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 The Retrievers V2, The Smartest Dog Ever !

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insideurheaven
post Jun 1 2008, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(HolyCross @ Jun 1 2008, 03:51 PM)
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not even a single bark to stranger??
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nope.not at all.but when i put him in the kitchen,coz he's used to be around wif us in the hall,he'll bark coz he dunwan to be alone lor.lolz...buthis bark very very solid.very loud and 'ong'.
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post Jun 1 2008, 07:25 PM

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Hehe... Mine tooo. Only will bark when we left her alone. HolyCross, if you are looking for a guard dog, i am so sorry to say that GR and LR is not a choice for you. smile.gif
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post Jun 1 2008, 08:02 PM

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Hi everyone...
Dog Lover Reporting in ( esp GR & LR )
I have read many pages in this topic and realize that HolyCross would like to buy a pet.

Here is my opinion, LR & GR basically is a very smart dog, however, if u wan to use it to guard ur hse like fierce large breed do is very hard because they are friendly dog.

When they r puppy must well train them, give them freedom, dun everyday also put them in the cage or tie them in ur garden, it is no good for them. Actually they also same like human got thinking one.

Think properly before u buy a GR too. Many of the owner love them very much when they are puppy, because they really damn damn cute. But after they grow start dislike them because their fur. However LR do not have much of this problems.


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post Jun 1 2008, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(kyrix @ Jun 1 2008, 08:02 PM)
Hi everyone...
Dog Lover Reporting in ( esp GR & LR )
I have read many pages in this topic and realize that HolyCross would like to buy a pet.

Here is my opinion, LR & GR basically is a very smart dog, however, if u wan to use it to guard ur hse like fierce large breed do is very hard because they are friendly dog.

When they r puppy must well train them, give them freedom, dun everyday also put them in the cage or tie them in ur garden, it is no good for them. Actually they also same like human got thinking one.

Think properly before u buy a GR too. Many of the owner love them very much when they are puppy, because they really damn damn cute. But after they grow start dislike them because their fur. However LR do not have much of this problems.
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but i want labrador...the body very...big look strong.

i mean if i put it outside..no body outside...only 1 guy outside the fence..lab not even a small/single bark??
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post Jun 1 2008, 09:24 PM

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hahaha...
dun worry, in that case every dog also will bark one....even a poddle also will bark loud loud...
that one is thier born skill....
But bear in mind, if really a person climb in ur hse, LR wont bite him n will juz bark...not like others fierce like German Sherp will bite one...This is wat I so call friendly dog....

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post Jun 1 2008, 09:58 PM

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Hehe... For my choi choi, if a stranger stand outside the fence also she won't bark~~ =.=|| So, i think is up to the dog you bought and how you train it. smile.gif
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post Jun 1 2008, 10:41 PM

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in my case,ben is damn friendly to anyone including the contractors doing my house right now.and neighbours as well.he don't bark at all.if u wan a good watchdog,u shud get a gsd or doberman or even a rottie which is better lor.my cousin's labs only bark at strangers and don't bite them.but their barks is powerful solid one...hehe...same as mine too.
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post Jun 1 2008, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(insideurheaven @ Jun 1 2008, 10:41 PM)
in my case,ben is damn friendly to anyone including the contractors doing my house right now.and neighbours as well.he don't bark at all.if u wan a good watchdog,u shud get a gsd or doberman or even a rottie which is better lor.my cousin's labs only bark at strangers and don't bite them.but their barks is powerful solid one...hehe...same as mine too.
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yea i want something like that..just bark no need to bite(later bite.the man find lawyer come and sue me shocking.gif )
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post Jun 2 2008, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(HolyCross @ Jun 1 2008, 11:00 PM)
yea i want something like that..just bark no need to bite(later bite.the man find lawyer come and sue me shocking.gif )
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hmm..u can explore your options first lor besides lab.see which is better lor.sometimes no bark at all lei....my joey still barks so we know who's at the door.but if i don't have joey,ben surely won't bark at all lor.have u gone to abc ah

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post Jun 2 2008, 06:48 AM

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QUOTE(HolyCross @ Jun 1 2008, 11:00 PM)
yea i want something like that..just bark no need to bite(later bite.the man find lawyer come and sue me shocking.gif )
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Yeah....
If u go for German Sherp or Rottie, then u must train them well when they r young or send them to training, if not when they grow u cannot control them well then u will suffer from that. They are serious guard dog, really will bite one...hehe... German Sherp also much fur one o...

