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 Civic FE RS to Mazda 3 Liftback Ignite

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voscar
post Aug 22 2024, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 21 2024, 10:51 AM)
I honestly find it hard to believe.

No way Toyota will let that prolong and tarnish their legendary reliability reputation? laugh.gif

But, not as widespread maybe because much fewer owners?
And/or unker less likely to viral stuff and would attempt to resolve issue behind closed doors.
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Toyota still no real fix for the wheel bearing issue, got owner just asking in group the frequent need of replacing wheel bearing is worrying and he not sure what to do after warranty ended...
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post Aug 22 2024, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 22 2024, 01:40 PM)
Toyota still no real fix for the wheel bearing issue, got owner just asking in group the frequent need of replacing wheel bearing is worrying and he not sure what to do after warranty ended...
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My friend Yaris claimed an alternator at year 2. Coincidentally it was about 3 Toyota cars claiming alternator at that date in SC
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post Aug 23 2024, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Aug 21 2024, 09:04 AM)
Nowadays even very minor accidents also quickly go viral online, lol. If so many cx30 involve in collision that can make it turn into total loss, the news can still kept unaware? Dash cam is everywhere bro. Yesterday even lorry breakdown outside my house also got ppl snatched photo and provide live reporting in group chat.

Anyway, if no driver of cx30 dead in the so call "many accidents that have been verified by your source", mean the car did a good job in protecting the driver with it's safety features la.
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Unless the statistics are coming from the insurers (especially from Sompo which is the main insurer for brand new Mazda), you can take hearsay story from a mechanics friend with a pinch of salt.

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post Aug 27 2024, 09:04 PM

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Gotten my Mazda.. honestly it’s a totally different level compare to Honda.

Power wise I don’t really miss much of civic’s turbo (slow uncle driver). Just that at low speed the civic’s turbo definitely gives much kick.

Handling? Sedap!

Good bye Civic’s troublesome lousy steering rack. 😄
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post Aug 28 2024, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(SasuKopa @ Aug 27 2024, 09:04 PM)
Gotten my Mazda.. honestly it’s a totally different level compare to Honda.

Power wise I don’t really miss much of civic’s turbo (slow uncle driver). Just that at low speed the civic’s turbo definitely gives much kick.

Handling? Sedap!

Good bye Civic’s troublesome lousy steering rack. 😄
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Which colour did you get? I’ve been looking at the hatch closely just waiting for the right time to close the deal but still many reservations with govt planning to scrap fuel subsidies and all that if that ever happens maybe need to consider a hybrid. Kinda in a dilemma here tbf
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post Aug 28 2024, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(genericsoul @ Aug 28 2024, 12:13 AM)
Which colour did you get? I’ve been looking at the hatch closely just waiting for the right time to close the deal but still many reservations with govt planning to scrap fuel  subsidies and all that if that ever happens maybe need to consider a hybrid. Kinda in a dilemma here tbf
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Polymetal gray. If you’re not rushing can just wait. My case is I’m getting rid of the civic before facelift launches in malaysia.
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post Aug 28 2024, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(SasuKopa @ Aug 27 2024, 09:04 PM)
Gotten my Mazda.. honestly it’s a totally different level compare to Honda.

Power wise I don’t really miss much of civic’s turbo (slow uncle driver). Just that at low speed the civic’s turbo definitely gives much kick.

Handling? Sedap!

Good bye Civic’s troublesome lousy steering rack. 😄
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Bro, you're saying Mazda's torsion beam handling better than Civic's multilink? Cannot be, someone here said the torsion beam bad handling contributed high number of total lost....

BTW, congrats and enjoy the new car.
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post Aug 28 2024, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 28 2024, 09:29 AM)
Bro, you're saying Mazda's torsion beam handling better than Civic's multilink? Cannot be, someone here said the torsion beam bad handling contributed high number of total lost....

BTW, congrats and enjoy the new car.
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there is more to handling than just rear torsion beam... gotta drive it to feel it... not just looked at specs... also it can suck in one car and excel in another... gotta look at the whole package...

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post Aug 28 2024, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 28 2024, 09:29 AM)
Bro, you're saying Mazda's torsion beam handling better than Civic's multilink? Cannot be, someone here said the torsion beam bad handling contributed high number of total lost....

