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I see, I guess because Mazda 6 still using same old platform similar to the previous generation Mazda 3 and CX5...Civic FE RS to Mazda 3 Liftback Ignite
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QUOTE(SasuKopa @ Aug 17 2024, 12:08 PM) Fu yoh, now so fast can get car already, las time my cousin wait like want to cry, lol.Congrats for getting your new car Quazacolt liked this post
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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Aug 18 2024, 04:26 PM) Fu yoh, now so fast can get car already, las time my cousin wait like want to cry, lol. because nowadays nobody wanna buy a Mazda.. thats why ready stocksCongrats for getting your new car Quazacolt liked this post
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QUOTE(SasuKopa @ Aug 18 2024, 04:33 PM) Shouldnt it be because there’s no more lockdown and all the factories are operating at full capacity… Quazacolt liked this post
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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 18 2024, 02:07 PM) I see, I guess because Mazda 6 still using same old platform similar to the previous generation Mazda 3 and CX5... People with mechanical knowledge will go for the older gen as it is using multilink in the rear. Compare to newer gen CX-30/50, 3 already go for torsion beam. Just to break some news, go and ask those doing tow truck service and also scrap car tender, a lot of CX-30 being crash and tender out as scrap, even more worse than the old CX-3/CX-5 in-term of handling emergency. A lot of these never make it in open news of those cars model being claim by insurance, but lately my mechanic side got at least few customers tender CX-30 scrap to fix, sell spare part, etc. Car so new but already a lot total loss already. This post has been edited by littlefire: Aug 19 2024, 02:09 PM |
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 19 2024, 02:05 PM) People with mechanical knowledge will go for the older gen as it is using multilink in the rear. Accident is because handling of the car, really?Compare to newer gen CX-30/50, 3 already go for torsion beam. Just to break some news, go and ask those doing tow truck service and also scrap car tender, a lot of CX-30 being crash and tender out as scrap, even more worse than the old CX-3/CX-5 in-term of handling emergency. A lot of these never make it in open news of those cars model being claim by insurance, but lately my mechanic side got at least few customers tender CX-30 scrap to fix, sell spare part, etc. Car so new but already a lot total loss already. So many driver don't even sit correctly in the driver seats and their steering technique it's another factor in emergency. constant_weight and Quazacolt liked this post
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 19 2024, 02:05 PM) People with mechanical knowledge will go for the older gen as it is using multilink in the rear. Bro, can't relate a few new gen Mazda accident due to not using rear multilink suspension bro, there are so many cars on the road still using the torsion beam setup.Compare to newer gen CX-30/50, 3 already go for torsion beam. Just to break some news, go and ask those doing tow truck service and also scrap car tender, a lot of CX-30 being crash and tender out as scrap, even more worse than the old CX-3/CX-5 in-term of handling emergency. A lot of these never make it in open news of those cars model being claim by insurance, but lately my mechanic side got at least few customers tender CX-30 scrap to fix, sell spare part, etc. Car so new but already a lot total loss already. I would say based on my observation, nowadays too many cars and bikes on the road, population is too high and congested, and some driving recklessly thinking their car is bulletproof accident-proof because equipped with Active + Passive safety system, so likely that's the reason of high accident rate. Jingle91, constant_weight, and 1 other liked this post
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 19 2024, 02:05 PM) People with mechanical knowledge will go for the older gen as it is using multilink in the rear. I dont know how you draw up that conclusion just based on some hearsay statistic from your mechanic friend Compare to newer gen CX-30/50, 3 already go for torsion beam. Just to break some news, go and ask those doing tow truck service and also scrap car tender, a lot of CX-30 being crash and tender out as scrap, even more worse than the old CX-3/CX-5 in-term of handling emergency. A lot of these never make it in open news of those cars model being claim by insurance, but lately my mechanic side got at least few customers tender CX-30 scrap to fix, sell spare part, etc. Car so new but already a lot total loss already. You do know there is a lot of factors when it comes to an accident being declared total loss lee82gx, constant_weight, and 3 others liked this post
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I'll stand firm that a car accident or not have nothing to do with torsion beam or multi link. It's all the driver. lee82gx, amscouzach57, and 1 other liked this post
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Aug 19 2024, 08:19 PM) I dont know how you draw up that conclusion just based on some hearsay statistic from your mechanic friend Yes, but if you always in the tender market/car towing business they will know. They already seen a lot of these newer CX-30 models accident until total loss, even with newer safety technology like city lane detection, ASA, VSC, GVT+ all like nothing. The good thing the total loss units are a bargain now and people are tender around 30~40k for 2023/24 year unit.You do know there is a lot of factors when it comes to an accident being declared total loss This post has been edited by littlefire: Aug 20 2024, 09:04 AM |
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Aug 9 2024, 09:18 AM) The only one who can produce reliable statistics on this is actually HONDA and the EPS system vendor themselves. Not sure how you expect anyone else to do that. Anecdotally the only other 215/55r16 user Quazacolt and myself (the only 2 E-spec Honda Civic I am aware) both have suffered steering rack failure already, so lets call it 100% in my book. Everyone else attribute to V and RS. So all also kaput aje lah. Why bother trying to help Honda if they don't want to help themselves? They already have a mountain of failure parts in their inventory. What statistic also can come out liao. Fool me once, fool me twice eh. Anger is definitely one way of dealing with grief, I have moved on to acceptance - just drive it and shut up....every few months go and claim steering rack and make fuss on internet haha. Although I cannot rule out divorce too. Its always in the options. BTW, I stupidly asked the salesman how is the FE steering rack compared to FC before buying, have they fixed it yet he didn't even blink and told me yes confirm. Bodohnyer aku. But only left with Corolla Altis and that is suchhh a slugggggggg.......Got my eye on a Corolla Cross do you guys know if the power steering supplier is same? toyota is having the exact same issue with steering rack too from vios , veloz , corolla, camry, corolla cross semua kena best part is toyota dont let u claim cite no improveeement even change new This post has been edited by heihei2: Aug 20 2024, 09:14 AM Quazacolt liked this post
