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post May 22 2025, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(OfficiallyAhmad @ May 22 2025, 03:41 PM)
That's an interesting experience. Thanks for sharing your own experience with Maxis on TM HSBB.

Can I have some screenshots or links to post where people discuss this ONU configuration and speed capping would be helpful for reference purposes. Hard to understand the details for me about deprioritizing LAN ports issue without something to reference to. If you can share, I appreciate it very much.
  You bought up good point there but then, won't the MNO themselves are eventually becoming the shareholders of DNB? So if DNB gets complacent later, isn't that essentially saying the MNO themselves aren't pushing for innovation or improvement on DNB?

And this ties back to your point about 3G/4G failures being MCMC fault due to regulation. My question is, if the 4G era was a competitive market between MNO building their own networks, why did MNO still need MCMC pushing them so hard on basic coverage and quality standards? Shouldn't "competition" naturally drive innovation beyond just the bare minimum regulated standard?

If MNO in a competitive market still need MCMC to force them to improve coverage, and with DNB having a wholesale network can potentially become complacent according to you, doesn't that indicate the issue is not with the network wholesale structure but perhaps MNO lack of innovation beyond coverage from the MNO themselves? Why is it always everyone fault but the MNO get the free pass to be complacent?

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In my opinion, DNB wholesale network at least forces the MNO to compete on plans price and services because coverage should be a basic requirement that all MNO and consumer deserve to get. With DNB, consumers get the benefits of competition through cheaper plans price without sacrificing coverage, something that "competitive" 4G era didn't manage deliver effectively based on the pricing and coverage issues I saw.

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Go and read the Maxis fibre topic, the Digi fibre topic in this forum. There is also the ditch ONU topic which you can easily find in this forum.

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Yes, the MNOs does hold equity in DNB, but partial ownership means their ability to steer DNB’s priorities is limited. Decision making as wholesale network is dependent on DNB as a central entity. Now all MNOs to have the same way in managing and running telco with slightly little room to innovate according to their own business outcomes. If DNB underdelivers in terms of network quality, all MNOs will face the same problem.
Coverage expansion into unprofitable or rural areas often requires regulatory push, which MCMC has not done well by letting telcos get away with minimal compliance and a small contribution to the Universal Service Provision (USP) Fund.

Just because MNOs needed regulatory pressure under 4G, doesn't mean a monopoly structure like DNB is a superior alternative and can deliver better outcome all the time. DNB levels the field on coverage, but beyond that it is also important to look at service quality, latency, new features, and infrastructure resiliency which each telcos will have their own plan to deal with.
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QUOTE(YoungMan @ May 22 2025, 08:23 PM)
Go and read the Maxis fibre topic, the Digi fibre topic in this forum. There is also the ditch ONU topic which you can easily find in this forum.

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Yes, the MNOs does hold equity in DNB, but partial ownership means their ability to steer DNB’s priorities is limited. Decision making as wholesale network is dependent on DNB as a central entity. Now all MNOs to have the same way in managing and running telco with slightly little room to innovate according to their own business outcomes. If DNB underdelivers in terms of network quality, all MNOs will face the same problem.
Coverage expansion into unprofitable or rural areas often requires regulatory push, which MCMC has not done well by letting telcos get away with minimal compliance and a small contribution to the Universal Service Provision (USP) Fund.

Just because MNOs needed regulatory pressure under 4G, doesn't mean a monopoly structure like DNB is a superior alternative and can deliver better outcome all the time. DNB levels the field on coverage, but beyond that it is also important to look at service quality, latency, new features, and infrastructure resiliency which each telcos will have their own plan to deal with.
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It is MCMC job to regulate and enforce laws to ensure telco provide good coverage. MCMC even got telco to pool money from a percentage of their revenue so MCMC can decide and build towers to serve underserve area, just that the money probably gone with the wind … DNB is basically a project to cover MCMC own failure in doing their job as regulator and enforcement agency … “i sucked at my job so you need to buy me a new Macbook” …

You have a good point that telco holding a minority non-controlling stake in DNB basically is like I bought shares in Maxis and CDB, i cant dictate what Maxis and CDB can or cannot do … DNB is a non-profit org, so Maxis, CDB and YES basically burnt their investment in DNB from Day 1. Ong KM once mentioned about a golden share in DNB, means even if telco own shares, the one holding golden share will dictate, which is MOF. DNB is bad deal for all the suckers that own it (they paid cause is prerequisite for second 5G network contest)… TM is smart cause they know they wont win so save RM200M save time and effort, UM is destined to be the winner even before contest starts…

How many percent is DNB coverage now, inside mall still nothing. Coverage 90% already? Since no comparison, DNB can report anything they want with no consequences, MCMC needs to cover for DNB since they promote and hardsell DNB.