For my opinion, if u put ur puppy at ur shop or place with many ppl in n out everyday, they will not too sensitive to stranger after they grow unless they feel those ppl really threathen their owner or them. I think this is also one of the issue o...

Think about it seriously o... choose one breed that u like the most n also can meet ur requirement...


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post Jun 2 2008, 09:30 AM

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Yup, as i know most GR and LR qre quite friendly to everyone, but there still have some that will bark to strangers. I am not sure whether they train the GR/LR or the GR/LR likes to bark at stranger initially.

The problem is, you cannot expect that you MIGHT get 1 GR/LR that will bark to stranger cause it might not. sad.gif So, think properly. My fiend told me that Chow Chow is a good guard dog as well though it is a medium breed but they will bark at stranger (not sure whether will bite or not). Please consider what you need before you buy a dog.

I think mongrel will be a good guard dog cause they will bark at strangers but they might not listen to you as well. Hehe... At 1st when I plan to buy Choi Choi, i have the plan like you, hopefully she will bark at stranger. But, she did not and we decide to may be get another mongrel to be a guard dog loo since we cannot force her to bark ma.... They are friendly dog.. wub.gif wub.gif Hehe... Think twice before you buy... smile.gif Good luck. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 2 2008, 10:10 AM

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Yaya, every dog will accompany you for at least 10 years and u need to commit to them at least 10 years too...
dun buy a dog just because u want him/her to help u guard sumtg...they need care, attention, patient n so on o....
Good Luck to u Holycross...hope that u can get a suitable n best one o...

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Any recommended treats for puppy ar? What should i buy for my choi choi when i train her~~ Hehe.. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 2 2008, 12:14 PM

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Just gone through a few pages of reading.

Hi HolyCross,

You seem uncertain on your choice of breed.
You need to ask yourself honestly what is the purpose of you getting a dog.
If it is really for guarding the house, then GR and LR is NOT for you. Both are more as companion dogs. A better choice of guard dog will be GSD, doberman or rottie. Even a mongrel will make a better guard dog than GR or LR. Please be sure of this first. smile.gif

If you love a big dog and would like one for company, then a GR or LR is a good choice. icon_rolleyes.gif
However, please make sure you have time and attention to care for it as retriever are big active dogs and they need ample for exercise to keep fit and simulated. You will need to bring it for daily walks, not just chain it to a corner of the house for the whole day. They can be destructive if they are bored.

Besides this, you will need to give it plenty of attention as retriever are people dog - meaning they carve for human company and affection. They like to "stick" to people all the time. They don't do so well being alone. Hence, they are not suitable for guarding house as they are most likely to be happy welcoming the robbers rather than preventing them from coming in your house. sweat.gif

On the choice of GR / LR, it depends on individual preference. Both has similar traits and appearance and are equally lovable. The easiest would be to ask yourself whether you are a fussy housekeeper or not. If you are, then LR would be a better choice. GR has longer fur and tend to shed a lot. You will be sweeping the floor most of the time. You will also need to brush their coat daily to keep them nice and healthy.

QUOTE(HolyCross @ May 10 2008, 09:49 AM)
i plan to buy from petstore..because petstore look more legal..any place to recommand in ipoh?? and where do u all throw the poopoo?
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Buy pet need to see "Legal" or not? tongue.gif jk
As per other owner, my advice would be to take your time to search and get one from a home breeder instead. From a home breeder, you would be able to see the sire and the dame actual appearance and health. This is very important as you will be able to know how your puppy will look in the future and whether there is going to be any major health problem or not. You can also have a look at the condition where the breeder bring up the puppy. Is it clean and well kept? You can also have a chat with the breeder on how to care for your puppy. A knowledgable breeder is a sign of good breeder. Another plus point to get from a home breeder is that if there is any problem or emergency, you can call them up to ask for assistance. A good breeder will also call from time to time to check on the puppy condition.

