Dear FnF sifus, I've been a silent reader all these while and finally registered and need opinions about cars.


I'm currently driving a civic RS 2022 and i've been having issues with my steering racks up till today.
Total claimed 3 times and now the sticky/tuk sound is back..


Recently went to have a look at the mazda 3 and kinda interested on the liftback ignite.
I'm thinking to just pull the trigger because of ulang alik Honda SC, and i dont think the steering rack issue will solve anytime soon seeing the complaints on FB
Space is not much of an issue as my wife is driving a Veloz, and i have another Estima at home.

How's Mazda 3? any well known issue for the current version? Just want a fun car to drive and less to zero headaches at least for 5 years.

Thanks

when does the sound appear?

during slow speed turning etc?

or everytime u turn the wheel?

i've posted a review on the Mazda 3 thread (in car clubs sub forum)
i personally think the CBU tax is not worth it, and the car overall is overhyped.

the dynamics is just not there and i prefer the CVT way more than the 6 speed slosh box. if i need to work on a car to reap the rewards of fun and engaging drive, i have a far better 3 pedal manual actual sports car.

that said, if you are not happy with the Civic, then you don't exactly have much choices between the Altis and the Mazda 3.

My mech mentioned FC model got see blown engine granted they push but Honta is not as reliable as it was with FD or what not. Anyone convincing you about CVT is crack cz rate of failure is higher then that of traditional torque convertor. That said Mazda isn't cheap to maintain but it isn't a lemon. Personally lean on Mazda as Honda can experience torque steer during shift and slightly aggressive throttle.

have you test driven the Mazda?
can you accept the power first because you are coming from a more powerful car.

not just that, on D auto and tall gearing 6 speed, it'll tend to sit on higher gears and that elevates the lack of power issue.

comparatively, the CVT is constantly trying to keep in optimal power band under full boost max torque. so the end result is day and night difference when it comes to power and driving dynamics.

then that traditional shock absorbers and rear torsion beam. ugh. lol. the global model Civic FE is just leagues ahead. you only even look at the Mazda if you cannot Civic and/or CVT or steering rack.

test driven the cx30 because there's no mazda 3 test drive car.

ok la acceptable as im just living in a small town, and occasionally highway drives only

true.. my max budget would be aroud 200k..

some friends asked me to have a look at china cars/ EVs, any recommendations?

not really, because i am biased against EV.

That said, Honda EHEV is fairly interesting. and touch wood, not sure if its because the new VGR steering, it doesn't share the same issue with Civic / City etc steering rack issue.

maybe used BMW 3 series? seem to fit the budget

The rack issue has been long around on their entire catalogue of cars those build around after 2016. I'm on a 2nd steering rack on HRV. Just avoid this rubbish brand.

If you think steering rack issue only for Honda, your gonna be wrong. All electrical type steering rack if driven harsh also will encounter issue, just google and go read in forums, Mazda, Toyota electric type steering rack been piling with claims and repair also.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Aug 8 2024, 04:04 PM

just get gr86

but is it as frequent as Honda civic's rack?
My FE only 20k mileage, going soon for my 4th claim.. Even product recall rack by Honda, just changed in April now defect again

i'm co owning the Current latest HRV EHEV

no steering rack issue (yet)

I have heard & seen a lot of people think that modern cars with EPS is light, easy to turn and abuse it. Just google about "Dry Steering" even tho it is electric motor assist major components like gear, shalf, seals still similar with other power steering. Daily seen people turn max steering while idling, went thru corners & bad road condition at high speed and worse with those big heavy sport rims. Last time many cars use small sport rims, tire is thicker. So even use old hydraulic type power steering the thick tire and soft suspension settings can help absorb a lot of impact from bad road condition. Nowadays modern car all terbalik and expect more lasting.

I don’t expect my civic steering rack in 20k change 3 racks to be more lasting. And I never turn max my steering until the end.

20k km with 3 faulty racks , I definitely expect it to be more lasting!

