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post Aug 20 2024, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(heihei2 @ Aug 20 2024, 11:11 AM)
honda same click sound for most, sticky steering is civic Fe special
except that toyota is CBU from japan n it really dissapointing for something costing over 200k to have windnoise as low as 70 shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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Harrier? That's a well known issue haha, i think something to do with the A pillar or wing mirror design. Many reviewers also pointed this out so i doubt its quality related, more likely design
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post Aug 20 2024, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Aug 20 2024, 11:24 AM)
still it doesn't correlates with CX30 using torsion beam

if you say due to CX30's brake pedal sensitivity.... maybe

if you say due to blindspots since the windows are small.... maybe

but those 2 reasons also ultimately boils down to the driver
iinm toyota steering issue is weird clicking noise when turning the wheel, unlike the sticky issue in hondas

i could be wrong though, only observed some cases in corolla cross owners group. so far havent seen anyone complaining about sticky steering
i think nowadays its hard to expect a 100% problem free car especially when it comes to fit and finish, CKD models you should probably even give up on this expectation

minimum expectation would be a reliable drivetrain, and warranty claim able to solve the issue then its fine. In Honda's case I believe many are frustrated because steering rack issue keep returning despite several warranty claims and replacements
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But still CX-3 also smaller, but did not got so much attention.
Try ask around, I also shock when i see a lot of CX-30 accident units being sold and tender around. In KL there already got air bag repairer with full complete dashboard mold repair and air bag replacement ready for CX-30, just imagine how many CX-30 already involved in accident and done repair for now.


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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 20 2024, 11:25 AM)
But still CX-3 also smaller, but did not got so much attention.
Try ask around, I also shock when i see a lot of CX-30 accident units being sold and tender around. In KL there already got air bag repairer with full complete dashboard mold repair and air bag replacement ready for CX-30, just imagine how many CX-30 already involved in accident and done repair for now.
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Accident is always the driver problem.


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post Aug 20 2024, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(rapple @ Aug 20 2024, 12:48 PM)
Accident is always the driver problem.
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Supposing with modern safety technology, the accident rate should be lower.
If you can see so many being tow and tender you will start to question why this ride got so many accident.
Or the buyer who bought this ride most of them are bad drivers? laugh.gif
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from civic steering rack problems, to torsion beam causing total lost.

i'm just gonna leave the thread here to see how things escalate. lol
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 20 2024, 01:41 PM)
Supposing with modern safety technology, the accident rate should be lower.
If you can see so many being tow and tender you will start to question why this ride got so many accident.
Or the buyer who bought this ride most of them are bad drivers?  laugh.gif
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this is going to be my last reply for this

I've yet to see a CX30 being towed or involved in a serious accident with my own eyes so far. Owner reports in social media yes. Your mechanic friend handle towing for the whole country? The so called statistic is for your area, your state or the whole country?

Did accidents involving Perodua and Proton became lesser after they got ADAS as well?

Anyway I rather be involved in a serious accident in a CX30 if it ever comes to that

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/mazda/cx-30/1...ash-test-rating

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 20 2024, 01:41 PM)
Supposing with modern safety technology, the accident rate should be lower.
If you can see so many being tow and tender you will start to question why this ride got so many accident.
Or the buyer who bought this ride most of them are bad drivers?  laugh.gif
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There are 4 specs on sale and only the top 2 specs comes with advanced safety features.

And u are assuming all accident is cause by the driver who drive CX30 not the other party.

I'm not sure what you trying to point, but as long as you are happy then yes CX30 is not for you.
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QUOTE(rapple @ Aug 20 2024, 03:57 PM)
There are 4 specs on sale and only the top 2 specs comes with advanced safety features.

And u are assuming all accident is cause by the driver who drive CX30 not the other party.

