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TSNinG
post Jan 9 2025, 11:10 PM, updated 11 months ago

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Can anyone share your experience in fighting against depression and anxiety? Sorry Mod, I tried to search in mental group but it seems to be active long ago so posted in serious /k.

I feel like roller coaster for the past 6 years, recently my condition is getting severe. I only took my medication for the 1st year then stopped, these few years tried on self control. I've been keeping myself busy, further studies, start up business, work harder, religion supports, but my emotions stil unstable while controllable.

Recently my condition worsens drastically so decided visit physiatrist 2 days ago. I told my dr that I just want to get my monkey mind a good rest. However after the medication, I couldn't work as my mind is totally numbed, knackered and nausea. Due to the side effects, I throw up like nobody business today.

I'm meeting my physiatrist again next monday to see if can solve my root cause to ease my conditions. I try not to be dependent on sleeping pills. Basically 2025 my most important plan is religion support, continue workout, further studies again (new title), pick up my old hobbies. Love myself more as I've been neglecting myself. I not sure if keeping myself busy works for my conditions? Most probably no more business again this year as I'm really out of hand.

Can I have sharings of your journey? At least I know I'm not alone or maybe brainstorming on certain part I probably missed out. This point, I'm feeling very very very super duper sick, felt like standing side of a cliff and it really took me alot of courage to type this out because maybe there is other perspectives which im missing out. Please don't bash me. I just need help.

Mod may remove this topic if inappropriate here. Thanks.

Update 27/1 - No advice needed anymore. Its still long way to go.. Thank you sekalian.

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post Jan 10 2025, 06:48 AM

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Yes I feel the pinch seeing my psychiatrist, it cost me RM500 this round. Not sure about next round. I will look for my family dr for 3rd visit. When I came out from his room, I was shocked seeing other patients which much more severe symptoms than me. It could be me, if I still neglect my siren.

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I stopped exercise almost a week. Thus I decided go for a short gateway alone next week.

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post Jan 10 2025, 06:55 AM

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I'm buddhism. I do bow to buddha daily (my homework). Yes I do camping as well, I will purposely choose the place with no connection. I agree with hiking and nature because it's what I loved to as well. Thanks for the suggestion, I've forgotten about this.

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Would you mind to further elaborate with "swayed by external factors" to me? Thanks

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post Jan 10 2025, 07:05 AM

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I'm no longer single, root cause of all of this is due to relationships. So both of us going to see physiatrist together next week to solve our problems.


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True also. I was shocked when I made the payment. Consultation fees cost RM200. Medication RM300. But I know I need something to stop the monkey mind first. Thanks for the suggestion, will look out for therapist see if helps.

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post Jan 10 2025, 07:27 AM

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My current medication is vortiozetine and clonazepam. It does stopped my monkey mind, but my feeling is quite numb, stopped working for 2 days already. I told my dr thats why i dislike to take psy. Besides, I try to change myself not to ranting and negative to my close friends.
Yes I sit down and write, like i keep on writing these days. Questioning myself. I not sure if this the right way. However I must admit I'm terrible at meditation. Relationships is my root cause. Hopefully next session with dr can help a little bit. Current self control on mind is super weak. I'm too fatigue.

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Yes agree.

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I'm on going clean diet recently, my friend told me clean diet do affect emotions. Abit usure with this statement.


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post Jan 10 2025, 07:40 AM

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Whenever I starts the monkey mind, I exercise. Recently stopped due to mind fatigue. Too tired until i able to sleep whole day. But the mind is restlsss, which caused me worst
Thanks for the encouragement, I will force myself to workout again. True, we complicated life, and life is too short to waste our time. I don't want to give myself too many excuses without trying.

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Being in a relationship is the most tired thing I ever done. White flag for me. 放过我 T.T

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post Jan 10 2025, 08:03 AM

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Thank you for all the kind words, encouragements and suggestions. At the moment my mind is truly numbed and high level of fatigue. But I will slowly digest it. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

For other lyn who experiencing this, you're not alone.
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post Jan 10 2025, 02:08 PM

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Thanks for the input. I didn't thought of going GH. This is a good alternative choice.
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post Jan 10 2025, 02:14 PM

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Yes that's why we will go for 1st session next week.

