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 Any Poorfag On Old Phone Locked Out Frm Bank Apps?, Me Still on Android 8/9 No More Updates

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JimbeamofNRT
post Jun 25 2023, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 25 2023, 09:52 AM)
Seriously after Teh Hong Piow departure, the bank is really going down with whoever that is taking over.
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it is already that way for so long lah


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post Jun 25 2023, 10:35 AM

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My 2019 era CCP last version (before trade war) Mi 9 that can install Google Play from Mi Store is using Android 11 (original CCP ROM).

8 / 9 must be at least 6 ~ 7 years old already.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 25 2023, 10:09 AM)
Not really. How many users actively check for the latest update number on their phone or computer? It is only when there is a problem that people check, myself included.

A better way will be to notify the user that this is the last supported version when the app updates. While the app is still functional.

e.g.
1) Last supported version android 10.
2) App detects user is running android 10 during update.
3) Notifies the user to start shopping for a phone before last supported version is increased to android 11.
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Bro, app update running on the background unless you update manually. And PBB did push notification on the app. You missed that? What the bank can do when they already use multiple way multiple time to let the customer know, 4 MONTHS AHEAD? No wonder Malaysia cannot maju.
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post Jun 25 2023, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(eddmecha @ Jun 25 2023, 10:32 AM)
Lol sendiri ignorant didnt read notices blame bank pula..no point arguing, TS is seeking attention only..he already know he is wrong but only wants to read what he likes , other than that he just will blame everything and everyone except himself.
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post Jun 25 2023, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 25 2023, 10:29 AM)
don't fix if it ain't broken.
i have experienced a few regrets of updating bios/firmware/drivers, be it on pc or phones.  sad.gif
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yeah, but for many banking apps no choice, they won't allow you to use an old version of the app sad.gif

personally, I think the problem is the banks trying to cram every stupid thing in their app. why lar are they reinventing the wheel.

TOTP authentication is already well established.
Passkey authentication doesn't seem that complicated.
Both allows the bank to revoke the authorizations for that secret key/passkey if the device is compromised.

tldr, bank bodo. sorry for the rant.
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post Jun 25 2023, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(tvcat @ Jun 25 2023, 10:35 AM)
Bro, app update running on the background unless you update manually. And PBB did push notification on the app. You missed that? What the bank can do when they already use multiple way multiple time to let the customer know, 4 MONTHS AHEAD? No wonder Malaysia cannot maju.
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You don't understand. The notification was a blanket notification for ALL users regardless of the android version they are running.

An android 8 user will receive the notification, so will an android 13 user. It places the onus on the user to check for themselves, even when the info is visible to the app via API version numbers.

This is like bulk sms notifications, most users will ignore it because, they think, it doesn't affect them.

A better way for the app developers will be to push notifications to those who WILL be affected. Do it everytime the app is started. Not a notification asking them to check for themselves if they will be affected rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 25 2023, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jun 25 2023, 10:35 AM)
My 2019 era CCP last version (before trade war) Mi 9 that can install Google Play from Mi Store is using Android 11 (original CCP ROM).

8 / 9 must be at least 6 ~ 7 years old already.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 25 2023, 09:59 AM)
my mom is using honor 9x lite. it's a 2020 phone. android 9 with no new update.
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i guess budget ccp phone no update at all cry.gif
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post Jun 25 2023, 10:52 AM

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jbcoder with his boomer anti-establishment complaints berpisah tiada..

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post Jun 25 2023, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jun 25 2023, 10:35 AM)
My 2019 era CCP last version (before trade war) Mi 9 that can install Google Play from Mi Store is using Android 11 (original CCP ROM).

8 / 9 must be at least 6 ~ 7 years old already.
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Mi 9 is a good hp, bought it for nfc testing purposes last time
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post Jun 25 2023, 10:58 AM

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later if bank implement FiDo aka passwordless then u guys complain again
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post Jun 25 2023, 11:00 AM

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reason why android 10 and above is chosen is because of the introduction of safety net API... if one does not like the concept of upgrade, better stay with ios, those dinosaurs have the same APIs like forever and not much new APP APIs is introduced for security..
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post Jun 25 2023, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(brkli @ Jun 25 2023, 11:00 AM)
reason why android 10 and above is chosen is because of the introduction of safety net API... if one does not like the concept of upgrade, better stay with ios, those dinosaurs have the same APIs like forever and not much new APP APIs is introduced for security..
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iOS APIs change under the hood at the implementation level bro, instead of deprecating older APIs and forcing people to update apps and add if else statements for API version checks like a barbarian
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post Jun 25 2023, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Jun 25 2023, 11:05 AM)
iOS APIs change under the hood at the implementation level bro, instead of deprecating older APIs and forcing people to update apps and add if else statements for API version checks like a barbarian
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to be fair you can't take stuff away if it was never there in the first place laugh.gif
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Jun 25 2023, 11:05 AM)
iOS APIs change under the hood at the implementation level bro, instead of deprecating older APIs and forcing people to update apps and add if else statements for API version checks like a barbarian
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so what API iOS that was "change under the hood" allowing app to detect jailbroken? check certain file exist in phone 1 by 1? check for certain app package?? that good, u can update your app like barbarian when those new files/method are introduces..
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post Jun 25 2023, 11:31 AM

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Banks refuse to spend any money on Malaysian customers and instead get the Malaysian customer to spend at least few hundred MYR to get new phone. Every couple of years.

And these banks suddenly became more understanding if they are in different country, becos they suddenly seem to get it that in other countries, many people are using old phones. So they order their developer to make a compatible app.

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QUOTE(brkli @ Jun 25 2023, 10:52 AM)
jbcoder with his boomer anti-establishment complaints berpisah tiada..
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Jbcoder stole your gf izit? He's gone and you still can't forget him
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post Jun 25 2023, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Jun 25 2023, 11:31 AM)
Banks refuse to spend any money on Malaysian customers and instead get the Malaysian customer to spend at least few hundred MYR to get new phone. Every couple of years.

And these banks suddenly became more understanding if they are in different country, becos they suddenly seem to get it that in other countries, many people are using old phones. So they order their developer to make a compatible app.

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All the other major banks like Tiger Bank, Sotong Bank, Affin Bank, MBSB, HLB and even OCBC Malaysia all still available and usable on poorfag old Android phone.

PB got played out by the gang by being the 1st black sheep?
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post Jun 25 2023, 11:43 AM

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Is security measure just like windows patches , we no longer in Sony or Nokia phone era
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post Jun 25 2023, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(hoilok @ Jun 25 2023, 11:43 AM)
Is security measure just like windows patches , we no longer in Sony or Nokia phone era
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Just like some had mentioned, you can do security patches without needing to force people to upgrade the OS entirely.

Newer doesn't always suggest better. US Military always use a security hardened older version of Windows XP OS for close to 15 years until 2014!






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post Jun 25 2023, 12:08 PM

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