root cause of all of this is due to relationships. So both of us going to see physiatrist together next week to solve our problems.
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True also. I was shocked when I made the payment. Consultation fees cost RM200. Medication RM300. But I know I need something to stop the monkey mind first. Thanks for the suggestion, will look out for therapist see if helps.
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do not go to private, it's too expensive and will stress you even further.

go to government.

you can continue to see a psychiatrist in a govt hospital, it's only like RM1 or RM5 per visit.

The psychiatrist in the govt hospital can even arrange you to consult the clinical psychologist in the hospital. Perhaps, they might introduce CBT treatment for you.

You need both medication and therapy. The psychiatrist will know when is the right time to wean you out from the medication.

But at the first time, you need to find the root cause (this is the most important task to do). Looks like you have too many things to handle. You need to look into that.

Continue to get religion support if it helps.

The psychiatrist him/herself is also a form of support, so it's important for you to continue to see the psychiatrist (but not in the private hospital).
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post Jan 10 2025, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(NinG @ Jan 9 2025, 11:10 PM)
Can anyone share your experience in fighting against depression and anxiety? Sorry Mod, I tried to search in mental group but it seems to be active long ago so posted in serious /k.

I feel like roller coaster for the past 6 years, recently my condition is getting severe. I only took my medication for the 1st year then stopped, these few years tried on self control. I've been keeping myself busy, further studies, start up business, work harder, religion supports, but my emotions stil unstable while controllable.

Recently my condition worsens drastically so decided visit physiatrist 2 days ago. I told my dr that I just want to get my monkey mind a good rest. However after the medication, I couldn't work as my mind is totally numbed, knackered and nausea. Due to the side effects, I throw up like nobody business today.

I'm meeting my physiatrist again next monday to see if can solve my root cause to ease my conditions. I try not to be dependent on sleeping pills. Basically 2025 my most important plan is religion support, continue workout, further studies again (new title), pick up my old hobbies. Love myself more as I've been neglecting myself. I not sure if keeping myself busy works for my conditions? Most probably no more business again this year as I'm really out of hand.

Can I have sharings of your journey? At least I know I'm not alone or maybe brainstorming on certain part I probably missed out. This point, I'm feeling very very very super duper sick, felt like standing side of a cliff and it really took me alot of courage to type this out because maybe there is other perspectives which im missing out. Please don't bash me. I just need help.

Mod may remove this topic if inappropriate here. Thanks.
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For me if i feel anxiety, i take things slow.
keep it simple and stupid. don't do another thing, and take care of your own needs first.
after calming down, only continue to tackle other things 1 by 1.
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post Jan 10 2025, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(NinG @ Jan 10 2025, 08:40 AM)
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Whenever I starts the monkey mind, I exercise. Recently stopped due to mind fatigue. Too tired until i able to sleep whole day. But the mind is restlsss, which caused me worst
Thanks for the encouragement, I will force myself to workout again. True, we complicated life, and life is too short to waste our time. I don't want to give myself too many excuses without trying.

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Being in a relationship is the most tired thing I ever done. White flag for me. 放过我 T.T
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Why? If that relationship is tiring means he/she is not the suitable one for U.

Find one that fits Ur lifestyle and makes U comfortable with it.
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post Jan 10 2025, 08:34 AM

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Hi,
I have similar experience, had some issues with my IT consulting work circa 2020 and then I was on lexapro for like 6 months. Of course the mind keeps on looping back, can I get back the old job and pay, the life style, living like an expat etc. Spent a lot of time walking around a nearby park (was jobless for years but my circumstances allow it). So depending on your taste for physical activities, train as much as you want. I also solo hike at 5am, and did solo camp during that time (seldom do it now though, got a bit lazy since I felt better) .

In terms of religion, yes that part help a lot, not gonna preach to you to join anything, but just explain the component that helps if you're going to join one
A) you need to be in a smaller group, with consistent members, ppl that show good behaviours
B) some members are already in good shape, some may be in the same journey as you
C) the members have to share their struggle, and from there, you will notice, if your own issue is truly that big or it's partially from own imagination or bad internal monologue
D) summary of the result: from internal, you will notice that if other ppl are making progress you will feel the need to improve your own story. From external, other members may notice your improvement and mention it to you

Now I just do psrtime consulting works and trying to make my hobbies work (3d model). Your circumstances may be different, a lot of commitment etc. But if you can cut off some stuff that you don't need, do consider it. Don't let those silly post about how much money you need bothers you.