On the question of poopoo, it depends where are you going to toilet trained your dog. Some trained their dog to go to toilet or wee wee pad to do their business. Some dogs only do their business outside the house. When you take a walk outside, just bring along a plastic bag so that you can "tapao" once finished and throw it in the dustbin.

A dog is a commitment for at least 10 years. Don't rush, take your time to look around, learn more before getting any furkid. Be sure that it is what you really want and willing to commit before you buy. Don't buy for the sake of trend, then sell / abandon it once it become unmanagable or when you are bored of it. Our furkids have feelings too. Let's be a responsible owner! nod.gif

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post Jun 2 2008, 08:22 PM

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hello guys,i'm js wondering if anyone gives supplements to our furkids bo?like multivites,cod liver oil etc....currently i m giving cod liver oil & brewers yeast(multivites) by vet to ben.but the vet sold it in small bottles for rm 12 per bottle.it's v expensive as it'll last only one wk plus.i wanna buy a bigger bottle version of the multivites but the vet does not sell in big bottle and did not even wanna tell me the brand of the mulitivites.i welcome suggestions and feedbacks on this matter.thank you.
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Ermmm Pet shop owners who said that dark colour goldens are australian type goldens which are more expensive are bullshitting you.
you shouldnt pay more for darker colour puppies...you should be looking at the health of the pups instead of their colour
So dont get conned...by paying for a supposely premium colour

Golden retriever are quite good watch dogs...my 5 month old retriever puppy is already guarding my house together with my other retriever!

Pictures of my retrievers below...





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btw forgot to emphasize that they are Watch dogs..not Guard dogs..which means that they can bark to warn about strangers..but they wont attack the intruders if they come in...

Get a fila brasilerios if you want a guard dog...not a retriever...but then they are not as handsome as Retrievers of Coz!

my 2 retrievers are the watch dogs while my husky walks around looking fierce Lol...

doesnt she look pretty? lol


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post Jun 2 2008, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(TTY81 @ Jun 2 2008, 09:48 PM)
Ermmm Pet shop owners who said that dark colour goldens are australian type goldens which are more expensive are bullshitting you.
you shouldnt pay more for darker colour puppies...you should be looking at the health of the pups instead of their colour
So dont get conned...by paying for a supposely premium colour

Golden retriever are quite good watch dogs...my 5 month old retriever puppy is already guarding my house together with my other retriever!

Pictures of my retrievers below...
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hey tty81,my breeder sell all his pups regardless of colour with same price.but if pet shop,i don't know wor but maybe they can bullshit the customers lo.say it's good etc.
my ben,even though when he's young,he had very white fur,lighter colour on his ears,but at 4 months now,he's leanier,darker fur and darker ears.is that possible?he's 4 months and yet,he doesn't bark at anyone or alert us if there's anything.maybe too early for him coz just brought him back frm my breeder last wed coz my hse under reno ma....anyways,do you feed vitamins to your retrievers?i would like to compliment on your retrievers.they are gorgeous.the pup you bought from aussie is really beautiful.ben's colour used to be like that when he's 6 weeks.but now it's darken already.no matter how dark he is,i still love him. wub.gif guess he's following his dad coz he is dark golden in colour. rclxm9.gif
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@TTY81

I like the creamy GR, looks fabulous~~ wub.gif wub.gif
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post Jun 3 2008, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(insideurheaven @ Jun 2 2008, 08:22 PM)
hello guys,i'm js wondering if anyone gives supplements to our furkids bo?like multivites,cod liver oil etc....currently i m giving cod liver oil & brewers yeast(multivites) by vet to ben.but the vet sold it in small bottles for rm 12 per bottle.it's v expensive as it'll last only one wk plus.i wanna buy a bigger bottle version of the multivites but the vet does not sell in big bottle and did not even wanna tell me the brand of the mulitivites.i welcome suggestions and feedbacks on this matter.thank you.
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What wrong with your dog ?? need to take so much supplements.... he got eating problem or spicky on food.
Normally supplement given when dog is a year old or he super heavy so supplement to prevent his joints.


Added on June 3, 2008, 9:23 amHi TTY81... how your aussie retriever getting on... his head very big built up.. have you send him for training courses..

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