Will be interesting if someone has some statistics on the steering rack failure rate on Civic FE on both 215/55R16 and 235/40ZR18 tyre sizes.

off topic a bit. Used to test dry steering on 3 different tyre width on Iswara A/B with no power steering; 175, 185 and 195. 195 width is really almost impossible.to turn, need to have muscle to turn it. On 175, it is quite manageable. That's how much the extra stress on the power steering system with just extra 20mm tyre width.

My Grand Livina with 10 years of EPS is trouble free. Similarly my old Myvi from 2006 and EPS is trouble free too, its now 18 years.

So, nothing to do with EPS or road condition. Honda is fcuking up royally and they just don't seem to want to solve this. I know for sure there is no major OEM that wants to solve something like this cannot solve it from just plainly buying any 10 year old 2nd hand Toyota or Nissan and reverse engineering it. My Honda has very fat tyres, smaller rims.

Yes, I too am going to change my steering rack on my Civic for the 3rd time imminently - that's if the Honda service ang kongs in my service center got the right mood to accept the claim.

This post has been edited by lee82gx: Aug 8 2024, 07:35 PM

Let’s say they let us change new rack for 3rd 4th time… after few months come back again

It’s just like husband curi makan with the same girl again and again after kena caught first time 😂

2 options
-Continue with the husband and close eye let him curi makan again and again, wife day day emo and geram
- divorce

This post has been edited by squareballs: Aug 8 2024, 07:57 PM

Yes, that why a lot of people think EPS is light then go turn here n there without care. If you driven cars without power steering you will know how stress the steering box with bigger, heavier sport rims and tire. Nowadays a lot of car manufacturer just want to get sales and go for outlook to trap those new owners, any issue they will use warranty to claim within the 5 years but after that your problem already.

I driven cars with no power steering like classic 71' VW beetle and also Kancil 660, like your experience. Original tire width only 165/80/R15 (VW), last time when i took over from my dad i pandai pandai go change 195/65/R15 due to some poor advice from tire shop, in the end i suffer for it.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Aug 9 2024, 08:39 AM

The only one who can produce reliable statistics on this is actually HONDA and the EPS system vendor themselves. Not sure how you expect anyone else to do that.

Anecdotally the only other 215/55r16 user Quazacolt and myself (the only 2 E-spec Honda Civic I am aware) both have suffered steering rack failure already, so lets call it 100% in my book.

Everyone else attribute to V and RS. So all also kaput aje lah. Why bother trying to help Honda if they don't want to help themselves? They already have a mountain of failure parts in their inventory. What statistic also can come out liao.

Fool me once, fool me twice eh.
Anger is definitely one way of dealing with grief, I have moved on to acceptance - just drive it and shut up....every few months go and claim steering rack and make fuss on internet haha.

Although I cannot rule out divorce too. Its always in the options.

BTW, I stupidly asked the salesman how is the FE steering rack compared to FC before buying, have they fixed it yet he didn't even blink and told me yes confirm. Bodohnyer aku.

But only left with Corolla Altis and that is suchhh a slugggggggg.......Got my eye on a Corolla Cross do you guys know if the power steering supplier is same?

This post has been edited by lee82gx: Aug 9 2024, 09:19 AM

Amazingly this steering rack issue continue for so long.

Bought new in 2017 Civic FC 1.8s and claimed in July 2020. And sold it in 2022.

Dont bother. Similar unsolvable knocking noise issue like Civic except for the 3 series its the tie rods instead of steering rack. Continuous claims needed

Yeah I don't even have the motivation to even bother test driving the Altis lol
I don't buy into their (lackluster, mind I add) marketing lol

No idea on their power steering supplier, I assume different as never heard of CC faced issues.