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I told my dr yes I want the monkey mind to be control first before my condition worsens, my symptoms is getting severe and affected my life.
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post Jan 10 2025, 02:16 PM

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I do agree the influential with positive groups .
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post Jan 10 2025, 02:34 PM

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Hello, i do read all helpful inputs, but maybe due to medications. Mentally quite exhausted to answer all. Because I sleepy whole day. I did read, just take some times to digest.
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post Jan 13 2025, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(lovecats @ Jan 10 2025, 02:33 PM)
Depression and anxiety ruined my life. Quit my studies and work because of it. Now I'm just rotting away at home crying how my life would've been different if I'm not sick. Gonna be 32 this year with nothing to show. I just smoke away so that I can get heart attack. For me there's no way out. I hope you will find a way out.
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For me, if I have problems, I will keep on finding way to solve it. It maybe good, maybe bad.

QUOTE(anakkk @ Jan 10 2025, 02:39 PM)
perhaps you did not live your life according to your inner voice.

I have been through your situation, still on medication with gomen hospital.

if you know chinese, you can listen to Dr Hsu Tien Sheng video on youtube, and pick up meditation, that helps me a lot, I also practise qi gong, that also helps.
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May I know hows the environment at gomen? I can't accept the environment at GH and KK.

QUOTE(kawa_e @ Jan 10 2025, 03:47 PM)
We may not have the same issue but you are not alone.
I am not a normal person. I am going to be 39y this year with ntg. Life has been stagnant in every aspect. Feels like trapped since born. Often wish I could be diff like everyone else.. achieving some milestones in their life. The only way out is to accept it is what it is by changing perspective or just wasting away..
I am in between and it is a struggle.
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I think we all achieve milestones at certain part. Like me, currently Im quite stagnant in my career, but its what I want, work life balance.
This 3 months I've been actively cycling, just hit 200km ride yesterday. That's an achievement for me. What pushed me further is, start small, just do it.
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post Jan 13 2025, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(lovecats @ Jan 10 2025, 03:51 PM)
Hey thanks. It's nice to know I'm not alone. Really appreciate it.

I'm in between too and it's hard. Giving up is playing in my mind most of the time
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Please don't give up. For so many times I feel like dying, I tell myself, just give it last shot.

QUOTE(rayeonlee @ Jan 10 2025, 04:37 PM)
TS, could you elaborate on the second statement, it seems like its a huge contributing factor to your depression and anxiety
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I've been giving out alot in a relationship especially money, thus I will have high expectations, perhaps same return. We are totally different personality and family background. However, I realised that I couldnt change a person. For now, I just want to make a peace to the old story, acceptance of different human personality.

QUOTE(Super2047 @ Jan 10 2025, 07:13 PM)
Not to worry. Personally I have seen a few close people with anxiety/depression and with professional psychiatrist treatment, they are all well and back to normal daily life.
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Yes. Hopefully.
That day when I came out from the room, I saw other patients which conditions much more severe than me. Like totally cannot themselves, lying on the chair with unknown, another one keep on blinking her eyes.
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post Jan 13 2025, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(Ruris @ Jan 11 2025, 10:24 AM)
Hi ning, and others with similar issues
Just to add on a bit,
A) you mention repeatedly that you have a monkey brain (adhd, ocd as well? ) issue and you want to resolve that first. Just my comments,  just be open that you may need to resolve some other deep rooted issue.
B) some commenter here focus on psychological help with medical, but never really described their own personal experience
C) as someone that went to usmc for a while, I can tell you that you will likely (ymmv) experience a clear difference in the beginning due to a combination of meds (most likely some anti depressant of the ssri type, some sleep/relaxant combo, etc). But eventually I don't really feel it's impact anymore after my other solutions become stronger.
D) don't put too much expectations on the psychology part, I didn't at least. I will leave this part for you, depending on how much fund you have (consulting charges).
E) use multiple solutions at once. 2 or more ways to win, no way to lose.Mental, physical, family/friends (reliable ones) and spiritual (this one hits hard for me)
F) create a routine that you can do consistently, and don't drop off. Even I feel like depression creeping if I got lazy in certain aspects

Have a blessed day
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Hello Ruris. I dont have OCD, or ADHD. I always try to understand my own feeling, reflecting myself. But I do get some cooling period to make sure I dont confused my own feelings. However I think this time the medication is quite impactful that I became forgetful. Normally I will tell my psychiatrist what do I think, what I wanna do next and ask for opinion. Don't feel like wasting our time and money.