I'm not sure what you trying to point, but as long as you are happy then yes CX30 is not for you.
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Most of the accident units got all air bags deployed and front impact, if it is on the side or rear those are from other factors. I just shared what i saw lately, as a lot of units being tender, scrap, repair and i believe some will flow back into market as used units so for those who are looking at Mazda CX-30 rides at a very good deal in 2nd market better check with insurance or jpj using the car chassis no. as what i heard those who repair and sell back most will change the plat no. also.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 20 2024, 03:32 PM)
Most of the accident units got all air bags deployed and front impact, if it is on the side or rear those are from other factors. I just shared what i saw lately, as a lot of units being tender, scrap, repair and i believe some will flow back into market as used units so for those who are looking at Mazda CX-30 rides at a very good deal in 2nd market better check with insurance or jpj using the car chassis no. as what i heard those who repair and sell back most will change the plat no. also.
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All used car have the same risk.

Even experienced used car dealer sometimes got these of kind car from bidding platform. Fortunately for them they can return the car to the bidding platform and get refunds.

But no such thing for end user like us.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 20 2024, 11:25 AM)
But still CX-3 also smaller, but did not got so much attention.
Try ask around, I also shock when i see a lot of CX-30 accident units being sold and tender around. In KL there already got air bag repairer with full complete dashboard mold repair and air bag replacement ready for CX-30, just imagine how many CX-30 already involved in accident and done repair for now.
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Maybe the airbag sensor very sensitive. Little impact already trigger airbag
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QUOTE(heihei2 @ Aug 20 2024, 10:00 AM)
u can go veloz n corolla group
they more willing to talk this issue  whistling.gif
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i didn't go to Veloz group, but Corolla group everywhere I can't find any problem as widespread as Civic.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 20 2024, 03:32 PM)
Most of the accident units got all air bags deployed and front impact, if it is on the side or rear those are from other factors. I just shared what i saw lately, as a lot of units being tender, scrap, repair and i believe some will flow back into market as used units so for those who are looking at Mazda CX-30 rides at a very good deal in 2nd market better check with insurance or jpj using the car chassis no. as what i heard those who repair and sell back most will change the plat no. also.
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Nowadays even very minor accidents also quickly go viral online, lol. If so many cx30 involve in collision that can make it turn into total loss, the news can still kept unaware? Dash cam is everywhere bro. Yesterday even lorry breakdown outside my house also got ppl snatched photo and provide live reporting in group chat.

Anyway, if no driver of cx30 dead in the so call "many accidents that have been verified by your source", mean the car did a good job in protecting the driver with it's safety features la.


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QUOTE(SasuKopa @ Aug 20 2024, 01:57 PM)
from civic steering rack problems, to torsion beam causing total lost.

i'm just gonna leave the thread here to see how things escalate. lol
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Aug 21 2024, 08:13 AM)
Corolla group everywhere I can't find any problem as widespread as Civic.
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I honestly find it hard to believe.

No way Toyota will let that prolong and tarnish their legendary reliability reputation? laugh.gif

But, not as widespread maybe because much fewer owners?
And/or unker less likely to viral stuff and would attempt to resolve issue behind closed doors.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 21 2024, 10:51 AM)
I honestly find it hard to believe.

No way Toyota will let that prolong and tarnish their legendary reliability reputation? laugh.gif

But, not as widespread maybe because much fewer owners?
And/or unker less likely to viral stuff and would attempt to resolve issue behind closed doors.
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In the US, no unker is ashamed to report Toyota problems.
my main attempts are Toyota nation forum based on US, which is a very large group. It is still the best selling US car afterall. NHTSA also has open logs of issues you can search.

https://m.carcomplaints.com/Toyota/Corolla/2023/ vs https://m.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Civic/2023/ vs https://m.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Civic/2017/

The same search for Toyota corolla nets less than 100 over the last decade.

The first thing we want to establish is whether the design is defective (affects the whole supply chain everywhere) and the above links prove it.