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The DNB model of shared ownership by all players is actually the best model that prevents monopoly practices.
However the recent award of DNB 2 to Umobile alone if not careful is repeating the same mistake as TM's previous HSBB open network once again.
You're allowing a player who is in the consumer ISP retail business to manage an open network which rents part of it to other players.

A monopoly and unfair practices will surely happen again with the owner of the network prioritizing the network for themselves instead.
Just as how the other ISPs always complaining that TM Unifi prioritizes its services above them when it comes to repairs and breakdowns.

How could they not see the same thing happening again with DNB2?

MCMC must insist that DNB 2 be opened up to other players and be allowed equal shareholding before awarding the licensing rights for another alternative open network.



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From the old days (pre 2000), the Malaysian government only enforced heavy/strict regulation on the essential services of water and electricity supply, esp on the service fees charged to ordinary consumers. Mobile 1G/2G/3G phone calls and Fixed Internet services were then considered non-essential services (= luxury services) = TM Streamyx/Unifi Fiber and celcos were lightly regulated = more free open market to set service fees which tended to be on the high side, eg TM Streamyx 1Mbps = RM89 per month and 1GB 3G data = RM10.

Since the launch of fast (30Mbps) Mobile 4G Internet data in the 2010s, Internet service has become an essential service, eg banking apps, WFH, MySejahtera, e-Wallets, Grab, Foodpanda, PADU, etc, but heavy regulation by the government wrt fees charged by celcos, has been slow to catch up, ie they are still being lightly regulated. Why.?

Hint: the celcos are CelcomDigi, TM Unifi Mobile, U Mobile, Maxis and YES. .......

https://www.nst.com.my/business/corporate/2...-sharp-rise-tax - CelcomDigi's Q1 earnings (= net profit) up 1.9pct to RM383.78mil, offset by sharp rise in tax expenses - 22 May 2025
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Kerjasama TM-U Mobile tawar 5G lebih pantas, harga lebih rendah

Pengguna dijangka menikmati perkhidmatan 5G yang lebih pantas pada kadar harga lebih rendah susulan kerjasama strategik antara Telekom Malaysia Bhd ™ dan U Mobile bagi mempercepatkan pelaksanaan rangkaian 5G generasi baharu di seluruh negara.

https://www.bharian.com.my/bisnes/teknologi...ga-lebih-rendah

Govt to use MSAP to keep 5G services cheap and fast, says Fahmi

The government will use the mandatory standard on access pricing or MSAP to ensure that 5G services remain affordable and fast, says communications minister Fahmi Fadzil.

“With this mechanism, we can make sure that prices remain competitive. It also enables the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission to ensure that ordinary consumers get better prices in the future,” he told reporters.

Fahmi said U Mobile and Digital Nasional Bhd (DNB) would leverage TM’s extensive fibre network, keeping costs manageable.

When asked if TM would also be part of the 5G roll-out, Fahmi said while TM could support infrastructure needs, only two players were officially involved in 5G services.

One is with DNB and the other is with U Mobile,” he said.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...fast-says-fahmi


U Mobile Appoints TM As Principal Fibre Backhaul Partner To Drive Its 5G Network Deployment


TM will provide U Mobile with a full suite of backhaul services. These include fibre leased line access for U Mobile’s 5G Radio Access Network (RAN), leasing of data centre and TM Edge facilities for Points of Interconnect (POIs), and trunk leased lines for inter-regional data transmission. The collaboration leverages TM’s vast fibre network, which covers over 740,000 kilometres and represents the most extensive backhaul infrastructure in the country.

https://www.lowyat.net/2025/353867/u-mobile...ner-5g-rollout/

It don't said Telekom Malaysia Bhd ™ High-Speed Broadband (HSBB) network

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If all the other telcos (previous Big 3 - Maxis & Celcom/DiGi(now merged) and even YES refuses to join DNB 2 as an equal share partner the 5G network will be dead on arrival and worst it relies on TM's nationwide fibre network leasing to power their base stations.

CAPEX for DNB 2 will become a burden for U Mobile being a smaller telco among the other Big 3 which will cost them to raise their subscription rates to push it to users.

SG has already divested their shareholding in the company so it'll make fundraising even harder for them to build the nation's 2nd 5G network by themselves.

What are they thinking? Are they planning to swallow it all by themselves and repeat the same failed game as TM's HSBB so called Open Network but one single company owns it all but intend to do wholesale to other retail service providers?