She asked me how I feel for the session today. I told her: It was getting tense, and my anxiety level is getting up.
Its really mind fatigue after the session and I slept whole afternoon again.

In reality life, when I without my partner, Im truly ok. But when with him, everything became uneasy again. I guess that's the part need to be fix.

QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jan 11 2025, 08:26 PM)
1 thing I learned is not to stop taking the medication because "I'm feeling better now, I think I'll do fine". It is rookie mistake.

I have accepted that my brain needed something extra just to make me able to function like regular people. At first it feels like I'm some sort of pussy that not able to rawdog the world. But then I realized, this pills are sort of 'crutches' for my mental - just like people with broken bones need external support. So it's nothing wrong needing to take medications to help with what you're lacking.

So far this time is the longest time I stick with the appointments - it has been a little more than a year and half now. First diagnosed probably a decade ago, with symptoms appearing way earlier than that. I can say for sure that I do definitely feeling better.
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True, I agree that medication is important, dont stop because Im feeling better. I did that 7 years ago.

And I also learned that we must express our feeling, hiding emotions will lead to bigger boom.

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post Jan 13 2025, 08:19 PM

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Yes I think before, when I search back the drug name. I cant remember clearly as it was too long ago.

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If Im not married, yes I can end it immediately.

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Yes you got on point 1, & 2. Yes I write to break down my thoughts, my feeling as the medicine side effects hit me quite hard for this time.
At a point when I feel so monkey mind, I workout like day and night, twice daily until I really drained myself.


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I used to have pet. But after she died, I really can't have new pet anymore. Same but different.

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Yes I just finished one course of nexium. Does this affect?

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post Jan 13 2025, 08:28 PM

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Thanks all. After 7 days medication I'm better. So I try to reply all when I'm ok. As medication hit hard on mind, I get fatigue easily and forgetful. Today just finished 1st session so, next week will meet up again with my Dr. I got some thoughts in my mind already, need to f2f discuss with her to see how to improve the situations.

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post Jan 13 2025, 08:38 PM

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Yes I've been forcing myself to workout. Until my workout is improving like lighting speed.

Indeed letting go is important, I want to make peace to the past. Wanted to discuss with my Dr next round on this topic.

Maybe you can elaborate more on taming the monkey brain part to me?


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Thanks, I will try it out. So far in our list I done on sunshine part. Supplements not yet.

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I have one friend say the exactly same thing. Problem is people touch my body, but my mind still monkey inside.

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post Jan 13 2025, 08:45 PM

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I must admit that my mind is weak. Always try to have mind > emotion. Some years I do feel good, but when the bad moment returns, feel like all my hard work to have strong mind ruined again in a second.

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Im in my mid 30s, imagine I started in lyn since 2005. 20 years passed.

What do you mean by stagnant? Or perhaps, in other words, you got a simple life.
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post Jan 13 2025, 09:30 PM

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Yes this week Im off from base.


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Opposite, Im female.


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Its my thought as well. I've been telling him I want to move back to my parents house, and I do tell my Dr too, she told me that perhaps will worsens because I tend to runaway, its not solving the problem. We got one child, my intention try not to affect my kid. For this week, I can temporary let this go this topic as Im out for business trip for a week.
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post Jan 13 2025, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jan 13 2025, 09:20 PM)
depends on which hospital you go, I going to Kajang one, small hospital.

one thing for sure, parking is bad, treatment is cheap RM5, just that every time my appointment, I am seeing diff doctor :X
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I decided give chance to my private Dr today (she mentioned maybe around 6 sessions) after we discussed about money vs cost-effectiveness.

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