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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 19 2024, 06:27 PM) Bro, can't relate a few new gen Mazda accident due to not using rear multilink suspension bro, there are so many cars on the road still using the torsion beam setup. maybe some mazda owner push over the limit since mazda always advertise their car terpaling handling I would say based on my observation, nowadays too many cars and bikes on the road, population is too high and congested, and some driving recklessly thinking their car is bulletproof accident-proof because equipped with Active + Passive safety system, so likely that's the reason of high accident rate. no problem one, just push 10km/h more, still can pass the corneer one, just pushhhhh danielcmugen and Quazacolt liked this post
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QUOTE(heihei2 @ Aug 20 2024, 09:11 AM) toyota is having the exact same issue with steering rack too from vios , veloz , corolla, camry, corolla cross semua kena best part is toyota dont let u claim cite no improveeement even change new Funny thing is current Altis having wheel bearing frequent failure problem at very relative low mileage, nobody talk it on open public forum, they just keep complaining inside the private group only. Same thing happened to last time Almera, wheel bearing was hot topic publicly that time.. |
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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 20 2024, 09:34 AM) Shhh, cannot talk bad of Toyota in public forum one, you never kena Toyota fans army shoot? biasa toyota fans always like dat Funny thing is current Altis having wheel bearing frequent failure problem at very relative low mileage, nobody talk it on open public forum, they just keep complaining inside the private group only. Same thing happened to last time Almera, wheel bearing was hot topic publicly that time.. see forum time, no issue one , car best after getting the car n found why A pillar got so many windnoise one then ask in forum baru say welcome to the problematic club Bro |
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QUOTE(heihei2 @ Aug 20 2024, 09:11 AM) toyota is having the exact same issue with steering rack too from vios , veloz , corolla, camry, corolla cross semua kena best part is toyota dont let u claim cite no improveeement even change new Quazacolt and amscouzach57 liked this post
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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 20 2024, 09:34 AM) Shhh, cannot talk bad of Toyota in public forum one, you never kena Toyota fans army shoot? They thought Toyota here quality are same as Japan CBU. But the Shah Alam made are just poor as Alor Gajah madeFunny thing is current Altis having wheel bearing frequent failure problem at very relative low mileage, nobody talk it on open public forum, they just keep complaining inside the private group only. Same thing happened to last time Almera, wheel bearing was hot topic publicly that time.. |
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 20 2024, 09:03 AM) Yes, but if you always in the tender market/car towing business they will know. They already seen a lot of these newer CX-30 models accident until total loss, even with newer safety technology like city lane detection, ASA, VSC, GVT+ all like nothing. The good thing the total loss units are a bargain now and people are tender around 30~40k for 2023/24 year unit. still it doesn't correlates with CX30 using torsion beam if you say due to CX30's brake pedal sensitivity.... maybe if you say due to blindspots since the windows are small.... maybe but those 2 reasons also ultimately boils down to the driver QUOTE(heihei2 @ Aug 20 2024, 09:11 AM) toyota is having the exact same issue with steering rack too from vios , veloz , corolla, camry, corolla cross semua kena best part is toyota dont let u claim cite no improveeement even change new i could be wrong though, only observed some cases in corolla cross owners group. so far havent seen anyone complaining about sticky steering QUOTE(heihei2 @ Aug 20 2024, 10:03 AM) biasa toyota fans always like dat i think nowadays its hard to expect a 100% problem free car especially when it comes to fit and finish, CKD models you should probably even give up on this expectationsee forum time, no issue one , car best after getting the car n found why A pillar got so many windnoise one then ask in forum baru say welcome to the problematic club Bro minimum expectation would be a reliable drivetrain, and warranty claim able to solve the issue then its fine. In Honda's case I believe many are frustrated because steering rack issue keep returning despite several warranty claims and replacements This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Aug 20 2024, 10:30 AM constant_weight and Quazacolt liked this post
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Aug 20 2024, 10:24 AM) still it doesn't correlates with CX30 using torsion beam honda same click sound for most, sticky steering is civic Fe special if you say due to CX30's brake pedal sensitivity.... maybe if you say due to blindspots since the windows are small.... maybe but those 2 reasons also ultimately boils down to the driver iinm toyota steering issue is weird clicking noise when turning the wheel, unlike the sticky issue in hondas i could be wrong though, only observed some cases in corolla cross owners group. so far havent seen anyone complaining about sticky steering i think nowadays its hard to expect a 100% problem free car especially when it comes to fit and finish, CKD models you should probably even give up on this expectation minimum expectation would be a reliable drivetrain, and warranty claim able to solve the issue then its fine. In Honda's case I believe many are frustrated because steering rack issue keep returning despite several warranty claims and replacements except that toyota is CBU from japan n it really dissapointing for something costing over 200k to have windnoise as low as 70 |
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