Well... For sure that ATI's reference red PCB + red hugea$$ cooler + red haired computer generated bimbo combo is FTW over NV's sucky green stuff.

i saw in vr-zone.. 1st or 2nd quarter 08 will come out RV680..

hmmm.. whats the difference between RV670/RV680?

dude u think u better check the prices
i already got the prices from all Ati partners
its more expensive than the 8800gt with no game bundle whatsoever.

its better u actually check the prices instead of hoping on the inquirer and some weird postings on some websites...

so far the 8800gt was sold lower than the MRSP when u see the OEM prices of those cards.

if it's RM700, then crossfire RM1400 and perform better than the Ultra....hoot dah!!!

No actually,

AA is now normal, aka no big performance drops!

At 8XAA it's faster than the 8800GT.

comparison between 2900xt single and cf vs 3870 single and cf

more likely the 3870 will be around RM750, though.

I still think 8800gt better investment, at least can last until next x'mas.

currently 3870 is way expensive than the cheapest 88gt i can find

some shop quoted me 88gt for 860, n another place 3870 for 1099

but ati official pricing puts it cheaper then 88gt... so i gues retailers are making huge profits over this hot parts now..