But, SUV hahaha.
Maybe CC hybrid is decent? If my experience on Honda HRV EHEV is anything close to CC hybrid

From a civic to Altis.. I rather drive back my FE with sticky rack 😅

This post has been edited by squareballs: Aug 10 2024, 12:32 PM

I have test driven the hybrid CC and it is super for 0-50 and immediately stalls.
Very comfortable seats (compared to ehem the worst car seats I have ever sat on the FE E-spec) and is decent across a bump.

All in all I only regret the size a little at the back.

Dislike the footbrake but its been resolved on the mini update.

Altis is definitely also a good car, but driver must always remember dont flash high beam when they are at the back of FE, itu sahaja, hahahaa

Since you got estima and veloz, If you like the Mazda design, then can just buy Mazda 3 2.0L for your own drive. It is a car for driver to enjoy, can try 2.0 hatchback version. the cornering performance is better than civic fe, maybe because it is not sedan plus the good GVC control. More fun in driving based on my experience when I drive my cousin car go up genting with him.

So far my cousin has been driving it for 3 years, no issue heard. And my civic v also turning 3 years, no steering issue also, lol. Maybe is really depend on luck.

In terms of power, I will think civic engine is slightly better, not much difference. maybe I get more use to the 1.5T. Overall Mazda 2.0 hatchback more fun.

This post has been edited by Jingle91: Aug 11 2024, 09:21 AM

Last time when the FE come out raised this concern but many potential owner said sure ok now on FE, my buddies with current gen City already having this steering rack nightmare. 5th time steering rack within 2 years for his, pro, Honda SC kinda ok no issues we claim it under warranty. But that doesn't mean he is happy cz burn many free time, grab car fees cz that appointment need weekdays only, so drop car at SC and taking grab to office. He sold the car late last year cz even on 5th rack, problem persist back.

He and me definitely wont repeat any HM car back in the future. No stern action were thrown in by HM for problematic parts/vendor. They known to pampered the brake pad suppliers, made in Thai (but cost rm700/pair) when it will juddering at high speed, only solved via aftermarket pad.

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Aug 11 2024, 09:25 AM

wow, did not expect bmw also having this issue..

Thanks for the feedback.. good to hear your civic has no steering issue..

so far there's no test drive car for mazda 3.. SA offer to test the cx30 instead.. will arrange time to test it..

I thought only me and my wife having issue with the seats on FE. its like no support on our ass bones. sakit buntut

I’ve driven Cx-30 for a short 30 minute drive. Engine lacked oomph, well no engine beats the l15t under myr 160k. Otherwise a normal 2.0L NA affair.
Super cramped at the back (I am used to seating at the rear for work lunch) only small kids will be ok. Leg room and hip room is poor. Mazda 3 I suppose will be similar engine wise so as long as you are ok with the space and price it’s a fine looking car. So fine.

Not sure about Mazda 3. Rear seat for CX30 is definitely better than Mazda 3.

Rear seat for tall people like 180cm above its really not comfortable even for my previous car Civic 1.8s it's the same.

I think all Japanese car rear seat are shortened that's why so uncomfortable.

I love the liftback design but cx30 have better overall utility.

Mazda cars are made for drivers only, those rear seats mostly cater for small kids. For CX5, 2, 3 & 30 series can consider as 2+2 settings.
Only Mazda 6 above the rear seats still ok for adults. If your claustrophobia gg, as i got friend with CX5 fetch parents 1 time go out 2nd time no more want to seat in the rear seat as they felt very tight/small space. Thus why i always feedback if possible go test drive with family members if want to fetch family out in the same car and hear their feedback.

I'm sort of in the same boat, looking for cars around max 170k budget. My candidates included Corolla Cross, CX30, Subaru XV, Peugeot 408, Civic (eHEV) and Model 3. And I've test drove all of them

In the end I booked CX30

Why? It just ticks all my boxes, comfortable seats and driving position (lumbar support makes a huge difference), good design, all you can ask for when it comes to spec and tech (I booked H+ P), its more practical than the Mazda 3 and spec'ed similarly with a lower price. Rear seats not a big issue for me since its gonna be unoccupied most of the time but for a 178cm guy sitting behind my driver position i find the space to be sufficient, the only main issue was the backrest is set a bit too upright, I guess this where all the complaints about uncomfortable comes from. Would've been perfect it comes with adjustable recline. And most people say the engine is underpowered. If you look at the numbers yes it does seem so IF and WHEN you compare it to turbos, but IMO many people nowadays are too spoilt with turbos that they forgot how to drive a NA. Just rev that baby up and it goes....

