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Civic FE RS to Mazda 3 Liftback Ignite
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littlefire
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Aug 8 2024, 04:04 PM
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If you think steering rack issue only for Honda, your gonna be wrong. All electrical type steering rack if driven harsh also will encounter issue, just google and go read in forums, Mazda, Toyota electric type steering rack been piling with claims and repair also.
This post has been edited by littlefire: Aug 8 2024, 04:04 PM
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littlefire
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Aug 8 2024, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(squareballs @ Aug 8 2024, 05:18 PM) but is it as frequent as Honda civic's rack? My FE only 20k mileage, going soon for my 4th claim.. Even product recall rack by Honda, just changed in April now defect again I have heard & seen a lot of people think that modern cars with EPS is light, easy to turn and abuse it. Just google about "Dry Steering" even tho it is electric motor assist major components like gear, shalf, seals still similar with other power steering. Daily seen people turn max steering while idling, went thru corners & bad road condition at high speed and worse with those big heavy sport rims.  Last time many cars use small sport rims, tire is thicker. So even use old hydraulic type power steering the thick tire and soft suspension settings can help absorb a lot of impact from bad road condition. Nowadays modern car all terbalik and expect more lasting.
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littlefire
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Aug 9 2024, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Aug 8 2024, 07:05 PM) Will be interesting if someone has some statistics on the steering rack failure rate on Civic FE on both 215/55R16 and 235/40ZR18 tyre sizes. off topic a bit. Used to test dry steering on 3 different tyre width on Iswara A/B with no power steering; 175, 185 and 195. 195 width is really almost impossible.to turn, need to have muscle to turn it. On 175, it is quite manageable. That's how much the extra stress on the power steering system with just extra 20mm tyre width. Yes, that why a lot of people think EPS is light then go turn here n there without care. If you driven cars without power steering you will know how stress the steering box with bigger, heavier sport rims and tire. Nowadays a lot of car manufacturer just want to get sales and go for outlook to trap those new owners, any issue they will use warranty to claim within the 5 years but after that your problem already. I driven cars with no power steering like classic 71' VW beetle and also Kancil 660, like your experience. Original tire width only 165/80/R15 (VW), last time when i took over from my dad i pandai pandai go change 195/65/R15 due to some poor advice from tire shop, in the end i suffer for it. This post has been edited by littlefire: Aug 9 2024, 08:39 AM
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littlefire
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Aug 12 2024, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE(rapple @ Aug 11 2024, 06:41 PM) Not sure about Mazda 3. Rear seat for CX30 is definitely better than Mazda 3. Rear seat for tall people like 180cm above its really not comfortable even for my previous car Civic 1.8s it's the same. I think all Japanese car rear seat are shortened that's why so uncomfortable. I love the liftback design but cx30 have better overall utility. Mazda cars are made for drivers only, those rear seats mostly cater for small kids. For CX5, 2, 3 & 30 series can consider as 2+2 settings. Only Mazda 6 above the rear seats still ok for adults. If your claustrophobia gg, as i got friend with CX5 fetch parents 1 time go out 2nd time no more want to seat in the rear seat as they felt very tight/small space. Thus why i always feedback if possible go test drive with family members if want to fetch family out in the same car and hear their feedback.
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littlefire
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Aug 19 2024, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 18 2024, 02:07 PM) I see, I guess because Mazda 6 still using same old platform similar to the previous generation Mazda 3 and CX5... People with mechanical knowledge will go for the older gen as it is using multilink in the rear. Compare to newer gen CX-30/50, 3 already go for torsion beam. Just to break some news, go and ask those doing tow truck service and also scrap car tender, a lot of CX-30 being crash and tender out as scrap, even more worse than the old CX-3/CX-5 in-term of handling emergency. A lot of these never make it in open news of those cars model being claim by insurance, but lately my mechanic side got at least few customers tender CX-30 scrap to fix, sell spare part, etc. Car so new but already a lot total loss already. This post has been edited by littlefire: Aug 19 2024, 02:09 PM
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littlefire
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Aug 20 2024, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Aug 19 2024, 08:19 PM) I dont know how you draw up that conclusion just based on some hearsay statistic from your mechanic friend You do know there is a lot of factors when it comes to an accident being declared total loss Yes, but if you always in the tender market/car towing business they will know. They already seen a lot of these newer CX-30 models accident until total loss, even with newer safety technology like city lane detection, ASA, VSC, GVT+ all like nothing. The good thing the total loss units are a bargain now and people are tender around 30~40k for 2023/24 year unit. This post has been edited by littlefire: Aug 20 2024, 09:04 AM
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littlefire
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Aug 20 2024, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Aug 20 2024, 11:24 AM) still it doesn't correlates with CX30 using torsion beam if you say due to CX30's brake pedal sensitivity.... maybe if you say due to blindspots since the windows are small.... maybe but those 2 reasons also ultimately boils down to the driver iinm toyota steering issue is weird clicking noise when turning the wheel, unlike the sticky issue in hondas i could be wrong though, only observed some cases in corolla cross owners group. so far havent seen anyone complaining about sticky steering i think nowadays its hard to expect a 100% problem free car especially when it comes to fit and finish, CKD models you should probably even give up on this expectation minimum expectation would be a reliable drivetrain, and warranty claim able to solve the issue then its fine. In Honda's case I believe many are frustrated because steering rack issue keep returning despite several warranty claims and replacements But still CX-3 also smaller, but did not got so much attention. Try ask around, I also shock when i see a lot of CX-30 accident units being sold and tender around. In KL there already got air bag repairer with full complete dashboard mold repair and air bag replacement ready for CX-30, just imagine how many CX-30 already involved in accident and done repair for now.
