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post Jan 10 2025, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(kawa_e @ Jan 10 2025, 03:47 PM)
We may not have the same issue but you are not alone.
I am not a normal person. I am going to be 39y this year with ntg. Life has been stagnant in every aspect. Feels like trapped since born. Often wish I could be diff like everyone else.. achieving some milestones in their life. The only way out is to accept it is what it is by changing perspective or just wasting away..
I am in between and it is a struggle.
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Hey thanks. It's nice to know I'm not alone. Really appreciate it.

I'm in between too and it's hard. Giving up is playing in my mind most of the time

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post Jan 10 2025, 04:37 PM

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Whenever I starts the monkey mind, I exercise. Recently stopped due to mind fatigue. Too tired until i able to sleep whole day. But the mind is restlsss, which caused me worst
Thanks for the encouragement, I will force myself to workout again. True, we complicated life, and life is too short to waste our time. I don't want to give myself too many excuses without trying.

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Being in a relationship is the most tired thing I ever done. White flag for me. 放过我 T.T
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TS, could you elaborate on the second statement, it seems like its a huge contributing factor to your depression and anxiety
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post Jan 10 2025, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(NinG @ Jan 10 2025, 02:14 PM)
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Yes that's why we will go for 1st session next week.

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I told my dr yes I want the monkey mind to be control first before my condition worsens, my symptoms is getting severe and affected my life.
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Not to worry. Personally I have seen a few close people with anxiety/depression and with professional psychiatrist treatment, they are all well and back to normal daily life.
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post Jan 11 2025, 10:24 AM

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Hi ning, and others with similar issues
Just to add on a bit,
A) you mention repeatedly that you have a monkey brain (adhd, ocd as well? ) issue and you want to resolve that first. Just my comments, just be open that you may need to resolve some other deep rooted issue.
B) some commenter here focus on psychological help with medical, but never really described their own personal experience
C) as someone that went to usmc for a while, I can tell you that you will likely (ymmv) experience a clear difference in the beginning due to a combination of meds (most likely some anti depressant of the ssri type, some sleep/relaxant combo, etc). But eventually I don't really feel it's impact anymore after my other solutions become stronger.
D) don't put too much expectations on the psychology part, I didn't at least. I will leave this part for you, depending on how much fund you have (consulting charges).
E) use multiple solutions at once. 2 or more ways to win, no way to lose.Mental, physical, family/friends (reliable ones) and spiritual (this one hits hard for me)
F) create a routine that you can do consistently, and don't drop off. Even I feel like depression creeping if I got lazy in certain aspects

Have a blessed day

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post Jan 11 2025, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(lovecats @ Jan 10 2025, 03:51 PM)
Hey thanks. It's nice to know I'm not alone. Really appreciate it.

I'm in between too and it's hard. Giving up is playing in my mind most of the time
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Thank you too.
If the decision or things are life changing events (at least for me) then I guess it will take time or not.
I have been in this position for the longest time. Sometime I feel like if I don't make any changes then I will live a life like this until death takes me. Therefore it isn't a normalcy. Other ppl have it easily.
Been to counsellor for almost a year. Not sure whether is my issue or her but things are still stagnant.
I am still the same before and after meeting her. Like a high schooler only broken and older.
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post Jan 11 2025, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(kawa_e @ Jan 11 2025, 12:35 PM)
Like a high schooler only broken and older.
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This resonate with me so much. This is me for a long time.


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post Jan 11 2025, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(kawa_e @ Jan 11 2025, 12:35 PM)
Thank you too.
If the decision or things are life changing events (at least for me) then I guess it will take time or not.
I have been in this position for the longest time. Sometime I feel like if I don't make any changes then I will live a life like this until death takes me. Therefore it isn't a normalcy. Other ppl have it easily.
Been to counsellor for almost a year. Not sure whether is my issue or her but things are still stagnant.
I am still the same before and after meeting her. Like a high schooler only broken and older.
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I'm assuming you are male. Contemporary psychologist / counsellor unfortunately does not do much to help males because we are men of action, we must take action to solve the root cause of our issue which often is not easy, if feasible at all. Unlike women can often talk their way out and let the issue fixes itself.

I assume your counsellor is probably the kind that tells you don't worry be happy there are people have it worse than you tomorrow will be better that kind of cliche stuff.

Sorry if I'm wrong on my assumptions. But take care regardless
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post Jan 11 2025, 08:26 PM

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1 thing I learned is not to stop taking the medication because "I'm feeling better now, I think I'll do fine". It is rookie mistake.

I have accepted that my brain needed something extra just to make me able to function like regular people. At first it feels like I'm some sort of pussy that not able to rawdog the world. But then I realized, this pills are sort of 'crutches' for my mental - just like people with broken bones need external support. So it's nothing wrong needing to take medications to help with what you're lacking.