For the rest of the choices here are my opinions


Corolla Cross
- Actually if I'm a family man this is my choice. The suspension setting is more balanced compared to the slightly firm and sport bias tune of the CX30. Rear space no need further emphasis. Hybrid is definitely more efficient and power is enough for daily use if you are not chasing numbers. Design wise.... it's a Toyota but in a slightly good way, for a reliable A to B family car what more you could ask for? Overall this is not the car you are looking for if you want some excitement (maybe the only excitement is the fuel savings lol)

Subaru XV
- this came close to kicking CX30 off my list after test driving. AWD + double rear wishbones makes all the difference. Also with rebates this is one of the cheapest amongst the candidates, you are getting a lot of drivability and mechanical 'premium' with the money. However what stopped me is mainly the design (it's a Subaru lol, I probably wouldn't mind but my partner is making a fuss out of it), and the direction of the whole brand in this country is uncertain under TC. Also if you feel CX30 is underpowered, wait till you try the XV. The CVT and engine combo is considered OK actually, but I just can't stand it reving at a fixed rpm constantly and the car doesn't seem to go, add on the AWD and you get even more power loss. This behaviour is more obvious during uphill condition. Maybe a turbo like Civic or HRV would've helped.

Pug 408
- Was looking at the premium spec. If you are adventurous enough, just wanted to look different on the roads, by all means go for it. This have the best drivability amongst the crossovers I've tested, 1.6T + 8AT does its job. You got design both interior and exterior as well although some people are mixed about the exterior. If only the brand have a better reputation when it comes to reliability especially electrical components. I'm not mentioning the drivetrain because I believe that is fine under proper maintenance. But I've seen a few owners reported electrical faults and issues in the owner group, for a newly launched model that's not exactly confidence inspiring...

My priority choice is a crossover actually but i went ahead and test drove 2 sedans because both of them offer something special that I might consider going after

Civic eHEV
- I was tempted by the rebates (currently offering 10 - 12k) and the drivetrain. Test drove the car, yes the drivetrain is amazing, power and efficiency in one package and that's where the story ends. The seats are horrible, no offence to all the Civic owners but no way this is a better seat than Mazda or even Toyota at the same range. I was actually willing to even take a gamble with the steering rack lottery because the drivetrain is that good (CRV eHEV is out of my budget) but the seats are such a dealbreaker. The front passenger seat is even worse that my partner was complaining about it, I tried it and I agree. Honda this is a supposed to be a family car why the f is the front passenger seat set so unnecessarily low? At least give a manual height adjustment? I know its a rare thing but still...

Model 3
- Most expensive of the bunch and I really need to stretch my budget a bit for it but its still below 200k so I can stomach it probably, however in terms of value this is also very high up there, for 181k you are getting A LOT of car and more than that. Most power and tech of the bunch as well and drives unlike any other, its an EV afterall with fully independent suspension all around (double wishbones front and multilink rears iinm). However it's also the heaviest i think with the least ground clearance, and I've seen a fair share of owners complaining about not clearing certain speed bumps due to the height. Lastly since I'm staying condo and its gonna be my only car.... maybe EV can wait a few more years

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Aug 12 2024, 10:33 AM

tq all for the feedback.. since my home already have Estima and Veloz.

i'm going to go for the mazda 3 liftback Ignite.. Tested the cx30 to get a feel of the engine, acceptable for me, coming from a 1.5T.

