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post Nov 15 2007, 06:40 PM

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at last got 3850 review...

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=482
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post Nov 15 2007, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Nov 15 2007, 07:26 PM)
god... i really want this, 512MB at least, either gDDR4 or gDDR3, not to mention cheaper than 8800GT (8800GT too is a very good replacement for my 7950GT) tongue.gif
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cheaper? i thought same price like 8800gt..
performance also so-so..

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post Nov 15 2007, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(jinaun @ Nov 15 2007, 07:54 PM)
currently 3870 is way expensive than the cheapest 88gt i can find

some shop quoted me 88gt for 860, n another place 3870 for 1099

but ati official pricing puts it cheaper then 88gt... so i gues retailers are making huge profits over this hot parts now..
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haha... that asus top sure quoted even more.. very bad..
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post Nov 20 2007, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Nov 20 2007, 09:18 AM)
I think there's no 512MB version of 3850.
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got.. but not arrive yet.. if around Rm800 still expensive..
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post Nov 27 2007, 05:18 PM

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anyone use 3870 in winxp?
which catalyst driver ur using?
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post Nov 27 2007, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 27 2007, 07:01 PM)
errr catalyst supports all os

they are the same..
its not like nvidia cards...
which nowadays u have to install different drivers for different GPU cores and different OS's
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that's why i wonder.. i can't install 7.10 catalyst which came from the bundled cd..
but works ok on vista.. i just can assume my winxp corrupted after a few times changing hardware.. will try on 7.11 catalyst tonight..
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post Nov 27 2007, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(^KamilskaZ^ @ Nov 27 2007, 07:45 PM)
need some patch like frame.net 2.0
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not becoz of that..
only the display driver refused to proceed installation on winxp.. hmm.gif
nevermind then try to play with vista first..
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post Nov 28 2007, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(frags @ Nov 27 2007, 10:34 PM)
Dude...same problem...Quite a few XP users have this problem...something about an Error 'data.size ()!=3...

There is a work around this:
http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm...1&enterthread=y
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ya that prob..
can be solved only using manual installation? shakehead.gif
will try later..

QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Nov 28 2007, 12:01 AM)
notworthy.gif may i know what PSU is recomended 4 HD 3970??? if i use my rig below n change the 1950pro to HD 3870???  i think true power 550w enough???  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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seriously i ran on 400W.. but no time play with them yet.. busy²..
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post Nov 29 2007, 09:45 AM

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Just to clear a doubt if any..

1 - if anyone intend to buy 3850/3870 and facing installation prob using winxp...
* manual installation of display driver should do the trick, then can install catalyst control center

2 - problem starting 3dmark and hang at splash screen
* 3dmark need hotfix for new gpu go download them and install..
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post Nov 30 2007, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Nov 29 2007, 09:41 PM)
hello, it's not about HD38xx or later version but it's about HD2900XT, i just got my HIS ATi Radeon HD2900XT 1GB gDDR4, tried install Catalyst 7.11, i got this error... doh.gif

1st
user posted image

after click, this is the 2nd
user posted image

...and this is the 3rd, stated about the error
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didn't know other highend ATI card also got prob...
same like me.. i tried with 7.10 n 7.11..
end up install manually..

QUOTE(frags @ Nov 29 2007, 09:48 PM)
yeah a bunch of us got this problem...Im afraid there is no solution to it...you can install the driver and ATI CC manually...
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ya correcto..

QUOTE(zeustronic @ Nov 29 2007, 10:08 PM)
bout 3dmark issue juz go to C:\WINDOWS\system32\Futuremark\MSC & rename "Direcpll.dll" file to any name e.g.
"xxx.dll".

I ask my buddies & they don have any issue installing latest ATi catalyst 7.11 drivers. why not u tried install framework 2.0 or 3.0 1st, then install catalyst.
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it's not the other required software.. the installer itself got problem.. same error like sniper69
i tried 2 diff windows...

by the way this is crysis cpu benchy.. tried on winxp.. not fully tweak though... just taken to share..

ENERMAX Liberty ELT400AWT (400watt)
AMD Athlon X2 3600+ @ 3.Ghz
2xKVR DDR2 800 1024MB @ 1000mhz (4-4-4-12-16-2T)
Sapphire ATi Radeon HD3870 512Mb (Catalyst 7.11)
WinXP SP2
Reso : 1280x1024 High No AA


seriously for those got same spec like me.. it's playable.. i'm not oc the gpu just yet.. icon_idea.gif
if only the cpu can hit 3.5ghz.. aah.. i need phenom..

