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post Aug 8 2024, 02:50 PM, updated 2y ago

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Dear FnF sifus, I've been a silent reader all these while and finally registered and need opinions about cars.


I'm currently driving a civic RS 2022 and i've been having issues with my steering racks up till today.
Total claimed 3 times and now the sticky/tuk sound is back.. doh.gif


Recently went to have a look at the mazda 3 and kinda interested on the liftback ignite.
I'm thinking to just pull the trigger because of ulang alik Honda SC, and i dont think the steering rack issue will solve anytime soon seeing the complaints on FB
Space is not much of an issue as my wife is driving a Veloz, and i have another Estima at home.

How's Mazda 3? any well known issue for the current version? Just want a fun car to drive and less to zero headaches at least for 5 years.

Thanks
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post Aug 8 2024, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Aug 8 2024, 03:23 PM)
have you test driven the Mazda?
can you accept the power first because you are coming from a more powerful car.
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test driven the cx30 because there's no mazda 3 test drive car.

ok la acceptable as im just living in a small town, and occasionally highway drives only
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post Aug 8 2024, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 8 2024, 03:16 PM)
i've posted a review on the Mazda 3 thread (in car clubs sub forum)
i personally think the CBU tax is not worth it, and the car overall is overhyped.

the dynamics is just not there and i prefer the CVT way more than the 6 speed slosh box. if i need to work on a car to reap the rewards of fun and engaging drive, i have a far better 3 pedal manual actual sports car.

that said, if you are not happy with the Civic, then you don't exactly have much choices between the Altis and the Mazda 3.
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true.. my max budget would be aroud 200k..

some friends asked me to have a look at china cars/ EVs, any recommendations?

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post Aug 11 2024, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 10 2024, 05:43 AM)
Dont bother. Similar unsolvable knocking noise issue like Civic except for the 3 series its the tie rods instead of steering rack. Continuous claims needed
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wow, did not expect bmw also having this issue.. shocking.gif
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post Aug 11 2024, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Aug 11 2024, 09:17 AM)
Since you got estima and veloz, If you like the Mazda design, then can just buy Mazda 3 2.0L for your own drive. It is a car for driver to enjoy, can try 2.0 hatchback version. the cornering performance is better than civic fe, maybe because it is not sedan plus the good GVC control. More fun in driving based on my experience when I drive my cousin car go up genting with him.

So far my cousin has been driving it for 3 years, no issue heard. And my civic v also turning 3 years, no steering issue also, lol. Maybe is really depend on luck.

In terms of power, I will think civic engine is slightly better, not much difference. maybe I get more use to the 1.5T. Overall Mazda 2.0 hatchback more fun.
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Thanks for the feedback.. good to hear your civic has no steering issue..

so far there's no test drive car for mazda 3.. SA offer to test the cx30 instead.. will arrange time to test it..
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post Aug 11 2024, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Aug 10 2024, 06:49 PM)
I have test driven the hybrid CC and it is super for 0-50 and immediately stalls.
Very comfortable seats (compared to ehem the worst car seats I have ever sat on the FE E-spec) and is decent across a bump.

All in all I only regret the size a little at the back.

Dislike the footbrake but its been resolved on the mini update.
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I thought only me and my wife having issue with the seats on FE. its like no support on our ass bones. sakit buntut
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post Aug 12 2024, 10:34 AM

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tq all for the feedback.. since my home already have Estima and Veloz.

i'm going to go for the mazda 3 liftback Ignite.. Tested the cx30 to get a feel of the engine, acceptable for me, coming from a 1.5T.

As for potential/future Civic owners.. Good luck on the Steering rack issue.. i dont think Honda Malaysia is gonna solve it.
I checked HRV and New CRV FB groups , some owners are also facing steering rack issues..
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post Aug 12 2024, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Aug 12 2024, 04:07 PM)
U did letgo the RS? Via direct owner or Carsome etc?
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Direct Owner.. but at a not very good price.
New car big discount + facelift coming.

Just wanna get rid of the car, money can earn back, but my mental health more important laugh.gif
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post Aug 13 2024, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(overfloe @ Aug 13 2024, 09:19 AM)
thank you for being honest my man. a lot of civic fe owners (especially in FB) try to deny this and hide under the carpet but in reality, the steering rack issue is widespread. on top of that, the seats are hard and uncomfortable.

i used to think what is the fuss about mazda (the current gen), but once I own one, i understood the hype. it just feels good and natural to drive, you'll forget about the power deficit. it may be a downgrade in term of power but upgrade in everything else.
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Thats why i opted to give up the power and just get something nicer to own.