As for potential/future Civic owners.. Good luck on the Steering rack issue.. i dont think Honda Malaysia is gonna solve it.
I checked HRV and New CRV FB groups , some owners are also facing steering rack issues..

U did letgo the RS? Via direct owner or Carsome etc?

Direct Owner.. but at a not very good price.
New car big discount + facelift coming.

Just wanna get rid of the car, money can earn back, but my mental health more important

thank you for being honest my man. a lot of civic fe owners (especially in FB) try to deny this and hide under the carpet but in reality, the steering rack issue is widespread. on top of that, the seats are hard and uncomfortable.

i used to think what is the fuss about mazda (the current gen), but once I own one, i understood the hype. it just feels good and natural to drive, you'll forget about the power deficit. it may be a downgrade in term of power but upgrade in everything else.

Thats why i opted to give up the power and just get something nicer to own.

i was a co owner, it was an issue but it only happened to me once, claim went smoothly, and even during the issue, it wasn't that big of an issue to me since i am pretty decent at adapting.

the seat was probably hard, but in comparison to my own car with semi buckets, it was pretty soft.
my wife generally will sit at rear seats and the rear of Civic was much better than the Mazda 3. but alas, the low sloping roof was a deal breaker when carrying our newborn to baby seat. the opportunity to buy over my bro in law HRV was that nail in the coffin.


now, i had the same thoughts as you about the Mazda 3. i went and test driven it, and in my opinion, it was overhype. i understood the hype, but the Civic drive train was way better and the CKD vs CBU too big of a gap to ignore.
no, i am not just referring the the engine power NA vs turbo, i am particularly referring to the CVT vs slosh box, steering input and output, suspensions etc, the Civic FE to me, was all better than the Mazda 3.


so long your expectations are aligned, test driven Mazda 3 liftback extensively, satisfied, then it'll be good
admittedly, NVH was much better than the CKD Civic. it is still my opinion the price difference is still not justifiable as aftermarket full car
sound proofing also don't need 30-40k+

paying more to stay away from the steering rack issue ok la worth it to me

hopefully there will be an aftermarket company/brand that able to come out with new rack replacement and reliable.

This post?
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=105716563

Could the rims had really affect your driving experience? Base spec 16" to high spec 18" is quite a big jump Quazacolt. I mean Civic is no slouch but the Mazda 3 is still a competent performer as well. All the reviews and testimonials doesn't lie. Though I must say Civic, Altis and Mazda 3 - all three of them have very distintive handling characteristic. One man's poison could be another's potion. The Altis have the sharpest handling (based on my experience) but its let down by the worst powertrain of the lot

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Aug 14 2024, 07:50 PM

That's why I laid my disclaimers/pre face.

I don't need a half bucket that Mazda 3 is trying to do.
To me Civic FE is a better family car.

huge different on 3 perspective

1) larger wheel, thinner side wall the turn-in would be sharper, less delay. This can be reduced by getting a higher performance, stiffer side wall tyres.
I think most people should be able to feel Michelin XM vs PS4S, it is super obvious.
But if you can't tell the different of eg:. Continental SC7 vs Michelin PS4S or not so high end MC6 vs Primacy4... same category different brand then this turn-in sharpness feel maybe irrelevant to you.


2) Depends on the TOTAL weight different, and the weight distribution (middle of the wheel vs outer edge close to the edge). The acceleration + bump characteristic change.
I must emphasize TOTAL -> complete wheel -> rim + tyre. My experience is 5kg lighter per wheel, so it is super obvious.
Most claim they call fell 2kg per wheel difference, I would trust that. Those that claim 1lbs (0.5) like day and night, I think it totally BS.

The initial acceleration + braking response is sharper, more immediate.
But when the car is in constant acceleration, not much difference. The key is sudden pace change.
Like you accelerate mild, then sudden accelerate more, or light tap on the brake then back to throttle etc. The whole car response faster.

In racing, little edge on the time attack, but very useful on dog fight. On the road don't expect magic on 0-100km/h, it is more on the feel.

