well all i can say is hmm their G80 cores did perform well during the games that was released
and then later with the G92 will expect the same

Issue with them is their so called extra support and features

Purevideo,
SLi
their suck nforce chipsets that seems to haven gotten downhill after nforce 4

Ati on the other hand.. good card.. good level of details

cons:
very game to driver orientated
and until today i still thin catalyst is a really bad program and ati tray is better.

and the pros for the card would be really this
its overclocking friendly...

didnt get what u mean

hmm that website link u did is bias against firefox..
only works with IE

no dude that was false
the 8800gt scores on that scores when u overclock it and on xp

dude u think u better check the prices
i already got the prices from all Ati partners
its more expensive than the 8800gt with no game bundle whatsoever.

its better u actually check the prices instead of hoping on the inquirer and some weird postings on some websites...

so far the 8800gt was sold lower than the MRSP when u see the OEM prices of those cards.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Nov 11 2007, 04:02 AM

E6850 L720B478@4ghz 1.456v
Asus Maximus Formula
HD3870 Crossfire Stock
Team Xtreem 2x1gb PC2-6400 Cl3 @ 1000mhz 4-4-4-8 2.2v
Windows XP 32bit

Crossfire
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Added on November 13, 2007, 6:43 pm100% fan speed
is as loud at the 8800gt...

Single Card
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This post has been edited by cstkl1: Nov 13 2007, 08:08 PM

E6850 L720B478@4ghz 1.456v
Asus Maximus Formula
HD3870 Crossfire@860/2662
Team Xtreem 2x1gb PC2-6400 Cl3 @ 1000mhz 4-4-4-8 2.2v
Windows XP 32bit

3dmark05
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3dmark06
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Good news ppl
with the new patch
gaming at HIgh

3870 single card at stock

it just pawned the 8800gt 700/1750/2000

both at same cpu setting

there was a bug however on the cpu benchmark.. i couldnt quit after applying the patch 1.02

E6600@ 500x6
HD3870 Stock
Rams 1000mhz Cl4

1920x1200 DX9 Everything HIgh
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ati 7.11


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Nov 18 2007, 12:45 AM

well dude i have a 8800gt sli
and a 3870 crossfire...

after been testing both
i prefer the 3870 crossfire
or a 8800gt single card

nvidia still doesnt scale that well
so all those who wants to tri sli.. kindda silly as vrzone proved that only in maxed out setting on 3dmark06 8xAA 1920x1200 they manage to get 26 percent
so in real world usually half of that...

so 10 percent or less..
they failed in quad sli years ago...

but i do admit they are really good at single card solution now.

they just dont
their sli setup seems to only scale well at extreme reso's or forced AA/AF
and that also with a marginal difference form 10-20 percent.

so far been toying with crossfire for a week with several multi gpu games...
they scale way higher... almost to a point of averaging 50-60 percent improvement.

nvidia still has a lot of bugs with their sli config from their chipsets to drivers

until today for nvidia chipsets
this functions are meaningless or goes to a point of has no major impact on performance of real world gaming

GPUEX
Turbo Settings
Linkboost

all three was a failure eventhough they marketed it and when it failed they eventually was being very quite about it...
a lot of their extra features that they did market eventually didnt perform at all.

but they do have a good single card solution till date with the G80 and G92.

ati's only fault i can say is they need to do something with the catalyst control's bugs
like me i usually just download the drivers
and use ati tray tools.

for me however i moved from sli setup primarily the 680's were really bad boards and i was getting fed up with it.
so chose the x38 motherboard which is really a dream mobo for me after i worked out the kinks etc.
crossfire was the only viable option and so far impress with the 3870 crossfire performance so far...

ati is a leader in multi gpu config and they are actually trying to deliver the scaling performance that they had set
nvidia is very far from delivering their 1.5x and usually on average performance gain is around 20 percent. Most of the time the sli setup performance depends on force
AA/AF settings.
this is the where ati limitations. usually a few games dont work well when u force AA/AF on drivers for a few games.


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Nov 18 2007, 09:17 AM

where they hell did u read that...

yeah my maid now has been selected as the first astronaut for indonesia.
she is flying up soon and will be awarded Dr. ship and maybe will become a dato soon.

to raigores
ikan gave a hint

i was quite direct
if ure going for single card
the 8800gt will not fail u son...

the 3870 might....

dude u said that the sli scales better than a crossfire setup

thats the one.. where u read that??

not true at all..

that test was done a 7.10 driver for the 3800
try that on 7.11

and i think that review is utter bull... for sli..

they dont scale that high

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Nov 18 2007, 09:49 PM

no need ppl
hmm goldfries i wonder
did u know that futuremark released a hotfix for 3dmark03/05/06 PCmark05

its a small file that updates some dll files to support newer cards

it will work fine after that.

good shop ...
very friendly staff
and very good aftersales service

ah the two famous bulkers
by the time their product arrives
the price would have dropped to that price already...

its amazing their waiting list..
and how patient their buyers are

new bios fix available for the 3870
just need to wait for a program to flash it

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=166334

uik i thought u retired

nah dude..
the problem with the 3870x2 lies on the mem... its not going to be a 0.8ns samsung GDDR4 that the manufactorer rated specs is at 2.8ghz 1.8v+_5%

new Bios ...
testing later for artifact free
yeah it can overclock a lot
but artifact free different story

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and i already posted about this the new bios from ATI for this card to solve the PLL problem