Bless you, friend.
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post Jan 10 2025, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(NinG @ Jan 10 2025, 07:40 AM)
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Whenever I starts the monkey mind, I exercise. Recently stopped due to mind fatigue. Too tired until i able to sleep whole day. But the mind is restlsss, which caused me worst
Thanks for the encouragement, I will force myself to workout again. True, we complicated life, and life is too short to waste our time. I don't want to give myself too many excuses without trying.

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Being in a relationship is the most tired thing I ever done. White flag for me. 放过我 T.T
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Have you been prescribed by your Dr to Serotonin (ssri) before?

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post Jan 10 2025, 08:58 AM

 
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QUOTE(NinG @ Jan 10 2025, 07:05 AM)
I'm no longer single, root cause of all of this is due to relationships. So both of us going to see physiatrist together next week to solve our problems.
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If this relationship is giving you hell, the only way out is to end it. No amount of medicine/exercise/religion or whatnot will help if you continue with this relationship.
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post Jan 10 2025, 08:59 AM

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Apparently many here don’t understand what anxiety and depression are. Many are telling you to stay positive, don’t think so much, exercise and etc, don’t really know that anxiety and depression are actually some form of nervous disorder, where our body is not able to control the nervous system mechanisms. Therefore, even though we know we should think positive, go exercise, relax.., we are still unable to do it.

That’s where psychiatrist comes in, diagnose and prescribe medication. With the help of medication, we can bring back our nervous system into a more balance situation, and then we can start to strengthen our nervous system by practising mindfulness, meditation, exercise.
Once our nervous system becomes stronger, we will feel better and recover from it.
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post Jan 10 2025, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Jan 10 2025, 08:59 AM)
Apparently many here don’t understand what anxiety and depression are. Many are telling you to stay positive, don’t think so much, exercise and etc, don’t really know that anxiety and depression are actually some form of nervous disorder, where our body is not able to control the nervous system mechanisms. Therefore, even though we know we should think positive, go exercise, relax.., we are still unable to do it.

That’s where psychiatrist comes in, diagnose and prescribe medication. With the help of medication, we can bring back our nervous system into a more balance situation, and then we can start to strengthen our nervous system by practising mindfulness, meditation, exercise.
Once our nervous system becomes stronger, we will feel better and recover from it.
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Thanks, above comments are mainly slef inflicted stress, depression on the other hand occur for no reason whether u like it or not.
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post Jan 10 2025, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(NinG @ Jan 10 2025, 07:40 AM)
Being in a relationship is the most tired thing I ever done. White flag for me. 放过我 T.T
That is better as you can identify this problem as the root cause of your issue. I dont know your gender, and also your type of relationship you are in, but relationship problem can basically be categorized into a few or a mixture of a few.

1. Cheating issue and trust issue
2. Money issue, other half spending and you are slaving and paying until sien kao liao
3. Verbal issue, talk very lanciao and hurting
4. Abusive and got fight and hitting
5. Family no supportive but you both still together
6. A mixture of above

I am not professional, but identifying the true root cause will help you tackle this. After you have identify it, then you need to inform the other side. Must be honest upfront telling he or she the root cause. Must be specific.

If it is cheating and trust issue, happen again and again, and you cannot take it, then chop it off
If money, can talk on spending behavior

If verbal, list down what kind of reply and speech will hurt you, and tell the other half how they should reply you in order not to hurt you, in a respectable fashion. Example, by adding, "do you think this a better option in front" and also telling other side not to get angry if you decide your way instead of their way

If abusive and fight, cannot take it, then chop it off


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While you try to drown your own in work, exercise, or wadever activities, the continuous repeatative hurt and insult might have put your mind in a state of "recalling those hurtful moment", and then your mind continue to dig deeper into it and keep thinking and getting worst and become depression and anxiety, hence the doctor prescribe you the medicine which slow your mind down into thinking too many things. But the side effect is, you will become too dependant on it, and got those side effect.