After 2 weeks, when I totally got used it, the magic sensation gone. Until maybe I drive a friend's car of same model...

3) Comfort/Bump. Lighter wheel, the big bump in less intrusive to the cabin. However the small rattle that wasn't present on heavier wheel can be felt on lighter wheel.
Then generally smaller wheel, thicker side wall tyres can absorb the small rattler better than low profile tyres.

The final effect have to see complete wheel package => Complete weight, rim weight distribution of the spoke design, tyre side wall thickness, tyre side wall stiffness, tyre width.
Probably best way is test drive see what you like.

Actually, it would be fair for my experience because our Civic e spec was 16"
Mazda 16"

Ok la.

For me personally, the concrete higher car limit wins. Not fans of feels good myself, but by someone else simply chilling and go faster around the corner.

Using the cars I'm familiar with Mazda3 vs Elantra Sport.

For the same excitement feel fun drive in Mazda3, I would need to drive 20-30km/h faster in Elantra Sport to even start feeling it.

If the Elantra Sport is driven at the same speed as Madza3, same speed, same road, same corner.... it is like walk in the park.

Can I say the limit of the Elantra Sport is just much higher? I didn't even compare the power.

Anyway each person have their own preferences.

Edit/Add: For me the jaw dropping feature of Mazda is all the White LED interior/headlamp is the perfectly calibrated true natural white. There is zero... absolute zero colour temperature drift, zero hue, and consistent across all LED light source. Not even cars cost 2-3 times the price ever achieve this to best of my own/drive/ride in different cars.


This post has been edited by constant_weight: Aug 15 2024, 11:59 PM

Just saw your post on the Mazda thread. Good to know you have decided on the Mazda 3 ignite.

I've previously read about the steering rack issue which is prevalent with the latest Honda Civic model but didn't know it's not an isolated case as it affects most if not all Civic models. To me, it's not only about the steering rack but the overall quality and fit and finish of Honda vehicles from City to Accord as they mostly show poor NVH and rattling sound inside the cabin due to loose fittings even for fairly new models.

My car arrived yesterday at showroom.. less than a week after booking.
the moment i sit into the car, the comfortable seats already justify my decision

kinda agree on the fit and finish of my civic, 2 years only and it feels like the whole car is like a 5-6 years old car.

Congratulations. Good to know. The Mazda 3 was on my radar but due to the high price it was scratched off the list. I used to own the Ford Focus mk3 which has exceptional handling in its price range, the time I bought it the price is around RM110k+/-. The Mazda 3 may be the closest performing vehicle but at a higher price.

Haha, i've written quite a lot on the rattling sound inside the cabin of Accord so I won't repeat it too much here. The quality is quite poor for the price you are paying especially Civic and Accord new models. I don't want to add too much salt but I actually find Proton vehicles to show less rattling sound inside the cabin than Honda models. Toyota and Mazda usually fair much better as they are CBU from Thailand and Japan respectively (Corolla and Mazda 3). CBU models will usually show better quality than CKD, especially the Honda CKD plant.

My wife's previous car was the first gen Mazda 2 hatch.. CBU Thailand. interior still feels so solid even though already around 14 years.

Actually i'm ok with a little rattle here and there, just don't give me unsolved problems on mechanical parts..

Mine Accord 2015, which I paid around 170k+ iirc back then but the NVH are just poor. My wife X70 ckd NVH are miles better than Alor Gajah made one and at much cheaper price. Ride my vendors colleague cars, City and Civic FE and FC, it just similarities for NVH, all are kinda poor.

Congratulations on your new car bro!

What colour u go for?