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With DNB 5G, the cost effiency is instant result. Everyone and journalist and even international 6G researcher already notice the benefits of using wholesale rollout. MNO doesn't have to buy spectrum and MCMC doesn't need to allocate a lot of spectrum and the cost to maintain the network is fair and square for every MNO.

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Ironically after DNB, now we can see the effect of what should the competition do where price and innovation is being prioritize instead of bragging about having the biggest network. Because during the 4G days, the reason people pay expensive plan price is because of coverage only, not because of the extra service they get and I'm sure they don't even care about the extra services.

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So for a decades these big MNO get away charging high prices yet some people said that competition makes everything cheaper which is why I'm weird why a monopoly like DNB can somehow make these 5G price plan cheaper than 4G if the cost is much higher than building own network.

What is the use of competition if the goverment still need to babysit the MNO? Might as well rip the band-aid off and use the rollout model where spectrum can be used efficiently and MNO get the same coverage. With MSAP, goverment can certainly ensure the price is keep affordable instead of expecting these MNO who only know how to drain the customer wallet dry for the shareholders.

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Even in other country, they already start to use wholesale network for their 5G knowing how efficient the rollout model is. Ironically, Malaysia MNO and shareholder doesn't have problem with rural MOCN almost like privatize the profits while socialize the losses.

In my opinion, the long term of wholesale network will benefits all people without any bias towards profitability area. TNB and Pos Malaysia shown what a centralize organization can do, every rural spot is covered by Pos and TNB. Not even international courier can have the same rural coverage like Pos Malaysia.

user posted image https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025...e-6-way-4g-mocn

I agree that giving the second wholesale network to Umobile can be a mistake because of concern about MNO priority possibility and Umobile funding capibility. In my oppinion, Only Maxis and CelcomDigi should be the only MNO that enter the submission.
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QUOTE(OfficiallyAhmad @ Jun 2 2025, 08:05 PM)

I agree that giving the second wholesale network to Umobile can be a mistake because of concern about MNO priority possibility and Umobile funding capibility. In my oppinion, Only Maxis and CelcomDigi should be the only MNO that enter the submission.
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The BIGGEST mistake is MCMC awarding just to one single company instead of insisting of a consortium of joint partnership between several telcos among the BIG-3.

How can it just went ahead to award to some small unproven company which wasn't even one of the Big-3 getting 100% of the award.

It's just too sus.

The whole model of a DNB shared network is supposed to be an open one of a joint consortium with shared ownership/stakes like many countries did even with DNB 1 as its base model.

Why the sudden award to just 1 small company leaving out the rest? It'll surely end up as a monopoly in future.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 2 2025, 08:31 PM)
The BIGGEST mistake is MCMC awarding just to one single company instead of insisting of a consortium of joint partnership between several telcos among the BIG-3.

How can it just went ahead to award to some small unproven company which wasn't even one of the Big-3 getting 100% of the award.

It's just too sus.

The whole model of a DNB shared network is supposed to be an open one of a joint consortium with shared ownership/stakes like many countries did even with DNB 1 as its base model.

Why the sudden award to just 1 small company leaving out the rest? It'll surely end up as a monopoly in future.
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Feels like everyone already know why the 2nd network is coincidentally only one small MNO instead of shared consortium like DNB.

But I like the bed of my home more than staying behind bar.

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 2 2025, 08:31 PM)
The BIGGEST mistake is MCMC awarding just to one single company instead of insisting of a consortium of joint partnership between several telcos among the BIG-3.

How can it just went ahead to award to some small unproven company which wasn't even one of the Big-3 getting 100% of the award.

It's just too sus.

The whole model of a DNB shared network is supposed to be an open one of a joint consortium with shared ownership/stakes like many countries did even with DNB 1 as its base model.

Why the sudden award to just 1 small company leaving out the rest? It'll surely end up as a monopoly in future.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 2 2025, 08:31 PM)
The BIGGEST mistake is MCMC awarding just to one single company instead of insisting of a consortium of joint partnership between several telcos among the BIG-3.

How can it just went ahead to award to some small unproven company which wasn't even one of the Big-3 getting 100% of the award.

It's just too sus.

The whole model of a DNB shared network is supposed to be an open one of a joint consortium with shared ownership/stakes like many countries did even with DNB 1 as its base model.

Why the sudden award to just 1 small company leaving out the rest? It'll surely end up as a monopoly in future.
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Main problem is DNB was setup without telco in it and made technical decision and procurement to select a vendor that is incompatible with any operators in Malaysia. DNB got in billions ringgit of debt guarantee by MOF.

Unlike other countries where the telcos were the one forming the consortium to decide on the technology behind and also the contract agreement.