A better change to it is to practice your mind thoughts, as when your mind think about those bad moment, you need to shift it away by not drilling into it..it will kill your soul.
One of my ways is to listen to gospel soul music, those that preach to your heart and mind and affirming your life and soul and heal your wound. Make your eyes look at those lyrics, your mouth sing it out, and your brain process those words, then you will divert your mind into digging deeper to those depressive thoughts.

If you are a guy and had not been crying, maybe is time to cry it out loud and shed those tears out. It is totally alright to cry, you can start by crying out aloud as you listen to gospel soul music that heals your heart.

Write down the process flow in a paper and look at it as a manual tat when you are going into such, then what you need to do next to take it away from going into that. It takes practice to exercise your mind and brain..

I hope my sharing will help you a little bit by not being dependable solely on medicine. Medicine does help, but fully depend on it is not the solution. But to come out of it will be the best
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post Jan 10 2025, 09:34 AM

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You need to fix your gut, fix your sleep and fix your lifestyle.

Depression and anxiety is not just emotional and mental but all interrelated with your physical and spiritual as well.

Go search on gut brain axis first and HPA axis disruption.

Fix your gut first. Fix your gut first
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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 10 2025, 09:34 AM)
You need to fix your gut, fix your sleep and fix your lifestyle.

Depression and anxiety is not just emotional and mental but all interrelated with your physical and spiritual as well.

Go search on gut brain axis first and HPA axis disruption.

Fix your gut first. Fix your gut first
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TS already identify relationship as main cause..

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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Jan 10 2025, 09:58 AM)
TS already identify relationship as main cause..
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Thats a contributing factor..major or minor. There are a lot more contributing factor TS is aware or unaware of. Insight only can be gained with knowledge. If the mind and body is strong, emotion will be more resilliant.

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 10 2025, 12:38 AM)
If the other half is supportive then is a positive but if they give more stress then it will be more worse lol
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If the other half not willing to help at all is time to temporary move on without them, that the reason i advice TS go for support group/community/woman house etc

Medication example for hbp if the person don't want change or getting improve the person will forever using hbp medication not gonna solve the problem at the end

Interact with the right person/groups , those sound/joy/tear's/voice/is real and you can feel it that what make ppl relief/temporary let go for who i am/ppl can find alternative exit through all this support group since those feeling is real/is there/they understand/

the idea all this community is to accept/admit/ you need help, you don't want hide , accept who you are right now, temporary let go the previous you .

My time in orphanage from time to time we do visit all this community house, NGO house, to share our experience and feeling with other, doesn't matter what your background

Sometime human don't always interact with other or they really don't talk about it probably is feel malu,羞耻,or whatever reason is like example damm I'm a successful man is so xia sui to tell ppl i have this problem because the successful man worry how other think about him, like you're weak, loser etc negative thinking , in support group they listen, they don't judge , they help you overcome it.

That why i insist and advice TS seeking alternative help from this community support group i mention , sometimes you'll find someone have more bad life than yours, more bad experience than yours for the moment probably you can feel relief because I'm not the one is suffering , then when you try lend out your help to help the other still suffering sometimes things can improve

That my experience, if you have no idea what my long wall of text talking about just forget about it because i know my england is so broken .
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ts got try to bela pet ?
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Do u have gastric issues? Both are interlinked with depression
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QUOTE(NinG @ Jan 10 2025, 07:05 AM)
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I'm no longer single, root cause of all of this is due to relationships. So both of us going to see physiatrist together next week to solve our problems.
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True also. I was shocked when I made the payment. Consultation fees cost RM200. Medication RM300. But I know I need something to stop the monkey mind first. Thanks for the suggestion, will look out for therapist see if helps.
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there are many areas when it comes to therapy. Find a person to identify your symptom you will need a prolonged session ie trauma release when it comes to self limitation kind of thing, dont pay money onto something that didnt serve you just because of sunk cost fallacy

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