Only on the 2nd stage we want to establish whether it is a localized issue (Thailand Toyota factory vs Melaka factory) such as process or supplier issue. But once design is bad, no need to go and blame the process. Professionally speaking I will find the design team and ask for the root cause here.
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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Aug 21 2024, 10:04 AM)
Nowadays even very minor accidents also quickly go viral online, lol. If so many cx30 involve in collision that can make it turn into total loss, the news can still kept unaware? Dash cam is everywhere bro. Yesterday even lorry breakdown outside my house also got ppl snatched photo and provide live reporting in group chat.

Anyway, if no driver of cx30 dead in the so call "many accidents that have been verified by your source", mean the car did a good job in protecting the driver with it's safety features la.
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BTW, back to basic do you know that car safety got 2 category Active & Passive?

Go do research about this 2. Both are equally need to be good. Nowadays a lot of car manufacturer will try to proof their passive safety is good, but do you know active safety the one that prevents accident also equally or more important as it safe time, hassle and money?

Go dig more further those Mazda Active safety test recently, especially small SUV & Automatic emergency braking. These info usually are not shared out.

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 21 2024, 12:05 PM)
BTW, back to basic do you know that car safety got 2 category Active & Passive?

Go do research about this 2. Both are equally need to be good. Nowadays a lot of car manufacturer will try to proof their passive safety is good, but do you know active safety the one that prevents accident also equally or more important as it safe time, hassle and money?

Go dig more further those Mazda Active safety test recently, especially small SUV & Automatic emergency braking. These info usually are not shared out.
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Bro, Google already exist in this world for over 10 years already....no need to wait for your turn to explain what is passive and active car safety features la, not enough to show off, lol.

Me and other forumers here are just sharing same thought with you, your way of thinking is too narrow, from what we can see on how you draw conclusion on the matter. You saw or heard the workshop got many claim on cx30 then you think it's active features failed because it can't prevent accident. And even claim it's torsion beam might contribute to accident....WTF, lol. Yet there are so many factors that can contribute to a car accident. Can I said BMW got problem also since so many BM crashed on the road every year? Last year my friend's younger brother crashed his 330 due to the tyre skidded in heavy rain, as he drove too fast, so was the car got problem? Or the otak got problem? Unless you and your friend in charge for all claims of accidents and have ample data size. Otherwise your statements are just hear say.

Some more cx30 got high spec and low spec, the low specs don't have smart braking features that can prevent collision. All cx30 that were sent to the workshop of your friend are full specs version?

Just to clarify, uncle only have one civic and crv at home. No mazda

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Hail the almighty mechanic friend.

If so confident with the mechanic friend, just publish the shop name, address. We'll judge actual reputable pro or bawah pokok ourselves...
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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Aug 21 2024, 01:57 PM)
Bro, Google already exist in this world for over 10 years already....no need to wait for your turn to explain what is passive and active car safety features la, not enough to show off, lol.

Me and other forumers here are just sharing same thought with you, your way of thinking is too narrow, from what we can see on how you draw conclusion on the matter. You saw or heard the workshop got many claim on cx30 then you think it's active features failed because it can't prevent accident. And even claim it's torsion beam might contribute to accident....WTF, lol. Yet there are so many factors that can contribute to a car accident. Can I said BMW got problem also since so many BM crashed on the road every year? Last year my friend's younger brother crashed his 330 due to the tyre skidded in heavy rain, as he drove too fast, so was the car got problem? Or the otak got problem? Unless you and your friend in charge for all claims of accidents and have ample data size. Otherwise your statements are just hear say.

Some more cx30 got high spec and low spec, the low specs don't have smart braking features that can prevent collision. All cx30 that were sent to the workshop of your friend are full specs version?

Just to clarify, uncle only have one civic and crv at home. No mazda
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Okok, notworthy.gif i rest my case.

BTW, BMW are never a great car in term of safety and their active safety features offering for local cars also quite rare compare to other competitors.
Even my father when bought his BMW also knew they are not perfect, but because of the driving feel and badge. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Aug 21 2024, 01:52 PM)
publish the shop name, address. We'll judge actual reputable pro or bawah pokok ourselves...
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I know who. Lol

And that's all I'll say. Anymore (from whoever , regardless) would be just a dumpster fire

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