The only value with DNB to telco now is the 5G license spectrum, the rest are all bad debts… MOF not wanting to cover the debt now is seeking bailout from the two richer telco, that is why the 2nd license given to UM (one of the reason beside meow)

Therefore, in summary, DNB is a mistake by MOF (Finance minister back then- Z) and now gov wants telco to bail it out …

5G by individual telco > 5G Consortium by telco (like Korea or Singapore) > 5G Consortium by MOF (DNB)

DNB SWN is the only one in the world not setup by telco but by Ministry of Finance that does not know shit about 5G …
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Just curious when will DNB expand it's tower capacity, some of the tower around KL is already reaching maximum, N78 100MHz + B28 20MHz doesn't help, switch to 4G is better and faster.

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QUOTE(Sam Leong @ Jun 26 2025, 10:26 AM)
Just curious when will DNB expand it's tower capacity, some of the tower around KL is already reaching maximum, N78 100MHz + B28 20MHz doesn't help, switch to 4G is better and faster.

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It cant... Gov take back another 100mhz to umobile...
Previously whole malaysia users can use 200mhz together...


Now is 33m subs using dnb 5g and 6m subs using um 5g...
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QUOTE(prosibu @ Jun 27 2025, 01:38 PM)
It cant... Gov take back another 100mhz to umobile...
Previously whole malaysia users can use 200mhz together...
Now is 33m subs using dnb 5g and 6m subs using um 5g...
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UMobile yet to activate theirs so now is really congested … 4G better as there are more spectrum than 5G and telco are prohibited to convert their 4G spectrum for 5G … DNB 5G hits its limit and left dying as SWN… problem when Ministry of Finance the one making decision of technology they have no idea what it is …
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jun 21 2025, 03:01 PM)
Main problem is DNB was setup without telco in it and made technical decision and procurement to select a vendor that is incompatible with any operators in Malaysia. DNB got in billions ringgit of debt guarantee by MOF.

Unlike other countries where the telcos were the one forming the consortium to decide on the technology behind and also the contract agreement.

The only value with DNB to telco now is the 5G license spectrum, the rest are all bad debts… MOF not wanting to cover the debt now is seeking bailout from the two richer telco, that is why the 2nd license given to UM (one of the reason beside meow)

Therefore, in summary, DNB is a mistake by MOF (Finance minister back then- Z) and now gov wants telco to bail it out …

5G by individual telco > 5G Consortium by telco (like Korea or Singapore) > 5G Consortium by MOF (DNB)

DNB SWN is the only one in the world not setup by telco but by Ministry of Finance that does not know shit about 5G …
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You said 5G individual is better than consortium, yet the data show otherwise.

Why is it that 10 years after 4G was released, Malaysia 4G is still barely surpassing other ASEAN countries?

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I’ve never seen any Malaysia 4G MNO make world news or achieve anything significant other than finding ways to rip off customers with internet that barely outperformed Thailand.

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Also during the 4G era, there was congestion during peak times too, yet I didn’t see people complaining about MNO 4G "competitive" rollout. Now with 4G network traffic being offloaded to 5G, suddenly everyone puts on rose tinted glasses when talking about the 4G rollout when in reality, the MNO release expensive plan prices with hidden FUP, low data caps, speed caps and many more issue .

Yet with DNB, with just 100MHz spectrum, consumers already get the benefit instantly. You can pay as low as RM25 for unlimited 5G. With DNB, people can now subscribe to affordable home broadband without paying fibre prices like in the 4G era. Has everyone forgotten this?

I don’t remember this much scrutiny when big telcos like Maxis and Celcom charged ridiculous prices during 4G early days. Yet with DNB, from Day One, people got affordable 5G services instantly the moment it went public.

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QUOTE(prosibu @ Jun 27 2025, 01:38 PM)
It cant... Gov take back another 100mhz to umobile...
Previously whole malaysia users can use 200mhz together...
Now is 33m subs using dnb 5g and 6m subs using um 5g...
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For your information, DNB never release the full 200MHz. It's been using 100MHz since the start.
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QUOTE(OfficiallyAhmad @ Jun 29 2025, 02:30 PM)
You said 5G individual is better than consortium, yet the data show otherwise.

Why is it that 10 years after 4G was released, Malaysia 4G is still barely surpassing other ASEAN countries?

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I’ve never seen any Malaysia 4G MNO make world news or achieve anything significant other than finding ways to rip off customers with internet that barely outperformed Thailand.

