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 Radeon HD 3870 and HD 3850 On The Horizon, The Dark Side is POWERFUL . come join

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post Nov 28 2007, 02:24 AM

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wait HD3970? or HD3870?

the one ATI released is called HD3800 series with 70 being the equivalent of the XT and 50 equivalent of a pro.
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post Nov 28 2007, 02:27 AM

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wui....typo ke ? HD3970 ? laugh.gif
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post Nov 28 2007, 06:27 AM

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post Nov 28 2007, 08:49 AM

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wow weiiii...ATI nowadays can beat Nvidia ah? thats great!!! guys...is there any ATI GC can beat 8800gt on the performance side? what model is it?
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post Nov 28 2007, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(frags @ Nov 27 2007, 10:34 PM)
Dude...same problem...Quite a few XP users have this problem...something about an Error 'data.size ()!=3...

There is a work around this:
http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm...1&enterthread=y
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ya that prob..
can be solved only using manual installation? shakehead.gif
will try later..

QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Nov 28 2007, 12:01 AM)
notworthy.gif may i know what PSU is recomended 4 HD 3970??? if i use my rig below n change the 1950pro to HD 3870???  i think true power 550w enough???  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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seriously i ran on 400W.. but no time play with them yet.. busy˛..
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post Nov 28 2007, 11:13 AM

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uh donno this posted or not...
benchmarks between 8800gt 256mb and ati 3850

8800gt 256mb vs 3850 256mb
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post Nov 28 2007, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(speedflame5973 @ Nov 28 2007, 08:49 AM)
wow weiiii...ATI nowadays can beat Nvidia ah? thats great!!! guys...is there any ATI GC can beat 8800gt on the performance side? what model is it?
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it was dual card setup (hd3870 crossfire vs 8800gt sli), yap ati crossfire perform better then sli (own experience), but when turn to single vga nvidia win every test and game
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post Nov 28 2007, 11:25 AM

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Is the 3870X2 lost to single 8800GT?
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post Nov 28 2007, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(rsangel @ Nov 28 2007, 12:25 PM)
Is the 3870X2 lost to single 8800GT?
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wow....3870 X2 means 2 3870s running in one card...i think its better than one 8800GT.
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post Nov 28 2007, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(rsangel @ Nov 28 2007, 11:25 AM)
Is the 3870X2 lost to single 8800GT?
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of coz hd3870x2 (corssfire alredy) win over 8800gt due dual chip on a single card
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post Nov 28 2007, 01:56 PM

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Finally they (ATI) learn something on how to be the best. But dont forget Nvidia 9800 waiting in the list. It is said to be 2x more power than 8800 ultra. Check this out:

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1. By Q4 2007 (Xmas) NVIDIA will be releasing their GeForce 9800 series GPUs.
Unlike previously expected the codename for nVidia's next generation GPU will NOT be "G90" but instead be "G92".

G92 will be released in November 2007 timeframe, which would make sense... The 8800GT has the G92. It would seem that they're letting us test it, overclock it.

"G92" GeForce 9800 GTX specs.

- 65nm process technology at TSMC.
- Over one billion transistors.
- Second Generation Unified Shader Architecture.
- Double precsion support (FP64).
- GPGPU native.
- Over one TeraFLOPS of shader processing power.
- MADD+ADD configuration for the shader untis (2+1 FLOPS=3 FLOPS per ALU)
- Fully Scalar design.
- 512-bit memory interface.
- 1024MB GDDR4 graphics memory.
- DirectX 10.1 support.
- OpenGL 3.0 Support.
- eDRAM die for "FREE 4xAA".
- built in Audio Chip.
- built in tesselation unit (in the graphics core"
- Improved AA and AF quality levels

Pros.

65nm process will allow for better yields and better power consumption. power consumption will be lower than that of a GeForce 8800 GTX.

GeForce 9800 GTX will be over two times faster than a GeForce 8800 Ultra in real world games and applcations.

Release date : November 2007. There will be TWO products at launch: The flagship GeForce 9800 GTX and the second fastest GeForce 9800 GTS.

price for the GeForce 9800 GTX will be 549-649 USD.

price for the GeForce 9800 GTS will be 399-449 USD.


But thats only speculation. Then again i'm maybe wrong. icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by InnerMax: Nov 28 2007, 01:59 PM
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post Nov 28 2007, 02:08 PM

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That's so old, and so wrong.
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post Nov 28 2007, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(InnerMax @ Nov 28 2007, 01:56 PM)
Finally they (ATI) learn something on how to be the best. But dont forget Nvidia 9800 waiting in the list. It is said to be 2x more power than 8800 ultra. Check this out:
But thats only speculation. Then again i'm maybe wrong.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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dude what rubbish
ure quoting something that was speculated 7-8 months ago

they didnt even know that the 8800gt was this god.. so wazzup??

speculation

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ATI is releasing the RV1000.
Its suppose to be 10gigaflops and can blow u away....

It has a inbuild octa core with nitro cooling...

and its built on a 1nm fab.

The size of the card is suppose to be as small as a card holder.

It is noted that the first buyer who preordered this monsther card  is the famous cstkl1's maid who until today remain anonymous.
She is said to be the first astronaut for indonesia and will be give a datukship equivalent in indonesian 

The price is quoted at RM1.
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post Nov 28 2007, 02:28 PM

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Next Geforce high end part will not be G92 right now. It will use the G80 IIRC due to the need for high clockspeeds and the supply and clocking issues with the G92.
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post Nov 28 2007, 02:32 PM

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Those Radeon HD3870 and HD3850 (Crossfire Mode) giving Nvidia 8800GT (SLI Mode) a run for its money.

Funny how one single 8800GT can beat one Radeon HD3870 consistently yet two Radeon HD3870 performed just as good if not better than two Radeon HD3850.

Now, we have more choices and with reviews up the internet, consumer can make an informed decision which to sink their hard earned money into.
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post Nov 28 2007, 03:12 PM

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yeah but hmm one thing is being downplayed

the catalyst control program to control crossfire still sux badly

it crashes for no reason.. etc blah blah blah.. list goes on and on

while nvidia performance might be lower etc
does not happen so often in xp
except for vista 64.
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post Nov 28 2007, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Nov 28 2007, 01:28 AM)
Next Geforce high end part will not be G92 right now. It will use the G80 IIRC due to the need for high clockspeeds and the supply and clocking issues with the G92.
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It will be a non-cutdown G92 for the faster card coming soon. G80 has been EOL'd, they're just selling whatever old stocks they have.
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post Nov 28 2007, 04:25 PM

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hmmm i tried all the bios

they work well single card
but not when u crossfire it...

i wonder y...
currently back to the msi oc bios 800core stock mem

Added on November 28, 2007, 4:38 pmps i find running crysis gpu demo gpu benchmark loop a very good test to test stability. for gpu

and for cpu use the cpu benchmark...

usually i increase the loop to 10 for both via editing the bat file.

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post Nov 28 2007, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(168257061 @ Nov 28 2007, 11:41 AM)
wow....3870 X2 means 2 3870s running in one card...i think its better than one 8800GT.
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but d down side is d power consuming...
afraid gonna eat a lot of juice to powah up!!!
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post Nov 29 2007, 12:20 AM

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I think 3870 crossfire performance will be no more than 50% over highly overclock 8800GT.
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