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post Aug 13 2024, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 13 2024, 11:09 AM)
i was a co owner, it was an issue but it only happened to me once, claim went smoothly, and even during the issue, it wasn't that big of an issue to me since i am pretty decent at adapting.

the seat was probably hard, but in comparison to my own car with semi buckets, it was pretty soft.
my wife generally will sit at rear seats and the rear of Civic was much better than the Mazda 3. but alas, the low sloping roof was a deal breaker when carrying our newborn to baby seat. the opportunity to buy over my bro in law HRV was that nail in the coffin.
now, i had the same thoughts as you about the Mazda 3. i went and test driven it, and in my opinion, it was overhype. i understood the hype, but the Civic drive train was way better and the CKD vs CBU too big of a gap to ignore.
no, i am not just referring the the engine power NA vs turbo, i am particularly referring to the CVT vs slosh box, steering input and output, suspensions etc, the Civic FE to me, was all better than the Mazda 3.
so long your expectations are aligned, test driven Mazda 3 liftback extensively, satisfied, then it'll be good thumbup.gif
admittedly, NVH was much better than the CKD Civic. it is still my opinion the price difference is still not justifiable as aftermarket full car
sound proofing also don't need 30-40k+
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paying more to stay away from the steering rack issue ok la worth it to me laugh.gif
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post Aug 17 2024, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 17 2024, 10:57 AM)
Just saw your post on the Mazda thread. Good to know you have decided on the Mazda 3 ignite.

I've previously read about the steering rack issue which is prevalent with the latest Honda Civic model but didn't know it's not an isolated case as it affects most if not all Civic models. To me, it's not only about the steering rack but the overall quality and fit and finish of Honda vehicles from City to Accord as they mostly show poor NVH and rattling sound inside the cabin due to loose fittings even for fairly new models.
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My car arrived yesterday at showroom.. less than a week after booking.
the moment i sit into the car, the comfortable seats already justify my decision laugh.gif

kinda agree on the fit and finish of my civic, 2 years only and it feels like the whole car is like a 5-6 years old car.
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post Aug 17 2024, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 17 2024, 11:34 AM)
Congratulations. Good to know. The Mazda 3 was on my radar but due to the high price it was scratched off the list. I used to own the Ford Focus mk3 which has exceptional handling in its price range, the time I bought it the price is around RM110k+/-. The Mazda 3 may be the closest performing vehicle but at a higher price.

Haha, i've written quite a lot on the rattling sound inside the cabin of Accord so I won't repeat it too much here. The quality is quite poor for the price you are paying especially Civic and Accord new models. I don't want to add too much salt but I actually find Proton vehicles to show less rattling sound inside the cabin than Honda models. Toyota and Mazda usually fair much better as they are CBU from Thailand and Japan respectively (Corolla and Mazda 3). CBU models will usually show better quality than CKD, especially the Honda CKD plant.
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My wife's previous car was the first gen Mazda 2 hatch.. CBU Thailand. interior still feels so solid even though already around 14 years.

Actually i'm ok with a little rattle here and there, just don't give me unsolved problems on mechanical parts..
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post Aug 17 2024, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 17 2024, 11:46 AM)
Congratulations on your new car bro! thumbup.gif
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First time driving a c segment hatch.. looking forward to it next week
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post Aug 17 2024, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(T.Alvin @ Aug 17 2024, 11:59 AM)
What colour u go for?
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Polymetal Gray
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post Aug 18 2024, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Aug 17 2024, 02:07 PM)
I agree with u, for a sedan, s70 is quite good dy at its price range.

Even for SUV, im leaning towards the x70 facelift or tiggo 7

Heck i would even recommend to top up abit from the mazda 3 price and get the cx5 if TS still wants to go for mazda

Or yolo and get a second hand bmw as TS mentioned he wanted a fun car
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Second hand bmw is definitely out for me.

end of the day i picked mazda 3 liftback because i consider it as a 4 door MX5 laugh.gif
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post Aug 18 2024, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 18 2024, 10:49 AM)
It's no where near being a 4 door MX5

MX5 is really a full fledged sports car, even to my disappointment (but that's my own issue that I had too high expectations, and bias favouring my own car)
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of coz its no where near being a mx5. that's just my assumption doh.gif

i'm not a car guy, and i dont even have the knowledge of cars handling, power, etc.

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post Aug 18 2024, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Aug 18 2024, 04:26 PM)
Fu yoh, now so fast can get car already, las time my cousin wait like want to cry, lol.

Congrats for getting your new car
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because nowadays nobody wanna buy a Mazda.. thats why ready stocks
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post Aug 20 2024, 01:57 PM

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from civic steering rack problems, to torsion beam causing total lost.

i'm just gonna leave the thread here to see how things escalate. lol
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post Aug 27 2024, 09:04 PM

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Gotten my Mazda.. honestly it’s a totally different level compare to Honda.

Power wise I don’t really miss much of civic’s turbo (slow uncle driver). Just that at low speed the civic’s turbo definitely gives much kick.

Handling? Sedap!

Good bye Civic’s troublesome lousy steering rack. 😄
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post Aug 28 2024, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(genericsoul @ Aug 28 2024, 12:13 AM)
Which colour did you get? I’ve been looking at the hatch closely just waiting for the right time to close the deal but still many reservations with govt planning to scrap fuel  subsidies and all that if that ever happens maybe need to consider a hybrid. Kinda in a dilemma here tbf
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Polymetal gray. If you’re not rushing can just wait. My case is I’m getting rid of the civic before facelift launches in malaysia.

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