BTW, congrats and enjoy the new car.
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i just say handling sedap. can feel less bodyroll, should be due to liftback vs sedan.
tire noise and road feel, the Mazda definitely is more comfortable compare to my civic RS.

i drive the car base on feel, not really into all the technical specs and on paper digits.
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post Aug 28 2024, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Aug 28 2024, 10:29 AM)
there is more to handling than just rear torsion beam... gotta drive it to feel it... not just looked at specs... also it can suck in one car and excel in another... gotta look at the whole package...
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me older already, so choose car with better NVH. cant stand car with NVH poor as P2, (no offense P2 cars)
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Aug 28 2024, 02:27 PM)
me older already, so choose car with better NVH. cant stand car with NVH poor as P2, (no offense P2 cars)
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rented new alza for 10 days... drove up/down mountain and everywhere else... very good nvh imho...

soundproofing easy to add as long as chasis/handling is worth the trouble...

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post Aug 28 2024, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Aug 28 2024, 10:29 AM)
there is more to handling than just rear torsion beam... gotta drive it to feel it... not just looked at specs... also it can suck in one car and excel in another... gotta look at the whole package...
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i did and i prefer the Civic's suspension much more.

not because of rear multilink, more to how the Mazda 3 seems to be on standard outdated absorbers, which the Civic already have bypass valve built into it. it handles high speed compression/rebounds WAY better than the Mazda 3.
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post Aug 28 2024, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 28 2024, 03:43 PM)
i did and i prefer the Civic's suspension much more.

not because of rear multilink, more to how the Mazda 3 seems to be on standard outdated absorbers, which the Civic already have bypass valve built into it. it handles high speed compression/rebounds WAY better than the Mazda 3.
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I think I'm nagging same thing again... big majority of people judge handling/feel base on body roll alone.

Not a lot of regular driver can tell other dimensions.

Compression/rebounds, body rotation/slip angle, tyre twist, steering assist force resolutions, weight transfer like nose dive vs whole chassis sink flat during hard braking.
I'm sure there are still many others that pro drivers beyond my caliber can feel, that I can't notworthy.gif

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post Aug 28 2024, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 28 2024, 03:43 PM)
i did and i prefer the Civic's suspension much more.

not because of rear multilink, more to how the Mazda 3 seems to be on standard outdated absorbers, which the Civic already have bypass valve built into it. it handles high speed compression/rebounds WAY better than the Mazda 3.
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multilink helps here too wink.gif

imho civic is a more complete car... if not for steering rack problem, quite sure ts wont be changing

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post Aug 28 2024, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Aug 28 2024, 05:56 PM)
multilink helps here too wink.gif

imho civic is a more complete car... if not for steering rack problem, quite sure ts wont be changing
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Civic is definitely a more complete car compare to liftback.

You’re right, the steering rack issue is bothering me too much.
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Aug 28 2024, 05:56 PM)
multilink helps here too wink.gif

imho civic is a more complete car... if not for steering rack problem, quite sure ts wont be changing
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Civic with Mazda 3 front seats and NVH will really be the perfect C segment

Wait that's the BMW 3 series tongue.gif
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QUOTE(SasuKopa @ Aug 27 2024, 09:04 PM)
Gotten my Mazda.. honestly it’s a totally different level compare to Honda.

Power wise I don’t really miss much of civic’s turbo (slow uncle driver). Just that at low speed the civic’s turbo definitely gives much kick.

Handling? Sedap!

Good bye Civic’s troublesome lousy steering rack. 😄
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Why didn't chose Mazda 3 sedan but liftback?
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post Aug 29 2024, 06:53 AM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Aug 29 2024, 01:32 AM)
Why didn't chose Mazda 3 sedan but liftback?
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Already have big size cars at home. So try out lift back.. and another reason is for the Bose
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post Aug 29 2024, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(SasuKopa @ Aug 29 2024, 06:53 AM)
Already have big size cars at home. So try out lift back.. and another reason is for the Bose
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How is the bose sound system on the new Mazda 3? I found the Bose system on the previous generation Mazda CX5 2.5 CBU from Japan to be mediocre with poor bass response. The bass doesn't go deep and lack punch while the treble is overly clean. The Ford Focus Sony sound system sounds better than the Bose in the Mazda. I'm not sure if the latest Mazda has an improved version of the Bose.

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 29 2024, 09:32 PM)
How is the bose sound system on the new Mazda 3? I found the Bose system on the previous generation Mazda CX5 2.5 CBU from Japan to be mediocre with poor bass response. The bass doesn't go deep and lack punch while the treble is overly clean. The Ford Focus Sony sound system sounds better than the Bose in the Mazda. I'm not sure if the latest Mazda has an improved version of the Bose.
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Bass are punchy as I set bass to only +4, , vocals instruments clear.
Meets my expectation.

There are some reviews on the Mazda 3’s Bose on YouTube, can check it out

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