First time driving a c segment hatch.. looking forward to it next week

Polymetal Gray

Thanks for owning up and not hiding the weaknesses being an owner of the Accord 2015. Similarly I don't hide anything and will tell it as is although I may be the owner of the vehicle. Your experience coincides with mine. Good to know Proton X70 NVH is much better than the Honda models. Actually don't need to go to Proton latest X models. Even my much older (now sold) Proton Preve Turbo, the NVH is better. It's only the loud turbo engine that is noisy.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Aug 17 2024, 12:12 PM

Congrate On new car bro!, yesterday when service car, saw one black colour one mazda 3 HB and black Rim, stealthy AF, I wet myself. Possibly my fav colour on mazda 3 HB alongside Soul Red and Machine Grey.

Good to know. 14 years is quite a long time. The Ford Focus mk3 which I owned is CBU from Philippines, similarly rock solid with good NVH and minimal rattling sound inside the cabin even up to 10 years when I sold it earlier this year. Very quite and minimal rattling sound from new to 5 years. Between 5 to 10 years, NVH got slightly worse but still bearable and much better than any newer Honda vehicles.

Good to know. Everyone is different and I'm sensitive to NVH and rattling sound so it's one of the important criteria for me when I am considering a new vehicle. Handling, power and performance used to be the top priorities for me 10 years ago, but that has changed. Now it's more to comfort and quiet.

The Mazda 3 hatchback looks fierce as if it's ready to be driven fast and furious.

Bro, ive had a cx30 (same engine with m3) before and trust me, its not worth the price.

Engine feels underpowered, poor efficiency and small rear room.

I think TS mentioned he doesnt mind the power and small rear room..
He basically lost faith to his civic RS lol

When someone would rather spend more to get a smaller/slower car, we already know how bad the civic's rack is bothering him..


To TS, enjoy your new ride! always in my mind that those who buy mazda 3 = rich

I have a different feeling for CX30.

Anyway worth it or not its subjective.

I think the only Chinese car that's worth buying it's the S70.

I agree with u, for a sedan, s70 is quite good dy at its price range.

Even for SUV, im leaning towards the x70 facelift or tiggo 7

Heck i would even recommend to top up abit from the mazda 3 price and get the cx5 if TS still wants to go for mazda

Or yolo and get a second hand bmw as TS mentioned he wanted a fun car

This post has been edited by Arvinaaaaa: Aug 17 2024, 02:08 PM

Wah u already got ur car, ignore my above comments then and congratz ya ❤️

This is no joke bro

Literally minutes ago on this post today

And yeah, quite literally my GT86 also costed less

Congrats bro! I am envy now

Don't need to compare to CBU Mazda. My 2 Myvis has less issues combined than the current FE. 1st Myvi only warrantied shock absorber, 2nd Myvi nothing except a fuel pump recall (the fuel pump didn't even give me any issue). My 2 H meanwhile - the City went in twice for power window and once for brake issue. The FE meanwhile is on it's 3rd steering rack and other nagging issues. Just had the Honda Sensing casing broke for no reason.

One of my biggest regret is didn't take the Mazda 3.

I think this few months mazda 3 sales might up a bit.. thanks to civic racks issue

Yeah Mazda (and Toyota) just picking dead chicken from Honda lol

And here I am spending 160k+ on CX30 High+ Premium, Polymetal Grey as well same as TS. Congrats for your new ride btw SasuKopa

Test drove it and the power is enough for me, maybe because I am coming from 1.2L NA lol. Also when you rev it up at least it sounds better than some 1.6 turbos screaming for their dear life out there, and no annoying CVT droning + rubberband effect (yes I know you're not supposed to rev turbos but wait till a myvi is at your rear view mirror kek. Jk)

My verdict is few post above (quoted below)

So yeah gonna repeat again.... one man's poison is another man's potion

Also if anyone wondering why not I just get CX5 2.0 since they cost almost the same
- to me CX5 is only worth having with at least the 2.5 NA (177k+)
- the design is fine but is dated and Mazda is confirmed to be working on a new gen. Bermaz launched the facelift very late in our market, we should've got it 1 - 2 years ago
- its not spec'ed as well as the CX30 High+ Premium
- it doesn't handle as well though it is more comfortable (afterall its more family focused)
- i prefer the overall design of CX30. Again I am not a family man so practicality is not my priority