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post Nov 30 2007, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Nov 30 2007, 10:22 AM)
anybody already crossfire hd3870? got any prob with driver... coz got few issues with my previous hd2600xt crossfire setup, the monitor flicker few time after passing windows logo, the driver conflict with codec, i need to reinstall the driver few time to resolve it
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maybe conflict with soundcard..
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post Dec 5 2007, 04:00 PM

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i played COD4 with 50fps.. luckily no cpu bottleneck..
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post Dec 6 2007, 10:22 AM

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i can say it's far better than 6600gt on that time.. coz i bought at the same price tag.. 3870 can play most latest games smoothly..
just waiting the time to squeeze it with better cpu.. though it's sufficient enough at the moment.. why worry much..
if still not enough.. can xfire them later..
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post Dec 6 2007, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(clayclws @ Dec 6 2007, 10:37 AM)
Because it's been sold at higher than it should be? It's new. Everyone is cashing in on juz like how the retailers cashed in on 8800GT when it was new. Wait a while and the price MAY drop. But not sure when though. My guess is after 8800GTS NDA.
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yup.. but still i got it below rm900.. even now saw some shop selling cheaper than before.. after a little price slash then restock.. should be ok.. 3850 price also dropping below Rm600..

from my observation ppl always compare which benchmark/games better.. i still think it's subjective..
there are few reasons why i grab them fast.. most of the times for upgrading ofcourse but got other reasons as well..

1-the stock cooler is better
2-it's run cooler.. even though report shows 88C on load.. still not even taste the heat..
3-low power on idle
4-less wattage on load
5-support dx10.1 n other features
6-well known for video related
7-suit my need..
8-xfirex better later
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post Dec 6 2007, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(clayclws @ Dec 6 2007, 11:04 AM)
Stock Cooler...I think I'm gonna void the warranty and put in Thermalright HR-03 Plus instead tongue.gif Overclocking makes this card worthwhile especially with GDDR4...another reason I'm looking past NVIDIA for the first time (NVIDIA is still stuck with GDDR3 that can't be overclocked much).
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oc gpu won't necessary for me now coz.. even not oc gpu i got 10k on 3dm06..
cpu bottlenecking.. but still not far left behind if consider rm200 cheapo cpu..
since it's reach 50fps for gaming.. it's ok then for now..
i tried 850/2400 no prob.. i bet it can go further with better cpu later..
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post Dec 6 2007, 11:35 AM

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870 for core is won't go.. maybe need some other tweak..
but ram got plenty of room more.. i need to slow down the horse now.. coz the rider getting older.. lol..

one thing i like on this new ati card becoz of the core usage... can monitor using rivatuner.. so i can check which game use highest % with the help of G15..
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post Dec 6 2007, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Dec 6 2007, 12:58 PM)
Where can find those 3850 below Rm 600?  brows.gif
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try find them at All IT..

QUOTE(syazwanreno @ Dec 6 2007, 01:32 PM)
which is better

sapphire HD3870

or

power color  HD3870

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i'm using sapphire.. using default cooler.. 88C onload..
if not mistaken powercolor using cooler from zerotherm..
i never try it.. if onload around 60C then it's surely good..
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Dec 17 2007, 11:19 AM)
hi guys! wanna ask here. is it really worth it 2 upgrade 3870 from x1950pro? i am planning 2 get this baby by next month since i got so much money 2 spare just nice 4 any high spec card below 1k. laugh.gif rclxm9.gif i am not going 2 wait 4 next gen since i also saving up 4 penryn. laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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if u require 20fps more.. than yes..
not crysis ar... that game sucks..
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what's so special with IQ.. same like normal only instead blue color?
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post Jan 9 2008, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jan 9 2008, 11:20 AM)
The difference in IceQ version is the cooler.. It's not using the reference ATi cooler..
I has heat pipes n etc.. It runs cooler than ur reference ATi cooler but at a price ah..
Haihhhh.. Wish i have the moolah to buy it.. But then again it would be much better if i just buy a normal HD3870+Aftermarket GPU cooler with that price..
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means.. it's run cooler eh? since normal one, onload with correct fan speed just reaching ~60c
if same.. just a waste then..

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