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 DNB and 2nd 5G network: needed or not?

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mlamlam
post Oct 1 2025, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Sep 30 2025, 10:34 PM)
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https://www.business.maxis.com.my/en/faq/pl...-priority-pass/ - FAQ
.... Who can subscribe for Priority Pass and how much is the subscription fee?

Priority Pass is available at RM29/month (per line basis) if you are currently on any one of the following plans:

Maxis Business Postpaid 169 (including the sharelines)
Business Postpaid 199 (including the sharelines) ...

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The above super high-end Maxis Business subscribers have to pay an extra RM29 monthly to enjoy DNB1's upgraded 5G SA (from 5G NSA) whereas ...
.... U Mobile high-end subscribers, ie on U Postpaid 98​ , U Biz 98​ , U Premium and U Platinum, are enjoying UM Ultra 5G SA (= DNB2) for no extra payment, which is accessible at various locations - 80% coverage by H2 2026.

At this rate and price, U Mobile's DNB2 will beat DNB1 (=Maxis+CelcomDigi+YES).
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like very first time, need to pay extra (RM10) to enjoy 5G service from Maxis....
later not sure will FOC or not

I tried 5G SA in HK, due to limited data quota I didn't do any speedtest, it seems nothing special, no issue youtube, normal browsing etc...
but one thing obviously is when having a call, the signal still maintain 5g, it didn't drop to 4g.
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post Oct 1 2025, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(mlamlam @ Oct 1 2025, 07:40 PM)
like very first time, need to pay extra (RM10) to enjoy 5G service from Maxis....
later not sure will FOC or not

I tried 5G SA in HK, due to limited data quota I didn't do any speedtest, it seems nothing special, no issue youtube, normal browsing etc...
but one thing obviously is when having a call, the signal still maintain 5g, it didn't drop to 4g.
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5G SA also transmits on Low-Band 700MHz (2X20MHz block) = longer range and better object penetration for subscribers, eg better in-building coverage, like in concrete homes, condos/apartments and shophouses.

5G NSA does not transmit on Low-Band, ie transmits mostly only on Mid-Band 3.5GHz (100MHz block) = short range and poor object penetration. .......

GEMINI AI Overview:

5G Standalone (SA) offers improved network performance, including lower latency and faster speeds, through a dedicated 5G core and infrastructure, unlike Non-Standalone (NSA) which relies on the 4G core. Key advantages of SA include the ability to provide full 5G capabilities like ultra-low latency, network slicing, enhanced IoT support, increased energy efficiency, and superior security features.

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post Oct 1 2025, 09:31 PM

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I tried AIS 5G in Bangkok , even in their lift i can get full bar signal with data as well which previously is totally no signal ( same lift ) . Wonder whats the difference with 5G in Malaysia.
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post Oct 2 2025, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(Yaowarat @ Oct 1 2025, 09:31 PM)
I tried AIS 5G in Bangkok , even in their lift i can get full bar signal with data as well which previously is totally no signal ( same lift ) . Wonder whats the difference with 5G in Malaysia.
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https://www.ais.th/en/about-us/network-tech...er/connectivity
.... What is the network coverage of 5G SA?
The network coverage of 5G SA is similar to that of 5G NSA.

5G SA-Compatible Device ...


= depending on your 5G device and phone plan, you can access Thailand AIS's 5G SA and/or 5G NSA network, similar to DNB1. But for DNB2 or U Mobile, you need to have a 5G SA-compatible device and high-end phone plan.
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post Oct 2 2025, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Yaowarat @ Oct 1 2025, 09:31 PM)
I tried AIS 5G in Bangkok , even in their lift i can get full bar signal with data as well which previously is totally no signal ( same lift ) . Wonder whats the difference with 5G in Malaysia.
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Malaysia DNB has no indoor 5G cells deployed. If your telco deployed indoor 5G cells near or inside the lift, you may get full bar. Just like how Sunway Pyramid 4G+ signal looks like
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post Oct 13 2025, 04:25 PM

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Related news update: .......

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ent-with-eastel - U Mobile inks first 5G, 4G wholesale access agreement with Eastel - 13 Oct 2025

= DNB2 or U Mobile 5G SA also will likely have network congestion.
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post Oct 20 2025, 05:53 PM

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Latest news update on U Mobile's 2nd 5G (SA) network:

https://www.lowyat.net/2025/369482/u-mobile...tions-malaysia/ - Network To More Locations; Coverage Stands At 54.9% In Malaysia
Users of the telco may now notice a connection to the newer UM ULTRA5G network while in the Klang Valley, Putrajaya, Labuan, and Pulau Pinang.
BY HEIRUL KAMEL OCTOBER 13, 2025

.... The highest coverage so far is recorded in Putrajaya at 99.7%, followed by Kuala Lumpur and Labuan at 90.8%, Pulau Pinang at 82.3%, and Selangor at 70.9%. ...
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post Oct 20 2025, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 20 2025, 05:53 PM)
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Latest news update on U Mobile's 2nd 5G (SA) network:

https://www.lowyat.net/2025/369482/u-mobile...tions-malaysia/ - Network To More Locations; Coverage Stands At 54.9% In Malaysia
Users of the telco may now notice a connection to the newer UM ULTRA5G network while in the Klang Valley, Putrajaya, Labuan, and Pulau Pinang.
BY HEIRUL KAMEL OCTOBER 13, 2025