Anyway just something fun... you know there's a classic "guideline" to see whether the car you bought is underpowered for the money you pay? Just use RM1k = 1hp as guideline . So when you spend like 200k, you should expect at least 200hp. Anyway just something fun, it may or may not work for everyone

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Aug 18 2024, 01:30 AM

Congratz bro on ur new cx30

What u say is right tho, if u dont mind the acceleration compared to the civic hev, and the fuel consumption also comparing to a civic hev, the cx30 is indeed a fun car to drive. After all, coming from a 1.2NA, the cx30 should feel more powerful

One thing i can tell u is over the span of 3 years owning a CX30, the reliability of it is unrivalled. No any issues whatsoever with it 👍👍


Personal opinion; if i was given the chance to choose between the current gen civic hev and the cx30 in the year 2024, i would have not chosen either (thats why im driving a tiggo 7 now 😝)

This post has been edited by Arvinaaaaa: Aug 18 2024, 08:45 AM

hope you enjoyed your Tiggo 7 so far. I didnt include any China brands into my consideration because I feel like they need a few more years of local market experience to prove their reliability and customer service experience. Also they may be powerful in a straight line but none of them drives as well as Mazda or even Honda... yet

No offence to you and all China car buyers though. If someone is after the best value and just want the most features, power, tech etc for a low price then only China brands can offer that at the time being

I hope they really prove themselves to be viable alternatives to the Japanese mainstream in a few years time. This is coming from a Korean brand fan, where the Koreans failed here I hope the Chinese can do it

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Aug 18 2024, 09:57 AM

Second hand bmw is definitely out for me.

end of the day i picked mazda 3 liftback because i consider it as a 4 door MX5

It's no where near being a 4 door MX5

MX5 is really a full fledged sports car, even to my disappointment (but that's my own issue that I had too high expectations, and bias favouring my own car)

of coz its no where near being a mx5. that's just my assumption

i'm not a car guy, and i dont even have the knowledge of cars handling, power, etc.

Guys, want to ask, recent Honda famous of Steering Rack problem, but isn't that Mazda also famous of never ending Lower Arm kluk kluk kluk problem or it's been resolved on newer Mazda?

Long time ago interested on last generation Mazda 3 but keep seeing this lower arm noise never ending on Mazda 3 and CX5.

Cx30 no issue.

Mazda 6 got the nyek sound if go over bumps after rain 😅

I see, I guess because Mazda 6 still using same old platform similar to the previous generation Mazda 3 and CX5...

Fu yoh, now so fast can get car already, las time my cousin wait like want to cry, lol.

Congrats for getting your new car

because nowadays nobody wanna buy a Mazda.. thats why ready stocks

Shouldnt it be because there’s no more lockdown and all the factories are operating at full capacity…

People with mechanical knowledge will go for the older gen as it is using multilink in the rear.
Compare to newer gen CX-30/50, 3 already go for torsion beam.
Just to break some news, go and ask those doing tow truck service and also scrap car tender, a lot of CX-30 being crash and tender out as scrap, even more worse than the old CX-3/CX-5 in-term of handling emergency. A lot of these never make it in open news of those cars model being claim by insurance, but lately my mechanic side got at least few customers tender CX-30 scrap to fix, sell spare part, etc. Car so new but already a lot total loss already.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Aug 19 2024, 02:09 PM

Accident is because handling of the car, really?

So many driver don't even sit correctly in the driver seats and their steering technique it's another factor in emergency.

Bro, can't relate a few new gen Mazda accident due to not using rear multilink suspension bro, there are so many cars on the road still using the torsion beam setup.

I would say based on my observation, nowadays too many cars and bikes on the road, population is too high and congested, and some driving recklessly thinking their car is bulletproof accident-proof because equipped with Active + Passive safety system, so likely that's the reason of high accident rate.