I was really hoping that this card would have whoop 8800GT back to the stone age eventhrough I owned a Geforce 8800GT.

This is because I don't want to see another Nvidia as a monopoly like say Microsoft. Giving the monopolistic power will only cause the consumer to suffer.

The reason being there are not any laws in Malaysia to promote fair competition therefore there won't be any antitrust case. Malaysia loves monopolistic behaviour in all aspect be it private sector or non-private sector. Only one party always suffer = the consumer/customer/people.

Remember intel executed really well for the last few years.

Apparently they were able to block branded computers like Dell, Sony, Toshiba and the rest of the laptop/desktop makers using AMD chips. By just threatening adverse contract conditions.

That is monopolistic behaviour. It doesn't mean that who perform well or not, things to happen at a larger scale other than performance. May not be visible to most media.

Well, at least some people agree that monopolistic behaviour isn't good for anything other than the company themselves.

Performance I agree both of Nvidia and Intel won BUT
they should compete fairly and not put up several barriers other than performance and value. (Eg. like lobbying groups of company via contract not to use competitor products.)

Intel case was in both happening in Europe and Japan. It was a huge issue in Japan. There was several antitrust cases against Intel.

Well, even if they did do whatever Intel did to Japan or Europe. We can't bring them to court because there is simply no fair competition act in Malaysia.

Also nothing is completely different, it is argueable from different perspective.

I agree with the idea that AMD/ATI would be able to capture the slightly lower than Geforce 8800gt market share if they were to play the pricing.

85% of geforce 8800gt price seems reasonable to counter that. Slightly closer to the pricing of Geforce 8600gt.

Is it just me or everyone else.

I think the reference cooler for AMD Radeon looks awfully like Artic Cooling Silencer.

I was hoping they continue with those design, seems more sensible than a sandwich heatsink.

Those Radeon HD3870 and HD3850 (Crossfire Mode) giving Nvidia 8800GT (SLI Mode) a run for its money.

Funny how one single 8800GT can beat one Radeon HD3870 consistently yet two Radeon HD3870 performed just as good if not better than two Radeon HD3850.

Now, we have more choices and with reviews up the internet, consumer can make an informed decision which to sink their hard earned money into.

A new Radeon 2900 series cooler. 3 slot beast from Artic Cooling.

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=713&p=0

Sorry couldn't find another thread to post it on. Not sure whether can use with the Radeon 3800 series.

Artic Cooling coolers are usually easy to fit and pre applied with thermal paste.

Watercooling seems to be the way to go these days.

Cool and quiet.

Saphire card looks very good and probably perform just as well. Does that radiator has a fan? Doesn't seem so.

Thanks in advance