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Also during the 4G era, there was congestion during peak times too, yet I didn’t see people complaining about MNO 4G "competitive" rollout. Now with 4G network traffic being offloaded to 5G, suddenly everyone puts on rose tinted glasses when talking about the 4G rollout when in reality, the MNO release expensive plan prices with hidden FUP, low data caps, speed caps and many more issue .

Yet with DNB, with just 100MHz spectrum, consumers already get the benefit instantly. You can pay as low as RM25 for unlimited 5G. With DNB, people can now subscribe to affordable home broadband without paying fibre prices like in the 4G era. Has everyone forgotten this?

I don’t remember this much scrutiny when big telcos like Maxis and Celcom charged ridiculous prices during 4G early days. Yet with DNB, from Day One, people got affordable 5G services instantly the moment it went public.
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No matter how you argue, the answer is bad regulation by MCMC.
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QUOTE(OfficiallyAhmad @ Jun 29 2025, 02:30 PM)
You said 5G individual is better than consortium, yet the data show otherwise.

Why is it that 10 years after 4G was released, Malaysia 4G is still barely surpassing other ASEAN countries?

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I’ve never seen any Malaysia 4G MNO make world news or achieve anything significant other than finding ways to rip off customers with internet that barely outperformed Thailand.

user posted image

Also during the 4G era, there was congestion during peak times too, yet I didn’t see people complaining about MNO 4G "competitive" rollout. Now with 4G network traffic being offloaded to 5G, suddenly everyone puts on rose tinted glasses when talking about the 4G rollout when in reality, the MNO release expensive plan prices with hidden FUP, low data caps, speed caps and many more issue .

Yet with DNB, with just 100MHz spectrum, consumers already get the benefit instantly. You can pay as low as RM25 for unlimited 5G. With DNB, people can now subscribe to affordable home broadband without paying fibre prices like in the 4G era. Has everyone forgotten this?

I don’t remember this much scrutiny when big telcos like Maxis and Celcom charged ridiculous prices during 4G early days. Yet with DNB, from Day One, people got affordable 5G services instantly the moment it went public.
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The reason probably because Altel was awarded a huge chunk of 4G spectrums while the other 4 were given small amount of spectrums to launch their 4G. Then Telco has to pay rent to Altel and Redtone to rent their spectrum. Altel and Redtone just happily pocket the rental without doing anything … Therefore the explaination on the capacity and price/GB … because telco need to recuperate the investment they paid Altel and Redtone. Malaysia has 6-7 telcos while other countries 2-4 operators, so for same investment on the network, msia telcos unable to recover earning fast enough and not able to bring ARPU lower than other countries …

In summary, gov intereference and cryonism cause Msians the problem back in 4G.

Now in 5G, gov again attempt to interfere with telco businesses, and causing the DNB problem. We are now enroute to see poor 5G quality happening … the early fame for Msia 5G ending … DNB runs out of money and they in huge debt, yea Msians enjoy cheap 5G which they decide to turn off so they can use 4G instead cause quality turns bad, the only thing Msians get is 5G logo not the great service anymore … premature ejaculated on all the paid marketing and news reporting DNB pumping into all the adverising agencies and newsgroup to promote themselves - fastest speed globally, most consistent 5G paid advertisement … now water runs dry, you dont see those fancy ranking talking great Msia 5G anymore … no money no glory …
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jun 29 2025, 06:00 PM)
The reason probably because Altel was awarded a huge chunk of 4G spectrums while the other 4 were given small amount of spectrums to launch their 4G. Then Telco has to pay rent to Altel and Redtone to rent their spectrum. Altel and Redtone just happily pocket the rental without doing anything … Therefore the explaination on the capacity and price/GB … because telco need to recuperate the investment they paid Altel and Redtone. Malaysia has 6-7 telcos while other countries 2-4 operators, so for same investment on the network, msia telcos unable to recover earning fast enough and not able to bring ARPU lower than other countries …

In summary, gov intereference and cryonism cause Msians the problem back in 4G.

Now in 5G, gov again attempt to interfere with telco businesses, and causing the DNB problem. We are now enroute to see poor 5G quality happening … the early fame for Msia 5G ending … DNB runs out of money and they in huge debt, yea Msians enjoy cheap 5G which they decide to turn off so they can use 4G instead cause quality turns bad, the only thing Msians get is 5G logo not the great service anymore … premature ejaculated on all the paid marketing and news reporting DNB pumping into all the adverising agencies and newsgroup to promote themselves - fastest speed globally, most consistent 5G paid advertisement … now water runs dry, you dont see those fancy ranking talking great Msia 5G anymore … no money no glory …
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Hahaha, we do not hear DNB expanding coverage anymore. Forever stuck at 82%.

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