.... The highest coverage so far is recorded in Putrajaya at 99.7%, followed by Kuala Lumpur and Labuan at 90.8%, Pulau Pinang at 82.3%, and Selangor at 70.9%. ...
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rubbish network
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post Oct 20 2025, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(NoNameSoldier @ Oct 20 2025, 05:56 PM)
rubbish network
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More info at .......
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=112292858
, ie the soyacincau news link, eg many of DNB2's/U Mobile's 5G (SA) cell towers in KL are ready but not yet operationally deployed or online, likely because U Mobile subscribers could still connect to DNB1's 5G (NSA) network, which U Mobile had already paid DNB1 for yearly access (at RM233 million per year.?).
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post Oct 29 2025, 11:55 PM

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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5544616

Based on this topic...

Under article 5.2 Equipment & Platform Security...

Huawei, ZTE or others Chinese equipment vendors & supplier of 4G, 5G or even 6G might get axed or being reviewed.....

So deployment of 5G by U Mobile could be affected???

Existing Telco equipment vendors & supplier need to be changed too??
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post Nov 1 2025, 09:22 PM

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Looks like U Mobile have upgraded this site with the Huawei Blade AAU. They also swapped the radios form ZTE to Huawei.

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Doesn't seem it's active though. The 5G part at least. Still getting DNB 5G.

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post Nov 2 2025, 02:22 AM

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Also spotted these bad boys at SS 19 Subang Jaya.

https://www.u.com.my/en/about-us/newsroom/p...-5g-connectivit

Huawei MetaAAU
https://ifdesign.com/en/winner-ranking/proj...-metaaau/646357

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post Nov 2 2025, 07:45 PM

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is this the legendary beam forming antenna? u mobile 5G access ZTE sapu E.M, W.M HW sapu. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 29 2025, 11:55 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5544616

Based on this topic...

Under article 5.2 Equipment & Platform Security...

Huawei, ZTE or others Chinese equipment vendors & supplier of 4G, 5G or even 6G  might get axed or being reviewed.....

So deployment of 5G by U Mobile could be affected???

Existing Telco equipment vendors & supplier need to be changed too??
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deal already signed, unker shame gonna pay full penalty for UM? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(jayko @ Nov 2 2025, 07:47 PM)
deal already signed, unker shame gonna pay full penalty for UM? rclxub.gif
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Not sure about it....

Maybe got loopholes to consider???

The deal signed with USA is quite vague....
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post Nov 2 2025, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 2 2025, 07:50 PM)
Not sure about it....

Maybe got loopholes to consider???

The deal signed with USA is quite vague....
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unker shame is ball-less but barking like mad dog, you see europe also force them to ditch HW & ZTE, but don't compensate european at all, so Europe keep on using HW and ZTE, because replace with nokia or ericcson gonna cost them ten of billions of euro, who gonna pay for it? lol biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 29 2025, 11:55 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5544616

Based on this topic...

Under article 5.2 Equipment & Platform Security...

Huawei, ZTE or others Chinese equipment vendors & supplier of 4G, 5G or even 6G  might get axed or being reviewed.....

So deployment of 5G by U Mobile could be affected???

Existing Telco equipment vendors & supplier need to be changed too??
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Don't think that could happen. If so, no point for second network.
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QUOTE(jayko @ Nov 2 2025, 07:54 PM)
unker shame is ball-less but barking like mad dog, you see europe also force them to ditch HW & ZTE, but don't compensate european at all, so Europe keep on using HW and ZTE, because replace with nokia or ericcson gonna cost them ten of billions of euro, who gonna pay for it? lol  biggrin.gif
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I was living in Canada for a good number years and they also had to rip out and replace any Huawei and ZTE gear they might have.

Funny thing is, the last place I lived, when they were installing my internet, the tech mistakenly brought a Nokia/Alcatel transceiver instead of a, get this, a Huawei one. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Epic_winner091 @ Nov 3 2025, 10:27 AM)
I was living in Canada for a good number years and they also had to rip out and replace any Huawei and ZTE gear they might have.

Funny thing is, the last place I lived, when they were installing my internet, the tech mistakenly brought a Nokia/Alcatel transceiver instead of a, get this, a Huawei one.  biggrin.gif
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Canada at it one time got it own telco equipment called Nortel, but thanks to the management that prioritize stock price over R&D, the end fate is not hard to predict. i know bell and telus are big players. my guess is smaller players tend to use Huawei & ZTE as they don't have the big barjet like their big player counterparts, as they are serving rural area where less revenue can be generated. as in the case of USA. Federal Government have to subsidize the replacement cost, which is cut the nose to spike the face. Which ever that float the boat of these unhinged governments.
Transceiver? that mean you are on FTTH? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Nov 3 2025, 10:19 AM)
Don't think that could happen. If so, no point for second network.
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This agreement is one sided one.... So scared with those Chinese vendors.... They said about backdoor holes & security reasons....

Those Western one don't have backdoor holes security issues???? Sure got one... CIA or so is monitoring....

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