So far this time is the longest time I stick with the appointments - it has been a little more than a year and half now. First diagnosed probably a decade ago, with symptoms appearing way earlier than that. I can say for sure that I do definitely feeling better.
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post Jan 13 2025, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Chanwsan @ Jan 11 2025, 05:49 PM)
I'm assuming you are male. Contemporary psychologist / counsellor unfortunately does not do much to help males because we are men of action, we must take action to solve the root cause of our issue which often is not easy, if feasible at all. Unlike women can often talk their way out and let the issue fixes itself.
Counsellor that I went to only listen to me venting. When things get stuck for so long, it may become permanent. I am quite resenting how my life turns out. I cant blame anyone as it is my choice. I have a choice and I chose to stay in it. So I only get to pick "suck it up or leave"

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I assume your counsellor is probably the kind that tells you don't worry be happy there are people have it worse than you tomorrow will be better that kind of cliche stuff.

Sorry if I'm wrong on my assumptions. But take care regardless
Yes. Invalidation. My friends did it more.
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post Jan 13 2025, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(lovecats @ Jan 10 2025, 02:33 PM)
Depression and anxiety ruined my life. Quit my studies and work because of it. Now I'm just rotting away at home crying how my life would've been different if I'm not sick. Gonna be 32 this year with nothing to show. I just smoke away so that I can get heart attack. For me there's no way out. I hope you will find a way out.
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For me, if I have problems, I will keep on finding way to solve it. It maybe good, maybe bad.

QUOTE(anakkk @ Jan 10 2025, 02:39 PM)
perhaps you did not live your life according to your inner voice.

I have been through your situation, still on medication with gomen hospital.

if you know chinese, you can listen to Dr Hsu Tien Sheng video on youtube, and pick up meditation, that helps me a lot, I also practise qi gong, that also helps.
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May I know hows the environment at gomen? I can't accept the environment at GH and KK.

QUOTE(kawa_e @ Jan 10 2025, 03:47 PM)
We may not have the same issue but you are not alone.
I am not a normal person. I am going to be 39y this year with ntg. Life has been stagnant in every aspect. Feels like trapped since born. Often wish I could be diff like everyone else.. achieving some milestones in their life. The only way out is to accept it is what it is by changing perspective or just wasting away..
I am in between and it is a struggle.
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I think we all achieve milestones at certain part. Like me, currently Im quite stagnant in my career, but its what I want, work life balance.
This 3 months I've been actively cycling, just hit 200km ride yesterday. That's an achievement for me. What pushed me further is, start small, just do it.
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post Jan 13 2025, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(lovecats @ Jan 10 2025, 03:51 PM)
Hey thanks. It's nice to know I'm not alone. Really appreciate it.

I'm in between too and it's hard. Giving up is playing in my mind most of the time
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Please don't give up. For so many times I feel like dying, I tell myself, just give it last shot.

QUOTE(rayeonlee @ Jan 10 2025, 04:37 PM)
TS, could you elaborate on the second statement, it seems like its a huge contributing factor to your depression and anxiety
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I've been giving out alot in a relationship especially money, thus I will have high expectations, perhaps same return. We are totally different personality and family background. However, I realised that I couldnt change a person. For now, I just want to make a peace to the old story, acceptance of different human personality.

QUOTE(Super2047 @ Jan 10 2025, 07:13 PM)
Not to worry. Personally I have seen a few close people with anxiety/depression and with professional psychiatrist treatment, they are all well and back to normal daily life.
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Yes. Hopefully.
That day when I came out from the room, I saw other patients which conditions much more severe than me. Like totally cannot themselves, lying on the chair with unknown, another one keep on blinking her eyes.
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post Jan 13 2025, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(Ruris @ Jan 11 2025, 10:24 AM)
Hi ning, and others with similar issues
Just to add on a bit,
A) you mention repeatedly that you have a monkey brain (adhd, ocd as well? ) issue and you want to resolve that first. Just my comments,  just be open that you may need to resolve some other deep rooted issue.
B) some commenter here focus on psychological help with medical, but never really described their own personal experience
C) as someone that went to usmc for a while, I can tell you that you will likely (ymmv) experience a clear difference in the beginning due to a combination of meds (most likely some anti depressant of the ssri type, some sleep/relaxant combo, etc). But eventually I don't really feel it's impact anymore after my other solutions become stronger.
D) don't put too much expectations on the psychology part, I didn't at least. I will leave this part for you, depending on how much fund you have (consulting charges).
E) use multiple solutions at once. 2 or more ways to win, no way to lose.Mental, physical, family/friends (reliable ones) and spiritual (this one hits hard for me)
F) create a routine that you can do consistently, and don't drop off. Even I feel like depression creeping if I got lazy in certain aspects

Have a blessed day
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Hello Ruris. I dont have OCD, or ADHD. I always try to understand my own feeling, reflecting myself. But I do get some cooling period to make sure I dont confused my own feelings. However I think this time the medication is quite impactful that I became forgetful. Normally I will tell my psychiatrist what do I think, what I wanna do next and ask for opinion. Don't feel like wasting our time and money.