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littlefire
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Aug 20 2024, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(rapple @ Aug 20 2024, 12:48 PM) Accident is always the driver problem. Supposing with modern safety technology, the accident rate should be lower. If you can see so many being tow and tender you will start to question why this ride got so many accident. Or the buyer who bought this ride most of them are bad drivers?
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littlefire
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Aug 20 2024, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(rapple @ Aug 20 2024, 03:57 PM) There are 4 specs on sale and only the top 2 specs comes with advanced safety features. And u are assuming all accident is cause by the driver who drive CX30 not the other party. I'm not sure what you trying to point, but as long as you are happy then yes CX30 is not for you. Most of the accident units got all air bags deployed and front impact, if it is on the side or rear those are from other factors. I just shared what i saw lately, as a lot of units being tender, scrap, repair and i believe some will flow back into market as used units so for those who are looking at Mazda CX-30 rides at a very good deal in 2nd market better check with insurance or jpj using the car chassis no. as what i heard those who repair and sell back most will change the plat no. also.
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littlefire
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Aug 21 2024, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Aug 21 2024, 10:04 AM) Nowadays even very minor accidents also quickly go viral online, lol. If so many cx30 involve in collision that can make it turn into total loss, the news can still kept unaware? Dash cam is everywhere bro. Yesterday even lorry breakdown outside my house also got ppl snatched photo and provide live reporting in group chat. Anyway, if no driver of cx30 dead in the so call "many accidents that have been verified by your source", mean the car did a good job in protecting the driver with it's safety features la. BTW, back to basic do you know that car safety got 2 category Active & Passive? Go do research about this 2. Both are equally need to be good. Nowadays a lot of car manufacturer will try to proof their passive safety is good, but do you know active safety the one that prevents accident also equally or more important as it safe time, hassle and money? Go dig more further those Mazda Active safety test recently, especially small SUV & Automatic emergency braking. These info usually are not shared out. This post has been edited by littlefire: Aug 21 2024, 12:06 PM
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littlefire
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Aug 21 2024, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Aug 21 2024, 01:57 PM) Bro, Google already exist in this world for over 10 years already....no need to wait for your turn to explain what is passive and active car safety features la, not enough to show off, lol. Me and other forumers here are just sharing same thought with you, your way of thinking is too narrow, from what we can see on how you draw conclusion on the matter. You saw or heard the workshop got many claim on cx30 then you think it's active features failed because it can't prevent accident. And even claim it's torsion beam might contribute to accident....WTF, lol. Yet there are so many factors that can contribute to a car accident. Can I said BMW got problem also since so many BM crashed on the road every year? Last year my friend's younger brother crashed his 330 due to the tyre skidded in heavy rain, as he drove too fast, so was the car got problem? Or the otak got problem? Unless you and your friend in charge for all claims of accidents and have ample data size. Otherwise your statements are just hear say. Some more cx30 got high spec and low spec, the low specs don't have smart braking features that can prevent collision. All cx30 that were sent to the workshop of your friend are full specs version? Just to clarify, uncle only have one civic and crv at home. No mazda Okok,  i rest my case. BTW, BMW are never a great car in term of safety and their active safety features offering for local cars also quite rare compare to other competitors. Even my father when bought his BMW also knew they are not perfect, but because of the driving feel and badge.
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