She asked me how I feel for the session today. I told her: It was getting tense, and my anxiety level is getting up.
Its really mind fatigue after the session and I slept whole afternoon again.

In reality life, when I without my partner, Im truly ok. But when with him, everything became uneasy again. I guess that's the part need to be fix.

QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jan 11 2025, 08:26 PM)
1 thing I learned is not to stop taking the medication because "I'm feeling better now, I think I'll do fine". It is rookie mistake.

I have accepted that my brain needed something extra just to make me able to function like regular people. At first it feels like I'm some sort of pussy that not able to rawdog the world. But then I realized, this pills are sort of 'crutches' for my mental - just like people with broken bones need external support. So it's nothing wrong needing to take medications to help with what you're lacking.

So far this time is the longest time I stick with the appointments - it has been a little more than a year and half now. First diagnosed probably a decade ago, with symptoms appearing way earlier than that. I can say for sure that I do definitely feeling better.
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True, I agree that medication is important, dont stop because Im feeling better. I did that 7 years ago.

And I also learned that we must express our feeling, hiding emotions will lead to bigger boom.

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post Jan 13 2025, 08:18 PM

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post Jan 13 2025, 08:19 PM

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Yes I think before, when I search back the drug name. I cant remember clearly as it was too long ago.

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If Im not married, yes I can end it immediately.

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Yes you got on point 1, & 2. Yes I write to break down my thoughts, my feeling as the medicine side effects hit me quite hard for this time.
At a point when I feel so monkey mind, I workout like day and night, twice daily until I really drained myself.


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I used to have pet. But after she died, I really can't have new pet anymore. Same but different.

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Yes I just finished one course of nexium. Does this affect?

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post Jan 13 2025, 08:28 PM

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Thanks all. After 7 days medication I'm better. So I try to reply all when I'm ok. As medication hit hard on mind, I get fatigue easily and forgetful. Today just finished 1st session so, next week will meet up again with my Dr. I got some thoughts in my mind already, need to f2f discuss with her to see how to improve the situations.

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post Jan 13 2025, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(kawa_e @ Jan 10 2025, 11:45 AM)
How old are you TS if mind asking ? Early 20/30 or late 20/30.

By the way as another member said you need a psychologist/counsellor/therapist because physiatrist will just keep giving you pills to temporarily rest your mind. You need to solve the root cause to this. If relationship is the issue, perhaps look for couple therapy. I wish you well.

I went to my usual GP and was prescribed Xanax. I am almost to the point of abusing it because the dosage given to me no longer works. I don't really depend on it now because I still have to face my issues the next day.

I am in my late 30s here and dealing with stagnant life (in every aspect)
I feel like I have to live this way on autopilot until my last breathe for my sanity. Sometimes when the body and mind can no longer take it, you will be numb automatically as a way to cope.
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QUOTE(kawa_e @ Jan 10 2025, 03:47 PM)
We may not have the same issue but you are not alone.
I am not a normal person. I am going to be 39y this year with ntg. Life has been stagnant in every aspect. Feels like trapped since born. Often wish I could be diff like everyone else.. achieving some milestones in their life. The only way out is to accept it is what it is by changing perspective or just wasting away..
I am in between and it is a struggle.
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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Jan 12 2025, 12:42 PM)
Talk about lung cancer, Smoking also not yet ban
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Just curious you all depress due to GF, foreveralone, feel life too average, feeling old like those 30s 40s only few decade life yet achieve nothing.


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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 10 2025, 10:57 AM)
Thats a contributing factor..major or minor. There are a lot more contributing factor TS is aware or unaware of. Insight only can be gained with knowledge. If the mind and body is strong, emotion will be more resilliant.
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True. From my experience it is unlikely a single factor will cause depression. Need multi factors combine to cause depression
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Yes I've been forcing myself to workout. Until my workout is improving like lighting speed.

Indeed letting go is important, I want to make peace to the past. Wanted to discuss with my Dr next round on this topic.

Maybe you can elaborate more on taming the monkey brain part to me?


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Thanks, I will try it out. So far in our list I done on sunshine part. Supplements not yet.

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I have one friend say the exactly same thing. Problem is people touch my body, but my mind still monkey inside.

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I must admit that my mind is weak. Always try to have mind > emotion. Some years I do feel good, but when the bad moment returns, feel like all my hard work to have strong mind ruined again in a second.

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Im in my mid 30s, imagine I started in lyn since 2005. 20 years passed.

What do you mean by stagnant? Or perhaps, in other words, you got a simple life.
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post Jan 13 2025, 08:59 PM

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Try going out frequently. No need to spend any money when you go outside

I mean, just walk around the park, or anywhere else.

It's part of activity that can reduce the depression and anxiety

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